First time I ever saw my dad cry was over the Phillies 1964 collapse. I'm glad he lived long enough to see them win it all in 1980.

@Rockhound6165

6 жыл бұрын

Wish I could say the same for my dad and the Eagles. Dad was a huge, huge Eagles fan but unfortunately died in march of last year and didn't live to see the Eagles win it all this year.

@MrPunkforlife

6 жыл бұрын

8^(

@redram5150

4 жыл бұрын

My neighbor was a huge Phillies fan. I heard him talk about 64 once and only once. Loved baseball and died a month before the Phils beat Tampa Bay in 08. What a shame.

@sonnypruitt6639

4 жыл бұрын

My dad was a big Phillies fan, when he passed in 1993, we buried him with a Phillies hat in his hands.

@ccdogpark

2 жыл бұрын

That was the most annoying end to a season I can ever remember, especially since there were no playoffs and they would have gone directly to the World Series.

I got my first lesson about raising expectations too early in '64. I was 11 yrs. old and experienced shock, devastation, and anger. I felt as if I had been cheated. Thank God for 1980, or I'd surely be in therapy. During the '86 ALCS, the play by play announcer asked who Angels manager Gene Mauch's probable starters were for games 4 and 5. Someone in the background shouted out, "Bunning and Short." It went out over national TV and broke up the booth.

@oppothumbs1

3 жыл бұрын

Well the Phillies didn't win much in the 40s or 50s .. thanks Bill Montgomery for your small market mentality in the 80s and 90s and you were lucky we won in '08. Thanks for shipping Lee of so we couldn't have Holiday and Lee together in '09. This man , who could remember everyone's name - big fricken deal .. i will never forget you SOB.

@ldfreitas9437

2 жыл бұрын

Don't complain. The Giants had their chances to either make it to the WS or win a WS in 1962, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1971, 1987, 1989, 1993 (102 wins, but no playoffs), 1994 when the season ended early because of the strike, 2000, 2002, 2003. Finally, WS wins 2010, 2012, and 2014! That's a long time between 1958 and 2010, and I was aware of them all from 1959 onwards.

@johnhurley9440

Жыл бұрын

Oh no....and Gene got beat again, much to my chagrin, again. Good story. Thanks!

@JohnLittle-jc5bo

Жыл бұрын

Rick Wise first major league baseball win was the 2nd game of the fathers day perfect game Jim Bunning pitched against the N.Y. Mets Rick was a good hitting pitcher he wasn't an automatic out

I had a chart on my bedroom closet door counting down the season, game by game. I can still picture those ten L’s, written in red ink. They broke my heart.

@jtleon7086

5 жыл бұрын

Just terrible. Phillies beating the Royals may be my greatest child heartbreak.

As a recovering 1964 Phillies collapse addict, all I can say after watching this video. JUST WHEN I THOUGH I HAD RECOVERED FROM 1964.......THEY DRAGGED ME BACK IN !!!!!!!

@JustWinBabee

4 жыл бұрын

Every time I try to get out, THEY PULL ME BACK IN!!!

@josecarranza7555

2 жыл бұрын

@@JustWinBabee GoodFellas.

@JustWinBabee

2 жыл бұрын

@@josecarranza7555 - Godfather III

@josecarranza7555

2 жыл бұрын

@@JustWinBabee What?

@JustWinBabee

2 жыл бұрын

@@josecarranza7555 - Michael Corleone (Al Pacino) said that in his kitchen during the Godfather Three movie.

Although not a Phillies fan, I was captivated by their fight against odds most of that season, and was saddened by their collapse....

I watched Gene Mauch blow it with the Phillies and again with the Angels and I always shook my head when I heard baseball 'experts' refer to Mauch as one of the greatest managers ever. What a fucking joke that was!

56 years ago today, and also Fathers Day--remembering Jim Bunning's perfect game

The two hardest swingers I ever saw. Dick Allen and Willie McCovey.

@theSocal515

Жыл бұрын

Pops Stargell!

I was a 9 yr old Kid..who played little league and had seen my 1st Pro game at Connie Mack the year before (1963) was so excited in the Spring/Summer of 1964 then...BOOM it all fell apart..what an introduction to LIFE and BASEBALL in PHILLY...

@erniemoorer5103

Жыл бұрын

Steve I was also 9 in 64 living in Pittsburgh. I was really rooting for the Phillies that year. First time I ever understood what a true collapse was. Really wanted to see them win that pennant!

"mauch panicked". good way of putting it, the phillies 3, 4, and 5 starters began to have trouble, instead of going to other pitchers like rookie rick wise, mauch decided to pitch his 1 and 2 on 2 days rest. that only compounded the problem. who knows, maybe that wouldn't have worked either. the really hard part was the first 7 losses were at home, in front of a home crowd, they got to watch the collapse first hand.

Dick Allen became a favorite when I saw him on the cover of SI, in a White Sox uniform! I remember being so excited when I opened a pack of 1975 baseball cards and Allen was in the pack! 74 was the first year I started following baseball as a kid.

THE MOST HEART BREAKING EVENT OF MY 53 YEARS AS A PHILLIES FAN!

@ccdogpark

2 жыл бұрын

You and me both.

@RB01.10

2 жыл бұрын

Even more than the 1993 WS loss ?

@johntate131

2 ай бұрын

Idk losing game 6 and 7 in 2023 was brutal

IT STILL HURTS

@russphilly

3 жыл бұрын

1980 did alot to fix, I should say ease the hurT...but it still bothers me when I hear about it.

