Stellaris Relic Tier List

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In this video I will look at the Relics available in Stellaris and attempt to place them into a tier list. You may disagree with me, some of these choices are down to personal preference! So let me know in the comments below.
Lets dive in!
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:23 F Tier
4:00 C tier
9:44 B tier
13:30 A tier
16:51 S tier
Stellaris Version 3.2
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  • @evenmoor
    @evenmoor2 жыл бұрын

    You win bonus points for this video for featuring _Atlantis: The Lost Empire._ Such an underrated, largely forgotten movie. It's got Spock, Ivanova, and a total Daniel Jackson expy!

  • @MontuPlays

    @MontuPlays

    2 жыл бұрын

    Truer words were never spoken!

  • @vitaliitomas8121

    @vitaliitomas8121

    2 жыл бұрын

    Atlantis? Underrated? Have you heard of Treasure Planet?

  • @evenmoor

    @evenmoor

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@vitaliitomas8121 I have, actually, heard of _Treasure Planet._ 😁

  • @DarthHellion2

    @DarthHellion2

    2 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget Michael J. Fox :)

  • @insertnamehere6659

    @insertnamehere6659

    2 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/fGpm0LOMkZaZZbw.html This LSD trip? :P

  • @Empdizz
    @Empdizz2 жыл бұрын

    The Last Baol is S tier, I once got it very early in the game, and steamrolled the galaxy. Colonising every habitable planet and turning it into a Gaia world is game breaking.

  • @Mario-kf3ej

    @Mario-kf3ej

    2 жыл бұрын

    indeed its better than any S tier there especially that from my experience Boal chain you can end faster than all other precursor. Then you land your ass on Tomb worlds turn them into gaias with extra pops. How is that not S tier ? Not to mention 10% pop growth is literally 2 point trait for free ... that stacks with rapid breeder. Literally everything about it is good. It is not even terrible for Machine empires - like Rogue servitor or driven assimilator ... heck even Exterminators get some pops to exterminate. Also Gaia world still gives 10% jobs production output so yeah Machine empires benefit greatly aswell.

  • @shawngillogly6873

    @shawngillogly6873

    2 жыл бұрын

    Baol is absolutely S Tier.

  • @milktobo7418

    @milktobo7418

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dont forget that it makes seeded life easier to play if you get it early as well.

  • @josephtripp1696

    @josephtripp1696

    2 жыл бұрын

    Baol also has a weird "working as intended" strat with fanatic purifiers where you take the random low habitability worlds you wind up occupying, make them liveable, and give you a bit of extra unity from the xenos that "coincedentally" appear after using it.

  • @RobBCactive

    @RobBCactive

    2 жыл бұрын

    Baol isn't S tier, for some empires it is awesome for others it doesn't help at all; even bio based ones with nicely diverse populations find better ways to spend influence. The Cybrex used properly is far more of a game changer, I was actually impressed that Montu has spotted it as most online don't adapt their strategy enough and talk about the endgame ringworld which doesn't alter the game result.

  • @juresimic9393
    @juresimic93932 жыл бұрын

    One great point of the Surveyor is that it costs no influence to activate... you activate it any time your're tapped out on influence...

  • @ranekeisenkralle8265

    @ranekeisenkralle8265

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. Plus the cooldown is shorter than other relics. I for one quite like it - and it is particularly useful if you happen to spawn in a rather barren stretch of space

  • @Miranda17137

    @Miranda17137

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would put it in at least B tier just on the back of this, it's a button you can push with practically no downside.

  • @mateuszslawinski1990

    @mateuszslawinski1990

    2 жыл бұрын

    1. Activation cost is very low. 2. Can grant rare resources deposit. 3. Can repeat the process twice. It's basically A tier.

  • @Xymor
    @Xymor2 жыл бұрын

    Having spent a great deal of time with the Surveyor active, I have noticed that it has a hidden effect. Wile activated it will sometimes (~50%) locate an additional deposit during its 5-year cooldown, it will also very rarely produce a strategic resource. That being said, I still agree that it belongs in C-tier because after mid-game the bonuses are completely irrelevant. Also, I too have never gotten the Galatron (2.5k hours).

  • @gonkdroid4603

    @gonkdroid4603

    2 жыл бұрын

    With the soon coming changes to admin cap, ways to acquire more resources without needing to get more pops or systems will be buffed I think

  • @mikedowd6015

    @mikedowd6015

    2 жыл бұрын

    I wasn't aware that it was a 50/50 shot for a 2nd activation of the Surveyor. It seemed to me that every time I activated it, I'd get 2 pulses of resource discovery -- the first when I activated it, and the 2nd about 1/2 way through the cooldown.

