Story of the Subcontinent - Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed | Abbas Haidar | ViewPoint
Today, the 9th of November, 2021, marks the 144th Birthday of Allama Dr. Iqbal, the thinker of Pakistan. So, today, let's revisit the Complete Story of the Subcontinent with Award-Winning Writer and Political Scientist, Dr. @Billumian47.
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Dr. Ishtiaq is my mentor in history, he has great energy to narrate his research and knowledge. I pray to God he may live long !
@ranjitganguly1416
2 жыл бұрын
Pakistan is non democratic country.
@vinodmishra2888
2 жыл бұрын
Pak. Avam. अपना. Sach. Itehas. ही. Jan. ले. Pak. महान. नंगे. होंगे. हथियार. के कमीशन. तो. मिलता. मगर. जंग. 48..65. 71. 99. से. कितना. पेसे. हथियार. खरीदे. होंगे. अवाम. मरो. कम्यूनिस्ट. सत्ता. मे. डालर. बनाओ. पाक. अवाम
@krishnakhumaar2353
2 жыл бұрын
which god ur abhramic god createdby abbasi or eternal hindu common read sachwala
@riteshranjan2130
2 жыл бұрын
Professor Ahmad"s vast knowledge and clarity of thoughts is really impressive...
@zaheerzulfiqar1885
2 жыл бұрын
@@vinodmishra2888 Dear Vinod Mishra, I cannot read Hindi.
Sharp, lucid, analytical, diligent, and meticulous, respectful and humble. Ishtiaq Ahmed is an exemplary role model for the subcontinent.
@MrVivekmane
2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree Sir
@antrikshchib1988
2 жыл бұрын
I'll second that.
Well since the discussion here was so frank I would like to say that Hinduism is an organic faith. For example: the sun gives us warmth and light, helps crops grow and at the same time has the power of parching the people and scorching the earth. Repsect and awe for the sun is very basal and similarly you can find the sun achieving a divine status in Hinduism. Same way, in the agrarian way of life, cattle is extremely important. From milk to ploughing it plays a vital role. Hence the bovine animals attained a status of respect and divinity. People may call this primitive and this is obviously open to argument, but I stand by this argument
@imgn8r715
2 жыл бұрын
The irony though is lost on the country that a foreign sport that involves a ball covered in slaughtered cow skin being thrown about, smashed with a stick, spat on, and rubbed on one's behind is so popular that it is considered a religion! Talking about cricket in case anyone was wondering. Not to mention the starving and abandoned bovine animals betrays the reality that the true intention behind the love for the bovine is really no more than an excuse for hate of certain segments of society.
@AdityaKumar-rj2uf
2 жыл бұрын
@@imgn8r715 well, since you picked up the bovine issue, leather trade is allowed in India in the name of liberalism. And your discourse makes me feel like you are a liberal yourself. Stop leather trade tomorrow and the left will flood the streets with their own set of objections. So, what is your solution?
@imgn8r715
2 жыл бұрын
@@AdityaKumar-rj2uf Whether the left will protest the leather ban or not is speculation. I am more interested in knowing why Hindus who are against cow slaughter not protesting cricket where balls are wrapped in slaughtered cow skin?
@AdityaKumar-rj2uf
2 жыл бұрын
@@imgn8r715 well there's a lot of things to protest for. Like the independence of Balochistan, creation of Pakhtunistan and of course, Sindhudesh as well. So of all the things on earth, you want to communalise and politicise cricket balls?
@yinyang.333
2 жыл бұрын
@@imgn8r715 In hindus cows are revered that means they are not supposed to be killed. We have already been wearing belts, using combs and jewelry and ornaments in ancient times were made of cow products. Obviously cows were not killed for making them but they were made from dead cows, this is just to prove you wrong that Hindus enjoy a free pass to hate anyone who kills cows. It's you who has a communal bigot and I can sense the deep poison in you to hate hindus but alas since you cont you tried to take a lame example to demean Hindus. Go and clean your own soul coz you never how many products are made of pork skin which you so much consider to be haram and would come on street with naked swords to kill anyone whoever mixes pork or pork related products in your daily lifestyle. Tch tch
He speaks the truth based on hard facts that's the reason why he is respected a lot in India, but not much in Pakistan.
