What I really hated about Pleasure Island is that instead of punishing children for being genuinely bad kids (smoking, drinking alcohol, destroying property) they're essentially punishing kids for average kid things like eating candies and drinking soda.

@tjenadonn6158

Жыл бұрын

Modern Disney is so sanitized and squeaky clean they can't even show protagonists behaving badly when it's crucial to the basic story structure. Can you imagine what a Disney adaptation of Lord of the Flies or A Clockwork Orange would look like?

@bestduelistever2374

Жыл бұрын

@@tjenadonn6158 I don’t even wanna think about that…

@nightmarefanatic1819

Жыл бұрын

@@tjenadonn6158 For real, how is the version made in 2022 MORE puritanical than the one in 1940?

@nuclearcatbaby1131

Жыл бұрын

Too much sugar is bad for you.

@BBWahoo

Жыл бұрын

I wanted to see them smoking weed and slamming heroin

The Conflicting Morals part made me realize this new trend in visual storytelling of stripping characters of their agency. They can't be flawed and have their bad behaviours punished, they have to be victimized in order to gain sympathy from the audience and potentialize the villain's threat.

@nuclearcatbaby1131

Жыл бұрын

Because if you ever said the N word in your life as a young kid you deserve to burn in Hell forever. Geez and I thought the original Pinocchio story was supposed to be a Calvinist fever dream.

@Cyfrik

Жыл бұрын

Almost sounds like an unofficial return of the Hayes Code.

@SlapstickGenius23

Жыл бұрын

The Hays Code is gone, but another code is in!

@tmlawson751

Жыл бұрын

@@SlapstickGenius23 some would call it a Woke Code, but honestly it is more of a Spineless Narcissist Code - where no one can take responsibility or agency for their own actions, let alone be allowed to make them in some cases, and the ego can do no wrong because they were a "Mary Sue that Everyone Loved and Respected From the Start For Almost No Reason"

@toongrowner1

Жыл бұрын

In this regard, this is something I really like about Lucky Luke. In the early days he was huge smoker, but at some point they had to remove the cigarette of course... BUT! Instead of pretenting like cigarettes don't exist, they actually made it part of his character. No matter if comic, tv show or movie, there a lot of moments where they refer to the time where he used to smoke, with Lucky often responding how difficult it was for him to quit. It addes so much personality to him.

My Dad was a huge fan of the original Pinocchio when he was young, he literally fell asleep in theaters when we watched the remake and when I woke him up and told him it was done he said: Good

@erintwomey3846

Жыл бұрын

LOL

@My20GUNS

Жыл бұрын

Let me know what he thinks of Del Toro's version. It's suprisingly dark and ballsy, I loved it.

@michaellarose4913

Жыл бұрын

@@My20GUNS That is really common with Disney live action films. And the 'live action film' that is actually an animated film, The Lion King. As well as a lack of understanding of several aspects of animation, which really help out anything involving animation, including CGI.

@KenLinx

Жыл бұрын

You shouldn’t have given Disney your money. Now they have more reason to ruin the classics.

@mr_flava

Жыл бұрын

Give us an update lol

Another thing I find annoying about the pleasure island scene is how Pinocchio is clearly not having fun and arguing with lampwick about how what he’s doing is bad. It makes way more sense in the original where he just goes along with whatever lampwick is doing. Pinocchio is literally like two days old. He doesn’t have a sense of morality yet, that’s why he needs jiminy. It doesn’t make sense for him to be such a goody two-shoes if he’s never been taught the difference between right and wrong.

@mrfrog0913

9 ай бұрын

I think Disney's idea here is "wE can't HaVe thE protaGONisT aCt bad bEcaus3 chIlDrEN arE clEarLY gOIng to CopY LitERAly eVerTHIng They sEe oN Tv" like I saw swearing on TV when I was younger and I didn't swear.

@darianstarfrog

8 ай бұрын

​@@mrfrog0913they don't care about, clearly..

@SammEater

Ай бұрын

That also ruins the entire point of Jiminy as his "conscience", if Pinochio already knows what bad and what is good then Jiminy becomes useless.

This just makes me look forward to Del Toro's version of Pinocchio even more.

@williampulfer-melville8536

Жыл бұрын

Yeah especially because this is going to be a much darker film being set in Italy during the second World War and the Italians were part of the Nazi Empire in the Second World War

@FBJanimationstudios

Жыл бұрын

Me same too

@jacobwaters1147

Жыл бұрын

I know right?

@user-zp4ge3yp2o

Жыл бұрын

@@williampulfer-melville8536 Technically Italy was part of the Axis Powers with Nazi Germany and the Japanese Empire, so allied with the nazis but controlled by their own fascist government.

@reneemachuca3026

Жыл бұрын

I like the book of life. so the same person making this movie, I am excited

The Disney that gave us this remake and the one who gave us the original feel like two completely different entities to me.

@litigioussociety4249

Жыл бұрын

Considering, none of the same people work there, it is a completely different company. Despite people's views of Michael Eisner in his later years with the company, he did manage to bring back Disney to something people loved after the decline it went through for fifteen to twenty years after Walt Disney died.

@joeberryman3563

Жыл бұрын

It used to be run by Mickey, now it's run by Mortimer.

@drago-maro

Жыл бұрын

previous one was managed by an artist that wanted to tell stories and actually cared about animation, current one is a business man whose sole goal in existence is to make as much money as possible regardless how , even if it means sucking the life off of classics

@BBWahoo

Жыл бұрын

@@joeberryman3563 HAAA CHA CHA, OY VEY

@barneyerror4561

Жыл бұрын

@@BBWahoo 😂 I love that Mortimer. These are hands down, the best comments in the section. And I loved house of mouse!

19:53 Moral is that it's ok to lie just so long as you get what you want. That's basically Disneys core philosophy (and other corporations). Lie, cheat and steal as long as you turn a profit.

@Attmay

Жыл бұрын

Disney has lied about so many things that they undermined the morals of the original.

@mister54336.

7 ай бұрын

Viva la Raza by Eddie Guerrero of WWE

The fox is the best thing about the move imo. It's like proof of concept how The Lion King would have worked with realistic but more expressive looking animals.

@TheBelrick

Жыл бұрын

I'm an easy going fellow. I see Nigerians cast in european roles and characters. I continue on with life knowing that such turds really only exist if we will them to.

@_Obey_

Жыл бұрын

I love the fox honestly. He looks so cool.

@Schnipps

Жыл бұрын

Same, I loved him. He was the closest to the original for me, and his voice matched and he looked fantastic. It's like they used all the budget on him then forgot they needed to do the other characters.

@marmalade8915

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@midnights2631

Жыл бұрын

He looks amazing

"Don't make him cry. It only draws more attention to his shit face." Is honestly my favorite line yet. Had me laughing way to hard.

@moonlightwarriorgaming743

Жыл бұрын

I had to pause the video for a laughing fit.

@Marvellite

Жыл бұрын

Too lol 😆

@nuckygulliver9607

Жыл бұрын

@some people deserve to be humbled 4 good there's a visual aesthetic reason why she's blonde too. It's not racist to say it looks best when she's blonde. it's a visual aesthetic

@amergingiles

Жыл бұрын

@some people deserve to be humbled 4 good Except they can, they will, and you aren't going to do anything about it.

@realswobby

Жыл бұрын

@some people deserve to be humbled 4 good Imagine all races now demanding a representation in every single character ever made, instead of simply making new ones...

