Steidten wants €30m Brazilian wonderkid at Hammers & Why Bruno rejected West Ham | Transfer rumours
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Geo discusses the latest transfer rumours including Tim Steidten chasing a €30m Brazilian wonderkid, why Fabricio Bruno has rejected West Ham United, Maxime Estève, Jacob Greaves, Jota Silva and the player Geo really wants The Hammers to bid for
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Im currently in Brazil and yesterday i was the only one not wearing a Flamengo shirt at a BBQ (im a three hour flight away from Rio) none of them want Bruno to leave but they know his dream is to play in Europe. The alleged offer wasnt much more than he is earning at the moment and he rejected it due to the higher cost of living in London.
@TeddySalad
27 күн бұрын
I know I'd struggle to live in London on 15 grand a Week, Oh sorry I meant a year.
@Terrordanger
27 күн бұрын
Are they confident in him with his ball at the feet coming forward? And with tackles too?
@Terrordanger
27 күн бұрын
@@TeddySaladwhere do you live? Rent is 1500 a month in London minimum.
@polyglot8
27 күн бұрын
And the worst part is you can't even say there's less of a chance of your home getting burgled in England while you're playing than in Brazil.
Everyone is looking for that hidden gem, especially in places like Brazil, whereas Borussia Dortmund is in the final of the Champions League with a squad full of Premier League rejects: Sancho (Man Utd), Emre Can (Liverpool), Maatsen (Chelsea), Sabitzer (Man Utd.), Haller (West Ham).
@Poikka65
27 күн бұрын
Wouldn't it be brilliant I f haller scored the winner , the would rub salt towards moyes ...
I am literally flabbergasted that we offered a Brazilian international 15k a week!! It’s taking the p!$$ out of him. Yes you start low but that’s ridiculous, it makes us look like chancers, looking to exploit the player. He’s probably fuming, he’s not stupid, he will know we pay our kids that.
@elduderino7767
28 күн бұрын
it's probably closer to 30k pounds at week, which is usually a very good offer for a player in the brazilians league, they are usually on 5-10k he is asking for premiership wages which takes the gloss away from the deal, when you are looking in brazil you aren't paying those wages unless the player is in really high demand or something really special
@tonyfarrelly1432
27 күн бұрын
We weren't offering him any more than he was already earning and on a shorter contract according to the local media. Guessing cost of living in London is a fair bit more than even the priciest places in Brazil. Maybe not a surprise he wasn't up for making himself poorer to play for us + factor in his family situation. What is a surprise (maybe) is that we don't seem to have done some basic homework
@Moyesiah123
27 күн бұрын
@@elduderino7767 apparently he is one of the best cbs in the league so you would expect him to want a big wage considering his age. he has earnt it.
@elduderino7767
27 күн бұрын
@@Moyesiah123 as of 22/23 season the highest paid footballer in brazil is duda, from the same club, who is on 15k/wk this guy is probably on 10k/wk yes london is expensive, but the cost of living is irrelevant when you are talking about these wages let alone 20 - 30k a week now if you wanted you own harem of the highest class prostitutes following you everywhere with coke on silver platers then sure, but that doesn't have anything to do with the cost of living he'd be insane to reject 20/30k and it is a excellent offer he is unlikely to receive elsewhere, unless MAYBE he gains more interest after a very successful copa america - doesn't even seem likely to play unless there are injuries tim needs to move on, can't deal with clubs/agents/players that constantly move the goal posts, it sends the wrong message to the market and makes every future deal 10x more difficult this is not the old west ham where we have a target/name and no one else, tim has a list of players that fit a profile, we move on, clubs/agents/players will so learn not to reject good offers from west ham
@DC-uf6ve
27 күн бұрын
@@Moyesiah123he's earned it in Brazil, but that sort of money isn't on offer in Brazil. He is unproven here and is therefore a risk. It's all a balancing act and maybe he wants us to take more risk than we're comfortable with. I wouldn't want to be the one to tell him though, looks an absolute brute!
Has he told these players that Moyes has gone?
@arc516
28 күн бұрын
😂😂
I read an interesting article about the transfer market from South America to Europe. Basically, it said one of the main reasons there are so many Brazilian players (other than the quality) in the Premier League is because all the actors in Brazil, like the teams, the agents, the Brazilian Football Federation, etc. are all working in a harmonious way - facilitating, clearing red tape, and not putting up roadblocks to transfers. On the down side, the transparency of the market means there are few really hidden gems in Brazil. By contrast, the article said that Argentina is a complete and utter mess institutionally - and this goes a long way to explaining why there are so few Argentines currently in the Premier League (I count only two starters: McAllister and Martinez). The article says that the Premier League team that is capable of "unlocking the secret" of successfully navigating the bureaucracy there will reap huge benefits in terms of value for money. Hence, Argentina is a place where there are truly hidden gems to be found.
