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Street Fighter 6 Season 2 balance changes have been reported - Demonstrations and Implications

With Akuma on May 22nd comes the season 2 balance patch, but at a location test with the Akuma build in Japan, players are reporting balance changes present. These changes may in fact be what we see for the final Season 2 update. Of course none of these changes are confirmed, and may not be present in the final build. I go through and demonstrate what all reported changes are and their implications.
0:00 - Intro
1:33 - Drive Reversal changes
10:37 - Back throw changes
12:35 - Ryu
14:38 - Chun-Li
18:08 - DeeJay
20:03 - Blanka
22:02 - Cammy
23:55 - Honda
26:32 - Luke
28:51 - Guile
30:10 - JP
32:11 - AKI
36:17 - Jamie
39:40 - Zangief
41:01 - Kimberly
42:34 - Rashid
43:16 - Ken
44:23 - Manon
45:09 - Lily
45:32 - Rest of cast
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  • @bwnnn
    @bwnnn3 ай бұрын

    Surprising there's no intel about a character as popular as Juri.

  • @santana8022

    @santana8022

    3 ай бұрын

    They are clearly hiding tech 😂

  • @MysticColorsAttack

    @MysticColorsAttack

    3 ай бұрын

    to be fair, I feel like the only change she needs is to do with her drive rush, which is pretty hard to eyeball. She's otherwise pretty well balanced

  • @jaealxndr

    @jaealxndr

    3 ай бұрын

    @@MysticColorsAttackI agree. She’s really good but really honest 😊

  • @BigJC777

    @BigJC777

    3 ай бұрын

    @@jaealxndrgrounded fireball + unsafe specials canceled into safe special not honest bro no top tier is honest just live with it stop coping

  • @jaealxndr

    @jaealxndr

    3 ай бұрын

    @@BigJC777 she has good frames but when she won evo it wasn’t cheap or unfair. Be fr

  • @PomadaGaming
    @PomadaGaming3 ай бұрын

    Ok balance_f

  • @dominick_sg

    @dominick_sg

    3 ай бұрын

    this took an honest laugh out of me, ngl

  • @domesticmh4567

    @domesticmh4567

    3 ай бұрын

    actual good one

  • @user-cn3jk4gk6p

    @user-cn3jk4gk6p

    3 ай бұрын

    Brian_F is waiting and horny for this balance Patch as he furviously scurries the internet for the offical notes he hard grips his penis with his left hand and hard rubs it because he is anxious for this patch to come to pass

  • @goob8945

    @goob8945

    3 ай бұрын

    😂😂

  • @qwesvvs

    @qwesvvs

    3 ай бұрын

    Noice 😆🤣

  • @liptherapypirate
    @liptherapypirate3 ай бұрын

    I think the meter changes to lvl2s are for super meter to put them more in line with installs which don't allow you to gain meter while they are ticking down, not drive gauge.

  • @SamEye_Yam
    @SamEye_Yam3 ай бұрын

    Drive reversal changes mean Gief (and Lily, Manon, etc) will have an actual option when clobbered in the corner. Gief life about to get better.

  • @tavinwallack24

    @tavinwallack24

    3 ай бұрын

    Clobbered lol

  • @hellzofwar

    @hellzofwar

    3 ай бұрын

    Kimberly mains might not afk when in the corner now. W

  • @Aggrofool

    @Aggrofool

    3 ай бұрын

    Lily and Manon have decent lv1 supers to escape corner, so it may not move the needle for them.

  • @elSteeler

    @elSteeler

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Aggrofool like half the cast can whiff jab on Lily lv1 and block in time lol, super is slow af

  • @MegaJackolope

    @MegaJackolope

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Aggrofool Meanwhile in Giefland...

  • @drawhou9356
    @drawhou93563 ай бұрын

    I really like the new Drive reversal changes, it creates a sorta paper-rock-scissors with block, drive options, and grabs, it will bring a whole new dimension to the mental stack every decision has

  • @Nostalgiaforinfi

    @Nostalgiaforinfi

    3 ай бұрын

    Don't forget perfect parry

  • @ThatWolfArrow
    @ThatWolfArrow3 ай бұрын

    The Drive Reversal buffs are almost certainly a massive W.

  • @KTC12490

    @KTC12490

    3 ай бұрын

    Its practically the same thing still get punished into another guessing game

  • @misterkeebler

    @misterkeebler

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@KTC12490 it's not the same for a character that currently has nothing. Every option has risk and can be punished.

  • @goldsage4722

    @goldsage4722

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@misterkeebler explain how its different

  • @TBContent24

    @TBContent24

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@goldsage4722 as a sim main I can confirm that having a "get off me" that isn't my level 2 or 3 is a big change

  • @Raxyz_0

    @Raxyz_0

    3 ай бұрын

    Might not be. Being able to do it raw off wakeup is interesting to counter throw loops, but some characters can't start a meaningful punish off their 6 frame buttons. If they can't punish it properly, the opponent basically gets none to small risk off trying to interrupt every string.