  • @dyne313

    @dyne313

    2 жыл бұрын

    I got plus 4 exotic gasses in my last playthrough, which is quite nice.

  • @MrAustyn88

    @MrAustyn88

    2 жыл бұрын

    I've been lucky enough to get Galatron twice on Ironman playthroughs with about 500 hours and one time have the Casus Belli to steal it from another empire I've never become one with the worm though. Wish I had done it before the patch to it

  • @N1ghthavvk

    @N1ghthavvk

    2 жыл бұрын

    There's actually also a chance for a third deposit found. And honestly the Surveyor is by far the best relic. You can get it early. You can activate it often. And every activation stacks upon the next. I basically never activate anything else. If you get lucky, you even get rare resource deposits on planets and can then use those with a Habitat to exploit them even more.

  • @Dan-zg1dq
    @Dan-zg1dq2 жыл бұрын

    End game crisis relics seriously need a buff,why would I kill the prethoryn just to spawn more of the pests?

  • @MontuPlays

    @MontuPlays

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean, by that you've won the game already, right?

  • @archmagemc3561

    @archmagemc3561

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MontuPlays Not when the Blokkarts are around the corner! (giga structures) But yeah, I'd much rather the contingency one, since thats 300% mega strucutre build speed.

  • @guccigooche5415

    @guccigooche5415

    2 жыл бұрын

    Don’t know if this was a glitch, but the onetime I got the brood queen I was able to add an unlimited amount of ships to it and once added they no longer contributed to my fleet count, so I got massive million plus fleets with no upkeep!

  • @Zoomy

    @Zoomy

    2 жыл бұрын

    Preserving the Queen to make more Prethoryns makes a lot of sense for Rogue Servitors and pretty much no-one else.

  • @marciusnhasty

    @marciusnhasty

    2 жыл бұрын

    I haven't seen that crisis for a long time, but originally it was possible to get it during the war with that crisis and get bonus ships for food that don't use any fleet cap. In case crysis couth you off guard because your settings were bit to high and you had to wage long attrition heavy war against Prethoryn, it was somewhat helpful. Exploit included with it was just bonkers.

  • @MatthewChenault
    @MatthewChenault2 жыл бұрын

    Out of the minor relics, the Head of Zar’Qlan and the Blade of the Huntress are the most powerful. Anything that buffs ship speed and gives you free fallen empire ships in the mid-game is always a massive boon.

  • @antonycharnock2993

    @antonycharnock2993

    2 жыл бұрын

    ZARQLAN WILLS IT!!!!

  • @warbrain1053

    @warbrain1053

    2 жыл бұрын

    cybrex one is cool too to make every land invasion a sandbox.

  • @pagatryx5451

    @pagatryx5451

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm not too sure about the Head of Zar'Qlan. 20yrs past mid game (minimum requirement for it to spawn) and its spawned fleets are typically not much compared to what I can build. I might use it once or twice? But it doesn't stay useful very long. Then when you take into consideration the Spiritualist ethics attraction? I typically just don't even dig it up.

  • @antonycharnock2993

    @antonycharnock2993

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pagatryx5451 Try to save up the fleets till you've got a full FE strength fleet.

  • @MrAustyn88

    @MrAustyn88

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pagatryx5451 I haven't tested it, but can you have the fleet destroyed and scan the debris for FE tech?

  • @floflo1645
    @floflo16452 жыл бұрын

    Atlantis is so beautiful !! I could watch it 10 times and never get bored by the animation !! It is a shame disney has given up on 2d.

  • @MontuPlays

    @MontuPlays

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very true!

  • @Arthaius

    @Arthaius

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MontuPlays - I don't play a lot so don't really know much about most of them, and probably wouldn't manage to use them as effectively as better players, however I think the decapitated head seems actually pretty good. Other than that, the only Relic I ever actually wanted significantly any time I would play was always the Baol - being able to terraform planets into perfect Edens just seems to be the best ability you could have in this type of game. I am more of a creator rather than a conqueror, I always loved using the special items and such to turn so many dead planets in Spore into tropical paradise worlds :)

  • @bond0815
    @bond08152 жыл бұрын

    Great list. Personally, I would bump surveyor into B tier, just becasue its so insanely cheap to use. Its a great general "filler" relic imo, to use if you have no better relic to use in your current situation or are short on influence.

  • @ranekeisenkralle8265

    @ranekeisenkralle8265

    2 жыл бұрын

    True.