My baseball memories start with those teams in the 70's but I knew so many old timers (most gone now) who actually stopped watching baseball or at least became casual fans because of the 64 phillies. I recall an interview with John Kruk where he talks about Gene Mauch at an reunion day (can't remember if he was a player or being honored) and Mauch was chain smoking in the tunnel and looking nervous..he asked somebody what was up with Gene...he was worried about his reception by the philly fans...this was late 1990s mind you...to which Kruk responded " that was a long time ago...nobody cares about that anymore ..right ?....the fans BOOOOOED him without mercy when he was announced...30 plus years and the fans hadn't forgotten...maybe I'm that last generation that can feel that agony because of what my grandfather told me about it...but I think we are entering that generation that it moves on...loved the 80 team...and watching the 08 team win it all brought tears to my eyes as I thought about listening to all those games in the dark on the porch with my grandfather and all you could see was the red of his cigar and Harry's voice on the radio.

@hovanti

5 жыл бұрын

Great and interesting memories; thanks for sharing them.

@JustWinBabee

4 жыл бұрын

Well, it was something one never lives down. The 1964 Phillies were a tragedy in more ways than one.

Hall of Famer Paul Waner was the Phillies' hitting coach that year. He was also suffering from a bad case of emphysema and couldn't travel to most of their road games. After the Phillies final game, when they had lost the pennant, Richie Allen, so the story goes, went up to Waner and said, "Don't worry, Mr. Waner, we'll get you to the World Series next year." "Richie, there won't be a next year for me," was Waner's response. Waner proved to be correct as his emphysema forced him out as Phils hitting coach and casued his death in August of 1965.

@andrewpadaetz5549

5 жыл бұрын

The Reds Manager in '64, Fred Hutchinson, was dying of cancer that was also caused by smoking. The Reds finished in a second place tie with the Phillies, one game back of St. Louis. Hutch would be gone soon thereafter (11/12/64).

@JustWinBabee

4 жыл бұрын

@@andrewpadaetz5549- I remember someone saying near the Reds bench after the final game ended that "I wish they'd have won it for that gentleman over there." Hutchinson overheard and replied "I wish they'd have won it for themselves". Hutchinson is also remembered in Detroit for being Al Kaline's first manager. It was Hutchinson who made the fateful decision to make Kaline the regular right fielder in 1954 after just turning 19. An early start to a Hall of Fame career that ended 21 seasons later. 1954 was the Orioles' first year in Baltimore and the As last year in Philadelphia.

I was 15 years old during the summer of '64. Many nights I would listen to the games on the radio while I was suppose to be doing my homework. If the games ran late or the Phillies played out west, I went to bed with my transistor radio and earphone. Yes, I cried a little when the season was over in '64. In 2018 my thoughts of '64 were rekindled when the Phillies fell out of contention near the end of the season.

@ccdogpark

2 жыл бұрын

In 1964 there were no playoffs, so they would have gone directly to the World Series. The 2018 team was mediocre at best. No comparison.

@josecarranza7555

2 жыл бұрын

You saw 2 Phillies titles, right?

@josecarranza7555

2 жыл бұрын

@@ccdogpark You saw 2 Phillies titles, right?

@ccdogpark

2 жыл бұрын

@@josecarranza7555 Yes but there should have been more.

@josecarranza7555

2 жыл бұрын

@@ccdogpark Which years besides 1964?

We 'shared' tickets on the 3rd base side back in the 1960s. We were there that night (some British group had a concert at the old Convention Hall so Capitol offered us free tickets but who cared? We could listen to the Beatles on records but the Phils were in 1st place and just maybe ....) .when the Reds beat the Phils in extra innings, 3-2, which started that infamous slide. I'll be the first to admit I'm a Homer and even had my new 2010 Maxima painted with red & white pinstripes with the hope that the team would rebound. Hope springs eternal here in Philly land. So Philadelphia sports fans continue to endure the slings and arrows; the snide remarks; the comments like, "Gee, I remember back in 19XX/20XX when all of your teams were losers." and so on. We're built tough just like our teams are supposed to be.

1964 was my first year as a baseball fan when I was 9 years old. It started with Bunning's perfect game. I was outside and a woman was listening to the game. She went crazy when he finished the game. Her excitement made me excited about baseball and the Phillies. I am still a Phillies fan although I live in Chicago now.

@johncook8720

2 жыл бұрын

I was to young in 1964 so I dont remember this, however have been a lifelong Phils fan. I still remember the Black Friday loss to the Dodgers in 1977 like it was yesterday. For the fans then, considering most would only remember one previous pennant in 1950, to lose this one the way it happenned had to be crushing. The more I read about this though, the more blame I lay at Mauchs feet - presuming the pennant was a given (and w imjuries to other pitchers) he wanted to clinch as quickly as possible to set up his rotation for the World Series. But once the losses started to pile up, it was like a snowball going downhill, and it couldnt be stopped. I do feel bad for the players and fans. To think Mauch came within a hairs breath of a World Series again in 1986, and lost to the Red Sox, is pretty tough. 6-1/2 game lead with 12 to play, and lose it. Wow. Mind boggling to this day.

@andrewm4564

2 жыл бұрын

I got to be on the other side of a comeback in 1995 when I lived in Seattle. The lowly Mariners came back from 13 games behind in August to beat the Angels to win the AL West. Then they beat the Yankees in the ALDS, but they lost to the Indians in the ALCS.

october 1964 , a must read , by david halberstam ............terrific book ..........and not just baseball .......david h . thanks for all the excellent reads ..........rest in peace .....