@hemalbhatt4055
2 жыл бұрын
People who speak truth are never Respected in Pakistan. Unfortunately if you do not respect the person who speaks truth, you end up losing a leader
@imranyousaf5389
2 жыл бұрын
True
@Zainab-jb7lr
2 жыл бұрын
@@hemalbhatt4055 you guys dnt respect Arundhati Roy
@hemalbhatt4055
2 жыл бұрын
@@Zainab-jb7lr You guys don't respect many Pakistani people like tareek fatah, Hussain Haqqani,
@Zainab-jb7lr
2 жыл бұрын
@@hemalbhatt4055 Hussain haqqani yes.Tariq Fatah.. no...he is a big lot with zero integrity
This is content for a complete audio book. As an Indian this is one Pakistani who has taught me so much about my own nation.
Hindutva is only a reaction. It’s a defensive and a belated refusal to put up with bigotry. No one in India wants to overturn the secular nature of the state. The proportion of Muslims in India has risen from 10 to 15%. Any comparison with what Pakistan has done to its minorities is false equivalence.
@einsteinwallah2
2 жыл бұрын
himangshu bhai not true we want to discover our hindu roots just to see if original was secular or not ... if not at least we need to find writings of charvaks and other atheists and other lost works like aryabhat's second text which is lost
@dennisthemenace4288
2 жыл бұрын
@@einsteinwallah2 we have a lot of dalit writings and if they started reacting the same way hindutva does and call it " their reactionary or defensary action" then they will start frowning. Anyways that's not a defense that's an excuse to be radical. Just like recently right-wing groups stormed into a convent school in Madhya Pradesh and pelted stones at the building over claims of conversion of students to Christianity. The incident took place at St Joseph School in Ganj Basoda on Monday even as students were taking an exam, which had to be stopped because of the incident. Sure those students will grow up loving hindutvawadis. And here's a fun fact, convent school have hindu student majority because of obvious 80% vs 2.3%. "no one change the secular nature" Who are demanding hindu rasta"?
@tahirahmad9376
2 жыл бұрын
Very very good information by Dr, sahib thanks to Abbas bhai,you have dugout The history. Good suggestions by Dr sb. Keep it up 👍
@sarfm266
2 жыл бұрын
Haha 😂 you are so funny
@nutanfulmali3798
Жыл бұрын
@@einsteinwallah2 research of past literature and society is good things. Finding out ancient knowledge is also good. But County, people and society which we have today should be based on present value which respect human rights and humanity. Because democracy was not present in old times in India. Secularism is required for a Democratic country work.
This guy is a very good interviewer. I dont know why this guy hasn't received the resources to do better production value to his program yet. Great questions and great analytical approach. Count me a fan of Abbas Haidar. More power to you.
Mr. Haider, myself being a student of history cant thank you enough for this wonderful interview!
I have always admired and respected Dr. ISHTIYAK AHMED, he is a learned, experienced, unprejudiced and very seasoned historian. He is very broad-based and unflinchingly hard hitting when it comes to facing and dealing with indisputable truth. How many people across the world have this integrity and character ?
@RP027
2 жыл бұрын
Jinnah literally created Pakistan out of thin air. He made sure Muslim have a safe Islamic country for themselves. Meanwhile what did Gandhi achieved? Hindus are still struggling in India? Do Hindus have a safe Hindu country for themselves? Right now, Muslim have 2 countries, Pakistan, Bangladesh. Hindus have no State in the world and Hindu population is declining. Who is loosing?
If Mujibur was treacherous against Pakistan then why Mr jinnah was not treacherous of Indian national congress and united India
@shehzadnoor9907
2 жыл бұрын
Mr jinnah was not treacherous of India as Mr savarkar was not treacherous of India
@shehzadnoor9907
2 жыл бұрын
mujib separated east-west Pakistan on the basis of bangali race. 1972 separation East-west pakistan was separated on the basis of religion from India. 1947 separation now even bangali's suffer an identity crisis on the basis of 1947-1972 independence, which india can easily exploit. kashmiri's also need to understand this, if they are with a 1947 separation it is on the basis of religion (which the indians can not easily revert), but if they separate on a 2021 basis, it will be due to kashmiri race, a decision the indians will easily revert in a couple of generations.
@sreekantcp
2 жыл бұрын
@@shehzadnoor9907 IDENTITY CRISIS STILL EXIST IN PAKISTAN.
