The implication that Stolas does the excessive dirty talk because he thinks Blitz is into it is so funny to me

@ragnar3434

6 ай бұрын

I like to think it's also bc he's very literate and good with words

@ragnar3434

6 ай бұрын

It's only natural that love inspires him to poetry, and by love I mean dick and by poetry I mean being eloquent about dick

@gabrielegenota1480

6 ай бұрын

@@ragnar3434 he DEFINITELY reads erotica novels - and probably bases his "bed" personality on it.

@huntersmith1943

6 ай бұрын

@@gabrielegenota1480I would be surprised if this isn’t true

@Snesthekeleton

6 ай бұрын

@@gabrielegenota1480he really tries his best with the relationship with blitz

The backhand Stella attempts that Stolas catches. The fact he caught it without issue, to me, implies that he's used to her hitting him, and that makes the whole situation with Stolas telling her to leave his house and life so much more cathartic

@sarafontanini7051

6 ай бұрын

actully we've seen evidence of her being abusive way back in episode two she was physically throwing stuff at him becaus she was pissed he slept with an imp in their house again. Which yeah could be explained by her momentary rage, but it does suggest her anger issues as well as her being phyiscally abusive to him.

@hayacopter9309

6 ай бұрын

@@sarafontanini7051 Oh I know that. But imo physically striking someone is worse than just throwing their belongings at them (tho a case could be made throwing a servant imp would hold similar weight). I was just pointing out that him CATCHING her hand implied that he's used to her landing her hits, implying that he didn't fight back

@Brutalyte616

6 ай бұрын

To me it's always been a sign of a cold truth; Stella is violent and obsessed with prestige and politicking because she's WEAK and she knows it. Maybe she's above the common rabble of Hell what with her being a Goetia, but she's WEAKER than Stolas because he didn't show any fear at her striking him and caught her hand effortlessly, and Stolas himself is fairly weak, what with him only being a Prince of Hell and a mage like his father Paimon, which is why she threatens Stolas using her brother Andrealphus and by hiring Striker to go after him; she can't hurt Stolas herself, physically, emotionally, financially or politically, so she has to resort to having others attack Stolas on her behalf.

Fun Fact: Too much Sugar does cause a Horse's legs to stop functioning. Blitz and Stolas bonded over Niche Horse trivia

@Chara_Dreemurr1

4 ай бұрын

Wait what? *_is blitzø actually smort?_*

@joohoneybun

3 ай бұрын

​​@@Chara_Dreemurr1 just crazy obsessed with horses lol you can be a bit dumb but still be very knowledgeable on a hyperfixation haha (speaking from experience 🤣). although he's gotta be a bit smart to be able to run a functioning business right lol

@Reineerus_The_Rat

3 ай бұрын

​@@Chara_Dreemurr1Street smart, not Book smart. Except Horses

One takeaway I got from here is confirmation that Stolas isn't oblivious; he actively gives the benefit of the doubt to people who don't really seem to deserve it. And most of the time, that's worked out for him.

21:21 I love the subtle detail of Stolas and Blitz walking down the hallway, how the pictures of Stolas alone or with Stella have dark an muted colors, and the painting of Stolas and Octavia is colorful and shiny, pointing out that she is the only good thing in his life until he met Blitz again.

Fun fact: Blitz and Stella's VA's are irl freinds and have worked on KZread videos together for Blitz's VA's (Brandon Rogers) Channel.

Ngl having Jafar voice Paimon (Stolas Dad) is so fucking fitting lmao

@robbieking4070

6 ай бұрын

He also voices Blitzo’s dad, Cash, as well.

@TheFrugalVideoGamer

6 ай бұрын

I just laugh at the fact that we get to hear Jafar say "Now, cease that bitch crying."

@marksalmoneussorcerersupreme

6 ай бұрын

I know it was so awesome. He's my favorite VA.

