Stuart Pearce And Darren Bent DEBATE If England Should DROP Harry Kane 👀
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Stuart Pearce and Darren Bent, alongside Jim Proudfoot and Adrian Durham, debate whether England should drop Harry Kane for the Slovenia game.
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only country in the world that would debate whether to drop our best goal scorer. embarrassing. we all know what harry kane is, use actual wingers to get the best out of him.
@sirbaconbutties7071
4 күн бұрын
He needs men to do his running for him tho stupid,We don't need him working back in defence or the midfield were covered.We need an Ian Rush type target man ..
@bags9419
4 күн бұрын
And stop playing him as Cb. There is no need for him to be defending in our own box
@Bert-lw1ot
4 күн бұрын
I said pretty much exactly the same thing earlier, and I had people arguing that Watkins or Toney should start. 2 guys that haven’t even played a single minute of UCL football
@sirbaconbutties7071
4 күн бұрын
@@Bert-lw1ot He should do the wright thing and step down,if he's not willing to do a job without the ball like he did that first half against Denmark,he's absolutely useless to the team and we lose our shape with him being an extra defender...
@Ryan-mg1nw
4 күн бұрын
@@sirbaconbutties7071if he had wingers making runs off the ball he would actually benefit
Gotta fix the Midfield but it depends how Southgate wants to play. England need to play Wharton in rice position and play Rice in the 8 like at Arsenal. Wharton has very high pass accuracy and does forward thinking passes. Rice passes side to side and long balls. If not gonna have possession stop playing Foden. Play fast proper wingers like Gordon or Eze
All u need to beat England is high press. Because whenever I seen England play they take tooo many touches, nobody does 1/2 touch passes they not comfy on the ball and loose possession when they get swarmed.
Bloody hell. Looks like Durham ate all the pies
@douglasgreen437
3 күн бұрын
Type 2 diabetic ?
@oliprj8676
3 күн бұрын
@douglasgreen437 is he? Still, that doesn't nessacerally make you fat?
Nonsense talk dropping Kane, the captain and scored 44 goals this season 🙄. He needs pace on the wings, bring Gordon on the left. Foden as the 10 play Bellingham as an 8. Rice will have to play 6.
Wouldn't assume Slovenia are going to sit deep. After England's first two games Slovenia will know they can get at us. Assuming they'll sit deep is part of what f*cked us in the first two.
@finfog4590
4 күн бұрын
It’ll be a draw probably
@kailashpatel1706
4 күн бұрын
Slovenia will be gutted they got done by the Serbs and maybe pysch devasted..
Kane ain't the problem
@BiggestChungus21
4 күн бұрын
Yup. He stayed mostly up top last game, lack of service. When he played deeper to assist build up as he does for Bayern Munich, Foden impeded on him and Jude. You can’t really just slot in Foden centrally as a lot of morons are saying because Kane already operates there, what Kane needs is service up top because he’s clinical. Best in the world in that regard.
Feel like Benty goes under the radar on this channel. I really like listening to him, he makes some good points and was a decent player who scored over 100 PL goals which is more than can be said for some of the other ex players 🙄
@BillowJr
3 күн бұрын
Scored more than Drogba. 😊
Why would you ever drop kane for watkins...what other major nation would do that? Crazy...kane 68% goals to games for england vs watkins 23%..... kane is one of the top 3 strikers in the world.... the problem is service...he ain't getting any... watkins job is to score not press...which he doesnt do very often for england...talk sense for christ sake...
The manager should do his job and manage harry Kane
What is Durham wearing??? Thinks he is one of the lads, doesn't he?
@brindryden245
4 күн бұрын
omg so funny
@davidpeters3857
4 күн бұрын
😂😂👍
@lfcspectre4335
4 күн бұрын
Its Scottish club shirt
@boreilly82
4 күн бұрын
@@lfcspectre4335 He's got the u-12s shirt on
@joewhite22
4 күн бұрын
A fat suit?
You don't need to debate dropping him, he just shouldn't be untouchable if he is playing poorly. Good managers adapt and unfortunately we don't have a good manager.