Here's the thing: if Pinocchio has such a firm moral compass already, then why on earth does Jiminy need to exist? He essentially does nothing now, except for narration purposes.

@Attmay

Жыл бұрын

“Because the movie has to happen.” -Ryan George

@drzerogi

Жыл бұрын

Yep. It's clear that the makers of this film didn't understand the themes and meaning behind the origonal.

@SaintJimmy379

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, smash him with a mallet like the real original

@alphinmesa9945

Жыл бұрын

This whole movie does nothing except waste your time and steal your money

@alphinmesa9945

Жыл бұрын

@drzerogi Really? the people at Disney didn't understand the story of Pinocchio? They knew!! they just wanted to change things because they can!

I always thought that the Blue Fairy helped Pinnochio was due to him genuinely looking for his father. Whereas, her stern "This is the last time I'm helping you" is usually said when you're constantly getting into trouble that you're taking part of. Shown as how she never shown up when the donkey transformation was happening. So, she did keep to her word in a sense. It's kinda like how one of your parents will be stern with you about an issue, then turn around and aid you when they notice you're genuinely trying.

@annieandelsieofarendelle3294

Жыл бұрын

Actually, I like this idea where the blue fairy comes back and Pinocchio pleads with her to tell her where his father is and she decides to help him since his wish comes from a selfless desire to help Gepetto

Literally the few positive story changes in this version of Pinocchio (him staying a puppet, Geppetto having lost his son and making a marionette to resemble him, etc etc) Guillermo Del Toro did the same but actually went into depth about it. Definitely watch his version, it’s totally unique and not just a soulless cash grab remake

@SpecialAgentMothman

Жыл бұрын

Like Geppetto’s throwaway line about wanting Pinocchio to be like someone else is LITERALLY one of the main plot points of Guillermo’s film. It tells a more interesting story with a much better moral

@romanec.c.petiot9876

Жыл бұрын

The Guillermo Del Toro Pinocchio was great. The characters had depth and were well thought out, their motivation made sense. It was a beautiful retelling of the story. Pinocchio had so much chaotic good energy 😂

@sweetbunnybun

Жыл бұрын

Him staying a puppet had the whole be urself motto and its kinda souless

@horrorjunky4life50

Жыл бұрын

I did and apart from all the singing, was a far superior telling then this piece of crap.

@FurKid_the_Gg_roo_99

4 ай бұрын

Steve legit predicted the arc of Guillermo Del Toro's version of Geppetto at 24:15 to 24:38 fr 💀👍

I just can't get over how drastically different all the CGI characters are from each other. Did they not see the work each other did?

@gatex33d74

Жыл бұрын

knowing how disney and marvel have been managing cgi movies lately... yeah they probably never saw each other's work

@commanderpanda9356

Жыл бұрын

most likely outsourced to independent people, this happens a lot with games now especially (It's the reason Halo infinite is so broken). so yes, each artist most likely was given a concept and guidelines, but would have used their own resources (textures, ect..) to make each asset. This is how you get artistic inconsistency, since each artist has their own workflows and design choices. in fact, I would not be surprised if this is the reason why some characters are high detail, while others are not. most likely smaller assets (like the clocks) were outsourced to cheaper artists and hence look cheap.

@khalilreacts1166

Жыл бұрын

Omg and the key framing was horrible. Didnt even look like Pinocchio was being carried

@J.S.3259

Жыл бұрын

@@gatex33d74 multiple VFX houses worked on this

@gatex33d74

Жыл бұрын

@@J.S.3259 yeah thats what i said

The thumbnail for this being Pinocchio gleefully squatting over a massive pile of horseshit and happily inhaling it pretty much sums up the entire state of the Disney company at this point. Brilliant thumbnail.

@Attmay

Жыл бұрын

That’s what they want us to do. It’s the cinematic equivalent of “you vill eat ze bugs.”

@satireisnotdead5804

Жыл бұрын

The horse-turd represents any new product from Disney nowadays, Pinocchio sniffing it represents what few consumers they have left who will unquestioningly consume any crap they put out.

@ElZamo92

Жыл бұрын

Best scene in the movie honestly

@blackkitty420

Жыл бұрын

I think Disney buying out their competition and basically becoming a megacorp means they can churn out whatever movie they want and they don't need to even care about quality and it will still sell millions or even billions. I'm happy people are being more critical over their movies now. Maybe now Disney will start caring about the quality over the quantity of their movies.

@jaygooese4242

Жыл бұрын

This remake can go to hell

What i find funny Is that at 24:15 you practically described del toro's version of the Plot wich just goes to show that it was, in fact, a much better direction to take the story into

@a2c3b6

Жыл бұрын

I was looking for this comment!!!! I also find it weird that everything most critics complain about is the similarities of the 2 not working for Disney lol Examples: the monkey vs the puppeteer, the og son, staying a puppet, the speedboat joke, lying to escape. Might just be me tho…

@cranberrycracker6847

Жыл бұрын

Del Toro's version is just 👌

@JoeFanik

Жыл бұрын

That's why most of the live action Disney remakes suck: they just repeat the same story but are less meaningful due to being live action and bad cgi

26:32 Pinocchio’s name is actually a combination of the Italian words “Pino” (pine) and “Occhio” (eye), so it would literally mean “pine eye”.

@justkillingtime8622

Жыл бұрын

yeah, and Chris Pine is an actor. it was a pun using his name.

@blankblankness2971

Жыл бұрын

@@justkillingtime8622 Did you even see the timestamp I used? It's nowhere even near any reference to that pun.

@Hell-Awaits

Жыл бұрын

Nope. Means "Little Pine".

I just love how they animated Pinocchio next to a pile of horse dung and not think of the irony lol

@freedomofspeech2867

Жыл бұрын

Love? Well then they'll do it more.

@tmlawson751

Жыл бұрын

i think the cgi team knew lol sometimes subversion comes in malicious compliance

@joshuahall8176

Жыл бұрын

Trust me Disney was BLATANTLY telling the audience we can make you watch anything They knew exactly what they were doing.

@theprinceofawesomeness

Жыл бұрын

They ether were stupendusly ignorant or hyper aware, there is no inbetwen

@joshuahall8176

Жыл бұрын

@@theprinceofawesomeness I'm leaning towards them intentionally putting in the horse manure as their way of letting us know we can get you to watch anything at least once.

In the animated version, I always thought the Blue Fairy's line "Very well, but this is the last time I can help you" is when how some parents would hint to their misbehaving kids. It's like subtly saying "I helped you this time, but I can't always be here to save the day".

@Godpk11

Жыл бұрын

That's what I always thought as well. Just recently watched the animated movie again. I haven't seen the movie for over a decade but the lessons and musicals always stuck with me.

@cagneybillingsley2165

Жыл бұрын

the fairy in this version looks like a monster

@Tzedakah263

Жыл бұрын

I don't mind the race swapping, but the earpiece they gave her and weird finger-like wings are super distracting.

@alexG106

Жыл бұрын

@@Tzedakah263 I mind the race-swapping. I’d rather not have children’s fables be the next front in anti-whiteism. I’m mixed race (black+white and Hispanic) but let’s be real about this.