  • @MimicAraiun

    @MimicAraiun

    2 жыл бұрын

    When I saw Surveyor in C tier I thought maybe I was dumb for thinking it was really strong, but seeing all these people pointing out that Surveyor should be higher up is a slight relief, it's so easy to get and basically free so I always like using it

  • @SlungBlade
    @SlungBlade2 жыл бұрын

    Got the head in my latest playthrough. We're ascended synthetics. The spiritual fallen empire was mightily confused, but they still were ok with us settling on their nice holy worlds in a little pocket no one else could access. Thanks fellas :)

  • @astro6009

    @astro6009

    2 жыл бұрын

    I got the digsite for it in my latest run, and I'm also fanatic materialist synthetics. I like my pops at 100 happiness, so I decided to abort the dig before the final event. Spiritualists are such a nieusance.

  • @shawngillogly6873

    @shawngillogly6873

    2 жыл бұрын

    I got it as Driven Assimilators once. Utterly hilarious.

  • @dyne313
    @dyne3132 жыл бұрын

    I like The Surveyor because it costs no influence. I find myself influence starved most of the time.

  • @smokinggnu6584
    @smokinggnu65842 жыл бұрын

    Damn, i've forgotten how many relics Guillis' Planet Modifiers and Features adds into the game. But nothing beats Zer0s' Infinty Stones mod for relics (except the warforge here in the S tier, it rivals even those).

  • @NemisCassander
    @NemisCassander2 жыл бұрын

    One small point: the Javorian Pox, AFAICT, is the only method that a non-FP, non-Crisis empire can make Tomb Worlds from enemy planets. So if you're going Radiotrophic / Post-Apocalyptic, it can be useful. Of course, since you cannot control if you get it, you can't rely on it, but it can make the game quite different if you do. (Not saying it should be in a different tier.)

  • @shawngillogly6873
    @shawngillogly68732 жыл бұрын

    I am doing what I've never done before and disputing the wisdom of Montu. The Head of Zarquon is an absolute game changer every time I've received it. And watch Jon (MATN) and his impossible run, and see how he, or Marc of the Templin Institute, leaned on them to survive in their games. All. Hail. Zarquon!

  • @ivanvladimir0435
    @ivanvladimir04352 жыл бұрын

    The blade of the huntress carried me so hard in the early game that I'm happy to see it being ranked at such good spot, this video did it justice along with the rubricator!

  • @Ichorizor
    @Ichorizor2 жыл бұрын

    Saw Atlantis on the KZread preview, never clicked faster in my life!

  • @0ptera
    @0ptera2 жыл бұрын

    Pox should be C Tier: Like any precursor artifact you can get it very early on and an additional +20 years leader lifespan on top of all research is nice to have. Surveyor is easily B or even A: Killing the Mining Hub can be done very early on, activation costs only 500 energy and it saves so many building slots wasted on refineries.

  • @N1ghthavvk

    @N1ghthavvk

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agree on the surveyor, Montu severely underrated it.

  • @George_K.
    @George_K.2 жыл бұрын

    If you're playing the StarnetAI mod you can camp the final system with the Unbidden's portal and secure the Warlock which in turn will be very helpful in war since at that point there'll be a few quite formidable empires on the map to overcome.

  • @YukishiroShikaze
    @YukishiroShikaze2 жыл бұрын

    I love your added comment about the Galatron- "If you want to be THE senate..." lol. The Head of Zarqlan is my favorite relic especially if I get it early and if I'm extra lucky, the spiritualist FE are cute starfish people, Zarqlan wills it!!! I am torn between the War Forge and the Last Baol as the best precursor relic.

  • @sergeantamol497
    @sergeantamol4972 жыл бұрын

    I really like the Head of Zarqlan just because I can get myself a nice fallen empire fleet. Throughout a full game you can get like 200 fleet power in fallen empire ships, and they are nice.

  • @UrVileWedge
    @UrVileWedge2 жыл бұрын

    I quite like the Surveyor and would have probably put it somewhere on the B to A border. 500 energy for a shot of a permanent deposit of rare resources is a hell of a deal. When I get the thing, I almost always find myself running its triumph almost permanently. Plus, you can often get it much earlier than the other relics.

  • @svenk9140
    @svenk91402 жыл бұрын

    For me the surveyor is an a tier relic ! And for small empires an s tier because it boost your Systems heavy for a little bit of credits and u get many rare resorces over the game

  • @MegaShrut
    @MegaShrut2 жыл бұрын

    Loved the Analysis !! Amazing work Montu

  • @sergeymelkumov5940
    @sergeymelkumov59402 жыл бұрын

    Disagree on the surveyer, I once defeated mining drones protecting before even researching cruisers and it can randomly add +5 strategic resource plots in your empire. I think it is at least B tier.

  • @malcontent1119
    @malcontent11192 жыл бұрын

    "assassinate him and steal his *chair*" Absolutely hilarious line, great use of Atlantis too. These tier lists are awesome!