28:15 you’ve gotta feel for Stolas when you get to this point. Yes, it was fucked up that he cheated on Stella with Blitzø. But Stella was never in love with Stolas, and she talked bad about him for years. Keep in mind too, the first flashback happened when Blitzø and Stolas were only 10. If we’re right to assume Stolas is about 35 now, then he was forced into an arranged marriage with Stella right at 18, and forced to become a parent immediately then too, for Octavia to now be 17. I forget if we were told otherwise what Stolas’s age is, but the way I look at it, assuming it is 35, he never got to discover who he was or whom he liked. He was engaged to Stella when they were still kids, and never got to grow up with Blitzø, or anyone else for that matter. He’s been miserable for nearly 3 decades, nearly 2 with Stella, and she’s made it more than clear she only cared about the prospect of money to be with him. But the reason he stuck around and endured that treatment was just for Octavia to have some semblance of a normal life. And then you go back to S1E2 at Loo-Loo Land, and see why Stolas couldn’t give Octavia a straightforward answer. How do you tell your kid, “I was forced into a relationship with your mom, we were never in love and we resent each other,”? He tried to say, “We weren’t in LOVE,” but was only able to get out the first 3 words. He’s been fighting a battle to deal with Stella, and sacrificed much of the happiness he wanted, for his daughter’s own happiness.

The way this ep pissed off Stella stans so much lmao. The character they'd convinced themselves was a yass queen girlboss turned out to be a deliberately malicious and cruel abuser, and they literally sent Vivziepop hate over it because she wasn't like the version of her they'd made up for their fanfictions.

@sundalosketch4769

4 ай бұрын

Its like those people didnt read into the attempted confessions of Stolas during Episode 2 of season 1. Saying things like "She was always-" and "We were never in-"; it gives a big impression for us to fill in the blanks that things weren't as cut and dry as 'oh she's just being stuff-throwy violent-loud bc he cheated, so she's in the right.'

I love how the pilot went from Stolas being the one in power to the main series of Blitzo being the one in control. It made me so empathetic to Stolas. He’s just a little bean.

I love all the explanations we get in this episode. We learn really important stuff like the truth of Stolas and Stella's marriage and how Stolas and Blitzø met, as well as smaller things like why Stolas loves the circus and why Blitzø keeps buying those horse figurines.

@undertakernumberone1

6 ай бұрын

honestly? I dislike most of hte reveals from the episode. "Look. Everybody has an abusive father!" "Hey? Remember that deep scene in Loo Loo Land, where Stolas is struggling for words, knowing he'S done wrong and he can't just throw Stella under the bus? Yeah, lol. Stella'S actually been getting off on abusing him since forever!" "Oh, Stolas has loved Bltizo since he was a kid, ain't that sweet?" For me, it took a lot of potential complexity and story depth out.

@bouboulroz

6 ай бұрын

​@@undertakernumberone1 Stella called a hit on her husband right in front of him without batting an eye in season 1. Her being cruel and uncaring is nothing new.

@TheJeSTeR7530

6 ай бұрын

@@undertakernumberone1 I do not agree with that. Stolas still has complicated feelings regarding his relationship with Stella. Regardless of what Stella was actually like, in Loo Loo Land we did learn that Stolas was not happy in his current relationship, which is why he was pursuing Blitzo. Stella turning out to be an absusive bitch doesn't inherently change that scene because for Stolas, that struggle for words was more about trying to explain his relationship with Stella without putting any burdens on his daughter. It still remains complex, regardless of what Stella was like... If Stella was a much nicer person it would have made his feelings regarding the relationship with Blitzo more complicated, that i would agree with, but it would not have inherentley changed anything regarding the scene we got in Loo Loo Land, as that scene already made it clear that he did not love Stella. His relationship with Stella mostly revolved around his position as a member of the Ars Goetia and then later on to give Octavia a (in his mind) normal childhood, in spite of how cruel Stella was to him. I think that is plenty complex, he let himself be a victim, not speaking up for himself because he loved his daughter too much. It is a different angle, but it is still very complex if you ask me.

@undertakernumberone1

6 ай бұрын

@@bouboulroz THere is a difference between "I love tormenting you!" (and this episode implies it being from day 1, basically) and her being at a point of utterly excessive, irrational overreaction (which, at that point, in my least liked episode, could'Ve actually been more of an attempt at intimidation to get him to behave more appropriate to his position. Stolas was, as you point out, right in front of her and didn't care) to what Stolas had been doing. Loo Loo Land: "You need to understand... your mother and I... I just-... I felt-... She's always been... I haven't been- Ha-... We weren't in... I'm sorry, I- I- I don't have the words." Stolas clearly also saw himself at fault. This episode however? "STolas has been an innocent owl his entire life and everything's Stella's fault!