@fierysmile2929

Жыл бұрын

I'm black and I agree with you. Fuck blackwashing. If Disney wanted to prove they were at all interested in how they present diversity or be multicultural, they'd adapt stories from our respective cultures instead of let them be lost to time because turning a white character black is easier and keeps them in the headlines with backlash. This shit they're doing now? That's _actual_ racism. Sad part is, they were doing diversity and representation right in the 90's. What happened since? They got lazy and decided to go minimal effort for maximum profit and they're fucking it up badly. And 90% entertainment today decided to follow suit. It's riduculous.

i just love the old artstyle. you can pause nearly everywhere and it looks like a "wallpaper" all the little details and everything handcrafted.

Disney trying to reinvent Pinocchio Guillermo del Toro: hold my beer

@brunollamas1684

Жыл бұрын

More like: hold my rootbeer

The Monstro chase scene was the first one I saw, and it honestly was worse than anything I could have ever imagined. The original scene is a masterpiece of tension - as Steve said, the power imbalance is what really makes you worry for Pinocchio and his family, and how hard Pinocchio tries to save them despite the odds is a huge part of the movie's message about selflessness and courage. And then they go and turn it into "Pinocchio turns into an overboard engine to escape a kaiju masquerading as a whale". This movie is a testament to what Disney has become: a sterile, empty, heartless version of itself.

@tjenadonn6158

Жыл бұрын

Old Disney set the standard. New Disney just arranges clichés.

@freedomofspeech2867

Жыл бұрын

Only white people care about this, with few exception, that's why it worked in the 40's and only works on us now.

@VCV95

Жыл бұрын

@@tjenadonn6158 new Disney thinks clichés are tropes

@dudotolivier6363

Жыл бұрын

It's sure that Disney pass a mixed period currently, but the Remakes movies are a small part of all the productions of the society. What about Raya and the Last Dragon, Encanto and all the others recents animated movie he done ? And what about all the animated series for the small screen who are as important than the big movies themselves too ? And the live action movies who aren't remakes such Chip N Dale Rescue Ranger Live Action movie ? Honestly, you all forget about the general body of the company to focus only on a single limb of him. Disney is always as productive, fertile and hearthwarming than he always was, it's just that, like everybody on Earth, he do errors, even at repetition, on a precise thing. Thinking that the next case will be better than the previous one even if it's not always the case. Will all, us, do or have done that in our live as person. Plus, not all the Remakes are garbage. There a good bunch who are correct, very enjoyable and even ultra edited from the originals (Maleficient, Dumbo, Beauty and the Beast, for example).

@KingRidley

Жыл бұрын

@@dudotolivier6363 you know Disney the person is gone, right? You keep calling Disney a He, but it's a corporation. They're no single person making any decisions.

Pinocchio 1940: The scene with Lampwick turning into a donkey was made terrifying in order to effectively drive home the message to kids about how bad drugs and alcohol are. Pinocchio 2022: The scene with Lampwick turning into a donkey was censored and stripped of any terror or maturity because Disney thought children couldn't handle it.

@mrsfahrenheit

Жыл бұрын

true :/

@gattzflappa6306

Жыл бұрын

Kinda gives you a warm feeling about Disney purchasing the firefly/ Serenity IP don't it?

@JudgeNicodemus

Жыл бұрын

@@gattzflappa6306 wait wait wait wait WAIT!!! Please say sike right fucking now!!! God fucking damnit I don't wanna have one of my favourite shows get fucking butchered by Disney...

@hashrat

Жыл бұрын

The children who can't handle it are 30.

@thomasmurrell9832

Жыл бұрын

@@gattzflappa6306 wait, *WHAT???*

18:56 Thank you for replaying this scene like that, now I cannot unsee the fact they CGI'd the fluids in each of those cups, poorly.

what I really like about original Monstro is that it's drawn in the style of the background, but it's animated it makes Monstro appear larger and more "weighty"

In the Guillermo Del Toro version coming out, it is implied that Gepetto had a son who passed away and he made Pinocchio to cope with his loss, and now he hosted the spirit of his son. It works with the dark fairy tale and Del toro’s dark esthetic.

@VCV95

Жыл бұрын

Please let his version absolutely destroy this hollow cash grab... Disney is artistically done, and has been outside of some accidents here and there for a while.

@Prototype-357

Жыл бұрын

@@VCV95 They are both coming out to streaming sevices so the competition will primarily be on the critic and audiences review scores and on that end Disney already set the bar really low. Disney totally released this remake this year to try to take the wind out of Del Toro's sail, now when people search up Del Toro's version they'll see both their versions too. The whole thing gives me huge Alladin vs The Thief and the Cobbler vibes.

@laranovelletto8694

Жыл бұрын

And isnt the story happening during Mussolini's govertment? The wonderfull dark fantasy aspect with some facism and war drama on top of it, a classic Del Toro movie

@VCV95

Жыл бұрын

@@Prototype-357 omg totally. Cobbler and the thief is a wild movie with such a good story

@KaeMcSpadden

Жыл бұрын

@@laranovelletto8694 that is what I heard, that his version takes place during Fascist Italy.

"it wasnt a whale! it was just a sea monster!" what a line, truly a piece of writting, it sure was made by someone in time

@RazorO2Productions

Жыл бұрын

It's Monstro Time!

@alvianekka80

Жыл бұрын

Get back! I'm going to Monstroing

@vit968

Жыл бұрын

*Disney didn't want to acidentally promote "Kill the Whales" instead of "Save the Whales"*

@jessyclerouxbergeron3492

Жыл бұрын

somehow monstro returned

@Ihavethetouch

Жыл бұрын

I'm something of a Monstro myself

24:19 Holy shit a gold medal to you sir because what you just said there was an actual great plot device that happened in the BETTER rework of Pinocchio, the Del Toro Pinocchio. Fucking metal how you just called it like that LOL

As an American, I can honestly say my understanding of the word ‘bollocks’ was that it was just a funny British word people say when they’re funny British frustrated, and it never really occurred to me to inquire as to its actual meaning until recently. So that might have something to do with it…

I'm still shook by the quality of animation from the fox and his sidekick. It's like the only highlight of the film and it makes me wonder if the animator responsible for them has a vendetta against the Lion King CGI animation with how detailed he made these animals

@jiggycalzone8585

Жыл бұрын

King

@thetruestar6348

Жыл бұрын

The lighting in this movie is so weird

@Attmay

Жыл бұрын

Most computer generated bloat-a-thons are poorly lit and ugly like most American movies of the last 55 years.

@Yatukih_001

Жыл бұрын

It has nothing to do with any vendetta. The point is its all about agendas. If you do this or that which was not in the book the original Pinnochio films were based on then you are making a morally wrong decision.The idea is to brainwash the kids to conform to slave morality and inside - the box thinking. The Grand Unified Field Theory of physics suggests that to be able to solve a difficult problem, you have to think outside of any box. The creator of the original Pinnochio story wanted children to be free so they could go to school to learn to learn, not to be brainwashed. John Dewey wanted the same. A society where everyone has the opportunity to be educated.

@franticcat5121

Жыл бұрын

@@thetruestar6348 it really is. especially when the kids and pine oak were on that horse mobile thing

Here in the US we never use the term bollocks, it’s just seen as “one of those funny/weird English words” so it’s not really seen as a swear

@Kit_Bear

Жыл бұрын

Let's just say that if they knew about the use of the word and how strong it is they wouldn't have used it.

@ForeverLaxx

Жыл бұрын

@@Kit_Bear Disney being culturally insensitive and ignorant? Surely you jest, good sir.