@robertaxel

Жыл бұрын

I am rereading it now...

@chucklynch6523

10 күн бұрын

@@robertaxel Who in the heck is halberstam to call the Yankees racist in that book? He was probably projecting his own bias onto the great Yankee franchise!

What a memory. I was 12 years old living in South Jersey. I followed all the games that year on tv and radio. I saw the Cards beat the Phils 10-5 on Sept. 9, 1964 at Connie Mack Stadium with my Dad. What fun time to be alive.

@girlygoalie

6 жыл бұрын

I was 9. What an up and down year. But still loved my Phillies.

Gene Mauch blew it for the Phillies in that final stretch. He panicked and pitched Bunning and Short with 2 days rest. If he only pitched anybody, he would have given those pitchers the rest they needed and would had clinched it. The saddest year in Phillies history. 3 years before the Phillies lost 23 games in a row and it didn't hurt as bad.

@robertmalone5985

5 жыл бұрын

raymoles I have been a Chicago Cubs fan since 1966. Our moment of gloom was September 1969. I put the blame for the Cubs' collapse squarely on the shoulders of manager Leo Durocher who like Gene Mauch overworked his starters Ferguson Jenkins and Ken Holtzman. Them and the Cubs starting fielders ran out of gas and were passed by the Miracle Mets. We would have to wait until 2016 to celebrate our World Series title.

@jimvild8357

5 жыл бұрын

Gino was cursed- '64 Phil's '82 & '86 Angels.Total shame- knew the game inside & out.

@robertboney4493

5 жыл бұрын

Probably true. 2 days rest not enough for anyone except Dizzy Dean.

@jameshoran8

4 жыл бұрын

I just so happened to play a round of golf with Mauch in July of 1992 at the Vintage Club in Palm Desert, CA. After the round, I told him I was from Philly and all he could say was no pitcher on the team other than Bunning and Short wanted the ball the last two weeks. I hated his guts until that day. He was a broken man.

@JustWinBabee

4 жыл бұрын

The manager sets the tone for the team, and Gene Mauch failed to buoy his players after the loss to Cincinnati. Instead of picking up his players' spirits, he dragged them down to his level of despair. No wonder no one else wanted to pitch. Little wonder too, that it affected the hitters. Everyone was afraid to make a mistake and that mindset killed the Phillies.

I was 7 in 64 so I don’t remember it, but my dad would tell me about it for years afterwards, so I knew the ignominy of being a Phillies fan. Then in 1980, redemption…but actually first we had the 67 Sixers and next we had the 73-74 and 74-75 Flyers championships. I cried after each one because I knew the significance it had on us Philadelphia fans, and especially Phillies fans which I am still one today.

In fairness to the Phillies, not every error shown in that montage was theirs. At 4:09, that's Joe Pepitone's throw home in the 9th inning of the 1964 All-Star game (ultimately won by the NL on Johnny Callison's home run--which they actually include as well, without mentioning it, at 2:31 and 3:15) that took a bad bounce past Elston Howard, enabling Willie Mays to score the tying run. Then, for some reason, they repeat it at 4:58.

Philadelphia lost it’s true baseball team. Still love my phillies though. It’s amazing how long they been around with only 2 rings. The As been gone since the 50s and still have more championships then any other Philadelphia team.

@JustWinBabee

4 жыл бұрын

I remember reading that after the As left that people in Philadelphia were saying that the wrong team left town. However, it was inevitable that the As were going to leave because of ownership issues and the attendance at games was so poor. Also, I heard recently that the Yankees had their hand in the As departure too.

@josecarranza7555

2 жыл бұрын

Lol Philly sports do suck huh

I was a Cardinal fan during my childhood. Until now I had no idea my team broke your hearts with its first pennant of my lifetime. That’s the game.

Dick Allen "Rookie of the Year" 1964

@daniellinehan63

Жыл бұрын

Dick hit a Bat Day line drive HR off Sparky Lyle nearly caught by SS Horace Clarke 10 rows back into LF to put ChiSox into 1st over Oakland in '72

I was 12 years old in 1964 and was anavid reader of the sports section of the Boston Globe newspaper, I'll never forget reading about the Phillies leading the National league all summer long by what always seemed about 6 or 6 and1/2 games . I read about Johnny Callison ,Richie Allen (not Dick) he later became Dick Allen,Jim Bunning who had just been traded from the Tigers to the Phillies the year before....I was shocked as I would see the Phillies lose those last 10 games in a row and saw the Cardinals overtake them.What a shame.Gene Mauch went from a genius to a moron in a span of 10 games !

They are still my HEROES.

@russphilly

3 жыл бұрын

me too, I was 9 years old.

I was 11 in STL in 1964 and the race for the Cardinals was just as amazing as disappointing for Phil. Bob Gibson became the Bob Gibson he is remembered as this year. Looking back 45 years later and seeing what happens to pitchers with little rest, Mauch really hurt Bunning and Short down the stretch. Funny thing is after getting in first place, the Cards almost blew it in the last weekend versus the Mets of all teams. Harry Caray went crazy when the Cards won the pennant on the last day listening of the radio. Phil beat the Reds on the last day helping the Cards when they beat the Mets. Gibson sure was a force then against the Yankees.