  • @Kirovslaya
    @Kirovslaya2 жыл бұрын

    Just got stellaris + all DLC on Winter Sale, your vids have been extremely helpful. Cheers!

  • @Ben.....
    @Ben.....2 жыл бұрын

    IMO The Surveyer should be in B Tier just because it takes only 500 credits to activate. That means while you are strapped for influence you can still use the Relic 24/7

  • @JBrander
    @JBrander2 жыл бұрын

    I am loving the intros to these videos. Huge fan of Atlantis and Titan AE myself.

  • @danielh4836
    @danielh48362 жыл бұрын

    On the topic of the surveyor - let's say hypothetically you're running a tell empire that has deposits on literally every planet (maybe you've used it so many times over the span of a very long game). What happens if you activate the surveyor while every planet already has a bonus resource?

  • @N1ghthavvk

    @N1ghthavvk

    2 жыл бұрын

    It will add another fitting resource on top of the other one. So a mining station might get additional alloys or rare resources, a research station might get additional research of a different or the same type, etc. If there's a weird resource like dark matter or living metal, it will sometimes be confused and you won't be able to take both deposits. In earlier version it could also affect habitats and ring worlds, but that was patched last update. Honestly the surveyor is the best relic, because it allows you to literally keep getting more and more benefits and become self-sustained without pops (except for food) in the long run. And it also doesn't "run out".

  • @cheetahman2830
    @cheetahman28302 жыл бұрын

    Can we talk about the fact how having a medievel blade in your empire increases your planetary sensor range?? Like seriously how does that work.

  • @wetzel4806

    @wetzel4806

    2 жыл бұрын

    Use the sword like an antena?

  • @lorekeeper685

    @lorekeeper685

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think it's a magic sword

  • @coneinggaming6285

    @coneinggaming6285

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lorekeeper685 citation needed, but probably is a magic sword

  • @TempestLM

    @TempestLM

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also makes your ships fly faster

  • @ValinShadow
    @ValinShadow2 жыл бұрын

    @Montu Plays time to revisit this tier list with today's Dev Diary!

  • @davidburton9690
    @davidburton96902 жыл бұрын

    I love the Surveyor. I was able to get it early by spawning next to the home miner system. I did see double resource pops periodically, and early or midgame, it did matter to get a six mineral, energy, or greater on a useless body. I balanced my economy and exploded fleet production just from those bonuses piling up. It makes those resource poor starbases much more efficient, and is better for a less aggressive single play. It even helps with research and strategic deposits. I got the Galatron once, that influence was great!

  • @rylorthreev1353
    @rylorthreev13532 жыл бұрын

    Only time I actually took advantage of an end game relic was durin my DE playthrough, battleships instant hyperlane jump and probably max sub light speed with the warlock, it was fun watching corvettes being intercepted by a fleet a battleships

  • @enigmaticspace7578
    @enigmaticspace7578 Жыл бұрын

    Ah, the Cybrex Warforge. The 'fire and forget', or in this case, the 'land armies and forget' button of Stellaris. I can't remember just how many times I've forgotten about my invading armies whenever I get the Cybrex Warforge.

  • @Scrydragon
    @Scrydragon2 жыл бұрын

    A quick correction: With the Rubricator, the Relic World that it is attached to is random in size. In my many multiplayer games with friends, the Rubricator Relic World varied from size 14 to size 25.

  • @milktobo7418

    @milktobo7418

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think I saw it on a size 12 or 13 in the past 2 months. But yeah, definitely random planet size.

  • @gettingby365
    @gettingby3652 жыл бұрын

    So I'm playing stellaris and get a notification of a new Montu video. Cool, pause game and watch. We get to the A teir and I'm like "oh yeah, reliquaries." So I buy one... bam Galatron. I wish my luck was like that irl

  • @litchgath
    @litchgath2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Montu!

  • @antonycharnock2993
    @antonycharnock29932 жыл бұрын

    My personal favourites are the Cybrex warforge, Khans throne & the boot relic? - SABATON!!! That was it. Made from liquid metal. Must be in a mod I use.

  • @amphitheremajesticon4928

    @amphitheremajesticon4928

    2 жыл бұрын

    ah i love the boot, i think it's from more events. i appreciate the dwarf fortress reference in it.

  • @AlexisofTocqueville
    @AlexisofTocqueville2 жыл бұрын

    I don't know if it's a bug, but I have noticed that the surveyor seems to activate itself every once in a while

  • @MontuPlays

    @MontuPlays

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is not a bug! After you activate it once, there is a 50% chance to repeat this process in 360-1080 days and a 20% chance to repeat this process again in 1080-1800 days.

  • @joeandrew8752
    @joeandrew87522 жыл бұрын

    Noice. Glad you got around to make this.