@undertakernumberone1

6 ай бұрын

@@TheJeSTeR7530 the point wasn't about him loving her. Just about how, in effect, this episode goes "Stolas never did anything wrong, he is an innocent owl, and everything bad is Stella's fault because she is an evil monster!" Them not having a good relationship would've been fine for me. Them not being in love would've been fine for me. Stolas craving love and then not caring, or rather noticing, how this will reflect on his family, maybe still hurt Stella despite them not loving each other, and Stella ending up utterly overreacting, I just htink would have made for a more interesting, more complex plot.

Still love how a lot of reactors just turn into absolute mush at just listening to the kids playing for their lines. They did so good

Prepare for laughs, crying, and pain. This season goes hard

@nick3xtremegaming212

6 ай бұрын

and worst of all, its only halfway through. we are only half way there, and are definitely living on prayers.

@redictor

6 ай бұрын

@@nick3xtremegaming212 but those prayers only go to heaven!

What I really love is when Cash Buckzo (The dad) is trying to convince Blitzo to go the thing that convinces Blitzo is his helping his mom. Really emphasis how much he cares about her even as a baby he really only thought about her.

29:32 recall from S1E5, that Stella is the one who hired Striker to assassinate Stolas, so while she is talking shit, she does have something to back it up, since she has a bounty on his head.

The legless balloon horse lil Blitz made kinda foreshadows how Fizz lost his legs in the future and were replaced with robotic ones.

I personally like the original way when this chapter was immediately after their date cause that way we saw both Blitzø's breakdown at the end of it and then Stolas' flashback but that's just me, I freaking love this show

Something I found neat- Stoles dad is clearly full of problems. BUT when he sees Stolas is actually upset, he tries to think of a solution. It’s a bad one but he’s attentive enough to notice - and at least attend through a mirror. And when that doesn’t work he notices Stolas interest in Blitz and immediately goes to it for help. Like I think he WANTS to be attentive he just has no idea how. Just seemed neat

@overdramaticgoddess9696

Ай бұрын

He did say he was so good at daddying. I think he wants to be a great father and agree that he doesn’t know how to

Fun fact: paimon (Stolas dad) is more obedient to Lucifer than other kings are. ( although it’s still unknown if Stolas’ family is really close to Charlie’s family)

That page that stolas was looking at in the book was a asmodeus crystal that some of them demons use to go to earth. I think stolas was looking at it because he wants to give it to blitzø so that blitzø wouldn’t have to see or talk to stolas anymore🙁🙁

I didn't really do this for season 1 but eh why not. Some trivia. ( I'm sure folks in the chat already shared this fact ) Paimon and Cash Buckso ( yes that is Blitz's dad's name, so Blitz's full name would be Blitzo Buckzo ) are voiced by the same guy. Jonathan Freeman. If he sounds familiar. He's the voice actor for Jafar. The last 2 episodes had Disney references actually. Ozzie doing that little spin before plopping down onto his elbows to talk to Moxxie is a Genie reference. At one point Queen Bee does something in the air very similar to a shot in The Little Mermaid. Where all the fish were making her hair go up. Oh and those little dogs you see child Stella strangling are called Quieves. You say it like Queef

@rosenrot234

6 ай бұрын

Yup. It was a cute reference. @@Ashurman666

Something that's really sad is this reveals that Stolas' excessive dirty talk is because of this moment which in itself isn't sad. but what makes it sad is it's the cause for Blitz's misunderstanding of the relationship and the s1 finale.

Baby Stolas is everything! 🥰

If you weren’t feeling any sympathy for Solas till now, this episode will change that

@TomSketchit

6 ай бұрын

I still have trouble understanding how this episode (and this season as a whole) have turned some people who enjoyed the first season off of it.