@daniellinehan63

Жыл бұрын

The Lou Brock deal sealed it

@jorgejohnson451

Жыл бұрын

Wow! The standings that year were tight. The Yankees outlasted the White Sox by one game and Baltimore by 2. The Cardinals outplayed the Phil’s and Reds by one game each and San Francisco was only 3 games off the pace and Milwaukee (Braves) were 5 back. What a season!

@larryloveless2967

Жыл бұрын

@@jorgejohnson451 Exactly. I recommend my favorrie baseball book written in 1994 called October 1964 by author David Halberstam. Although he was a Yankees fan who wrore it to close out that particular run by the Yankees, he covered the Cardinals and Yankees 50/50 and really gives background info on all the players. He covered the full season in both leagues really well. For example, I remembered the White Sox coming in second place a game out but did not remember an injury to Boog Powell of the Orioles with about a month left really hurt their chances at the end.

@jorgejohnson451

Жыл бұрын

@@larryloveless2967 I’ll have to remember to track that one down by “The Best and the Brightest.” I had heard about the baseball book years ago but forgot about it.

@theSocal515

Жыл бұрын

The Giants challenged for first after the Phil’s dropped out and the Cards caught the Giants.

While it was not a collapse, the 1914 New York Giants finished 10.5 games in back of the Miracle Boston Braves, who won the National League pennant that year after being in last place as late as the Fourth Of July. The 1969 New York Mets also won the first ever National League East division title after the Chicago Cubs had frittered away the lead. (Yay Mets). Who knows how the Mets might have fared throughout the 1970s had it not been for the sudden death of manager Gil Hodges, who suffered a massive heart attack on Easter Sunday (April 2nd) 1972 at the age of 47.

now we need a video about the rise and fall of the phillies from the last game of 2011 through 2014 and maybe longer and name it ground out

How can you talk about the ‘64 Phillies without mentioning the 3-run walk-off home run Johnny Callison hit off Dick Radatz at Shea Stadium to win the All Star Game???

@robertaxel

Жыл бұрын

They did show the clip, but no words were said..

The Phillies were the first team that I saw at Crosley Field Cincinnati in 1964. I remember my dad telling me how good they were. The reds won that day.

I can still see Johnny Callison playing right field in Connie Mack Stadium. He played with the grace of a poet. tj obuadhaigh

@alannagel705

6 жыл бұрын

Gene McCaffery Collison my idol saw him play in LA in mid 60's go 4 for 4. What an arm!!

@girlygoalie

6 жыл бұрын

And during the collapse with the flu. He was a tough guy.

@JustWinBabee

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, he had the flu pretty bad. I remember reading about Cardinal First Baseman Bill White buttoning up Callison's jacket after Johnny drew a walk. Callison was so sick he couldn't do it himself. Another tragedy of that season was that it denied Callison his due as the likely MVP and generally of being remembered. Like I've written earlier, Callison is among the least remembered of the truly great players of the 1960s.

@alannagel705

2 жыл бұрын

Callison.my idol and all time favorite player. Saw him go 4 for 4 in LA. Never forget it!!

Philadelphia never forgave Gene Mauch. He was loudly booed when he was introduced as a coach at the '76 All-Star game.

@ProfessorBMedia

6 жыл бұрын

dskyyksd The same Gene Mauch who managed the California Angels back in the early mid-80's his teams with Reggie Jackson, Rod Carew, Don Baylor, Fred Lynn, Bobby Grich and Doug DeCecinces blew a 2-0 lead to the Brewers in the 1982 ALCS then in 1985 blew a 7.0 game lead to the Kansas City Royals in late August early September and the Royals took three of four from the Angels and would win the American League West by a game and would go on to win the World SeriesThen in 1986 the Angels won the West had a 3-1 series lead against the Red Sox at then Anaheim Stadium where the Angels were a strike away from there first ever America League Pennant when Red Sox Dave Henderson hits a dramatic two-run homer off of closer Donnie Moore with two outs in the ninth to give the Red Sox a 6-5 lead, then the Angels rallied to the the game in the bottom half of the ninth inning. The Red Sox would eventually win 7-6 in 11 innings and the series returned to Fenway Park in Boston where the Red Sox would win the next two games at home to win the American League Pennant and advanced to the World Series. Gene Mauch one of the best managers in baseball NOT to manage a World Series.

@robertaxel

5 жыл бұрын

He blew the 1986 pennant for the California Angels by lifting his starting pitcher with two out and nobody on in the ninth inning, with one more out to go to send his team to the World Series. The relief pitcher Donnie Moore had an epic collapse, and committed suicide three years later. Mauch, for some reason had a reputation as one of the best managers in the game, I fail to see why.

@kennethlucas7473

5 жыл бұрын

Me too

@rocknrallsoul94rockero4

5 жыл бұрын

He was the og Dusty Baker

@loyaldude10

4 жыл бұрын

Mauch did have some years where his team blew a series or a race, but he was regarded as a very good manager nonetheless. managed 4 different teams in majors for about 25 years

I remember the billboard above the broad and olney terminal .I saw it every morning in late September 1964 before taking the broad street subway to work...the sign said the Phillies magic number is ...1...it remained unchanged 😭 Several years later I talked to manager gene mauck, he was with the Montreal expos and his hair had turned gray..I said gene..where did you get that gray hair..?.he turned to me and slowly said....philadelphia...☹️

@daniellinehan63

Жыл бұрын

Like the Chicago Trib banner with a Met chasing Randy Hundley in Aug.'69- Randy was WAY in front until Sept.10th.....from 10 up to 8 back in 5 weeks.