  • @davidwie
    @davidwie2 жыл бұрын

    I quite like the surveyor relic. I think it should be one tier higher, maybe, because of the short activation cooldown time, cost, and the probability to get between 1 and 3 deposits (which may include alloys or engineering research). Personally when I see the extraction hive I always go out of my way to try and get it.

  • @Jernsaxe
    @Jernsaxe2 жыл бұрын

    Correct me if I am wrong, but I am pretty sure the Rubricator relic world isn´t garanteed size 25, or does it grow in size when shard dies? I would also personally rate Surveyor higher since you can get it super early and each activation can spawn multible deposits (I think it is 1.6 per activation on average).

  • @shawngillogly6873

    @shawngillogly6873

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Rubricator world is random as random gets. Seen it as small as 8 or as large as 25.

  • @armchairwarrior963
    @armchairwarrior9632 жыл бұрын

    I always play void dwellers, I love the surveyor! After a few thousand hours lol. I only got it once.

  • @iliketea9122
    @iliketea91222 жыл бұрын

    throwback to the time both me and a friend scored a galatron in the same game, so there were 2 galatrons in the universe

  • @Kacperski75
    @Kacperski752 жыл бұрын

    To be honest, i'd rank the surveyor even higher, for the sheer fact oh how cheap and quick it is and how much it can benefit you in a long run, especially if you roll strategic resources.

  • @rwp0079
    @rwp00792 жыл бұрын

    The Surveyor is very underrated, the thing is amazing, in my last run it was just spitting out loads of new strategic resources. And consider that the resource edict costs scale up along with the other edicts now, you always want to have as many sources of them as possible.

  • @robertocozzi7306
    @robertocozzi73062 жыл бұрын

    I usually play with gigas and acot, so for me that tier list becomes S: contingency core (+300% megastructures build speed is huge and game doesn't end after defeating the crisis) A: baol, rubricator (all two early game), cybrex forge (both early for alloys and late for armies) A/C: surveyor is A if you are void dweller, C otherwise F: every other one Also, for precursor, you should also consider the "dwell into the secret of" bonus when evaluating the relic

  • @midnightstudio3742
    @midnightstudio37422 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff Montu! Just an Idea, but it would be neat to learn some meta combat strategies or tips from you. Just an Idea, but either way excellent work!

  • @MontuPlays

    @MontuPlays

    2 жыл бұрын

    Meta Empire Builds? Or more like space warfare tactics?

  • @paulroberts5622

    @paulroberts5622

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MontuPlays space warfare for me please

  • @brandon221423

    @brandon221423

    2 жыл бұрын

    I concur.

  • @midnightstudio3742

    @midnightstudio3742

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MontuPlays honestly both would be fantastic but specifically warfare

  • @magi3776
    @magi37762 жыл бұрын

    Hey Montu been enjoying your videos for a while and I think your doing a great job keep it up. I was wondering if you might make a video taking about the galaxy settings before the start of the game. Is there a best setting? Or one you always chose? How might your game look depending what you have set? Thanks

  • @danwilkinson5239
    @danwilkinson52392 жыл бұрын

    You need to do a tier list for reaching into the shroud effects too!

  • @forsakenquery

    @forsakenquery

    2 жыл бұрын

    This esp with updated to psionics

  • @52flyingbicycles
    @52flyingbicycles2 жыл бұрын

    The scourge queen should have a WAY lower cooldown. Like, a year tops. Basically “you can convert 10k food to a small fleet whenever you want”

  • @all_pro1237
    @all_pro12372 жыл бұрын

    I have had that war forge once it’s quite useful

  • @sharkyshark111
    @sharkyshark1112 жыл бұрын

    The one game I had where I got the Head of Zarqlan was probably the best possible scenario, I was a driven assimilator surrounded by militaristic spiritualists on one side, and a spiritualist fallen empire on the other, this was also like, 40 or so years in, carried me for a while.

  • @palanare-9420
    @palanare-94202 жыл бұрын

    The Prethoryns dont account to your fleet power nor have upkeep so if you have a longer game they can be quite good

  • @N1ghthavvk

    @N1ghthavvk

    2 жыл бұрын

    They can also stack into a single Fleet without a limit.

  • @harryd5571
    @harryd55712 жыл бұрын

    I feel lucky! Galatron and Cybrex Warforge in the same game. Was a great ride but got it almost at the very end of the game. A more regular but powerful combination is Cybrex plus Great Khan Trophy. That was awesome, too.

  • @alexwtf80
    @alexwtf802 жыл бұрын

    Surveyor is A tier for me. It actually has lower cooldown (5 years), a high hidden chance to trigger a second deposit a few years after the first and basically no cost for activation. Also it's quite easy to get if you find the droids base, you can get it in early mid game.