@lostsoul7345

6 ай бұрын

most likely due to the lack of funny assassination shenanigans. @@TomSketchit

@user-sw6ys9fy9g

6 ай бұрын

I want her to react to epithet erased

@joelsasmad

6 ай бұрын

​@@lostsoul7345Nah. It clarified a lot of things that were assumptions and theories before to create a less twisted situation than people thought and kinda wanted. A lot of people thought based on season 1 that Stolas was more to blame in his marriage falling apart and his wife's hatred was more justified and potentially sympathetic of a character. Also that Ozzie was calling out how his relationship with Blitz was initially born out of purely self destructive lust even if he wants more now. The idea that these are likable and sympathetic characters but ones who ultimately are bad people who literally are in hell. But no, with this it is clarified that Stolas has always had pure love for Blitz that the imp in question has just been blinding himself to, Stella is just a villain who never had any affection for Stolas or cared about their family, and the despite the adultery Stolas is entirely the victim of this situation. It is a lot more straightforward and simple than a lot of fans wanted.

@TomSketchit

6 ай бұрын

@@joelsasmad I dunno, I still feel like there's nuance in Stolas and Blitz's dynamic from this, with Stolas being a blind hopeless romantic who thinks he's been swept off his feet while Blitz started this as a con even if on some level he does want it to be more. As for Stella, while I can understand the desire for more nuance with her... honestly, this is exactly how I thought she was from her first appearance, and personally I find her being this egotistical rich bitch just kind of fun.

I will say, it was this episode that eventually forced the team to removed Helluva Boss pilot as cannon and from the channel completely. Why? Because people pointed out how cringe and fanfics like it was for Stolas to meet Blitzo ONCE as a kid and than become that obsessed to him as "his only friend". Like Blitzo clearly doesn't remember much about that time and was trying to steal without being seen. So in a way, it went from "business one night stand that developed feels" to "children obsession where one manipulated the others feelings for him". And that IS pretty messed up

This girlie is going to be crying much more/in pain in future seasons.

Cash is such a great person! /s He sees Fizz as dollar signs(You see his eyebags?) and was willing to sell him out for the money. And he sees Blitzo as an in to steal. Lovely daddy! Stolas also has daddy issues. Daddy issues for everyone! LOL^^ Also, I've been enjoying your reactions. Started watching cause of Helluva boss, but have been checking out some other content,too. Hope you have a great weekend. Oh, and Happy New Year! PS: After watching to the end, I know some in chat were telling you to check out the new Stoals MV. I would maybe wait till you finish through at least S2 episode 6. It may hit even harder if you do. But, of course you can still watch it whenever. It is a good one^^

Anyone notice that Paimon laughed and clapped just like Stolas did in S1E2 when he took Octavia to the LooLoo Land? Anyone notice that at one point we saw an imp with male style horns wearing a dress on the high wire (3:39)? Fan theory is this is Blitz's twin sister (horns are the same shape)

25:17 Stolas sounding almost in tears of joy here is heartwrenching

A fan fact that not many people notice. When Blitz was brought to Stolas, he immediately took him to his bedroom. Pretty illogical behavior, but if you think about it, most likely lonely Stolas was reading a lot and at some point the usual books ran out and he had to switch to erotic novels, and a lover who sneaks into the bedroom under the cover of night is one of the popular tropes in such novels.

@sarafontanini7051

6 ай бұрын

plus he straght up says he assumes blitzo was there to fuck him likely cause of those books and jsut generally building up that one imp he saw once on a pedastal in his mind

The people in chat pushing "Look my way" should remember that takes place after S2E7 not this episode, so they need to chill. Watch in release order from here on.

This episode made Stolas my favourite character. All the hell he went through to actually make it worth with Stella and she didn't even care. If anything, Stella is the traitor. And I really hope Stolas and Blitzø get together and make Loona and Via be sisters.

I'm Baffled that they got not only Genie's Actor from The Aladdin Musical but Now Jafar's Voice Actor, wild

Jonathan Freeman the voice actor of Jafar from Aladdin (the animated movie), voiced Cash Buckzo (Blitz's dad) and Paimon (Stolas' dad). This is why Jafar was never allowed to have kids!

oh he did initially come for the book... then he came again, and again, and again. XD

OMG Helluva Boss spin-off idea #1: Fizz n' Blitz. Just the two little tykes screwin' around. I'd watch it. 🤣🤣Alicia really said "SHAKE ASS FOR YOUR GODS, SO THEY DON'T EAT US!"