  • @Michniko
    @Michniko3 ай бұрын

    Obviously this is a special occasion, but I definitely wouldn't mind more long videos like this!

  • @girlweird833
    @girlweird8333 ай бұрын

    If they go after Cammy like that, and dont go after Ken and DeeJay, or Help Lily, im not going to doing anything except sit here and be mad.

  • @baigpigpig

    @baigpigpig

    3 ай бұрын

    not even whine on twitter?!??! do u even /r/kappa bro?

  • @TypicalBlakk

    @TypicalBlakk

    3 ай бұрын

    Ken is not op bro stop ducking crying holy hell

  • @goldsage4722

    @goldsage4722

    3 ай бұрын

    @@TypicalBlakk the shitters just cant stop bro

  • @BigJC777

    @BigJC777

    3 ай бұрын

    Change ken for luke

  • @sanicboi9187

    @sanicboi9187

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@TypicalBlakkbetter than cammy thats for sure

  • @reelita
    @reelita3 ай бұрын

    lily getting nerfed is actually hilarious

  • @Near_Pluto_

    @Near_Pluto_

    3 ай бұрын

    In a cosmic sort of way yes

  • @projectikaruga

    @projectikaruga

    3 ай бұрын

    She deserves to die and be gone of the game

  • @ADreamingTraveler

    @ADreamingTraveler

    3 ай бұрын

    Not confirmed. Even the source added a (maybe?) to it because they're more unsure about that than the other things.

  • @CrystalMang0

    @CrystalMang0

    3 ай бұрын

    It literally says (maybe) so no confirmed Lily nerfs bro. Also even if it was it's just a hurtbox thing bro

  • @8-kun

    @8-kun

    3 ай бұрын

    As a shid player, and just read “universal meter build” just, made ma laugh

  • @DeepFreier
    @DeepFreier3 ай бұрын

    I'm so happy that jamie got those normal buffs, it's crazy how spot on they were with those. Now you can meaty with crmp or use it in situations where you would lose to di, react and cancel which he can't do reliably with his mp, or hp. But man the od command grab makes me so damn sad, i already gotta get 3 drinks for it

  • @kareema3832

    @kareema3832

    3 ай бұрын

    True but with the throw drink buff he gets his drinks pretty quickly now

  • @2memphis
    @2memphis3 ай бұрын

    Great video! One small thing - I think Aki's coward crouch dive is actually only upper-body invincible right now. So there's currently no situation she can jump over Juri's fireball. Hopefully that changes if it's fully invul for Season 2.

  • @imjustlightningman

    @imjustlightningman

    3 ай бұрын

    You may have to time heavy cruel fate, when they least expect it

  • @jamgUNoh
    @jamgUNoh3 ай бұрын

    if luke gets away with it once again im gonna cry and piss myself

  • @computervision557

    @computervision557

    3 ай бұрын

    I think the problem is not Luke become T0 or not, it is you/my main is T0 or not

  • @jpVari

    @jpVari

    3 ай бұрын

    I feel like the drive reversal changes may be big enough that we don't know as much anymore. It will fundamentally alter Ken and Luke if everything Brian describes indeed changes. At least, it seems that way from here. Edit - I am not calling him weak or below xyz or anything. Just that it'll be worth seeing how that alone plays out before declaring anything. Let alone the rest.

  • @marcorodriguez8792

    @marcorodriguez8792

    3 ай бұрын

    I don't really care if Luke doesn't get nerfed as long as other characters get buffed to the point where Luke is no longer top 5 or even top 10

  • @doctordice2doctordice210

    @doctordice2doctordice210

    3 ай бұрын

    So luke is the new "THE GAME IS SO UNBALANCED" boogie man? 🙄

  • @JG-tr8ph

    @JG-tr8ph

    3 ай бұрын

    Luke is the Silly Jimmy meme. Some retard decided to make that obnoxious twat the protagonist, so he'll never be below A-tier.

  • @dav1dgear
    @dav1dgear3 ай бұрын

    Bye bye Throw loop, all hail Drive Reversal. This is such a great change BTW

  • @DCoreB
    @DCoreB3 ай бұрын

    That thumbnail is one of the best things to come from this balance patch

  • @jimmyjohnjingles6266
    @jimmyjohnjingles62663 ай бұрын

    Bruhhh no akuma nerfs? No wayyy this character is preemptively broken

  • @vandagylon2885

    @vandagylon2885

    3 ай бұрын

    The level 2 meter gain nerf is already a pre-emptive nerf since Gouki's SA 2 causes wall splat.

  • @TheeFungUsAmongUs

    @TheeFungUsAmongUs

    3 ай бұрын

    Imagine complaining about a character before they are even officially released lol

  • @carrying13

    @carrying13

    3 ай бұрын

    @@TheeFungUsAmongUs sometimes it's reasonable for example look at android 21 lab coat

  • @rscyth1012

    @rscyth1012

    3 ай бұрын

    He’s lowest health tho

  • @BigJC777

    @BigJC777

    3 ай бұрын

    @@TheeFungUsAmongUsS A R C A S A M

  • @Aggrofool
    @Aggrofool3 ай бұрын

    Note that Manon already can combo a lot of things off OD QCF kick, so still not sure what's the gain about this change.