  • @galacticbunny1205
    @galacticbunny12052 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact : i got the Galatron the first game i played. did not know it was this rare, and did not get to use it because my military was weak and the Khan spawned next to me

  • @tylercross8877
    @tylercross88772 жыл бұрын

    The surveyor relic is really good if you can get it early. It becomes less and less useful as the game progresses

  • @wutzibu
    @wutzibu2 жыл бұрын

    I once got the galatron in a multiplayer round. That was amazing!

  • @nicklavine6497
    @nicklavine64972 жыл бұрын

    The holy head one might be underwhelming but it sounds really cool; I'd love to get it someday.

  • @mattd5857
    @mattd58572 жыл бұрын

    The first time I got the Baol relic I was playing wtih the Survivor origin and had ended up wtih most of my empire being tomb worlds so it was super fun being able to miracle grow them into lush paradises over the course of about a century.

  • @crogsmash1611
    @crogsmash16112 жыл бұрын

    I just got my first galatron while watching your video thanks for the luck

  • @sanguineaurora8765
    @sanguineaurora8765 Жыл бұрын

    "If you want to become the Senate." Ahahah You crack me real good. Also, i know you're playing Twilight Imperium.. you cannot hide from me.

  • @ahizzy5566
    @ahizzy55662 жыл бұрын

    I hope for a ship set tier list next

  • @toddoverholt4556
    @toddoverholt45562 жыл бұрын

    I will say the Omnicodex is really good for Life-Seeded and Void Dweller empires as if you get it early you can start colonizing worlds without having to conquer natives (if your empire ethics don't allow it) or meeting another friendly empire to set up migrations with or getting Droids. You will have to colonize with one of your empire though, but then you can Omnicodex on the world you colonized and then get pops perfectly suited to where you landed

  • @AKPC001
    @AKPC0012 жыл бұрын

    I believe ive gotten the Galatron once, though it mayve been a fever dream, as i remember it being a long time ago, and at that point in time, it didnt do anything as relics hadn't been implemented, but as it was so long ago, it may be one of those fake memories that happen when you try to remember something similar that happened.

  • @informinform7987
    @informinform79872 жыл бұрын

    Montu, first of all thanks for the great content :) I was wondering, do you have any tips or tutorial to play grand admiral?

  • @MontuPlays

    @MontuPlays

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would recommend checking out my Stellaris 3.0 Guide Series, that may offer some useful help (and is mostly still up to date, except the Crime lord deal!)

  • @kevinaustin51
    @kevinaustin512 жыл бұрын

    The yuht cryo core is the same to me as the crisis ones by the time it becomes helpful it’s not a big deal since it just lowers upkeep it’s not as versatile as the cybrex war forge which turns minerals into alloys instantaneously witch can be used to make new ships and also offset the upkeep of existing ships and also also can also be used to make mega structures and also also also gets you access to cybrex war forms which are very good for invading planets so you don’t have to waist as much time bombarding them and also also also also comes with a ruined ring world (I may be mistaken but doesn’t it get you mega structures early?) so yeah if these two precursors both relate to alloys and one is far and above better than the other there’s no competition and unique niche for the yuht CRYo core. Plus one pop (which will be unemployed if you also get the expansion tradition that does the same thing but for unity and you can get earlier in the game making the CRYo core even less useful since there are only two colonists jobs upon initial settlement meaning they’re just more upkeep until you build a district which can take awhile!) isn’t as useful and becomes useless after you settle all your worlds! F tier for sure it’s not competitive not unique and you miss out on all the better precursor artifacts!

  • @kevinaustin51

    @kevinaustin51

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh also a cool thing about the cybrex is that they’ll come back to fight the contingency under certain circumstances.

  • @tim88435
    @tim884352 жыл бұрын

    A while ago you did a video the effectiveness of the focused arc emitter and tested fleets with it against the kinetic artillery. The ships with the arc emitter were equipped with neutron launchers, which do not work with the arc emitter as much as the cloud lightning. If both are used on the same battleships I believe that they will be more powerful than the battleships with the kinetic artillery. I have not tested it in a controlled environment, so I would love to see them getting proved effective!

  • @MontuPlays

    @MontuPlays

    2 жыл бұрын

    I tested ships with Arc emitters and cloud lightning vs the others in one of my videos. I forget exactly which one, though I think it was the XL weapon testing. And yeah, neutron launchers with GC or TL shredded them...

  • @KG-1
    @KG-12 жыл бұрын

    Always pay attention to the passive effects, realized this only recently. Can be significant.