@shehzadnoor9907
2 жыл бұрын
@@sreekantcp Bangladesh has two independence 1947 and 1972. They have an identity crisis. Independence of Pakistan was on the basis of Two nation theory. What Kashmiri's should say is that they want independence according to 1947 then there is no identity crisis. Only Islam separates You cleanly from the indian's as no other force does.
@sreekantcp
2 жыл бұрын
@@shehzadnoor9907 WHY DON'T YOU MENTION BALUCH, SINDH, PAKHTUN IDENTITY CRISIS
We feel very proud to recount that after partition , when Prime Minister Liaqat Ali Khan of newly created Pakistan had invited MH Premji father of Azim Premji ( of WIPRO ) to come to Pakistan where he was offered the post of Finance Minister of Pakistan . Well ,the senior Premji refused saying that he would not leave his Motherland India.
@akaj188
2 жыл бұрын
Mahindra And Mohammad ( now Mahindra And Mahindra ) The famous Indian vehicle ( jeep ) manufacturer Mahindra and Mahindra was originally ( before 1947 ) named Mahindra and Mohammad .Partner Sir Malik Ghulam Mohammad chose Pakistan and , to the best of our knowledge , became the first Finance Minister of Pakistan ( a Post which was declined by the then WIPRO Chairman )
@petrolecinternational7435
2 жыл бұрын
MH Premji should have left.
@thebestevertherewas
2 жыл бұрын
@@petrolecinternational7435 In retrospect it was a good decision. Look at the economies of present day India and Pakistan. You'll get your answer. But at the time Per Capita GDP of Pakistan was greater than that of India. Azim Premji was quite Shrewd.
@dennisthemenace4288
2 жыл бұрын
@@thebestevertherewas useless to feed sense into a "bhakt" (slang for bjp supporters). Azim is one of the top donors (financial donations) in india but his muslim background is enough to overshadow his achievements and good gestures.
@dennisthemenace4288
2 жыл бұрын
@@akaj188 wow, thanks for the info. That would have been good see, but 😓.
I admire the works of Dr Ahmed. Follow him thoroughly across numerous platforms. Great effort from Abbas Haidar saab.
After a long time I have heard so wonderful, informative, insightful, unbiased and objective an interview. Probably the best of 2021. Kudos to you Abbas ji and Dr. Ahmed ji.
@salimalvi5178
Жыл бұрын
Islam is the real problem of Pakistan. After the last popat first five khalifas were murdered in khanajungi. So khanajungi was past, is present & future of Pakistan. Islam like Christianity, Marxism and Fiat Currency like $ driven hedonistic consumerism ask converts to cut their roots of native spirituality, native languages, native culture and pride in achievements of native ancestors. With roots gone they become rootless parasites. Rootless parasites are easy cannon fodder to build evil enslaving empires like Roman, Khilafat, Mughlai, British colonial empire and Dollar's economic empire.
Abbas Haider I am at 40 minutes right now and what an amazing interview...my hats off to you my man....I am searching for Professor Ishtiaq Ahmed's books now will try to read all his books. Well done Abbas Haider and Professor Ishatiaq Ahmed....👍👍👍👍👍
@mulhidal-eslam
2 жыл бұрын
@@AbbasHaidar kush-amdaid bhai 😊 jeetay raho 😊
Abbas, what refreshing and intellectual journeys you have undertaken. Great 👍 debates and much needed introspection for Pakistani society.
@ViewsAndNewsChannel
Жыл бұрын
Prof. Ishtiaq Ahmed said in 2020 what author Nasim Yousaf wrote in 2007 - 15 years ago. پروفیسر اشتیاق احمد نے 2020 میں وہی کہا جو مصنف نسیم یوسف نے 2007 میں لکھا تھا - 15 سال پہلے kzread.info/dash/bejne/qqZ4j5avZLeoeJc.html
Mr. Abbas , there was a superb discussion. In 1947 we did not get freedom, what we got was a manufactured freedom. Britain outplayed the Indian politicians. Muslim league was predominantly made up of feudal and nawab who were very much a collaborator of the British. The real reason for the British leaving India was their precarious financial situation after second world war and huge sacrifice of the azad Hind Fauj of subhas Chandra Bose. It was a INA trial that led to uprising of the Indian armed forces.
Jinnah wore his religion on his sleeve. He was the most un pious human being!!
@muralimurahari4038
2 жыл бұрын
The fervour of 1st generation Hindu convert to Shia Islam. His father converted to Shia Islam after being born Hindu. Grandfather was a Hindu bania,Gujrati speaking.🙂
@life-tainment6666
2 жыл бұрын
@@muralimurahari4038 everyone are converted in Indian subcontinent except Hindus.