@dannytallmage2971
4 күн бұрын
There are people still in prison for criticizing the windrush trio.
@Rossyedmonds
4 күн бұрын
He scored. Don’t you think we should dropping someone that didn’t maybe. 🤔 Or don’t goals count. Not like Watkins scored when he came on and had long enough. People praising us running.
@darrenporter1850
4 күн бұрын
@@RossyedmondsExactly. He played rubbish but still scored.
@Ruscococo1
3 күн бұрын
@@darrenporter1850 He should have scored that it was basic, no one in the team could create anything, Trent passes a ball over the top Saka can't control it which was so poor, Foden did alright but was in Bellinghams position, they keep coming too narrow which gives no width and with the lack of crossing ability its shocking.
Drop Kane. Formation: 3-4-3 Diamond 🔹 Defenders: Stones (Center) Walker (Right) Gahei (Left) 🔹 Midfield: Mainoo (6, Pivot) Rice (8, Left, shares pivot) Trent (Right, freedom to roam) Foden (10) 🔹 Forwards: Palmer (RF) Gordon (LF) 🔹 False 9: Bellingham (Freedom to roam)
Drop England's top scorer who just Broke records in Germany and scored last game?
@Km4n999
3 күн бұрын
Penalty merchant
@BarrieFitzgerald-ch2rw
3 күн бұрын
Nobody doubting his ability it’s his physical condition that’s the problem
@darrenporter1850
3 күн бұрын
@@BarrieFitzgerald-ch2rw He just broke Records all season
@BarrieFitzgerald-ch2rw
2 күн бұрын
@@darrenporter1850 what he did in Germany is does not matter you can see With own eyes the performances Iceland Bosnia Denmark bet he not even into double digits for touched ball in oppos box
They should drop Southgate
We may as well put Watkins in against Slovenia, now is the time to make changes because something needs to change. Not when we’re 1-0 down 20 mins from going out
Someone tell me what’s going on is there a tournament
far too many living room football managers popping up during this tournament
Pearce was wearing a suit one minute before this recording. Someone had scissors. 😆
@Lionsraws66
4 күн бұрын
One of Englands greatest patriots, and all you can do is try to make a poor joke based on his appearance 😢. Grow up and show some respect! 🎉
@JackTheladd
4 күн бұрын
@@Lionsraws66 Suit yourself!
@Lionsraws66
4 күн бұрын
@@JackTheladd 😅.
Southgate said he wanted the team to conserve energy out of his own mouth. He ordered them not to press!!
@connormcleod9595
4 күн бұрын
Don't forget kalvin Phillips holding his hand😂
@TyneBridge90
3 күн бұрын
and declan rice has just admitted they have been playing "low block"
Even Harry Winks would’ve been a better option to partner Rice than Alexander Arnold im not even kidding. England need someone to keep the ball ticking over with simple passing rather that the 100mph play style of Rice and Bellingham who don’t control possession
@sdbrogs
4 күн бұрын
Just you wait for the Liverpool fan boys to jump on you😂, they got to be the most insufferable fan base going
@finfog4590
4 күн бұрын
We need the Yorkshire Pirlo
@youngen_1239
4 күн бұрын
MAINOOOOO
@geekylove3603
4 күн бұрын
Agreed and I support Liverpool. If the manager wants to play Trent in midfield he needs to invert from right back or on the right side of a midfield three (an 8).
@mysteriouscipher5445
4 күн бұрын
@@geekylove3603Hes an 8 not a player that can play in a double pivot...not according to the guy who picks the team
All the runners were left at home. Kane, Foden, Bellingham all playing number 10 in the same 11
Never heard the word press, more than I gave since Thursday.
Regarding the "pressing" problem, why is everyone ignoring what Southgate said after the Serbia game? He stated that when England went 1-0 up, he wanted the players to conserve energy! In fact, he was getting animated on the touchline because players were running around too much! The problem is that the majority of these players are used to playing a pressing game for their clubs and are probably not versed in how to not press and conserve energy but still provide adequate defensive solidity while maintaining an attacking threat. In other words, Southgate has not provided adequate tactical coaching to achieve this!