As a Yankee fan, I would have preferred to have played Philly that year in the Series and had gotten to avoid playing against Gibson of St Louis.

I have an autographed baseball of that 1964 Phillies team. I can read most of the signatures but there are 3 or 4 that I can't figure out.

@josecarranza7555

2 жыл бұрын

It’s worthless. Why would any Phillies fan have that.

Dick Allen was a tremendously talented player.

@alonenjersey

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah. His entrance into Cooperstown was way overdue.

That team never gets to 1st place without superb managerial moves by the the Little General for 150 plus games of '64. Allen, Callison, Bunning Short very solid. Platoon of Wine/ Amaro (both feeble hitters) produced over 60 rbi from SS position. Taylor/ Rojas; Cater/Covington; Dalrymple/Triandos platoons... Excellent stuff

I remember the end of the 1964 season well. The Phils really blew it. San Francisco had a shot during that last week. St. Louis got in to the WS instead. Richie Allen really had it going on. Another name: Cookie Rojas. They got some national TV time on the Dizzy Dean and Pee Wee Reese Game of the Week on CBS that year, a relief from the too many Yankee home games they often televised. It might have been the first season that KTVU in Oakland broadcast some of the Giants games on the East Coast and Midwest on Sundays, not just Dodgers v Giants games in LA.

It was my Senior year in high school. Each day in late September was like an additional knife in my back. The Phillies created the Philadelphia fan that month. The decade prior to '64, the Phils sucked pretty much every year. But then the hope of '64 followed by the inevitable collapse. Then the Eagles went on over a decade of fruitless football. The Philadelphia fan came about honestly.

RIP Richie Allen.

Mauch was King Choke!!! How he stayed in baseball all those years is beyond me.

@theprofessor8589

5 жыл бұрын

Remember 1986, playoffs against the Red Sox, the Donnie Moore game.

@michaelpomerantz7949

4 жыл бұрын

He was a loser.

@JustWinBabee

4 жыл бұрын

He was a smart manager and a good person. He just didn't handle stress well and was incapable of picking up a team's spirits when fortunes were down. He gave in to despair too easily.

@jamesrichey5389

Ай бұрын

Sadly Donnie Moore committed suicide shortly after that home run.

Remember it like it was yesterday....Still can't figure out how they blew it....

@loyaldude10

4 жыл бұрын

Cardinals got red hot with Lou Brock and Co. Mauch I think panicked and over used his top pitchers. and then the losing streak took on a life of its own and spooked the entire team. 3 teams had a chance to win on last day of season---Cards Reds and Phils.

@JustWinBabee

4 жыл бұрын

Mauch's stress likely contributed to the hitters forgetting how to hit.

@russphilly

3 жыл бұрын

Frank Thomas broke his thumb...a major factor.

@russphilly

3 жыл бұрын

@@loyaldude10 and yes...those Dam CardinalS !!!

As a kid watching the Phil's that year, I'll never forget them even being beat by the Met's who were in the basement, and new to the league.

@jaymorgenthal9479

4 жыл бұрын

Chuck Pestacchi and the Mets won a World Series in only their 7th season,11 years before the phillies got one in 1980.

@josecarranza7555

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaymorgenthal9479 Lol Phillies history in a nutshell.

I wonder how much one of those misprinted 1964 Phillies World Series tickets, are worth now? Or if any still exist?

@sonnypruitt6639

8 жыл бұрын

***** WOW! Just asking, but do you have any idea of what it's worth?

@mjcruiser4238

Ай бұрын

Not very much -I have one -they were sold as a charity fund raiser Actually -it’s really stupid to keep a memento of such a horrible time!

The Phillies got historic revenge for the Ruiz/Reds situation in the 2010 playoff. Doc was like a 18 wheeler going over the Reds offense like a paper cup. we were helpless.. lol

Anybody notice the price on the cover of Sports Illustrated, seen in this video? It was twenty-five cents! Of course, dimes, quarters, and half-dollars were still made with real silver in those days. Now, a good one of those is worth 8 - 12 times its face value (?)

@philliefan94

7 жыл бұрын

I wonder if the SI cover jinx played a part in this. I had heard of it before, it's like the Madden curse, though I don't know many examples. Just a thought. Thank God this was 30 years before I was born.

@ronmackinnon9374

3 жыл бұрын

@@philliefan94 Actually, that Sports Illustrated cover--featuring Art Mahaffey and the headline 'New Hope in Philly'--was from the previous season, issue of April 29, 1963.

5:11 is that Roy Sievers being put out trying to stretch a triple into a home run?

The New Jersey Turnpike had signs pointing in opposite directions:THIS WAY TO THE WORLD SERIES.

gr8 doc

What to do with my 1964 World series tickets that my Dad and I never had the chance to use?

Hey we got somewhat payback in 2007, when the Mets blew a 7 game lead with 17 to go and won the division on the last day of the season

I remember my first major Philly sports disappointment. Losing to the damn Redwings in the 1997 cup finals.

The baseball season was extended to 162 games prior to the 1964 season. If it had not been extended, the Phillies losing streak would not have cost them the pennent. Also, if the Phillies had just played .500 baseball in the last 12 games, they could have still got into the WS, maybe by just a 1/2 game or game. Maybe they did play over their had, but once they started the 10 game losing streak Mauch did not have a solution to stop the slide.