@RP027
2 жыл бұрын
Jinnah literally created Pakistan out of thin air. He made sure Muslim have a safe Islamic country for themselves. Meanwhile what did Gandhi achieved? Hindus are still struggling in India? Do Hindus have a safe Hindu country for themselves? You are a Deka, you know what is happening in Assam. In 30 years Assam will be Muslim majority.
@yinyang.333
2 жыл бұрын
@@RP027 Do you even have a stand what are you trying to say. Listen you fool, Hindus are secular breed we don't have a sick concept of having isolated hindu majority like you people have and basis on that fundamental you created a nonsensical Islamic country and look at the difference between Hindustan and Pakistan in 75 years. Haha Hindus are struggling, okay if Hindus are struggling then who's winning? you.? lol.. you worry about Pakistan which is going to be broken into 4 pieces at anytime soon rather than worrying over Assam where BJP has already declared NRC to save its tribe.
@nirmalyamukhopadhyay1769
2 жыл бұрын
I'll definitely try to watch the full video, but am apprehensive whether I will be able to follow the entire discourse on account of the language barrier. If everything is in Urdu, which is a very sweet language without doubt, viewership could be restricted to Pakistan and parts of India where Urdu is the dominant language. So, can we have at least some discourses in English, as well, which is understood by millions across the two countries? Thank you 🙏
Dr. Istiaq Ahmed' s realistic views on partion is logical and the most authentic one.
It was a treat listening to Dr. Ishtiaq sb, loved the whole vlog, and kept me very much engaged. Great information added to my memory, thanks Abbas bhai.
@Himyug859
2 жыл бұрын
RSS bjp on Reaction Not Action
Dr Ishtiaq sir is gem of sub continent 🔥🔥🔥
عباس بھائی بہت اعلی مزہ آ گیا سن کے دونوں لوگوں نے بنا کسی نفرت یا تعصب کے صحیح تاریخ بیان کی ۔ پاکستان میں ایسی باتیں کرنا بہت ہی مشکل یہاں لوگ سچی بات برداشت ہی نہیں کرتے ۔ پاکستان کسی ساری تاریخ جھوٹی اور من گھڑت ہیے جو ہمیں سکول کالجز میں پڑھائی گی
Wonderful conversation. While Dr Ahmed is amazingly insightful, but full kudos to the interviewer Mr Haidar. This interview deserves to be watched by all Indians and Pakistanis
I am surprised that how Pakistani will digest the true narratives of Prof. ISHTIAQ AHMED. Great reseacher and a historian who can speak truth in a highly rediclised and fed with wrong history. My salute to a great man.
It’s always a pleasure to listen to Prof and Mr. Abbas, you are such a fantastic host. Loved listening through the whole discussion. Thanks!
@RP027
2 жыл бұрын
Jinnah literally created Pakistan out of thin air. He made sure Muslim have a safe Islamic country for themselves. Meanwhile what did Gandhi achieved? Hindus are still struggling in India? Do Hindus have a safe Hindu country for themselves? Right now, Muslim have 2 countries, Pakistan, Bangladesh. Hindus have no State in the world and Hindu population is declining. Who is loosing?
@tlcservisesfbtm2271
2 жыл бұрын
@@RP027 , ever heard of a country called Nepal ? It's a Hindu country you can live in if you're feel Hindus with 80% majority are struggling and are unsafe in India.
@mohit6941
Жыл бұрын
@@RP027 we are good being secular and we should feel proud being diversified nation, bcz it make everyone safe.. never think being hindu country bcz we couldn’t achieve something great from that, hindu - hindu mai bhi ladiya hoti hai- or jyda hi hoti hai…these are only political agendas to bring religion in politics to distract mass from asking questions regarding development. as a citizen of India we should work for country only. religion is good only at personal level not national level, it degrades international image bcz you have deal with everyone not hindus only..and in hindus are spreading in European country which never try to be Christian country that’s the one of reason they are progressing. so think about it.
@RP027
Жыл бұрын
@@mohit6941 India will be a Muslim majority by 2100.then cowards like you will flee the country like other Hindus did in 1947
Hi, Mr. Abbas Haider, congratulations for hosting a wonderful program with Mr. Istiaq Ahmed Sir. One of the few remaining political scientist having such a indepth & candid oral and written analysis on Indo-Pak history. As an Indian, I must be great full to our towering leaders who charted such a diverse country India to a democratic, pularistic and progressive nation, having its true role in world affairs. Hats on to you guys, be lately there is a introspection about Pakistan. Wishing you good luck on your endeavor.