@Phendranaguardian

Жыл бұрын

Indeed, and its a bit odd. Bollocks and Bellend are seen in the west as "silly British words" with zero implication of being curses. Meanwhile "Cunt" is right up there as one of the worst.

@seanofthedead3076

Жыл бұрын

its like the inverse of c*nt, where its like the most offensive you can say in america but in the UK its not seen nearly as bad

@hollandnovak9753

Жыл бұрын

Didn't even know it was a swear.

So mad how many of the things you mentioned that would have improved this film like, them deciding to keep Pinocchio a puppet or Geppetto resenting Pinocchio at first to give him more of a reason to leave and not attend school were done in Guillermo Del Toros Pinocchio! That whole production seemed to really get Pinocchio and the morals of the story. Amazing how two films about the same thing released in the same year can be so different! The Netflix version is so thoughtful and well done compared to the Disney money grab.

At least *one* Pinocchio movie nailed it this year. And you know which one.

@arshu_parshu1999

Жыл бұрын

@Mariah Sanzone that was last year I think he means Del Toros

@catnip5315

Жыл бұрын

@@arshu_parshu1999 check

@ascendedcat260

Жыл бұрын

​@Mariah Sanzone faaather when can i leave to be on my ownnn i have the whole wordussy

As a kid I interpreted the Blue Fairy's comment about the last time she could help him being more of a warning that this was his last chance and that after that she wouldn't be willing to fix all of his problems with magic. When she came to him as a dove to drop the note it wasn't so much as fixing everything for him as it was guiding him to make the right choice - it was kind of necessary to move the story forward by having somebody tell them what had happened to Gepetto. The Fairy could've gotten rid of his donkey parts and placed Gepetto on the doorstep but for obvious reasons didn't. Also, even though I can respect the new version taking a different tack with the real boy thing, but what I always got from the 1940 version is that the goal of being a real boy is just a metaphor - in terms of all of the things he does, mistakes me makes etc, Pinocchio always behaved as any child would do, and in a sense was always a real boy from the beginning. His literal transformation at the end is payoff for the audience since his acts of bravery and compassion 'completed' him even though the audience subconssciously knows that this human form was always who he was deep down. It's a similar thing in the Wizard of Oz where the heart, brain and courage etc weren't meant to be literal rewards, but a sly comment on how often what we percieve to be lacking in we already have.

@lunyxblair5186

Жыл бұрын

You beat me to it because I was thinking the same thing. Also I would have to disagree with the whole "in the original, he was a dumbass." Because to me at least, he was just misguided and didn't know. Hence why jimity was around to tell him what's right and what's wrong. Also pinocchio just came to life "child" and for him to become a true child ( a real boy ) he had to earn it by being a good child. I believe the blue fairy even states this. So by the time he gets caged up pinocchio basically fucked up and the blue fairy gave him a second chance to correct his actions. so by the time we get to pleasure Island; pinocchio gets a wake up call that he's about to fuck up again when all the children were becoming donkeys or become asses of themselves for misbehaving because donkeys are also called asses; so it's metaphor. That's when pinocchio gets his shit together and try to do the right thing and earns his reward.

@gretelcorrales1779

Жыл бұрын

I kinda hate when people call naive characters stupid, they have different definitions for a reason.

@lunyxblair5186

Жыл бұрын

@@gretelcorrales1779 I agree, I kinda think people have missed understood naive, dumb, or ignorance. This is just my understanding of the words. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Naive: just didn't know about something Dumb: does know it but doesn't quite comprehend it. This word kinda varies on the situation. Ignorance: does know about it but either choices to go against it or refuses to act about it.

@tobbs5410

Жыл бұрын

Jesus Christ, this comment below up overnight. 167 likes already? Thanks guys.

@minnion2871

Жыл бұрын

It could also be interpreted as her not actually helping him when she gives him the letter.... (She was helping the boys father instead, Pinniochio seeing this as aid was irrelevant to this.)

I personally interpret the Blue Fairy “not helping Pinocchio” in the original as in not helping get him out of trouble he blunders into without first consulting his conscience. When it finally dawned on him how badly he let himself get tricked by Honest John again on Pleasure Island, Pinocchio left the island of his own volition and made no more excuses for his behavior, and soon after wanted to make up for his mistakes by saving his father (which admittedly was also his fault). And so the Fairy threw him a bone by telling him about Monstro.

@minnion2871

Жыл бұрын

Alternatively maybe she didn't do that to help Pinochio, but rather his father.... (Sending him to help someone else might not count as her breaking her word to never help him out of trouble, as he wasn't in any actual trouble, his father was..... )

@AeridisArt

Жыл бұрын

It wasn't really helping Gepetto either, since she could've probably done it herself. She was simply informing Pinnochio of what happened, letting him make the choice for himself.

@girliboi

Жыл бұрын

yea, that was never a major plothole for me.. . i mean we all say lots of things (especially with little kids) so they're not RELYING on us to always be there to make it all better, but behind the scenes we all know she's in his corner and got his back..

@atsukana1704

Жыл бұрын

Even then in regards to the fairy in Stromboli’s cart, she could have fixed his nose and taught him the lesson, but then just not let him out saying he would have to figure a way out on his own, and by so saying imply there was a way to get out but he would have to do it. And honestly I am not a fan of the random dove bringing a note, all you need is some random townsperson to tell him that monstro may have gotten him as it is important that pinnochio is made aware of monstro to raise the stakes and force pinnochio to make a choice about saving Gepetto in the face of danger.

The really stupid thing about changing the beer to root beer and excluding the cigars for me is, with the original, I assumed that's how the kids got turned into donkeys. That there was some potion inside. That would explain why Pinocchio only got ears and a tail because he stopped drinking and smoking after witnessing the other boy start to change.

5:30 Now THAT's suitable line for this moment.

I can't unsee how Jiminy's wearing a mask like he's a Luchador. Honest John is the one thing that looks decent in CG design.

@williampulfer-melville8536

Жыл бұрын

Agreed plus I love how his cape in the remake is actually a curtain

@beastmaster0934

Жыл бұрын

Honest John was the only character in the remake that I actually liked.

@human3950

Жыл бұрын

you can tell honest john had the most time put into his model than any other cgi character.

Everyone: “So are you ever gonna do any hand drawn films again?” Disney: “No.” 🙂

@michaellarose4913

Жыл бұрын

I mean the last time they did one, it underperfomed at the box office. As a company more about business than anything else, that was probably a sign that hand drawn films just aren't profitable anymore to them. Plus anything 2d doesn't do well on the big screen here in the United States of America. Part of that has to do with the stigma that has developed around animated works here. Animation has been for a long time, viewed as something that only children can enjoy, and when Disney attempted 2d animation again back in 2009, it flopped due to that stigma. It also flopped due to the 3d and CGI craze, which sucked away a lot of the potential audience away from the film. Not to mention any attempts with 2d animation for a theatrical release have just flopped due to multiple factors, but the main one seems to be either lack of advertising or a lack of interest from the majority of US Citizens who don't have an interest in animation. Heck, there's a reason they advertised the lion king remake as live action when it was actually all CGI. Live-action mixed with CGI appeals to a larger audience than solely Animation alone.

@Attmay

Жыл бұрын

Disney: won’t you please come see our movies? Me: no.