"oOH THE POORS! THEY REEK OF AXE BODY SPRAY!"

As I’ve said, in a few comments before. After watching this episode, if you look The conversation he has with Octavia in Loo loo land suddenly you understand so much more about what he was trying to tell her, but he just couldn’t say it. (it might be more of head Canon reaching, but I think he’s never told her because he doesn’t want her to think that she was ever a burden to him.)

@lonesavior

6 ай бұрын

Honestly, I wonder how Octavia didn't see it coming. Stella wasn't exactly being subtle. She put up a big banner that said "Still Not Divorced" for the anniversary.

@Nazo-kage

6 ай бұрын

@@lonesavior that’s because Octavia was a teenager, by the sound of things stole us, tried very hard to hide Stella‘s animosity. And it seems like he did too good a job. Because now at this point, Octavia doesn’t understand why her father would have an affair. And then cannot understand why he seems so happy to be divorcing Stella.

@lonesavior

6 ай бұрын

@@Nazo-kage From how Ozzie phrased it in his song, he didn't know about the marital problems either, despite being advertised in the paper.

@sarafontanini7051

6 ай бұрын

@@lonesavior it should also be noted that aside from what others sad about stolas actively hiding the animosity in the relationship, Octavia may have just not been aware cause some kids AREN'T aware of what's going on between their parents, hence the whole cliche of the crying child saying "is it becuase of me?" when told their parents are divorcing. Octavia just didn't notice cause she was a kid and thought her family was normal.

Paimon is one of best Ars goetia demons in real life demonology and one of my favorite ones like Valak.

I get to enjoy a helluva boss with Alicia and the community alongside my birthday cake. Hell-Fricken-YEAH!! Thank you!

When she said he'll pay for it she didn't mean making up stories, she was referencing Striker from S1E4 that she hired to kill Stolas.

Everytime brice sings as stolas something just clicks. Seriously I've never heard someone portray such sorrow in his speech before and its frickin beyond beautiful.

3:20 I feel attacked .-. lol, the owl said foul :3

SEASON 2 TIME LETS GO get ready for more emotion

Fun fact you can hear the theme of stolas song “owl in a cage” during his summoning on episode 6 season 1

If ya didn’t know Stolas has 72 siblings so yeah

Damn season 2 is aboutta go hard

Stolla’s was such a beautiful baby 🥰

Welcome to the emotional rollercoaster that is season 2. I have loved this season but started keeping a tissue nearby during episodes cause man do they touch on some heavy themes

When she started ranting about inflation and taxation. That was hot.

Stolas' father in this, Paimon, is one of the 9 Kings of Hell in the Ars Goetia, Since Asmodeus (or Ashmoday) is also one of these kings, it's likely that Viv isn't totally following the Ars Goetia in this context... But it does suggest Paimon is one of the upper echelons of Hell's nobility. Still, it's clear that he is an immensely powerful Demon Lord , which serves to help contextualise where Stolas sits in that hierarchy. If the Goetia Demons are mostly accurate to the Ars Goetia, that means Stolas would be only 2 places removed from the likes of Asmodeus, Satan, Mammon, Beelzebub, Leviathan, and Belphegor. In the Ars Goetia proper, Prince Stolas is a subordinate to King Paimon, though it doesn't really detail any sort of familial relationship. Paimon is also consistently described across various Demonology literature as a man of noble bearing riding a Dromedary (single humped Camel) and accompanied by a minstrel who plays loud music. So, nothing like Stolas, or this version of Paimon.

@LDIndustries

6 ай бұрын

I think the idea is that Paimon is also supposedly a shapeshifter. He's kind of a formless blob when we first see him but as Stolas gets closer he takes a form that resembles Stolas (and Stolas is relatively accurately portrayed in terms of visuals, being a long legged owl) and was probably the form he was in when Stolas was conceived.

You definitely need to save ”Just Look My Way” for last.

Rich Auntie. Cheese balls!!!!

If Stella is the ANTAGONIST, that makes Stolas the AGONIST; fitting!