  • @asterisk3281
    @asterisk32812 жыл бұрын

    The Zroni precursor chain (and therefore the relic) is quite decent for Clone Army Origin (Ascendent + Psionic Ascension) The last time I rolled The Last Baol and was a machine empires I didn't reroll... Because I was playing Driven Assimilator. I also found the omnicodex and while neither made great pops, they were still pops, and their biological and technological distinctiveness was added to our own, in our quest for perfection.

  • @HcgRandon
    @HcgRandon2 жыл бұрын

    Loved the video, great and massively useful content as always, however if I may offer a bit of constructive criticism. As someone who is not super familiar with the artifacts and since each tier added all items from that tier at the start. I wasn't super sure which icon referred to which artifact description (if you went left to right or right to left). Might just be a me issue, as I think the formula for these is left to right, bottom to top, but just wanted to point that out :)

  • @MontuPlays

    @MontuPlays

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ah okay! Yes so I read them out from left to right (like a book) and then bottom to top (not like a book). I may add words in future lists for clarity!

  • @N1ghthavvk

    @N1ghthavvk

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MontuPlays You could also add a visual indicator like an arrow or something more nicely animated (of course that's a chunk of work).

  • @-loki-7727
    @-loki-77272 жыл бұрын

    If you use the Archaeology Story Pack mod, you can get the Galatron through the Axis of the Planet dig site. I remember getting it at one point but not how. One of my neighbors just got it in my current game so I was able to observe to find out what happened. Luckiest AI got four of the best (ruined world, rain world, isolated world and axis of the planet). Fun mod if you have not tried, it's in the steam workshop.

  • @rainyeevee4047
    @rainyeevee404711 ай бұрын

    Prethoryn queen is now actually pretty good, and you don't have to beat the crisis to get it. Sometime during the crisis galaxy wide event spawns that let's you get it if you clear cetrain enemy system. And the "small fleet" i got from this was way over 250k power fleet, my second (after federation fleet) biggest fleet.

  • @gameslayer404
    @gameslayer4042 жыл бұрын

    I feel quite lucky! I got the galatron, rubricator , khans throne, javorian pox, and the head of zarqlan. All in my first ever game.

  • @nathanmckay2998
    @nathanmckay29982 жыл бұрын

    I just got the galatron in my playthrough, I didn’t know it was that hard to get!

  • @cheato1163
    @cheato11632 жыл бұрын

    If you havent already done so a "How to find the relics on my relic tierlist" video would be nice.

  • @verdantsquire950
    @verdantsquire9502 жыл бұрын

    I remember getting the head of zarqlan, it was after 4 or 5 wars against the spiritualist fallen empire and after i was slaughtering their fleets.

  • @FasterthanLight11
    @FasterthanLight11 Жыл бұрын

    Can confirm. Was lucky enough to get Cybrex and the relic world with the Rubricator. A second Relic world 5 jumps away. A ruined Dyson Sphere AND ruined Megashipyard in my 40 system sphere. Was rolling two ecuminopolises and a single ringworld and rebuilt Dyson Sphere before 2300 in a 0.25x habitable world game. Best unmodded game I ever had

  • @apolloaerospace7773
    @apolloaerospace77732 жыл бұрын

    With Zarqulans Head you are also allowed to settle on the holy worlds around the spiritualist fallen empire. The Rubricator does not generate a size 25 relic world, the size is random, but their might be an aditional lower limit, my last rubricator world was size 17.

  • @sampy901
    @sampy9012 жыл бұрын

    Surveyor is great for small empires because you can get things like a value of 6 gas deposit, and then it goes off again for free a few years later

  • @andrewleah1983
    @andrewleah1983 Жыл бұрын

    I do love the War Forge artefact.

  • @Cantatio411
    @Cantatio4112 жыл бұрын

    You should bump up the crystal one, because the path to it gives you psionic theory, so if you find the arch site early, it's a lot more powerful.

  • @BionicTem
    @BionicTem2 жыл бұрын

    The surveyor should be higher up IMO, it gives you more than one deposit, usually about two per activation and also it can give you large deposits of strategic resources which save you having to make refineries

  • @denizhartmann6796
    @denizhartmann67962 жыл бұрын

    Hold up! How is it possible that someone does not accept the worm into their hearts and minds???!!!

  • @matiasfermandois264
    @matiasfermandois2642 жыл бұрын

    The surveyor it's forced to reveal resources, it even gives resources to segments of rings. That is why I think it should be in B tier.

  • @JimPekarek
    @JimPekarek2 жыл бұрын

    I got Blade of the Huntress for the first time in my current playthrough, and good god it's fantastic, especially combined with Rapid Deployment. It's a huge tactical advantage, especially when you're fighting a war on multiple fronts.

  • @adrienneladd8375
    @adrienneladd83752 жыл бұрын

    I've gotten the Javarian Pox about 50 years into the game, which was nice at that point, at least the leader lifespan increase was at that point.