@mysteriouscipher5445
4 күн бұрын
Its more tacking on the body chasing players without the ball than wth the ball
Nice to Jim's face and Darren Bent is becoming one of the great pundits in TS.
Jim’s voice is so soothing… always love his commentary
Class analysis from Benty 👌
So much focus on players when the issue is the manager and how he’s setting the team up.
Stuart Pearce the same guy that put David James upfront when he was man city manager. Let’s listen to him shall we?
@NH-bz9jv
2 күн бұрын
Rather listen to an ex international than a nobody throbber like you mate. Just saying🤷🏼♂️
Maybe put less pressure on the team going into the competition instead of telling them they’re expected to get to the final or win. Notice how Italy and Spain were humble and understated so the players could relax and just play the game. The English media are f***ing stupid.
Complete change needed give other players a chance. Start palmer, Gordon, Wharton and Watkins
Harry is carrying an injury. He should be honest and rule himself out from starting. Pressing has been off the charts in these games and it’s winning games
Kane is not the type of striker we need for the style of play most of our attacking line and midfielders play. He's more of the Lukaku style
When I find the musing is, if you lose to Slovenia and denmatk win, you don’t even qualify
I don't recall people ever talking about pressing until about a decade ago, when Liverpool started doing it well. I knew teams did it - I recall my team being penned in playing sixes many years ago, but pressing seems to have become an obsession these days.
@garyowen4112
3 күн бұрын
years ago ian rush used to do it on his own
Kane is clearly injured, drop him ! Play the team in their positions, Palmer Watkins to start , Southgate is useless
I think we have done this dance before, At the moment we are through with the 4 pts plus Tues game. Then the tournament starts proper, once we get a win the whole thing will change and all the early games will be forgotten....Then Lineker, etc will all get back on the bandwagon....
Stuart Pearce wants David James up top
8:21 WTF? Did I just hear Pearce say Kanes "selfless for the team"?? Thats the mirror opposite of what I was thinking watching him drop in to centre back throughout the 2nd half against Denmark.....
1:42 Jims obviously been on the BBC website for that data...
What's with shorts lads, it's been raining all tournament in Germany.
@BiggestChungus21
4 күн бұрын
Those are walking shorts. Can’t look like a tourist now
BOWEN WILL SAVE US!!! Needs a chance. He doesn't stop working in all aspects
Is it not possible that they think pressing in group stage games against weaker sides, who aren't playing great possession football, when realistically you only need 3-4 points to advance, is a waste of energy?
Kane isn't the problem.. he's had no service simple as that. I use to play as a striker, there is nothing worse then not having any service. You drop in to find the ball, then when you have it your not in the right place. We need Gordon and Eze out side. Drop Trent and put Foden in at 10. Rice as the holding mid
Wasn't this an argument in the last euros, until kane went on a scoring run as he so often does?
It's worse than you are letting on. It will get better though. Got to press better. Starting with the striker. Got to have a threat in behind on the left wing.
Is Adrian Durham a Pars fan? 😂 that top must be 30 years old. Good on him!
Quite few very obvious possibilities Gordon, Kane and Saka. Foden behind. Bellingham and Rice holding midfield. Or Foden, Kane and Saka. Palmer behind. Bellingham and Rice holding midfield. But according to what we've been hearing, I'll be identical again aside from Trent for Gallagher... no Wharton??? We need someone comfortable on the ball, some composure in midfield. Need someone who knows how to link the play up, and defend.
Ramsay dropped Jimmy greaves for Geoff hurst for the better of the team.
we do not have a world class squad were being overhyped by premier league fans we have a couple of world class players
@NH-bz9jv
2 күн бұрын
More than a couple, but ok.