  • @meatwadisgod

    @meatwadisgod

    3 ай бұрын

    This change makes it a natural combo rather than just a punish (and counter-hit? Idk) combo. Since b.HP also is a natural combo to itself you could be looking at, say, meaty b.HP b.HP into a lot of good juggle combos off of EX Grand Fouetté.

  • @link6913
    @link69133 ай бұрын

    You're wrong about the implications on the Chun changes. You can't walk behind Heavy fireball; it's too fast. Chun walks behind her light fireball. Also, the meter gain on S2 is not for drive rush meter. You see she doesn't gain any back during the combo. It's super meter they're likely reducing. You can use super 2 and gain half a bar of super with the follow up, so you can use super 2 twice in the third round pretty easily as Chun. They'll likely add super meter proration after s2.

  • @Corbear41

    @Corbear41

    3 ай бұрын

    You can gain drive meter after super 2 if you don't use drive rush to combo into it. Example if you do 2mk drc 4hp super 2 it won't gain drive meter. If you just do a 4mp into super you can recover drive meter during the air juggle.

  • @link6913

    @link6913

    3 ай бұрын

    @Corbear41 True. What I meant is she doesn't gain any significant amount of dr meter during super 2. Not anything that would be considered a problem.

  • @ebby3215

    @ebby3215

    3 ай бұрын

    i have no problem with the fireball or sa 2 nerf but her 4mp nerf is bs

  • @link6913

    @link6913

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ebby3215 idk how I feel about the fireball nerf. If low forward xx hp fireball is no longer safe on block, the chun literally has no block string enders that are safe on block.

  • @ebby3215

    @ebby3215

    3 ай бұрын

    @@link6913 ur so right i forgot

  • @verbatim7508
    @verbatim75083 ай бұрын

    The Kikoken strength Chun-Li uses to walk or Drive Rush behind is not the Heavy version-she uses Light/Medium for that. The Heavy version travels very fast, but it dissipates much quicker, so it's more common for Chuns to use this version as a far-reaching "poke" of sorts, rather than something to walk behind. I imagine it's very annoying to deal with this move at the mid range, so they nerfed the recovery to prevent people from harassing people too much with it. also, i find it super funny how whenever people try demonstrating how "easy" it is to confirm chun's 4/6mp, they simply can't get it lol

  • @ShiaOnKick

    @ShiaOnKick

    3 ай бұрын

    cant have something thats unique and effective right

  • @DrBlitzk
    @DrBlitzk3 ай бұрын

    Great video Brian, just a thing, I think in the translations from HiFight he means that Level 2 supers won't allow for super meter gain with follow ups, instead of what you mention that is drive meter Cheers!

  • @erghjunk
    @erghjunk3 ай бұрын

    this analysis on drive reversal is top shelf. thanks!

  • @elidamonsterz4222
    @elidamonsterz42223 ай бұрын

    Why can't i hear Edit: hearing has been restored

  • @Hibiki-Kuze

    @Hibiki-Kuze

    3 ай бұрын

    Me too 😂

  • @Zolwiol
    @Zolwiol3 ай бұрын

    Pretty sure "meter gain" nerfs with SA2 are for super meter not drive. So you can't get half of a bar back in Chun combo post SA2 for example

  • @iamseph
    @iamseph3 ай бұрын

    Yea.. lets wait for the official change list, im sure theres a lot that hasnt been discovered.

  • @joaquinbitancor1269

    @joaquinbitancor1269

    3 ай бұрын

    Yeah and also, isn't the "try Akuma" event until May 6th? Theres gonna be much stuff that will be reported the next few days and just like with the capcom cup patch people are gonna say stuff that isn't really true but they believe to be true

  • @laffy7204
    @laffy72043 ай бұрын

    I just realized if Jamie spaces his lunging punch move he might be -1 or 0 on block

  • @azdart
    @azdart3 ай бұрын

    What in the hell, why Lily get a nerf? Why?!! She was not enough bottom tier???!

  • @EXFrost

    @EXFrost

    3 ай бұрын

    Not confirmed

  • @SunnyDaking_
    @SunnyDaking_3 ай бұрын

    That fly on the wall is part of the content

  • @astrangeriremain

    @astrangeriremain

    3 ай бұрын

    A lil homie

  • @bugcatcherharold5315
    @bugcatcherharold53153 ай бұрын

    The changes to drive reversal are good news for Zangief, but would still like to see some air-invulnerability added to lariat (or at least OD lariat?)

  • @kingarthour49
    @kingarthour493 ай бұрын

    one of the most detailed videos on the patch so far, thanks

  • @jdzl
    @jdzl3 ай бұрын

    Great vid. And congrats on the win!

  • @MeanieBean
    @MeanieBean3 ай бұрын

    maybe by -2f at throw range what they mean is that if you're in throw range with jamie so pretty much face to face and you palm, you end up with a -2 frame, is what i understood.