@InfamyJunkie
28 күн бұрын
Cristian Romero (Spurs), Lisandro Martinez (Man U), Enzo Fernandez (Chelsea). there's 3 more Argentinian starters for you.
@polyglot8
28 күн бұрын
@@InfamyJunkie Thanks, I knew there were a few more, but I wasn't quite awake yet, here on the other side of the pond. 🙂
Tim the Scarf has gone full UNICEF out there in Brazil with the transfer kitty!
watching his highlights they are from all over the pitch, watching how he carries the ball he isn't bothered about where the pressure is coming from or where the space is, the game looks like it passes him in slow motion, how he adapts to pressure, even how/when he takes his shots, like last minute flicks after the keeper already commits, more than just a speed merchant wouldn't be surprised if this guy is considered the bigger talent by tim but we went for wesley due to the lower risk/price, but with the higher demands other options come into play i wouldn't be too worried about any of these signings landing, it's not like before where every club knew we had a target and no backup, tim is chasing profiles not names, he likely has a long list that he's working his way through as clubs get educated that west ham is no longer a club that'll get rinsed due to a lack of knowledge/options
Wan Bissaka on the right and Sessegnon on the left for the combined fee of £10m, its a no brainer
@davidclerihew3539
28 күн бұрын
Would United really let Wan Bissaka go for £10m? That would be steal of the season!!!
@t.c.4321
28 күн бұрын
He would be on massive wages... even if he takes a cut
@jys5130
28 күн бұрын
Wan bissaka is far from an upgrade on Coufal if anything he’s worse
@footballready2281
28 күн бұрын
Sessagon i LIKE
60-70k kills the bruno deal imho, can't see tim struggling to find better value on a 5 year contract
I reckon this kid is intended to be Kudus’s replacement, probably next year. It’s a big outlay for a kid who probably isn’t going to play a ton. No matter how good he is or how many games he’s already played, he’s still only 18.
Geo, our Tim has been on more Brazilian landing strips than Lucas Paqueta !!
Bruno was supposed to be a done deal a week ago now he not coming!
@HammersChat
28 күн бұрын
Football, things can change quick. Fwiw apparently it was all ‘agreed’ but changed last minute due to an agent getting involved
I don't know how much West Ham offered to Fabricio Bruno, but he earns about £27.000 net per week at Flamengo... if West Ham offered 15k, he would never accept that offer!
@DC-uf6ve
27 күн бұрын
I think your numbers are all over the place here
Guilherme looks like a real talent. Palmeiras are great at producing quality players.
I'm starting to believe Tim is going over to brasil for the women with the number of times he's come back empty-handed
@Poikka65
28 күн бұрын
Its not his fault , he's going over there with a budget , plus just coz we love ❤️ out team don't mean that other players have too
@its_me_sam9226
28 күн бұрын
@@Poikka65 it's a lighthearted joke mate
@rayburke-xg8yr
28 күн бұрын
He wasn't empty handed when he was in Brazil. Have you seen the boobs on those chicks. 😁
@connorseaturtle3162
28 күн бұрын
😂
@mikemack316
28 күн бұрын
Brilliant 😂
It’s not good policy to have a vast difference in wages between workers (players) could cause resentment
last Hull City signing has turned out well COYI
Interesting stuff to which I can't add anything. It is all so fluid, isn't it. Until the signature is on the dotted line, nothing can be believed
im a little bit worried aout out transfer stratergy tbh , but im keeping it to myself ....
@HammersChat
28 күн бұрын
Do tell, it’s simply your opinion, that’s all.
@MarknoblesAcidhouseparty
28 күн бұрын
@@HammersChat its very ballsy , are squad is very thin and we need players to come in the first team and make a difference out the gate ... players in the 15 million to 25 million bracket are gambles as far as im concered... we really gotta hope stidten is the real deal with recruitment . coz of he gets this wrong we are in trouble..
Im getting seriously worried about next season,our transfer targets are ridiculous. Messing about in Brazil should be done at the end of the window when we have our core business done,not at the start when we have a squad of 12 players.
If my memory serves me correctly, we have tried this before many moon's ago. And our manager at time opted not to have him. That was neymar. Please let's take a gamble and get one. English taxi for players is one thing but Brazilian taxes equals £££££££££
@StonyStevenson75
28 күн бұрын
I may be wrong but I think it was either a case of not offering Santos enough money (I'm pretty sure we had bids of around 12-15m rejected) or Neymar didn't want to join. I also believe that Zola was the manager at the time. I agree that WH should pay the asking price for at least one of these two players.
@StonyStevenson75
28 күн бұрын
Just looked on wiki In 2010, Santos rejected a £12 million bid for him from English Premier League team West Ham United, and later an offer from another English club, Chelsea, reported to be in the region of £20 million. Despite the unwillingness of Santos to sell and Neymar himself stating: "I'm focused only on Santos", his agent, Wagner Ribeiro, indicated that Neymar's career was elsewhere, stating: "He wants to become the best player in the world. The chances of him doing that while playing in Brazil are zero." One year later Neymar said, in an interview with the Daily Telegraph, that he had been happy with Chelsea's interest in him as it was a "dream" of his "to play in Europe", while also stating that at the time it had been the right decision to stay in Brazil.