@gman7497

Жыл бұрын

@@michaellarose4913 I think its generational to a degree. I definitely see it changing eventually with the booming popularity of anime and manga in the states and the success of adult oriented animation like Arcane and Invincible. Teens and young adults today will have a completely different perception of this stuff than previous generations

@Pie_Romancer

Жыл бұрын

@@michaellarose4913 are you talking about Treasure Planet? I believe another significant part of it's failure was because it was not properly advertised to get as many viewers as it could. As far as I know today, many people would not mind a 2D animation again or just something that isn't a remake. However most people I've talked to about it are like me, people born around 2004, where the economic problems at the time slowed things down so we would grow up watching some of the older stuff from the 90s and many old classic Disney works.

@vHindenburg

Жыл бұрын

Are ever goingto see a Disney movie again?

In the cartoon he was about the same size as the kids, but in this version he's extra tiny.. it's weird.

I didn’t bother even trying to watch this and don’t ever plan on it. I instead watched Guillermo Del Toro’s Pinocchio which was a masterpiece and a pleasure to watch.

The original original Pinocchio was batshit crazy. The murder of Jimmy the Cricket the attempted lynching of Pinocchio by the fox and the cat.

@williampulfer-melville8536

Жыл бұрын

And Pinocchio also turns into a donkey and is sold to a cruel Circus owner

@EkoBahamut

Жыл бұрын

@@williampulfer-melville8536 he breaks a leg and I think fish eat his "Donkey body" allowing him to return to "normal", at least in the book I read, might not have been the original though

@cheesemate9141

Жыл бұрын

There's a live action movie based on those dark moments just made 2 years ago. It's called Pinocchio 2019, directed by Matteo Garrone.

@Tomeroche

Жыл бұрын

@@cheesemate9141 Eh, I prefer the 1996 Adventures of Pinocchio which used Jim Henson animatronics.

@YummyCracker

Жыл бұрын

@Tara Allen “lynching” means the same thing as “hanging”

I actually laughed when Lampwick turned into a donkey in The Disney Remake of Pinnochio. Because he was simultaneously over the top and somehow casual about turning into a donkey at the same time It was actually FUCKING HILARIOUS

@SoggyHotDoggy

Жыл бұрын

Pretty wild considering that the scene in the original is…. Honestly kinda scary as a kid.

@doctordark3527

Жыл бұрын

Yea in the original is was crazy dark. The Italian remake kind of got it right

@raymondluna3187

Жыл бұрын

Why would you watch this trash remake you are part of the problem

@joshuahall8176

Жыл бұрын

@@raymondluna3187 The people who are THE REAL PROBLEM are the ones who not only watch these remakes but actually like them and rewatch them

@raymondluna3187

Жыл бұрын

@@joshuahall8176 well them as well very true

25:27 I remember a version of the book where Pinocchio gets Geppetto arrested for causing a ruckus. Pinocchio accidentally gets his feet burnt off and while Geppetto was still mad at him, they did reconcile by carving out new feet for him.

And once again Steve, You've hit the nail square on the head with this one! Not a single thing missed or glossed over. Brilliant review. The original Disney Animation from 1940 is an absolute favorite of Mine and will forever hold a very special place in My heart.

Maybe the Monstro design change was because they couldn't copywrite a normal whale. They're ultra controlling like that.

@ForeverLaxx

Жыл бұрын

That always made me laugh about Disney. They got big by taking public domain stories that anyone can use at any time and try to find ways to change it superficially in order to have ammo for copyright infringement claims if someone does anything remotely similar. It's been that way from the start.

@_V.Va_

Жыл бұрын

Make it unique enough to sell merchandise based off it.

@nuclearcatbaby1131

Жыл бұрын

Just like how Pfizer couldn’t patent a traditional COVID vaccine so they made an mRNA one.

Thank you Steve for calling out Disneys fake love for diversity.

@canggubliss3258

Жыл бұрын

don't forget mermaid live action movie

@re1010

Жыл бұрын

@@canggubliss3258 that was the complaint. Maybe bother to watch the video.

@jessiang9708

Жыл бұрын

@@Steven9567 lol no

@RazorO2Productions

Жыл бұрын

@@jessiang9708 lol yes

@silverish9081

Жыл бұрын

I actually really like Blue Fairy design here, such a shame the whole thing is just a soulless cashgrab

Your comments on the botched ending are so funny in light of Del Toro’s version

Del Toros Pinnochio was the retelling we deserved and such an incredible watch that achieved wonderful artistic feets and did brilliant and thought provoking things with the narrative to change the original story

The CGi "root beer" is funny. The kid just gulps it in one go and it just disappears. Doesn't even spill a drop LOL

@ntfoperative9432

Жыл бұрын

They're an experienced "drinker"

@MojiBeau

Жыл бұрын

That and there’s so clearly zero weight in his hands. Why did they have to cgi the mug? So weird

@ketaminepoptarts

Жыл бұрын

movies rely so much on cgi that apparently its too hard to use a real glass with dyed water or something inside

@ntfoperative9432

Жыл бұрын

@@ketaminepoptarts the thing is, CGI is amazing, when used properly. CGI should be used as a tool, to do things you could never do in real life. These days most studios use it as a shortcut, to do things that easily could have been done with physical props

@thejaded

Жыл бұрын

That's how a root beer works 🧐

I have a few things to point out why the 1940's is far better at telling it's story than the remake. When the audience first hears about Pleasure island, it's not when Pinocchio hears it, it's in a meeting in a tavern with Honest John and the Coachman. The way Honest John reacts in fear at the thought of pleasure island sets the audience up to know something is wrong about that place. Because it was discussed between the three of them in a shady tavern, it's implied that only these three know the true nature of the island. So when you see Pinocchio getting tricked into going to pleasure island, it's because John is getting paid to round of kids. The audience then finds out WHAT exactly is wrong with pleasure island when Jiminy Cricket finds out the kids are turning into donkies and runs off to save Pinocchio before it's too late. THIS SETS UP THE URGENCY OF THE NEXT SCENE which is when Lampwick transforms. THIS IS WHY THE SCENE IS SO TERRIFYING. The audience has been prepped to experience this trama. In the remake, if an audience member has never seen the original. The donkey transformation comes out of the blue. Sure Jiminy Cricket sees the donkys being carted away, but never discovers why there are so many donkies. The only reason the audience thinks pleasure island is bad is because Gepedo finds out Pinocchio went to pleasure island and is like "OH NO I HAVE TO GET HIM BACK!" This again implies that the LOCALS KNOW ABOUT PLEASURE ISLAND. AND THEY DO NOTHING TO STOP THE COACHMAN ROUNDING THEM UP.

@tobbs5410

Жыл бұрын

Lampwick's hyperventilating transitioning into frantic donkey brays as he completely loses it is genuinely one of those most distressing things I've ever seen. While I kinda wish they had kept the scene where he helps Pinocchio escape from the island I think it's genuinely more terrifying that he's just left to his fate and him having a panic attack is the last we ever see of him.

@kittyclaws1219

Жыл бұрын

THIS!! You made exquisitely right points in your explanation! I remember being absolutely horrified when watching the original scene, I actually bursted into tears because I was so scared. The remake on the other hand..... I almost laughed out loud when Lampwick transformed, first of all because there was no real reason for him to change, since he was only drinking "RoOt BeEr" instead of actual alcohol and smoking, but what got me were the "screams"; they were pathetic and seemed just too comical to convey the terror of a child turning into a donkey

@alex.g7317

Жыл бұрын

I gotta watch the original now!