  • @timothy4428
    @timothy44283 ай бұрын

    One of Gief's few ways to get Oki was after back throw...😭

  • @A2ZOMG

    @A2ZOMG

    3 ай бұрын

    People should have been using crouch throw instead of back throw anyway because Gief can't shimmy after corner backthrow. Low key this is actually a buff if Gief 2 Throw isn't changed because people will start using the already better option. If you think I'm joking, literally watch how many times top Gief players either lose the corner to forwards jump or perfect parry after 4 throw. That kind of RPS is actually something Gief often can't afford, whereas 2 Throw lets you actually anti air while still being plus enough to whiff punish with L/M SPD.

  • @gameologian7365
    @gameologian73653 ай бұрын

    lol Honda getting a great mp that is also plus means he’s a better Manon now.

  • @ensanesane

    @ensanesane

    3 ай бұрын

    ... except Honda st mp is 10 frames and his grab is much worse

  • @_r0n1n15

    @_r0n1n15

    3 ай бұрын

    Heabdutt

  • @XEndlessSteelX

    @XEndlessSteelX

    3 ай бұрын

    Anything is better than Manon, even a fat man in a diaper 🤣

  • @cosmic5665

    @cosmic5665

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@XEndlessSteelXthat fat man in a diaper would be one of the most intimidating characters irl

  • @josquinlanglois2554
    @josquinlanglois25543 ай бұрын

    Brine has to be ecstatic about the death of edmond honda

  • @Cosmoman78
    @Cosmoman783 ай бұрын

    I am excited for Ryu buff!! On the other hand, Honda getting nerfs are crazy, like WTF?? Honda already has issues even in his current state, which make him barely competitive. They really dead set on making him a joke character?

  • @kye4216

    @kye4216

    3 ай бұрын

    He is already a joke character that’s why they are nerfing his braindead stuff. Hopefully they give him some buffs in other areas to make him a real character

  • @gameclips5734

    @gameclips5734

    3 ай бұрын

    they only nerfed the scrubby aspects of the character, not stuff that good players will care about

  • @kye4216

    @kye4216

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gameclips5734 the problem is Hondas only good stuff is the scrubby stuff.

  • @gameclips5734

    @gameclips5734

    3 ай бұрын

    @@kye4216 good honda players don't just spam headbutt and sumo slam even though the changes barely affects those moves anyway

  • @kye4216

    @kye4216

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gameclips5734 the changes absolutely cripple headbutt you can just punish it with a jump now.

  • @HellecticMojo
    @HellecticMojo3 ай бұрын

    I've noticed zero anti air mentions. I sincerely hope bunch of anti airs got buffed.

  • @blaire9524

    @blaire9524

    3 ай бұрын

    It is very underwhelming

  • @gameclips5734

    @gameclips5734

    3 ай бұрын

    they mentioned DJ's got nerfed, what's wrong with current AA's? Or do you mean normal moves?

  • @HellecticMojo

    @HellecticMojo

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gameclips5734 so a lot of the weaker characters really have dysfunctional anti airs right now. Gief is notorious for having level 1 super whiff, and his lariat loses upper body air invincibility as soon as the move becomes active, resulting in trades over clean anti air hits and he can't do anything after a cHP hit. Both AKI and Dhalsim have long horizontal anti airs that are too slow to actually use as anti airs (medium whip, back HP). AKI has bunch of dead zones on her anti air. Jamie's need to be timed weirdly because his anti air hits so low to the ground. For moves designed as anti airs, they either whiff or trade against air a lot.

  • @gameclips5734

    @gameclips5734

    3 ай бұрын

    @@HellecticMojo i'd argue that some AA's are designed to be less consistent, especially ones with very simple inputs like gief's lariat. They also fixed his SA1 already? I thought AKI used heavy whip for AA which looks pretty fast to me and she has normal options. Dhalsim is a zoner with lots of options to keep the opponent out, i think giving him even more easy AA normals would just make the character unbalanced. Idk much about jamie's DP but I could believe it's awkward to use.

  • @DudleyGrim

    @DudleyGrim

    3 ай бұрын

    Honda’s certainly didn’t. I’m honestly worried that this headbutt nerf is going to completely kill using light headbutt as an anti air

  • @theJollyPaleGiant
    @theJollyPaleGiant3 ай бұрын

    I'm glad they're rewarding players who are smart, with their drive gauge, in the next patch. Kind of wild that players could overextend their offense and have little to no downsides.

  • @EstelleFGC
    @EstelleFGC3 ай бұрын

    I think the biggest thing about the drive reversal change is that a lot of 6 frames tend to not be very big so if you're shimmying someone and they drive reversal on wake up you might end up out of range to even punish but up close you can punish it. making drive reversal beat both throw AND shimmies at the cost of 2 sticks of drive gauge

  • @SickLiq
    @SickLiq3 ай бұрын

    If they don't make Zangief, Lilly, Honda or Manon competitive, they're probably going to lose me. I'm sick of watching the same characters all the time in tournaments. They'll probably just sell us new OP characters instead.