5:25 Stolas: *says a horse fact* Me: “HA, NERD!”

“Owl in a cage” at least the instrumental version has appeared throughout season 1 whenever stoles was on screen. If you go back it’s even in episode 1 and I believe the pilot as well.

17:10 damn he really left her hanging there

Costs of everything have inflated by 100x but pay has increased by 25x

Blitzo’s father and Stolas’s father were voiced by the same guy who did Jafar in Disney Aladin.

I find it funny seeing the people in chat telling her to now watch the Stolas song Look My Way making me be like uh no that's many episodes ahead still before she reaches it.

Smolas!

I Love the heiluvat boss reactions

Both Cash and Paimon are voiced by Jonathan Freeman. So, voice acting wise, Jonathan sold his own son to himself

Your reactions have got to be my favorite for this show

I forgot to check Mamon’s VA (my bad), but so far we have Broadway Genie as Ozzy, Jafar as Paimon, Ke$ah as Beelzebub, i remember someone telling me we had a Broadway talent for Lucifer in Hazbin’s new teasers… i really wonder if every sin is voiced by some absolutely huge vocal performer?

Laminitis is actually the reason why a horse would be called Lame and sorta were the term Lame comes from.

Already binged and loving it 🎉🎉

So much tugging on the heart strings!

Its a really good moment for LOOK MY WAY!!!! The song stolas sings for blitz

The VA for Paimon who voiced Jafar is Jonathan Freeman.

As someone who uses Axe body spray, I have to say-... Yeah. yeah...

Unlike in the show, Paimon is usually depicted as a man riding a camel. While different works credit him with different titles, in the Ars Goetia (the demenology from real life which forms the basis for a lot the high ranking demons in this show), he is one of the nine kings of hell, the same rank Asmodeus holds, too. Though whether or not he's also on the same level as a Sin in this show remains to be seen. He is usually portrayed as being highly knowledgeable about the world. In some versions, he can even see the past and the future. Lastly, he is said to be quite loyal towards Lucifer.

@gokbay3057

6 ай бұрын

In fairness Paimon did change several shapes so maybe the Owl-like one we see in the episode is the one he has when he is with Stolas and other bird like Goeitia (then again it kinda seems like all of them are birds in Helluva Boss).

Season 2 let's go! Guys we're getting there

It was nice seeing them as kids.

Season 2 and the feels, lets go

4:24 i just realized... oh to be a child and get told 'you will be allowed to say Crap and you can do however many retakes as you like!'

16:38 Well Blitz sure work with a bunch of clowns

Wait till you get caught up after the Mammon episode, then watch ",Look My Way" that comes after that. You think Stolas Lament was sad? Gurl: BUCKLE UP

Pizza and a AliciaxDeath video reacting to Helluvaboss? Queue the "Perfection" meme

Idk how far you got with this marathon session, but I saw people in the chat talk about watching the Just Look My Way music video after this episode. The video takes place after season 2 episode 6 and was released after episode 7, so you would wanna wait to watch it, it's too early

Stolas' song in this episode is the best imo

If you like that song then you'll definitely love the look my way one that Bryce ended up doing❤❤

That moment when Stolas is finally speaking his mind is so kathartic.

Stolas has another song, Tears will be shed.

Fizzaroli doesn't like pirates because of the voice actor. Husk's voice actor voices the President from Rick and Morty, who scared Rick with pirates. If Fizzaroli and Husk meet, it will be a meta reference

@LovableLex

2 ай бұрын

Sadly idk if they ever will because Viv said that there will not be a cross episode

@kfphunter1315

2 ай бұрын

@@LovableLex we have Pentius in Hazbin. This can be partially considered

11:48 The Byakuya strategy.

For season 2 keep the captions on because some of the episodes have eactually working captions that are 100% accurate

Don’t watch “Look My Way” yet. There’s more context to gather before you see it. Catch up and then watch it if you haven’t already.