The only person england should drop ,is Southgate, The guy should of gone after the world cup
3-5-2 - Simple you can keep the ball longer, smaller connected triangles with more fluid movement. (Jude and Foden can both play in the center together). Harry will have a strike partner, more combination play to unbalance opponents. Pickford - Guehi, Stones, Walker - Mainoo, Foden, Bellingham, Palmer, Saka - Kane, Toney (We don't need natural wingers we need players that can keep the ball for long periods of time and can inter change.) You could even keep Rice and take out Toney and have Bellingham play off of Kane with Palmer and Foden pulling the strings. Mainoo can play as an 8 instead of a 6. Honestly. England are loaded with talent to play pretty much any formation. One last addendum: The mentality of the team overall is very weak. I haven't seen players relentless or with a the body language of a leader (That's the X factor)
Knowing how to press and when to press comes from the manager, it’s clear they don’t know the tactics or they just aren’t good enough. If they don’t know how to manage the game on the pitch, it would explain why they just sit back after going 1-0 up, Gareth is the one at fault
If the FA wanted England to do well in the Euros, they should sack Southgate and bring in a more stop gap. Its better than this Haram football
Yes !
What about dropping bubblegum
@BiggestChungus21
4 күн бұрын
You mean Jude? Your best player? The best player in the world? The one responsible for all the England goals? Scored the first goal and provided the pass to Walker, that Bellingham?
@StandardsFC
4 күн бұрын
@@BiggestChungus21lord have mercy 😂 no idea what you have been watching all year. Bellingham is nowhere near the best in the world. Remember, he joined Real Madrid as an 8. There’s a reason Carlo didn’t put him in the 8 as he isn’t even the best midfielder at Madrid. Tchouanemi, Camavinga, Kroos and Modric are all better midfielders than him.
@mazdak500
4 күн бұрын
@@StandardsFC mdric camavangga tchouamani all on the beanch while jude wre playionge verey game you dork
He won’t drop Harry Kane. Period.
Play both Watkins and Kane.
What is this “press”? Bent is saying he talked to his managers about pressing 😂😂 Nobody mentioned pressing before Klopp 😂😂
@uvanator2809
4 күн бұрын
Come on, teams have always pressed since the 60s
@nayden5834
4 күн бұрын
Pressing the ball when out of possession been in the game for yonks. Basic football tactics. Either Press high up the pitch to win the ball back or you sit deep behind the ball in a low block and hit on the counter.. Sunday league basics.
@finfog4590
4 күн бұрын
There was another word or phrase for it. Was “get at them” or ‘engage’.
@keybuckley
4 күн бұрын
We called it 'closing them down' and it was called that long before I was born.
@leemartin3429
4 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Grealish ...
4 0f you, infront of a camera and no talk about Southgate!!! What's the deal with you guys??
Is Durham pregnant?
harry Kane will score goals the issue is he is not getting balls passed to him so he can score, stop playing Foden out of place, Southgate does not take chances very timid manager.
Southgate does not have a system in place hence why you all have questions about the players - Pundits this all falls on Southgate and his poor ability to coach the team. He has adequate player personnel but his lacking ability as a coach to implement a system is shocking, no wonder why the team has been mediocre.
If you're playing well, your start. If you're playing shite, you don't. It's very very easy.
Its like league of their own talsport version
Drop triple Durex pratgate ivory coast style
Has anyone thought that, they just might not be as good as some people think they are???
Wow the bots jumped on this comment section hard
“Gareth is a master of man management.” 😂😂😂😂😂 in his last interview he said they are struggling to find a natural successor to kelvin phillips. Kevin Phillips isn’t even a proven premier league player and you have Bellingham, Gallagher, Mainoo all hearing that nonsense. Sack Gareth Southgate immediately and get Lee carsley there. The under 21s actually play free flowing attacking football!!!!!
Yeah great idea, remove our best chance of scoring.
Man oh man! These former internationals pundits must have won so many international competitions. Not.
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Einstein. If Southgate doesn't change the lineup (or even the formation) for this game then he has totally lost his mind.