After the Sixers won the NBA title in 1967, sports in Philadelphia was nothing to look forward to. The Sixers collapsed to the point that they ended up posting the worst season ever by an NBA team until the 2012 Bobcats. The Eagles were mediocre at best and didn't become a contender until 1978. The Phils floundered until 1976. That left the expansion Flyers who brought the city it's first title in 7 years and brought some pride back into the city. Small wonder that 2 million people showed up at that parade and how the Broad Street Bullies, to this day, are probably the most beloved teams in Philadelphia history. The Phils finally shook off the monkey of 1964 when they finally won it all in 1980.

@Rockhound6165

3 жыл бұрын

@Luke E They still have more Cup wins than the Bruins, Rangers, and Maple Leafs in the last 55 years.

@michaelleroy9281

Жыл бұрын

2008 Phillies, how about us?

@Rockhound6165

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelleroy9281 25 years after the Sixers won in 1983. Philly didn't win another title until the Eagles in 2017.

As a 9 yer old in Ridley Park, my best friend moved to Baltimore and in 1965 I discovered the Orioles. The "genius" Mauch's inability to lead eventually led to the Flyers resurrection of the City...so with every seemingly bad event, good is realized...but it still stung at the time!

For 150 games, Gene Mauch was the best manager in MLB. The final 12................

My dad told me stories about how he'd be outside playing and he'd hear my Grandpop cursing up a storm during "The Collapse"

As a Cardinals fan I thank you guys for your 1964 Fold, allowed us to beat the Yankees in the WS.

@johncastiello8367

5 жыл бұрын

That was the last World Series lost for the Yankees until the mid 70s

@JustWinBabee

4 жыл бұрын

That was the Yankees' last World Series until 1976.

@JustWinBabee

4 жыл бұрын

You should thank the Reds' Chico Ruiz. His steal of home was what sent the Phils into the tailspin they remained in until it was too late.

I heard the word September....and I just knew. It was a real thing back then too huh?

Bucs fan here. Wonder if the 64 Bucs team hindered the Phils at all in 64 lol just 4 years removed from the famous ‘60 team.

nice, id love to see or make a longer documentary on the 1964 season

To this very Day Dick Allen was the greatest Player I ever watched!

@theolamp5312

9 жыл бұрын

Kinseydsp Allen hit a ball harder than anyone I have ever seen. And his homers were usually line drives that were still going up when they left the park.

@loyaldude10

8 жыл бұрын

+Kinseydsp too bad he was his own worst enemy in some ways. cost himself a place in Cooperstown

@theolamp5312

8 жыл бұрын

+loyaldude10 - I'm assuming you mean his controversial persona. But, I believe that what has cost Richie entrance into the Hall of Fame was his overall numbers. His numbers are excellent, but not definitive. Unfortunatley, most voters have seen not seen his hits throughout his career. I've heard people in the know say that the ball coming off of Richie's and Bo Jackson's bats sounded different than any other players. Richie's bat was like lightning.

@34Packardphaeton

7 жыл бұрын

+loyaldude10 Does anyone remember the story of Richie pushing a car.. with a hand on the glass headlight..... which broke, and nearly cost Richie a hand nerve or muscle damage.

@loyaldude10

7 жыл бұрын

34Packardphaeton I remember that story, and even though I was a kid then, it didn't sound right.

thank god I was not yet born and did not witness this. I have enough heartbreak with Pelle dying, flyers losing six straight cups,including the nightmare of 97, 93 Phils, eagles loss to the bucs in the NFc title game, the paul Holmgren era. interesting common them at the beginning and end of documentary philly being downtrodden city and the sports teams are often a mirror image. that stands somewhat true to this day!

@michaelleroy9281

Жыл бұрын

1974 and 1975 Flyers Stanley Cup 🏆 Champions

This was a worse collapse than the’69 Cubs. But the Cubs also had numerous All-Stars and 4 future HOFs. Ken Holtzman would also throw a No-hitter (though not a perfect game) in mid-August of ‘69 and Leo Durocher would mismanage his lineups and exhaust his star players just as Gene did. The fans didn’t sour on the team, though. The Cubs became “lovable losers.” So the team didn’t make the city. The city made the team.

@carlweaver3243

Жыл бұрын

Holtzman's No Hitter was the Beginning of the End. After that, the Cubs lost 25 of their last 40 games in '69 while a few days before Kenny's Gem, the Mets started their 38-11 streak. Durocher was just as bad as Mauch. Pitching Holtzman, Hands And Jenkins on 2 Days rest. Not utilizing the Bullpen other that Regan and not resting the regulars more in that Summer heat of all Day Ballgames at Wrigley Field. But to be up 6 1/2 games with 12 to play, Man that is truly rough.

@davidburke9596

2 ай бұрын

Went to Holtzman's 1972 first Start in Chi after he left the Cubs for Oakland. He didn't make it out of the 1st inning. Sox put 5 on him including a 3-run Homer by ... Dick Allen !

Ran out of pitching last ten days short and bunning overworked

How could the Phillies in 1964 not have won a World Series in eighty years, when the first one wasn't played until 1903? Someone who narrated this video obviously didn't do their (math) homework.......

42 oz. bat?! How the hell did he do it?!

@34Packardphaeton

3 жыл бұрын

Babe Ruth also swung a 42 oz. bat... at least for a while.

@ErichLRuehs

Жыл бұрын

@@34Packardphaeton The Babe did swing a huge stick Part of what got him in trouble

Wc fields has on his headstone i raters be hear then in phildelpia

That would've been a whale of a World Series had the Phils taken on the Yankees. The Philadelphia merchants and bars would've made out like kings. Don't know if the Phillies would've won, but if they did it would've been Mardi Gras downtown.