@gokbay3057

6 ай бұрын

Also watching it now would spoil a plot point explored in a later episode of Season 2. Spoilers: The fact that Asmodeus did give him the Asmodean Crystal. Since one episodes has him asking, at first being rejected then being accepted after Fizz returns to Ozzie. If she watched "Look My Way" first she would know from the start that he would be getting the crystal.

so some pople think this episode is a start of a decline, apparently they feel like this episode retcons stolas as a charactr and his relationships and think its bad. Personally, i disagree and will break down why i think that: -Stolas himself: people say Stolas got soften too much by this point, made out to be too good despite how he acted in earlier episodes and in general due to his status as demonic nobility. Peersonally, I ain't too bthered, Episode two already established that whiilehe can be flippant and classist somewhat he's not a terrible person and didn't do anything to dissuade the idea he's probably the more likableof hell's elite. And anything to suggest otherwise is in the pilot (which is questionably canon now) and episode 1 (where he was maing a deal with blitzo during a fight,which could be exaplined as both early installment weirdness and him not thinking blitzo was in trouble, not to mention the deal was actually in Blitzo's favour as he would get tohold the grimoire the majority of the time -Blitzo: some don't lie the childhood friend angle, but eprsonally i don't rea dit that way. STOLAS sees blitzo as a childhood friend, but Blitzo just saw Stolas as some random rich kid he stole from, he ever saw him as a friend despite that wholesome bonding scene. Plus it establishes how Blitzo knew about the book in the first place, as a lowly imp wouldnt have known about it just out of nowhere. -STELLA: a BIG thing people dislike about this is how it turns Stella in an abusive asshole and removes any guilt from Stolas with his infedelity, as well as makes stella jsut a one dimensional jerk. Personally, I think the story set up well in advance Stella being a cunt (between her shouting at Stolas and throwing stuff at him for 'sleeping with an imp' and it being implied she's more mad about how its affecting his image and not the fact he cheated on her, as well as stolas saying to Octavia "your mother has always...she and I have never..." which can now be seen as both him not being able to find the words but also beg unable to tell octavia how horrible her mother is) and while Stolas being vindicated in his cheaitng does take complexity from it I thin its fine enough and doesn't contradict anything. Also if Stella was meant to be sympathetic they wouldn't have shown her hiring a HITMAN to murder her ex-husband. I do agree the characters MAY have been changed over time, I jsut dont thin it started HERE and it certianly dosn't contradict earlieer characterisation and events, which is what a bad retcon wuld do. I also can't say DEFINITVELY if this was a retcon or not, I'm not one of the writers or staff i wouldn'tknow, I merely agree its POSSIBLE.

@KeeperOfUntoldDreams

6 ай бұрын

It baffles me how people said this "ruined" Stella when we literally knew next to nothing about her before this episode. All we knew definitively was that she and Stolas were married and she's Octavia's mother. She never sounds hurt about Stolas cheating on her, which adds weight to Stolas claiming they both know that she wasn't 'hurt" by his adultery, because she wasn't.

@vsGoliath96

5 ай бұрын

​@@KeeperOfUntoldDreamsI think the problem is that it "ruined" people's *ideas* for her character. There was a really interesting angle to explore here if she wasn't actually all that bad and was genuinely upset about Stolas's infidelity. Instead she's just a rather one dimensional abusive bitch. Not that that's inherently a bad thing for a character, just some people felt like there could have been more to her.

I question why some people empathize with Stella? They clearly see she was a sociopathic monster since childhood. Who cares if Stolas cheated on her?! If their marriage was a good one based on love and friendship, neither partner would have a reason to cheat on the other

3:37 stolas and his dad have the same laugh

Baby Stolas, Blitzy, and Fizzy 🥰

Thanks for the video

"Did you know that the 5 dollar foot-long is 7 dollars and 11 inches?"

Yessssss I was waiting for the next Helluva Boss reaction woooot

I don't know if you've already said anything about this but... When are you going to continue with the animations Warhammer 40k, was so fun All that.

She’s not spreading rumors about Stolas; she literally paid a guy to kill him.

OMG she has acknowledged the pilot!!!!

I know. If I was in that scene, I would say "Stella, the only reason you continue to exist is because the Fandom needs someone to hate

Blitz fr pulled a Dio Being the Poor Lowley IMP that he is going into a wealthy family strictly for the wealth and lying to the next heir about wanting to be friends. Thankfully Stolas didn't have a dog.