Nothing better could be narrated so well, simply and unbiased. Thanks Abbas Haidar.
@imranrashid780
2 жыл бұрын
@@AbbasHaidar yes dear, already done both.
Excellent Objective analysis by Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed
Zabardast! it was so interesting to listen him talking
Didn't expect I'd watch it full, but spent whole 2 hours watching this. Professor sa'ab is very clear headed and sane. May his tribe increase.
Excellent work Abbas Sahib
Great Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed zindabad
BTW and excellent interview. Professor comes out as a great scholar, researcher and gives his unbiased opinion.
What a wonderfully enlightening conversation. Lovely; thank you for speaking the truth.
@arvindkumarverma8154
2 жыл бұрын
It is a fact that God is only perfect. Please listen to wisdom of this historian. Unite with love with a basis of human values and not islam
Ironically, the late converts from Hinduism to Islam like Iqbal, Jinnah and Bhutto were responsible for the first partition of India based on the religion of the population, for the first time in Indian history.
Thanks for posting such an insightful interview. Prof Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed's talk is very unbiased. It was a pleasure watching this video.
Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed ji, you are wonderful. Today I learned a lot from you. I love history.
Candid, honest and convincing. Thank you Abbas Haider.
Good and logical analysis and research
I like your style of interviews….. excellent… keep up the good work ❤️
awesome video loaded with lots of information and hope. Thanks to abbas, and special thanks to ghalib kamal for introducing us to this channel. 🙏
Very much informative discussion. Look forward further discussion.
Dr Ishtiak Ahmed my sincere appreciation to u for such balanced views and narrating history with all its bumps, warts etc. The way u hv narrated it is just wonderful. Kudos to Haider too for the way he has conducted the interview.
Dr Ishtiaque is the only person who is not suffering from Stolkholm syndrome even though he lives in Stolkholm
Being keen and curious student of history and plotics I always enjoyed listening Dr Ishtiaq Ahmad....thank you.. during the conversation brief talk came of Hindu hardline or rightwing...I would like to share my experience...I m came from Catholic background but now admire and follow Sanatan dharma or Hindu way of life...I grew in Allahabad UP then Mumbai...sand lived near Muslim dominant area in Allahabad ... every Hindu festival we used to have Riot and curfew ...and even in between..I have seen my own eyes how Muslim religious leader from local mosque use to protect all the mischievous teenager from cops and traffic police when they get caught wrong doing. .. and argument use to be go catch big ppl..why poor ppl...and these kids use to always upto mischievous act... and point came when Hindu started reacting..
@gurdipsingh606
2 жыл бұрын
If you are so keen of history,please dont take a small sample like only one city. Consider all the riots between hindus and muslims in India after partitionon and then come up with the results and see who has suffered more in life and property
@ruebenkingi2432
2 жыл бұрын
@@gurdipsingh606 I have and doing it regularly. ..and still getting stronger in my view after every reserch of base....though current time it's lots of aggression coming from majority and that was bound to happen.
@rubina1868
2 жыл бұрын
The entire of Manauri ( outside Allahabad) left to karachi but for 3 families.
@dennisthemenace4288
2 жыл бұрын
@@gurdipsingh606 i google major hindu-muslim riots post-independence and damn results are one sided. Even the delhi riot that was blamed on muslims. Just google official victim names by delhi police in delhi 2020 riots. I mean how can have more muslim dead bodies if they are the one who attacked first on an unprepared citizens.
@aamirsecond
Жыл бұрын
Its resultent behaviour of minority that is quickely to be judged and labelled uncivilised. But in contrast, in developed world, it is now rather treated as majority's responsibility to be blamed for themselves. Because numerically they use more resources for own betterment (education, economy, health etc.), and minority is left with systematic repression to be suffered. Under the circumstances their fear of loss turned them hyper reactionary especially in less developed world..
I'm lucky to have found this channel.
What an enlightening discussion! Pakistan should immediately stop conflict with India. India has moved on from pain of partition. We too want peaceful, happy & developed Pakistan. Best of luck! 💐❤
I just wanted to compliment Dr sahib for keeping the record straight.