@redrobins731

Жыл бұрын

That’s because the 1940 writers were actually trying to tell a story, whereas the 2022 writers were just trying to collect a check.

@jasminemohamed823

Жыл бұрын

Honestly at this point, the only reason why the real live action remakes are being made in my opinion is because it makes you feel more thankful, that there is a better and less cash grabby version of it

imagine having so many years in 3d animation experience and being tasked with creating feces

is the audio out of sync for someone else?

@ianflores1504

Жыл бұрын

Yes

We will never forget the memory of being traumatised by the donkey scene

@LazyOldFusspot_3428

Жыл бұрын

I was hoping the donkey scene in the remake will be just as terrifying, but the cringe-inducing cgi just ruined it...

@lizwatkins3594

Жыл бұрын

Ya seeing just the little bit of it again for the first time in almost 20 years re-disturbed me and reminded me why I didn't watch it much as a kid. It was just a lot darker and more upsetting than most of the other Disney movies..

@josephnewsome2935

Жыл бұрын

I hadn’t seen the original in a decade and that’s the one scene I always remember

@freedomofspeech2867

Жыл бұрын

It's not trauma, it's a great life lesson, you spoiled western brat.

@LATEXXJUGGERNUT

Жыл бұрын

It was always the best part of the movie, they had their fun and got to become what they were, total jackasses

American movies usually don't count swearing as swearing if it's in a different language, so I imagine "bollocks" is allowed since it's not common slang over here.

@robhill9166

Жыл бұрын

And bollocks is the right word.

@Jim4815162342

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I would put it somewhere around "crap."

@ShadeATV

Жыл бұрын

They said jackass

@BlazingKhioneus

Жыл бұрын

In america, bollocks is just a funny british word. That's p much all we think of it here.

@BlazingKhioneus

Жыл бұрын

@@ShadeATV they "censored" it with that horrendous overuse of the donkey noises

5:46 *Shark Tale-vibes intensifies* EDIT: I paused the video to make this throw away joke then he actually mentioned it. Wow.

@G.GlovePoP

6 ай бұрын

Not gonna lie I thought you said Sherk tale

22:05 that's exactly it. Bollocks is mostly thought of as a silly UK swear substitute in the US.

Love how everyone on KZread right now is giving this movie *_HEAT_*

@mr.machine3328

Жыл бұрын

Burn that wood! BURN IT!

@TheMrfoxguy

Жыл бұрын

Its that bad why tom why

@LazyOldFusspot_3428

Жыл бұрын

It will make good FIREWOOD!!!!!

@freedomofspeech2867

Жыл бұрын

They want that because they can portray us as insignificant losers that do nothing more than bring publicity to Disney.

@_V.Va_

Жыл бұрын

Because everyone can agree it's utter shite.

It makes me appreciate the original more, knowing the fact that Disney never learns their mistakes and destroys the core elements of what made their OGs so iconic and unique. Which is why I'm excited to see Guillermo del Toros motion take of the characters story and concept.

@davidthecommenter

Жыл бұрын

they learn from their mistakes, just not in the right way.

@freedomofspeech2867

Жыл бұрын

Netflix put out "Cuties". If you know this and are using it you are a monster.

@davidthecommenter

Жыл бұрын

@@freedomofspeech2867 bro never even mentioned cuties tf??

@freedomofspeech2867

Жыл бұрын

@@davidthecommenter I didn't reply to you. It's just that stupid KZread gives you notifications when someone replies to someone you replied to too. Now let's point and laugh at how dumb KZread is and then go hate on Netflix.

@Uta_Chandra.H

Жыл бұрын

I think that's the idea. They keep making crappier versions so the fans can buy the original with a fancy DVD case. Those "signature movies" are more pricey

Regarding the use of 'bollocks' in the US, my kids love the James Herriot audiobooks, and my first grader picked up 'bollocks' as a favorite expression. Nobody around us reacted at all, but I had to fill her in on what she was saying and we agreed it wasn't really appropriate for school 😆

Del Torros version is so good. It is what an actual good original story telling of an old story can be.

@Schnipps

Жыл бұрын

And the story you say would be good is what Del Torro does and it makes so much more sense.

What you said about the blue fairy and Disney marketing perfectly hit the nail on the head. Disney does not care about diversity at all they care about is making profits and know that race swapping fairies and mermaids is just bait to get people to argue and the arguments become news media stories which boosts even more attention to film.

@BlackCroft666

Жыл бұрын

Also a convenient shield against critics.

@Mr_Bones.

Жыл бұрын

Very true, and I’m not arguing your point. I just want to ad to your point that the wokeness, despite creating attention and interaction online, does actively hurt sales as Lightyear bombed hard and Disney revenue is going down. We were locked in our homes for a year and Disney’s stock has absolutely crashed. They went from $196 per share down to $97. They lost $10-15 just from announcing the new woke Mermaid movie. They got attention, they didn’t get money. Disney imo is not going bankrupt, but they will get very close before they realize their marketing and sales team has been lying to them :/

@Zeetana1

Жыл бұрын

It isn't just because it gets people talking, because even if people talk about something, it doesn't mean they will watch it or pay for it. Especially when there is so much BAD publicity, one film after another. They race-swap because it is the laziest way of complying with the ESG criterias all companies have to follow in this new stakeholder capitalism. They are basically diversity quotas and crap like that they need to fill. So instead of creating new side-characters or make new stories (= be creative), they race- and gender-swap a lot. It is a woke virus, and it is not good for business as they are losing money on it and angering more people. Then they push their agenda and blame fans for being racists, etc., to try to save face.

@ClaudetteVioletta

Жыл бұрын

even worse: Just look at Halle Bailey, poor girl is getting bullied for being Ariel; they also bring hate onto the actors.

@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer

Жыл бұрын

Which then makes the film flop and lose $70 mill+

Disney knows that there is a a guy who perfectly emulates Jimmy's voice in Kingdom Hearts. Why did they not hire him? If he said no, he is a wise man.

@joshuadejesus9861

Жыл бұрын

Probably the case kingdom hearts is more dignified than this shit

@ajflink

Жыл бұрын

@@joshuadejesus9861 And more respectful to the source material.

@ShatteredGlass916

Жыл бұрын

@@ajflink and actually a better product overall

@lolitswakka1115

Жыл бұрын

Because Celebrity name is supposed to be better, but it rarely is

@yanstein8464

Жыл бұрын

celebrity casting

4:00 - also he could have a line when they're on the ocean when he calls out for Pinnochio but instead yells Wilson

not me thinking about the pneumonia levels in the goldfish's bowl for 5 minutes after the scene

There's a Japanese version of Pinocchio, which has been translated into 30 languages including Afrikaans, which played on South African televisions in the 1970's and even I grew up with it being born in 2002 and all. That was 52 episodes long and made Pinocchio go through a lot of moral changes through selflessness and courage and learning about the world, and they expanded the universe a lot. Yet with all the on-goings in that series, changes in characters and story, it still stayed more true to the original Disney Movie than this one!!!

@SlapstickGenius23

Жыл бұрын

Piccolino!

@mirceazaharia2094

Жыл бұрын

That sounds fantastic. Buratino and the Golden Key by Lev Tolstoi is the very first book that I read on my own. As a long-time Pinocchio fan, what's the name of the series, please?