He's our leader, he's leader, he's the leader of the band y'an, no way drop, besides Gareth loves our Arry
That boys be tucking into the frankfurters
Darent Bent should hold his hand ✋ for putting nonsense ideas in Gary Southgate head BCS he once said he would pick Trent over any midfielder in that midfield 8 role an look how bad that goes an the Coach s stubborn he doesn't want admit it
We have the second highest number of long balls in the competition thus far. The most being our opponents today 😂😂😂. Should say alot about how we play. Stoke vs Borough today 😂😂😂😂
I’d rest Kane 100% save him for last 16
@ashleymartin6521
3 күн бұрын
Haha good joke
@chuak.c7349
3 күн бұрын
England may not in last 16.
Oh now suddenly the players look tired😂. The discussion has gone from southgate is rubbish to "the team need to press more". I see the FA has had a word with the media.
Is Adrian wearing a Dunfermline shirt!? C'mon the Pars!
Stats 🤮, we need some passion. Then, the talent will shine ✨️
A "master" at man management? Well if he is then he's just in the wrong job isn't he, He'd be a good guy to have in the management team maybe, but not the main guy.
We will nothing under Southgate he is useless and well out of his depth!! If you think Kane is carrying an injury why play him when Watkins is sharper.
Breaking news: 4 niddle aged men show there legs
Any mug can see Kane, Foden, Bellingham and Rice all have to play in their club positions. It’s not a difficult riddle. Start there and work around it. Palmer or Gordon left. Saka right. Kane centre with foden behind. Bellingham and Rice CM. SOUTHGATE is useless!!!😭😭😭😭
Southgate's got a choice play Harry Kane or win the tournament
Should have been Pearce
It's Interesting that we talk about kane looking tired and he has played a lot of football...kane plays for Bayern Munich so do kimmich and Jamal musiala who have even fantastic for Germany. What has Kane been doing that his Bayern team mate's haven't yet they have been able to perform? It's just a load of excuses,a d if he is so tired bench him absolutely ridiculous 😊
Drop every player that hasn't won a major trophy, should filter out some of the dross in the team
@robdolman2256
4 күн бұрын
That's most the squad then mate apart from foden belling walker and stones the rest won F all
@finfog4590
4 күн бұрын
@@robdolman2256Yet, still the almighty England…
Nothing won since 1966 & 58 years on still talking the same trope. Positive manifestation and mindsets required, GS reading from FA script..keeps these lot in a job.
"THE BATTLE OVER BRITAIN " BY PROF WALTER VEITH POWERFUL WATCH ❤
Can that donut on the end even see that laptop.
@douglasgreen437
3 күн бұрын
He is a plonker😂😅😂
Gallagher for Trent what a pointless tactic, kane should be dropped and be striped of the Captaincy Watkins must play, Saka should be dropped , bowen on the right, Gordon on the left, Rice and Bellingham and Foden in midfield.
They are all eating too much Burger King.
GK PICKFORD RB WALKER CB STONES CB GUEHI LB SHAW DM WHARTON CM RICE LCAM BELLINGHAM RCAM FODEN RF SAKA CF KANE
Kane is coming to the end of his international time, lets see what the next gen can do, give Toney a go
Sensational sleep after England games
Waiting for Stuart pierce penalty to go in
@brianf3207
4 күн бұрын
He did, against Spain 96
@Kampala_Harris
4 күн бұрын
@@brianf3207 Stuart was very lucky
@mga830
4 күн бұрын
Had the balls to take a pen as a young player and missed, yes badly but....came back with experience and nailed it. Thats not luck its courage patience and persistence Pearce was a quality left back with a spirit unmatched
@clownworldcartoons
4 күн бұрын
@@brianf3207 And against Germany in 96.
But somehow Phil Folden and Bellingham being a non factor isn’t the problem?
@vPzWalkerx
4 күн бұрын
They literally mentioned Foden and his issues
😊 This is really funny, to be honest. Why? Coz, year after year, tournament after tournament, England fans and their deluded pundits alike manage to rate themselves very highly before each tournaments. Calling almost all their players [who are mostly average players by the way] world-class players! But it takes a tournament like this for some eyes to open. But some will still continue to look for reasons to justify the players poor showing, instead of realising the fact that they're not as great as portrayed!