Outstanding discussion. He is one of my favorites.
Very enlightening. Thanks to Dr. Ishtiaq for the education.
Thanks Dr Ahmed and Abbas for a free wheeling discussion
Hats off. Totally intellectually unbiased & honest. Indian journalism is unfortunately not that honest.
The majestic narration of unvarnished truth from the mouth of an unbiased humanist without any frontiers ... I could safely say that I rode through a tangible history highway ...
عباس حیدر صاحب ھم سب آپ کے لیے دعا گو ہیں کہ اس مسخ شدہ تاریخ کے بیانیے کے ھوتے ھوئے آپ سچائی کے بیانیے کو لیکر ھم جیسے جوھلا کو حقائق بتانے نکلے ھیں اللہ تعالیٰ آپ کو ثابت قدم رکھے اور بےشمار کامیابیوں سے نوازے سچ بات کھنا افضل ترین عمل ہے خاص طور پر جھوٹ اور منافقت کے دور میں مالک کائنات آپ کا حامی و ناصر رھے
Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed is a true Punjabi - very open, and fearless.
@PS-ej2xn
2 жыл бұрын
How about Iqbal?
@rajeevverma1604
2 жыл бұрын
@@PS-ej2xn which Iqbal?
@PS-ej2xn
2 жыл бұрын
@@rajeevverma1604 Were there many famous Punjabi Iqbals?
@rajeevverma1604
2 жыл бұрын
@@PS-ej2xn I know of 100’s of iqbals. At least 10’s of them live in NYC.
@PS-ej2xn
2 жыл бұрын
@@rajeevverma1604 Aren't you more qualified to discuss the history and politics of NYC than of India Pak?
No less than a blessing to know truth in our Life. Thanks Prof and Abbas
Thanks for presenting an excellent account of our history; camouflaged and twisted for all the decades.
Professor Sahib top most intellectual, historian and political personality. There is so much to learn from him.
It is the superiority complex of the ex ruling Ashraf or elite, who feared being out of power under the Hindus. The wrong idea that "Hindus and Muslims cannot live together, meant that Muslims cannot be ruled by Hindus. Muslims (meaning elite Muslims) could always rule India for 800 years if they were in power and had the freedom to eliminate Hindus wherever required. Do Qaumi nazariya only meant Muslims cannot live under Hindu rulers.
Do Muslims know that Jinnah was a Khoja Muslim and his ancestors were Hindus who became followers of Aga Khan?
Super . Dr. Istiaq Ahmed. Long live. You are an asset of this beautiful region
As Bangladeshis we are happy that we kicked out Pakistan from our country. Thank god !
@vineetsinghgusain701
2 жыл бұрын
@@AbbasHaidar what you abbas read his comments
@sarakumari3179
2 жыл бұрын
@Ziaul but what Pakistan was doing with you, ur doing same with Hindus, same on you people
Excellent conversation. Thanks for bringing this out.
This is so so amazing. thank God I found this. enlighten by this talk. thanks for doing this.
Jinnah was from a family which converted to Islam only three generations back. Jinnah's family was a lohana (a trading community) in Hindu ,gujarati family. Their ancestoral home is still in Gonadal ,Rajkot ,Gujarat.
My father (1905-1987) was a matriculate. He always asserted that Pakistan was created by the British as a buffer state. Dr Ilahi Baksh got himself alloted a huge property on Lawerence road to establish a hospital where poor will get free treatment. This never happened. According to his will he was buried in that estate to maintain family’s possession. It took govt almost 50 years of litigation to recover the property. I
Truth will prevail. I hope Pakistani will learn a lot from this on their distorted history.
Great conversation of two intellectuals! Factual and Truth
Our parents also had to run for life from Pakistan.
@RP027
2 жыл бұрын
Jinnah literally created Pakistan out of thin air. He made sure Muslim have a safe Islamic country for themselves. Meanwhile what did Gandhi achieved? Hindus are still struggling in India? Do Hindus have a safe Hindu country for themselves? Right now, Muslim have 2 countries, Pakistan, Bangladesh. Hindus have no State in the world and Hindu population is declining. Who is loosing?
I salute to Prof. Ahmed for being truthful and courageous in bringing facts about partition of India and correcting history of Pakistan, which will help Pakistan to be a peaceful and better nation.