  • @RafaelSantos-mz3hg

    @RafaelSantos-mz3hg

    3 ай бұрын

    Same to me

  • @Aggrofool

    @Aggrofool

    3 ай бұрын

    Capcom Grappler Tax ™ You gotta pay up.

  • @doctordice2doctordice210

    @doctordice2doctordice210

    3 ай бұрын

    Do you though? Because the list of characters is like 9 long with occasional surprises almost every tournament

  • @ethangonzalez9265

    @ethangonzalez9265

    3 ай бұрын

    @@doctordice2doctordice210 top 8 for evo was literally 3 kens, 2 lukes, 2 jp, 2 blanka, a chun li and a guile. thats 5 top tiers, 5 zoner types near top tier and chun-li who people also say it top tier when played well. Its not a very diverse group.

  • @doctordice2doctordice210

    @doctordice2doctordice210

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ethangonzalez9265 yeah but that's one tournament, I guess rashid and juri winning tournaments means nothing

  • @guga6665
    @guga66653 ай бұрын

    The meter changes for SA2 are on Super meter, not the Drive meter.

  • @achair7958
    @achair79583 ай бұрын

    I'm so excited for those Ryu changes, getting to keep denjin for hasho combos and still throw fireballs would be so nice

  • @MrShinTensei
    @MrShinTensei3 ай бұрын

    Chun and Cammy getting nerfed yet Luke ken pretty much unchanged? Hah ain't no way right? Right? There has to be more lol 😅

  • @gameclips5734

    @gameclips5734

    3 ай бұрын

    these are just things people noticed, what are you talking about?

  • @TR-qn1hs

    @TR-qn1hs

    3 ай бұрын

    Ken already got nerfed its Cammys turn

  • @1000Tomatoes
    @1000Tomatoes3 ай бұрын

    The chun change would also mean 4/6mp is also worse as a poke because the di cancel window is smaller. It was already a good poke though so it's not like it's the end of the world.

  • @DannySi
    @DannySi3 ай бұрын

    an idea maybe you could get one of your viewers that play the characters to showcase some of the things you haven't learned like the DJ lvl 2 stuff or chun li combos.

  • @leonardopadilla1418
    @leonardopadilla14183 ай бұрын

    The only thing i want for Manon is to give her 1 extra frame to counter crouching LP on hit so it can be link to standing LK. Sooo many times its been the only thing i can do to get my turn back but its so short that it usually doesnt link to itself.

  • @xencloud
    @xencloud3 ай бұрын

    Love the in-depth video's, you're the SF people's scientist!

  • @chrisludwig4729
    @chrisludwig47293 ай бұрын

    Unpopular opinion, but throw loops aren't that bad. I'm fine with the idea of drive reversal beating them, but in the current state of SF6 they are a necessary threat

  • @THernane
    @THernane3 ай бұрын

    Amazing video! Thank you very much.

  • @AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz
    @AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz3 ай бұрын

    my question is why is drive reversal so slow?

  • @duvalpenny100
    @duvalpenny1003 ай бұрын

    -6 on drive reversal sucks lol. This benefits faster characters with 6 frame mediums and hurts everybody else. Just make it 0 on block or keep it -8.

  • @hihellokitty85
    @hihellokitty853 ай бұрын

    Capcom: "Juri won the Capcom Cup. so, No soup for you!"

  • @naindoza
    @naindoza3 ай бұрын

    The quality of life change for Cammy's level two is actually not a great one because the input now overlaps with spin knuckle, meaning you cannot buffer spin knuckles for free without getting SA2 on accident. So that's a third nerf, imo. Strange that she gets three nerfs despite such little representation on the top level.

  • @aldenhayes914
    @aldenhayes9143 ай бұрын

    Lily nerfs. Because that's what we needed.

  • @CrystalMang0

    @CrystalMang0

    3 ай бұрын

    It's not confirmed and also who cares cause it's literally just a whiff hurtbox change. Anyone can get hurtbox change for good reason. Doesnt affect her tier at all

  • @Aggrofool

    @Aggrofool

    3 ай бұрын

    Wind gods have completely ditched her

  • @Cosmoman78

    @Cosmoman78

    3 ай бұрын

    ​​@@CrystalMang0Thats the issue. She needs some buffs. Nothing change is already painful, much more painful if she got nerfed, no matter how small it is.

  • @notimeforcreativenamesjust3034

    @notimeforcreativenamesjust3034

    3 ай бұрын

    @@CrystalMang0she needs just straight up buffs, zero nerfs.

  • @ethangonzalez9265

    @ethangonzalez9265

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Cosmoman78 what she needs is a complete rework. Right now her current kit makes her a TERRIBLE match up for gief, probably one of his worst and hes already a bottom tier if not the very bottom. They need to change how she works instead of buffing her to make her a terrible matchup for everybody like runaway zoners like Ed.