Mauch started pitching Bunning & Sort on 2 days rest before the lossing streak started. It caused the streak and was not the result of it.

@rayjr62

6 жыл бұрын

Dick Allen was a bad mutherfucker.

@girlygoalie

6 жыл бұрын

He should have started Ray Culp.

@davesechrist8812

5 жыл бұрын

From what I have read, I believe Culp had a sore arm, as did Mahaffey. I think Mauch had lost confidence in Dennis Bennett. He didn't have all of his starters available, but he obviously should've tried Wise or some relievers.

@JustWinBabee

4 жыл бұрын

Other teams have started relievers or even brought up a Triple A pitcher to start a crucial game. In 1940, the Tigers brought up Floyd Giebell to start the final game and he ended up beating the Indians and Bob Feller to win the pennant. In 1984, Sparky Anderson brought up Randy O'Neal to start a crucial game over the objections of Jack Morris and Dan Petry, who both wanted to pitch that game. O'Neal ended up winning and got the Tigers that much closer to winning the division. It seems that Mauch managed scared, and more often than not, it comes back to bite you.

@raymondswenson5529

4 жыл бұрын

Gene Mauch did it again in 1986. The Angels were one out away from their first series....then up stepped Dave Henderson......you know the rest.

Dick Allen 42 oz Baseball Bat

Richie saved the ChiSox in '72- Bowie Kuhn had them earmarked for Seattle

@michaelleroy9281

Жыл бұрын

That does mean they would have moved there it takes the owners to approve a franchise move

it is known as... The Phold

The biggest choke job in the history of baseball

Short and Bunning on 2 days rest sealed their well deserved fate. Surely there was someone out in the pen or a fresh arm in the minors that could have gave Mauch several 0's on the board. Stringing together a pitching staff even in those days was a task that required atleast 4 starters and a few prepared relievers. esp in September.

@girlygoalie

6 жыл бұрын

Ray Culp or Rick Wise

@JustWinBabee

4 жыл бұрын

Read that Culp had a sore arm, but he still should have taken a chance on Wise. Or he could have called up an arm or two from Triple A.

SADLY,I REMEMBER THAT PHILLIES FANS (I WAS THERE IN PERSON WITH MY DAD) BOOED ALLEN UNMERCIFULLY,AND ESPECIALLY AFTER THE "FRANK THOMAS" INCIDENT.

@theolamp5312

9 жыл бұрын

Larry Wax I was there to. I was 12 and couldn't understand so much hate at a baseball game. Especially for one of our own players.

@loyaldude10

8 жыл бұрын

+Theo Lamp times were quite different then, and Allen certainly was very immature and head strong. not a good combo back then, when people were much less racially tolerant

@theolamp5312

8 жыл бұрын

+loyaldude10 - Yes, I now know that times were different and less tolerant. But, as a 12 year old, I was not racist. I don't think that's the nature of kids in general. So, I'm talking from my perspective at the time. I think later on, racism crept into my generation. But, as we have all grown older, I hope most have learned to put racism and most our prejudices behind us. If Richie's actions were looked at now, he would be considered moderate and respected. On a positive note - I love seeing the late great Stan Hochman in this video.

@Rockhound6165

6 жыл бұрын

So, Phillies fans were equally if not more so harder on Mike Schmidt meaning it has nothing to do with race and more to do with expectations. Hell, Phillies fans were ridiculous to Schmidt one night when he struck out 4 times then he ended up hitting the game winning homerun and Schmidt didn't even acknowledge them, he simply ran around the bases, through the clubhouse, into his car, and drove home in full uniform.

@jakedasnake7703

4 жыл бұрын

Funny how frank Thomas wasn’t on the famous 60’ Bucs World Series team either even tho his first 8 years were with the Bucs lmao Bucs fan here

Never print World 🌎 Series tickets too early!!! 😆😊😂

The same thing that happened in 1964 is happening in 2015

The 2007 Mets topped the Phils' collapse of 1964. Up by 7 with 17 to go, the Mets pulled the greatest el foldo of all time.

@jaymorgenthal9479

9 жыл бұрын

Capped off by a GUTLESS effort from Tom Glavine vs the Marlins.

@alonenjersey

9 жыл бұрын

8avexp I attended a late September game @ Shea vs. the Cards. By the 6th. inning, the mood of the fans was a combination of anger & sadness. You could'nt help but think the Mets were'nt gonna rebound.

@deragon59

8 жыл бұрын

I think 6 1/2 with 12 to go is worse than 7 with 17 to go.

@RWHyle

8 жыл бұрын

+8avexp : wrong quiz kid. The 1964 phillies collapse is the WORST in the history of the game. Lock. You need some help with your math using the Mets comparison. Phillies still a joke - over 110+ years of baseball, an overall losing record, and only 2 world championships. And besides the choke of '64 you can add the '77 and '78 chokes in the playoffs as well. (plus the blowjobs of 1950 and 83.) Any questions?

@jaymorgenthal9479

8 жыл бұрын

2007 was the division. 1964 was the NL Flag. case closed.

This was a little like the Cubs in 1969.

@michaelleroy9281

11 ай бұрын

Although the Cubs blew it in the whole month of September, not with 12 games left to play

@davidburke9596

2 ай бұрын

Cubs lost because they were weak in CF and Leo only trusted 1 Relief Pitcher . Kept putting 32 yr old Phil Regan in til his arm gave out.