@SaitohYatate

Жыл бұрын

And it was dark af, too. There’s some serious weight to every dumb choice Pinocchio makes in that series. To the point that he gets shot to death by an army in the last episode. And yes, the guy who created Speed Racer drew that version.

@jrr6947

Жыл бұрын

@@SaitohYatate I don't think this is the same one we're talking of😅

@jrr6947

Жыл бұрын

@@mirceazaharia2094 I just know it by Pinocchio, so had to go Google its full title: The Adventures of Pinocchio (TV series 1976-1977)

My issue with the "flat eyes" in the remake is the fact I always imagined Pinocchio to be more akin to a marionette rather than a regular puppet after coming to life. I know the face was painted on at first, but afterwards, they gained mobility to emote, so I always figured it was a bit of the blue fairy's magic, to change up his features. So the flat eyes in the remake genuinely added more of the uncanny valley that I don't think was intentional.

@ghoulchan7525

Жыл бұрын

I agree they should have made his eyes look like insert eyes.

@urgae9125

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, he should have been given glass eyes. It’d make more sense.

@ghoulchan7525

Жыл бұрын

@@urgae9125 well those are expensive. so just painted wooden eye balls would have done the trick too.

The whale with the tentacles look like something from the Sci-Fi Bargain Bin shark movie that they always do every couple weeks or every couple months who does make a profit

Pinocchio 1996 with Martin Landau and Jonathan Taylor Thomas will always be my favorite Pinocchio.

@sproductionsinc

7 ай бұрын

Bebe was smokin in that version

0:04 MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE will never get old. It fits with literally anything.

@CreatureCal

Жыл бұрын

Still should’ve gotten the turbo

@chriskennedy6300

Жыл бұрын

🤣 That never gets old! 22 years and that quote still holds up. 👍

@fabionoronhazampieri7639

10 ай бұрын

Metal sobic in sonic cd: you never catch me unless in shift to maxium overdrive

@fabionoronhazampieri7639

10 ай бұрын

​@@chriskennedy6300Metal sonic in sonic cd: you never catch me unless in shift to maxium overdrive

@chriskennedy6300

10 ай бұрын

@@fabionoronhazampieri7639 And at the end you realize you *"Should have gotten the turbo."* lol

Pinocchio's eye animation is just like the eye animation of the stop motion figures from Robot Chicken.

@tiamystic

Жыл бұрын

It looks like the projected eyes that some Disney animatronics have like in the Frozen Adventure ride

@mikekomarinski

Жыл бұрын

@@tiamystic I 💜 your Powerpuff Girl avatar.

@tiamystic

Жыл бұрын

@@mikekomarinski Thanks!

@mikekomarinski

Жыл бұрын

@@tiamystic U R welcome, 1 of my childhood favorites.🙂

20:24 Bollocks carries almost no weight in America

@reneemachuca3026

Жыл бұрын

I saw it, said James Corden, and that made me laugh

@John-mp4qc

3 ай бұрын

@@reneemachuca3026yeah cuz he used 1 PEPPER

10:55 kind of sounds like a hippo laugh...

@LazyOldFusspot_3428

Жыл бұрын

Makes sense because whales and hippos are actually distant cousins

@alexb859

Жыл бұрын

@@LazyOldFusspot_3428 that is true

@LazyOldFusspot_3428

Жыл бұрын

@@alexb859 but it sounds honestly goofy tho. Should've kept the whaley noises.

@alexb859

Жыл бұрын

@@LazyOldFusspot_3428 agreed :)

The original idea of Jiminy Crickets animation was to make him cute and they knew he didn't quite look like a cricket. That's why they tell the audience what he is and we buy it. Figaro should have looked more cartoonish. Had they listened to the interviews of the original animators and Walt Disney, this movie would have worked.

@BlazeHeartPanther

Жыл бұрын

You can also thank Disney's animator Ward Kimball (one of the 9 Old Med) for bringing him to life. He was about to leave studio when his Soup Eating scene in Snow White was cut cause it wasn't necessary in the films plot, he was very distraught. But Walt offered him the position to be the Supervising Animator on Jiminy Cricket and thus we got a memorable character and one of Disney's best animators ever.

That scene with the poop was pretty much a giftwrapped thumbnail for every youtuber that predictably hated this movie.

I dont know what happened with my audio watching this but steve was talking about his sponsor while just talking about gepettos house, and the cleo concernversation was over jiminy in front of a school

@MDOC321

Жыл бұрын

Yeah me too...

Is this just me or is the audio broken? It jumped the ad audio and now the whole video has the audio it's two minutes before the image It's so confusing to watch like this

I always took the idea of the original film is that there are terrible people out there, and they don't always get caught. That the only way to avoid becoming one of their victims is to be as good a person as possible.

@oliviabb73849

Жыл бұрын

And THIS is why you’re a professor 😅lol

@dogman-fx9ub

Жыл бұрын

Not only being good but being self aware and perspectiveness are encouraged in the story too

Let me get this straight: They turned Pinocchio - a story about a new born boy (basically a baby when you think about it) learning the importance of listening to your conscience and that your actions of consequences - into a story about about, what? The dangers of peer pressure? I mean... I guess that's fine, but that doesn't really flow well when Pinocchio is kicked out of school, affirming to him that his only chance at success is to go with the fox and cat. And they turned Monstro into what is essentially the whale variant of a Lusca (For those that aren't aware, a Lusca is a shark/octopus hybrid from Caribbean folklore). Cool in concept, but I agree that it ruins the character, since Monstro isn't evil. He's just a whale doing whale things. Oh, and in America "Bollocks" isn't even a swear word. It's on the same level as saying "balls".

@thatguy-sp6fo

Жыл бұрын

It's barely even on the same level as saying balls

@daniellauricella5132

Жыл бұрын

Never heard of a Lusca before. Thanks for that tidbit. Learn something new every day.

@Takeru9292

Жыл бұрын

Bollocks is a British curse word, and it's just as vulgar as saying "shit" or "fuck".

@s.c.2180

Жыл бұрын

And the film isn't located even anywhere close to the caribbeans.

If anyone is looking for a good live action Pinocchio, I highly recommend the 2019 version. It is closer to the original book and uses more practical effects than CGI.

It’s like a separate effects teams worked on Honest John and another team worked on everything else. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I agree with you about the fairy, actually. its the same with randomly adding lgbt side characters for one or two scenes. its not because Disney actually cares about these minorities or the communities belonging to those minorities; they are partaking in corporate virtue signaling because they know how audiences will react. either good reactions or bad reactions will still draw attention to the films. disney isn't "woke". they just know how to market.

@partygamingz3332

Жыл бұрын

Yeah tbh, I can't even say this is good representation or anything since she is only in the movie in one scene and never again, completely cut out of her major roles in the movie besides the beginning Also they gave her a straight up Halloween costume, with fake wings and a glittery dress you would find for some cheap cosplay. She doesn't look like mystical being but like she's cosplaying as a fairy

@spinosaurusstriker

Жыл бұрын

Well thats what some people call it woke, representation moved by corporativism.

@marley7868

Жыл бұрын

except deliberatley pissing people off and bringing ideologues into your fold is a bad idea

@mallyxtheunyielding7212

Жыл бұрын

I would not call angering a significant chunk of your audience "Good Marketing" I agree that the higher ups in Disney may not give a crap and are just pandering but alot of the actual creatives have insanely radical political ideas that they keep shoving into everything. It's not a coincidence that they recast the circus owner as another straight white male.