  • @gameclips5734
    @gameclips57343 ай бұрын

    great news, will finally have a reason to use drive reversal for the first time

  • @DCFHazardRebornChannel
    @DCFHazardRebornChannel3 ай бұрын

    I am going to assume there are more changes. I am hoping for less nerfs and less and less. Ive been saying this all along, more buffs, less nerfs. As a Ken main, I feel he works perfect as his intended strategy. Why not make other characters work on the same level? Give them some better normals here and there, add some variants to their specials for more uses, noticed some characters simply have light, medium and strong on a special and nothing much from it changes other than range or speed or damage, whereas utility is also important. Like Ryu, he has light tatsu for creating space, medium for corner carry, high tatsu for corner swap. These are very important tools that can be used in different situations. More buffs, less nerfs. I am still of this opinion. But the way this is going I am not so sure I should be happy or not. The wake up reversal is a huge deal and I can't wait to try it out. The rest all mostly sounds like nerfs rather than buffs except for Ryus' denjin change. I didn't see the entire video but I saw other videos out there too and it feels skewed more to nerfs than buffs. So I am expecting to see more nerfs for Ken as well. I mean, again as a Ken main I see a nerf here that is total scrub bait, you are practically checking if someone is mindlessly spamming you. They nerf this? Really? THIS? This is like saying "we see some players are playing Mashing Fighter 6, so we will incentivize them to continue doing it by taking away a punish against mashing".... Which makes me wonder, wtf else are they going to nerf on Ken if they would even nerf something as ridiculous as this? There is a chance its the only nerf, but I also doubt this. I doubt this is the final version that we will get in a month from now. On a side note, its not even a nerf in some occasions. Reason being that they could interupt with invincible reversals after that initial medium punch so now if they are in block stun it makes it safer to start your target combo and go into jinrai kick if it doesn't land etc. So depending on the situation, its not even a clear nerf, its a buff for Ken in those cases, and a nerf for scrub checks... Idk, seems like the dumbest change ever and if this is the only change Ken will get (which it wont), we will not hear the end of the whining for another year. Omggggg, Ken is so brooookeeeeen. Yeah, stfu. At least Akuma will be out and people will be complaining about someone else for a change. Problem is, I am probably switching to Akuma too. lol. Talk about hearing whining all day long. Why can't they simply just buff the other cast more? Do we need to bring the top level down to the lower levels? Can't we for once have a situation where we bring the lower levels up to the top levels? Just a thought.

  • @DRAPEDinDARKNESS
    @DRAPEDinDARKNESS3 ай бұрын

    Do you think these are real? Those buffs would be really good for Aki.

  • @SupraSayianOfficial
    @SupraSayianOfficial3 ай бұрын

    Excellent breakdown!!!

  • @anonymous7024
    @anonymous70243 ай бұрын

    Brian is the second person ive seen use 4MP>4HP for Ken's target combo in this game

  • @braydenp.3556
    @braydenp.35563 ай бұрын

    The chun li medium punch nerf is WAYYY TOO MUCH bruh. Like omg your telling me Ken, Luke and Ryu and alot of the cast can have the mediums and heavy that can snipe you and take up most of the screen (we all know how Ken's hp feels), but chuns heavy is extremely situational and long startup and recovery, doesn't combo already, and you get hit out of it by everything. So we also need to nerf chuns only good utility button?? Wayyy too much imo -yes I am crying

  • @coolman5242
    @coolman52423 ай бұрын

    Making Lily's cr.HP even more punishable is such bullshit. It's one of her few actually strong normals and you can just drive impact her when you see her do it. Hopefully the full patch notes will show buffs to her other normals.

  • @serg10xm.69
    @serg10xm.693 ай бұрын

    It will be nice to see the developers thoughts behind the changes, like "we think Lily is too OP because of this and that so we neefed her" or " we really dont want anyone to play this character, so we nerfed her"

  • @ibechuu9695
    @ibechuu96953 ай бұрын

    Why nerf Lily!? Come on Capcom what the heck? SHE'S BOTTOM TIER!

  • @EXFrost

    @EXFrost

    3 ай бұрын

    Not confirmed in the slightest

  • @Aggrofool

    @Aggrofool

    3 ай бұрын

    Capcom Grappler Tax ™

  • @HungarianWarHorse
    @HungarianWarHorse3 ай бұрын

    Yes drive reversal is so big for gief, being able to get someone off you is huge

  • @SkarjOS
    @SkarjOS3 ай бұрын

    This thumbnail is evil

  • @gab_gabriel7091
    @gab_gabriel70913 ай бұрын

    Damn when they said my man was silenced I didn't think they meant literally 😭😭

  • @ntrpotato6675
    @ntrpotato66753 ай бұрын

    Why did Honda's headbutt get nerfed but Blanka's blanka ball remained the same? Is there something I'm missing?

  • @Zachary_Sweis
    @Zachary_Sweis3 ай бұрын

    @39:44 I wonder if he meant "is now a true blockstring", but miss typed it.

  • @DragynFyre12
    @DragynFyre123 ай бұрын

    Really wish they wouldnt make Drive Reversal 6+HP+HK. It should be like V-Shift and use MK+HP or something.

  • @_ADiSSY
    @_ADiSSY3 ай бұрын

    Just hope reversal can actually beat spinning knuckle. But more wanted, everyone should have consistent anti airs

  • @mysteriousfox88
    @mysteriousfox883 ай бұрын

    so 8 lukes in top 8?