Overuse of the two best arms led to their doom but considering how bad they were three years prior. Meanwhile the Cardinals were an ass-kicking team in the 60's after years of second-banana finishes to the Dodgers...it was their time. The Phils were a one-trick pony and doomed to slip. Even the Mets couldn't duplicate their 1969 success except one miracle run on an 82-79 team four years later.

I thought I was finally gonna see video of Chico Riuz stealing home.

@andrewpadaetz5549

7 жыл бұрын

Notice whose hit put Ruiz in scoring position...number 14. Rose was only in his 2nd season with the Reds..

I was 12 years old and an out of state Phillies fan. I am still not over it. I stopped believing in God and basically turned to drugs and alcohol.

The crime is that if they did make it to the World Series, I think they wouldve had a fair shot of winning it. They had a good mix of young players n veterans, while the Yanks were nearing the end of a dynasty. But i agree w many posts on here, Mauch blew it. He wanted to clinch early and rest his starters for the WS, but it backfired. A real shame. You have Bunnings perfect game, Callisons game winning All-Star gm homer, you start to feel its your year...then it all collapsed. Ugh.

Curt Simmons won 17 games for the 1964 Cardinals. Over in the American League a guy named Robin Roberts won 13 that year for the Orioles. Maybe it was somebody in the front' office's fault--not the players or the manager--that the Phillies did not win the pennant. Budget moves a few years earlier-and sending beloved local heroes Simmons and Roberts packing for virtually nothing in return are never mentioned as a cause of the '64 collapse. Maybe they should be.

@34Packardphaeton

7 жыл бұрын

+fek2000 YOU are the one to recognize why the Phillies didn't prevail in '64.Baseball is notorious for ILLOGIC.. when it comes to personnel. No GM in his right mind should EVER trade a good pitcher. Who was the Phillies GM that let Simmons and Roberts go?? HE is the guy that let the city down! Philly's own Connie Mack, who knew the game like few others, said that baseball was 75% pitching----and he was right!

@sXSniping

7 жыл бұрын

fek2000 maybe Phillies shouldn't of let Robin go

@theworm6870

6 жыл бұрын

on the other hand, you wouldn't have had Bunning if the Tigers didn't make a horrible trade to give him up.

@JustWinBabee

4 жыл бұрын

@@theworm6870- Yes, it was a terrible trade. Then Tigers manager Charlie Dressen wanted to toughen up the Tigers and he figured the easiest way to accomplish that was to trade for National Leaguers, since he saw the NL as clearly the tougher league. Problem was he traded a lion and got a lamb in return. Jim Bunning was a tough customer and Don Demeter was as docile as they come.

@theworm6870

4 жыл бұрын

@@JustWinBabee funny, they traded Demeter away to get Earl Wilson, so Demeter was a crappy return for two different teams.

Baseball was pretty good back then compared to the pre packaged nonsense Selig is trying to pawn off as a game

@34Packardphaeton

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah; I wouldn't walk across the street to a pro baseball game today, even with a free ticket. What do you say to that, Mr. Selig???

I was 13 and absolutely sure the Phillies would win the pennant. Of course, I figured they'd lose to the hated Yankees in the Series. As I was siting on my porch, (couldn't bear to watch them during the slide), my friend comes around the corner announces that the Cardinals had won the pennant. I wanted to wring his neck and then cry. Shortly thereafter, I rooted my heart out for the Cardinals; at least a venial sin for any Phillie fan to root for some other team, but as I alluded to earlier, I HATED the Yankees. Bob Gibson capped a monster year with a monster Series. And Curt Simmons, a beloved former Whiz Kid, also played a role in winning it all.

In 1964 the pennant race was in the American League for most of the season. It was between the Yankees, the Orioles and the White Sox. The Yankees won by 1 game over the White Sox and 2 games over the Orioles. The National League was going to be the Philadelphia Phillies. But then?????????? The Cardinals.

I was a ten year old living in Saint Louis at the time. I thank the Phillies for this.

@JustWinBabee

4 жыл бұрын

You should also thank the Cincinnati Reds and Chico Ruiz. They pushed the Phils into the slide that opened the door for the Cardinals.

Phillies doing the same thing right now

Gene Mauch

Phildelpia boo everyone great pirate broadcaster bob prince would often say they boo national anthem in phildelphia

And that is why they boo Santa Claus in Philly.

@davidburke9596

2 ай бұрын

They booed him because he was drunk .

It was NOT an explosive lineup.

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This can't be worse than 1978 when the Red Sox blew a 14 game lead to the Yankees and lost a one game playoff

@drewbryan6739

Жыл бұрын

The 1964 Phillies were worse because they blew their lead in only 12 games. In 1978 the Yankees had 72 games left to make up the 14 games. If the Red Sox had blown a 14-game lead in 27 games, now that would be worse.

I was 15 years old in the summer of '64. I listened to the Phillies' games on my little transistor radio as best I could because the reception wasn't the best in those days. I usually fell asleep before the games ended so I would anxiously watch the morning news show the next day for the scores. It was terrible! Loss after loss after loss after loss! Surely they'll win today. Nope. When it was all over and the Cardinals had won the pennant I went on a 'I hate the St. Louis Cardinals' campaign that lasts to this day! I hate the St. Louis Cardinals! I'll never ever forget 'The Phillie Phold' as long as I live and I'm 71 now. And I'll always be a Phillies fan forever!