@keiratheartistic

Жыл бұрын

I agree

I will admit, the visuals of the fox are absolutely breathtaking. I would go as far as to say almost real looking. So props to the cgi and art team on that account.

@yeetmeat2734

Жыл бұрын

This sucks even more because now we know they ARE capable of making good cgi. So why was the donkey CGI so HORRIBLE?

@user-vv7wu8rc8w

Жыл бұрын

I heard speculation on the internet about Fox's model being from a scrapped Robin Hood remake. Hence the difference in quality. I am glad it is most likely not true, because it would mean that a whole project of THAT level was turned down in favor of this mediocre movie.

Bollocks does carry a lot less weight hear in the US. It's rarely used here anyway, but I was surprised to find out it is considered a swear word in the UK. Also, Pinocchio got his name from being made of pine in the original book by Collodi.

A really bizarre creative decision I've seen repeated with these Disney remakes is how dark and muted the scenes appear. I don't know at what point the director thought this would be nice to look at. There are just shadows everywhere and the colours are really watered down. Compare the scenes to the original and there's no mistaking how much brighter everything appears in contrast.

@marcusblackwell2372

9 ай бұрын

It does work for Cinderella because other than the talking mice and the magic, it's actually realistic

Geppetto letting Pinocchio go to school alone makes even less sense in this version since it's established he's not a new parent. He has experience raising a child and should know better.

@ching-jungyang62

Жыл бұрын

Which means he should be more careful taking care of his son that literally brought back to life and should be unwilling to lose him again by any chances! Well, that settles it, Geppetto is a terrible father.

@aniahliepard

Жыл бұрын

Either that or it’s just a weird culture thing

@horse14t

Жыл бұрын

Not defending Geppetto's actions much but during the time period the movie's set in it was normal to let your kids go to school on their own.

@laurabeane8862

Жыл бұрын

It IS a cultural thing. Back when you could TRUST a kid could walk to their neighborhood school by themselves without being put in too much danger

@oliviamorales9406

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I've seen several movies that were made in the 40s and they do show kids going off to school on their own, so I guess it was the norm at the time

Geppetto: "Here, take this!" *Throws log and it smacks Pinocchio on the head* Me: Heh. Cute. Geppetto: "I hit my wooden boy on the head with a piece of wood." Me: Way to kill the slightest of humorous jokes, Disney.

@benitoswagolini3410

Жыл бұрын

I actually laughed at that joke because of how horrible the delivery sounded. Tom Hanks deserves better.

@DrawinskyMoon

Жыл бұрын

Perfect example of show don’t tell

@247webgirl

Жыл бұрын

Ties into Steve’s point about most of the jokes in the original being visual gags rather than shoehorned one-liners. That would’ve been a really simple but effective joke that’s also a nod to how the original approached humor. But it had to be ruined by over explaining

@kurotenshi8100

Жыл бұрын

I laughed at that part, felt like a "bonk" to me xd Until Geppetto opened his mouth... *sigh*

@brainthebrian3690

Жыл бұрын

Tom Hanks should have walked out right then and there

Tom Hanks is one of my all time favorite actors and I’ve never seen never seen him in a bad movie until now.

have you seen the live action pinocchio movie from the 90s? they used an animatronic and stop-motion and I think it holds up really well!

I was at my dad's house last night, and he put on Little Mermaid for my neices and nephews to watch. I haven't seen it in probably 20 years. The animation is so beautiful! It's sad that animation isn't made that way anymore.

@Attmay

Жыл бұрын

For Disney to throw that type of animation out just to copy Pixar was and is unforgivable.

The poop joke should really tell you something about Disney these days.

11:44 I laughed more at the sound of impact more then the joke 🤣

@patrickpearson492

4 ай бұрын

It kind of got the chuckle out of me but if they remove that joke it will be a better joke

Watched this a few days ago with my friend and jesus christ I still have SO many questions about those smoke beasts at pleasure island, becasue those were creepy and seemingly out of no where.

These godawful movies only make me appreciate traditional animation so much more. Also, my 3rd grade teacher read us the original Pinocchio book in class, and that was a beautifully dark journey! I don't think even Del Toro's version will quite be that dark (but damn am I still looking forward to his movie, because I also love me some stop-motion goodness!)

I have to admit - the scene where Geppetto hits Pinocchio with the anchor in Monstro actually got an out loud laugh from me. It was just so sudden and the thunk of it making contact just caught me so off guard.

@kaitlando636

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@avro683lancaster7

Жыл бұрын

i think it would have worked better if they cut Gepetto's line and just had him wince

@invadernav3422

Жыл бұрын

@@avro683lancaster7 Yeah, I think his line kind of ruins it. I laughed at the actual act of him throwing the anchor on him, I almost didn't notice his added comment.

Thankfully Del Toro’s Pinocchio was incredible. Kind of wild that both released the same year.

Them escaping the whale reminds me of "the incredibles"

An almost 100 year old movie, looks more soulful and expressive? than a movie from today that had a far larger budget and modern technology to work with....

@freedomofspeech2867

Жыл бұрын

Boy, has it already been that long since the war? Huh.

@_V.Va_

Жыл бұрын

You can have all the money and technology, but if no one has the passion or creativity, it just won't work.

@Alondro77

Жыл бұрын

@@freedomofspeech2867 I remember the first animated movie on chiseled stone film... I went with Fred and Barney to watch it!

@puddles3425

Жыл бұрын

Take the mufasa and lion king remake for example. Very realisitc looking animals but no creativity or expression to it. Just about making the money 💰

@kevinlee7678

Жыл бұрын

@@puddles3425 And that's not even getting started on Scar!

"Bullocks" isn't a curse word here in the US. Same with "wanker", I'm pretty sure. They're seen as "silly British words" if anything. Which is _wild_ because that'd be like if a children's movie made in the UK just casually dropped the word "cunt" in the middle of a happy-go-lucky musical number and then we aired it uncensored here in the States.

@JokeyRune

Жыл бұрын

I feel like you could write a whole essay about something like that. "Is a curse word from a different language/dialect okay to use?" The only reason it seems to be okay is because "no one will get it. At least not the children".

@chereecargill355

Жыл бұрын

How many times does Ron Weasley say "bloody hell" in the Potter films. That would sure get your backside warmed with a paddle if an American child said it. At least it would back in the day when I was growing up! But "bullocks"? Just a nonsense word.

@petehill7280

Жыл бұрын

@@chereecargill355 It's 'bollocks' not 'bullocks'.

@geshscale6068

Жыл бұрын

@@petehill7280 just a nonsense word.

@DMAN99

Жыл бұрын

@@chereecargill355 It’s Bollocks and it means testicles, it’s not a nonsense word. It’s usually used when a situation has gone bad, although if someone says “The Dog’s Bollocks” that actually means it’s a good thing.

Notice how night time scenes are so darkly lit that you can’t even see anything? Current Disney does this a lot with their live action stuff. And it’s because they don’t do on set lighting anymore and just shoot everything with dull light and adjust it all in post production, making every thing, even real things, look fake.

Yeah for me the word bollocks never has seemed like a curse word, I think in América it’s weight is really watered down. To me I always thought it was just like the British equivalent to dang or some other safer words to say in place of actual curse words.

@bellabyers2929

11 ай бұрын

It definitely doesn’t mean dang 💀