  • @dannyrivas40
    @dannyrivas403 ай бұрын

    I'll take that for lily. Its gonna be a big help for me.

  • @Inojin67
    @Inojin673 ай бұрын

    I was only joking that Hibiki would get Lily nerfed, I didn't expect it to actually happen LMAO

  • @joedatius

    @joedatius

    3 ай бұрын

    well we dont know if it happened all of this is pretty up in the air rn

  • @beircheartaghaistin2332
    @beircheartaghaistin23323 ай бұрын

    I just wanna know if they're even gonna bother with the input problems. Still waiting 😂

  • @sammorin254
    @sammorin2543 ай бұрын

    Celebrating nerfs on Honda is just mean, what is this big boi hate...😢

  • @XEndlessSteelX

    @XEndlessSteelX

    3 ай бұрын

    We only hate big bois who keep sitting on people without consent 😂

  • @sammorin254

    @sammorin254

    3 ай бұрын

    @@XEndlessSteelX ah, good point.

  • @workoutfanatic7873
    @workoutfanatic78733 ай бұрын

    Please buff Jamie and Manon. For Jamie - he gets to keep his Lvl 1 drink. If that’s too much, at least give him his target combo w/ 0 drinks, with the extend St. jab hitbox. For Manon - too many to name 😂. And please nerf Ken. Even though I main Ken, two mixups and you’re dead each round.

  • @EXFrost

    @EXFrost

    3 ай бұрын

    Jamie already got loads of amazing buffs and ur change is super boring and antithetical to the character's existence

  • @erichan7926
    @erichan79263 ай бұрын

    dude thinking about sfv, ken's tc is standing mp hp not back mp.

  • @sehrschee
    @sehrschee3 ай бұрын

    I am all for anything really that kind a helps against throw loops tbh..

  • @psp785
    @psp7853 ай бұрын

    Dj,ken,luke,jp and ed nerf notes should be an entire paragraph

  • @deesix3504
    @deesix35043 ай бұрын

    I'm a Rashid main and I absolutely agree that his LV2 needs to be nerfed. However, if they don't somehow buff his other aspects, he's dropping straight to mid tier. I've got a few ideas: smk less pushback on hit, fwd mp first hit moves further, h mixer got a dp input and invin air from frame 1 (buff his anti air somehow goddamnit), slight damage buff, more juggle points.

  • @EXFrost

    @EXFrost

    3 ай бұрын

    Nah

  • @deesix3504

    @deesix3504

    3 ай бұрын

    @@EXFrost what do u mean nah?

  • @Cashmoneez
    @Cashmoneez3 ай бұрын

    Waiting 1 year for a patch and we get this. fkin comedy

  • @clydu91

    @clydu91

    3 ай бұрын

    You're an absolute clown. This doesn't cover anywhere near the full patch that'll come out because 1) it's an Akuma demo build 2) this is after a day on the demo build.

  • @ClearComplexity
    @ClearComplexity3 ай бұрын

    Cliff size grains of salt taken on stuff like this. There's no way the only change happening to Lily is a nerf. Literally her only good button that can lead into a special without meter/stocks gets nerfed, they have to give something somewhere else to compensate.

  • @WeirdEdz
    @WeirdEdz3 ай бұрын

    Instead of drive reversal on wake up i would've liked a drive shift mechanic like v-shift. Make it wake up only.

  • @iamlpdo19
    @iamlpdo193 ай бұрын

    No buffs for Lily?!?! That means all I can do is wait for that R Mika dlc I guess smhhhh

  • @NeteruSolink
    @NeteruSolink3 ай бұрын

    Odd they nerfed H kikouken instead of M or L since those are the ones she can follow behind

  • @azuresaiyan9005
    @azuresaiyan90053 ай бұрын

    PSA: These aren't the full list of changes or even confirmed accurate. Don't jump to conclusions, people.

  • @Brian_F

    @Brian_F

    3 ай бұрын

    If you watch just 1 whole minute of the video before commenting as well I mention all the caveats for these changes :)

  • @azuresaiyan9005

    @azuresaiyan9005

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Brian_FUmm, I did. I’m just trying to spread the word.

  • @SNO568

    @SNO568

    3 ай бұрын

    @@azuresaiyan9005I guarantee you people didn’t click on the video to read the comments first

  • @PopoTCG

    @PopoTCG

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@SNO568I am doing that exactly now

  • @ADreamingTraveler

    @ADreamingTraveler

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Brian_F I mean it doesn't help how your video thumbnail looks. So of course people are going to look at that and just assume Luke got buffs and Lily got nerfs without it being confirmed. Especially considering Lily's one potential nerf has a (maybe?) next to it which means they're even more unsure of that than any of these other changes.