  • @GemberGeintje
    @GemberGeintje2 жыл бұрын

    I got the Last Baol relic as an aquatic hivemind with the Hydrocentric Ascension Perk.... at the least the 10% pop growth was nice.

  • @grayrook8637
    @grayrook86375 ай бұрын

    Now in defense of the head I think it is A tier because (not sure if this was a later patch maybe) the fleets scale up nicely using it at every opportunity or almost every opportunity so if you get it early enough it cam be amazing. Also withthè second artifact activation from Astral actions it got a good bit better.

  • @gallyxinioch2102
    @gallyxinioch21022 жыл бұрын

    I got the Galatron once, i was a Rogue Sevitor with 3 passed resolutions down the Greater Good and a ton of bio-trophies. Suffice to say my diplomatic weight went bonkers so i just made the community into the Galactic Empire :D

  • @rudolf4085
    @rudolf40852 жыл бұрын

    In my opinion, head of zarqlan is one of the best relics out there, for 1 reason: you are able to trade with the spiritualist fallen empire… I have gotten it many times and traded all my resources for alloys. The fallen empire has a massive stockpile of resources and is usually cheaper than buying it from the market, though you can only really use stragetic resources. But usually you gen get over 100k+ alloys for relatively cheap

  • @tyrannosauruscock
    @tyrannosauruscock2 жыл бұрын

    The prethoryn brood queen is my favorite simply because it is awesome to get a prethoryn fleet.

  • @Sephiroth144
    @Sephiroth1442 жыл бұрын

    The Head of Zarqlan can be really powerful if you get it early- and even late game, can make some great smaller fleets (for patrols or to leave a FE fleet at the homeworld and build up every decade). Admittedly, the current run I got it, I'm running Rogue Servitors, so not worried about the Spiritalist issue- but I could see that being an issue in a non-Spiritual/non-gestalt/Hive empire. (Would probably put it at A-Tier, if a Spiritialism Empire or that ethic attraction is moot) Also, for Machine Empires, the Gaia World bonuses still apply- so the Last Baol is more beneficial than just the society research bonus. Lastly, the S+ Tier is Bubbles, right?

  • @blahmaster6k
    @blahmaster6k2 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact about the surveyor that you didn't mention in the section on it: it doesn't just trigger once and give you one deposit, while it's cooling down you will continue getting random surveyor events every so often that reveal more resources each time. So it's better than it seems, though if that makes it good enough to go up a tier is doubtful.

  • @trashmammal9562
    @trashmammal95622 жыл бұрын

    I once rolled for the Galatron organically and it was the coolest thing ever. I didnt even know it existed

  • @spankmymoomoo
    @spankmymoomoo2 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, outside of tier consideration, surveyor is my favourite artifact. Having a lower cool down and kind of okay activation that only costs 500 energy rather than the influence that I usually find is at a premium means that if I have a surveyor I will ALWAYS have a relic activating at all times. surveyor when I have nothing else good enough to warrant the influence, or not enough influence to spare,something else once the shorter cooldown finishes.

  • @TheMasterPandaBear
    @TheMasterPandaBear2 жыл бұрын

    I agree with the list, I would be tempted to upgrade the Surveyor to B tier because it has a chance to activate more than once and because it doesn't cost influence but as the game advances it does lose its value.

  • @RobBCactive
    @RobBCactive2 жыл бұрын

    I think there's probably an error about the Rubricator world, sometimes it was very small to the point where all the district blockers on it totally stalled growth. It was documented in the Wiki as being between quite a wide range. I haven't found quickly the state at the time of the video, but I did report the issue and they altered the minimum growth and I never heard anything about "fixes" to the event.

  • @migah139
    @migah1392 жыл бұрын

    had to add a comment about "the surveyor" relic. it CAN add more than one during its duration. its low cooldown and cost makes it easy to just use constantly, and sometimes it can pop out 2-3 resources during its "cooldown". which is kiiiiiinda implied by the wording of it. edit: 2400 hours played and have seen the galatron 3 times. earlier today even! edit2: the chain for the rubricator VERY rarely spawns a 20+ relic world. its mostly size 12-16. and almost exclusively inside another empire. i would estimate maybe 20% of the time its possible to get the system without going to war for it

  • @Xadhoom80
    @Xadhoom802 жыл бұрын

    I rather like the psionic archive, getting the Zroni precursor is usually enough for me to chose it for my ascension even if i had planned otherwise, you can often end up with 2 bonuses from the shroud at the same time, i feel the higher chance for positive outcomes makes psionic a good ascension path. better shields ain't bad either, just too bad you basically need FE tech to use them well.

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