@hassanmurtazasandhu6225
2 жыл бұрын
i really appreciate your opinion
What a great discussion
Good to watch as both of them have read a lot and are knowledgeable. Very good to listen and learn
@Abbas Haider I just finished the whole interview....I am very, very, very pleasantly surprised at such a wonderful thought process of such a great scholar Professor Ishtiaq Ahmed. Brilliantly done!!! May I suggest that you interview him about his books in the next series, like a book review kind of thing and ask him questions about why he wrote such and such thing and try to figure out what happened in the past? Do think about it and please do let me know thank you 😊
@mulhidal-eslam
2 жыл бұрын
@@AbbasHaidar geetay raho kush raho 😊
I really wish you were an indian. Your knowledge and oratory is illuminating
I am eagerly waiting for ur book and definitely I am going to read it.
Dr. Istiphaq Ahmad is great historian . salute to u sir from India. Very knowledgeable person always talking about true history.
Thanks for this, it was very informative and engaging the way Dr. Ishtiaq Sir spoke.
Dr. Ahmed is a wonderful historian.
In somequarters of India too self introspection is also going on in d intellectual field. Though it is very difficult to counter both Hindu & muslim fanatics ,I hope ultimately ,we will be successful in bringing peace -harmony -respecting one another cultures .
Thanks a lot for such well researched unbiased description of history.
Excellent & insightful conversation. Admire the Dr. Saheb 🙏🙏👍
Great! It is very nice to hear another point of view about our history from across the border. You are very right to say about respecting monorities, shias etc bur regretfully note that no words on ahammadiyas.
Dr. Ahmed is simply brilliant
@akaj188
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Jenab @@AbbasHaidar Sahib Adaab Thanks
پاکستان کا مستقبل: قوم سے ملّت وفاق سے یونین
Thought-provoking approach regarding the whole scenario that has happened in this part of the world. Just can't off your eyes from start to finish. Thanks 🙏
@nareshkatyal8677
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Ishitaq sir Aap ki bat Pakistani man Jaye tau Pakistan tarakki kar jae. Respect from India
I wish to thank both of you for this nice discussion and request Dr saheb for his books in Hindi .
Wonderful and valuable interview.
- that was a well invested 1 and a half hours of my time - very informative -a great interviewer and a very informative interviewee - am subscribing :)
Very informative and genuine discussion... enjoyed it...we need educated people....
Excellent subject and a very knowledgeable and dispassionate view from the historian without any biases. Great work and research put in to channelizing the conduct of the interview by the host too 👍👍
Eye opener. Thanks a lot. Outstanding stream. Eagerly waiting next video. I salute prof. Ahmad for speaking truth.
Being an Indian Muslim, it becomes imperative to understand the realities, dimensions and political discourses of Pakistan movement to renounce the hindutva agenda of BJP. Both Pakistan movement & hindutva agenda has lot in similar.
@ww9904
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🃏 Urdu me likh lo,aap kuchh samjha hi nahi sunkar bhi ... Dusri baar sun lo......
@dennisthemenace4288
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Yep, the hindu equivalent (i.e hindutva) wanted the same for india, a country based on religious lines but congress (thankfully) aimed for secularism. Unlike rss who rejected tricolor for years.
@Striker-jg9kv
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@@dennisthemenace4288 Allah ki gaand me lulli aur anguthachaap jahil gando Nabi laudakhor tattikhor Muhammad ki Tarah har rape jihad ki najayaz paidaish ganduudin namazi aashiq gay rasool Muslim hijdo ki Islamist gaandallah me lulla 😂😂😂😂
Most amazing lecture on freedom struggle that I ever listen . Thanks a lot abbas bhai jann
Abbas bhai looks so simple but is an excellent journalist.
Partition proved a blessing for Hindues because by now United India would have become Muslim majority country.
Such a superb conversation. Learnt a lot. Thank you.
15 mins into the video, Mind = Blown
Excellent content. The questions were very mature and had depth. Pakistan people should think from view point of Indians sometimes too. Most of the Indian population don't want any fight with Pak. We are forward looking people who want the country to achieve new highs in science technology and in every field. Also we would like to see Pakistan progress as well because that would add to Indian progress as well. A progressive neighbor is always better than one who thinks of one as an enemy and creates problems.
Dr ishtiaq Ahmed a highly knowledgeable and logical historian, I salute him.
Jinnah was so right .... look at what's happening in kashmir and to the Muslims in India as a whole... I'm glad I'm born in a Islamic country and God creates those circumstances with me ....