  • @damibaut3577
    @damibaut35773 ай бұрын

    Ok, I dont really like the changes on Drive reversal, now can be abused if opponent is burnout without consecuences

  • @kriscotd76
    @kriscotd763 ай бұрын

    Interesting that they did that to head butt which you can PP,but blanka which PP his ball most characters not punishing it with .he should of gotten the same nerf

  • @pretzels7437
    @pretzels74373 ай бұрын

    I just want ed to have a better jab and some new moves. The vskill 2 he had in sfv was cool taking after balrog and he really doesn't have a move like balrog either. I know his pick rate will drop to near 0% but he's still one of the more fun boxing characters ive played so far

  • @a.gss7714

    @a.gss7714

    3 ай бұрын

    His full screen charge punch is literally a balrog move.

  • @joedatius

    @joedatius

    3 ай бұрын

    he's not balrog.

  • @epicpumpkin8876
    @epicpumpkin88763 ай бұрын

    For Luke's bhk nerf he loses a whopping 300 damage. Which is negligible

  • @salimk8252
    @salimk82523 ай бұрын

    What about Raw Drive Rush??? Don’t tell me it has not been nerfed !!

  • @joedatius

    @joedatius

    3 ай бұрын

    why would it be nerfed.

  • @thetruestar6348
    @thetruestar63483 ай бұрын

    Lily not getting ANYTHING major is such a mistake

  • @jamesbalewa932

    @jamesbalewa932

    3 ай бұрын

    It's the first day of the event, the people get 10 mins to play for their session, and Lily isn't a very popular character, especially in Japan. We gotta wait longer than this to judge any possible changes.

  • @illprox9679

    @illprox9679

    3 ай бұрын

    I always imagine Lily doesnt get much cause as weak as she can be she is one buff away from being broken if that makes sense.

  • @kaleidoslug7777

    @kaleidoslug7777

    3 ай бұрын

    This is nowhere near the complete patch notes

  • @Bos_roseus

    @Bos_roseus

    3 ай бұрын

    You barely had some reports of a trial version of the game. Calm down and take a hot chocolate...

  • @GreenBro11

    @GreenBro11

    3 ай бұрын

    No one plays Lily. I doubt there’s a single Lily main at the event to use their 10 mins testing her over playing Akuma.

  • @BHS289
    @BHS2893 ай бұрын

    Chun players told me HP Kikoken was nerfed on the Ed build too 🙃

  • @WhatAMagician
    @WhatAMagician3 ай бұрын

    Why are they nerfing Honda the hero has been low tier forever. What is the logic behind this lmao

  • @stilllivinginheaven

    @stilllivinginheaven

    3 ай бұрын

    Don't spam heavy headbutt lol and he's the same

  • @cosmic5665

    @cosmic5665

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@stilllivinginheavenheadbutt and buttslam are literally the only things he has

  • @juice6521

    @juice6521

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@cosmic5665 If the only thing you have is headbutt and slam then you're not playing street fighter.

  • @stilllivinginheaven

    @stilllivinginheaven

    3 ай бұрын

    @@cosmic5665 that means ryu only has fireball and shoryu

  • @azirlincurve2982

    @azirlincurve2982

    3 ай бұрын

    @@juice6521 try playing neutral with 10f mediums

  • @smokepotion6981
    @smokepotion69813 ай бұрын

    Dhalsim approves of wake-up DR

  • @jamaledwards8118
    @jamaledwards81183 ай бұрын

    I think these balances played out due to the wake up drive reversals and drive reversals being minus 6. However I'm not sure why nerf game play of less successful characters and nerf the "fun" of gimmick characters. Majority of the gimmick characters struggles to win. I will say I like the idea of a guessing game from knock down. Kind of remind me of the older sf vs getting rolled over and at best resetting neutral depending on the character. Its no surprise Luke isnt nerfed. I hate to say this and even capcom admitted they do play favorites. Ryu was bad but thats bad for business now Luke and Ryu can share the same stage. Zangief got another small buff and and explanation we already knew. However one small step could turn into one large leap in the right way for gief. Thats the only char im concerned with.

  • @dansmith8417
    @dansmith84173 ай бұрын

    Drive reversal change is huge. The weakest part of my game just got shored up nicely. No more throw loops and corner cheese will get the DR. You Cammy and Juri players are about to get what's coming to ya 🤪

  • @allpissedup229
    @allpissedup2293 ай бұрын

    37:40 - "Actually the highest command grab damage in the game" Using an OD grab, all of his meter for a CA super AND he needs to be level 4 to get that damage. So yeah... Another completely unnecessary nerf

  • @1998jroy
    @1998jroy3 ай бұрын

    Kimberly changes are great

  • @charliedreemur1377
    @charliedreemur13773 ай бұрын

    if JP only have sa2 nerf, and some change side combo still exist but may have less damage (less 200-300 in average) It may not be a nerf for JP with the existance of new drive reversal. But anyway this make 22k more useless, I will rather do drive reversal instead of 22k in most cases

  • @CosmicRPG
    @CosmicRPG3 ай бұрын

    He this became true, Honda&Lily dont exist anymore.

  • @neumanotavio
    @neumanotavio3 ай бұрын

    360p gang

  • @DerpyTC

    @DerpyTC

    3 ай бұрын

    good thing i only watch videos in 144p