Jota Silva looks good I hope we get him
Ffs why can't we just sign then announce it
@PaddyP-mr5ww
28 күн бұрын
because the window hasn't opened yet. Relax
@user-zp5ji1uq1h
28 күн бұрын
@@PaddyP-mr5ww indeed but just say nish and go get them stick a shirt on them and tell tell the fcuking world and let him say I've loved west ham all my life lol Init blud Oops sorry thought I was on AFTV
@PaddyP-mr5ww
28 күн бұрын
@@user-zp5ji1uq1h fo sho
100% Agreed with AWB He's great defensively, one of the best. Going forward tho....
@johnnycunningham3194
27 күн бұрын
The thing is, with him we could allow Emerson to spend all game attacking while he supports the centrebacks with the left-sided cb covering
Surprised we’re not looking at Smith-Rowe. Young, homegrown, quick, left sided & Arsenal seem to be open to offers.
I'm baffled by the 15k offer for a top a Brazilian defender...
Are u guys excited 😊
Gio what do you think about knightbridge being released ??
Moyes was a problem last summer it was no secret he had Kai boshed many transfers tied Tim's hands on everything for k. P
@HammersChat
28 күн бұрын
But then does that mean Moyes was correct with Kudus or Alvarez……? If he’s responsible but the bad then surely he’s also responsible for the good? (I think all 3 can take credit and blame for the good and the bad over both windows).
@lewis4929
28 күн бұрын
Whether he wanted Osman or not, if Sean Whetstone is to believed then Steidten recommended 11 players and Moyes didn't want any of them other than Phillips. Maybe that was the final nail in his coffin. I treat all of this with a pinch of salt though
@fredtraylen4311
28 күн бұрын
@@HammersChat the impression I got was that Moyes was not keen on either kudos or Alverez but once they got there chance he couldn't drop them well he did with Alverez at end of season.
@HammersChat
28 күн бұрын
@@fredtraylen4311 as always, depends on what and who you believe. Nobody knows for sure so I’ll never say you are wrong either! Regardless, I will happily agree it wasn’t the perfect set up, especially in Jan and it needs improving this window
@fredtraylen4311
28 күн бұрын
@@HammersChat 👍
Jota Silva should be our number one priority, He plays like Jack grealish at Villa just before the Man City move, as soon as Vitoria win possesion he's the man they look to pass to and creat something. He has the joint most goals per game in the league with Pedro Goncalves of porto (Highly rated expensive player) and just a few less assists, but when you consider the overall quality of porto's team I think Jota silva would replicate his numbers in a big 3 side. His natural position is on the left but can play anywhere across the front three and I just think he has everything you need to be a very very good player in the premier league. Will be absolutely gutted if we dont get him after researching him and catching a couple of his big games from this year
@HammersChat
27 күн бұрын
Thank you Johnny, really appreciate that
If Bruno Fabrizio wants 90k, I think we should give a contract offer of around 30-50K but with potential increases dependent on performance/ Games played. If he rocks up and isn't what we hope, then we aren't paying too much for a rotation option but if he plays and plays well, then he probably deserves that kinda ballpark of wage
@DC-uf6ve
27 күн бұрын
Or just tell him to piss off because he ain't nowhere near 90k good. But 50k seems reasonable, we really low balled him didn't we? We were looking for a bargain and he doesn't look like such a bargain now. Perhaps the risk/reward ratio is beyond our tolerance at 50k+?
No, Walker-Peters in exchange for JWP
Hi Geo. I miss your pink book. I have optimism that we will sign decent players I’d like to see Greaves or Kilman join but I know nothing, I’m looking forward to next season because we’ve got a head coach and therefore there will be changes, at least I am hopeful for the differences Lopetegui will instigate.
@HammersChat
28 күн бұрын
Poundland no longer sells the pink notebooks ☹️ I do keep an eye out but not been there for over a year now.
@keithydream83
28 күн бұрын
@@HammersChatall that KZread money got you shopping in marks and Spencer’s? 😂
@HammersChat
28 күн бұрын
@@keithydream83 oh am still in Poundland, the book is no longer there
Despite the pending household additions and the understandable financial concerns, I'm still not convinced the Bruno deal is over. Add 15-20k per month to allay the young couples' fears. I trust Steidten to turn this around. In reality, you ask someone to relocate their growing family halfway around the world for the same money they get at home. It makes no sense; it's amateurish.
How can you expect an international player to leave his home country with his family at his peak at no extra income Surely we knew we had to improve his wages
Funny how with all these premier league managers jobs going Moyes has not been mentioned once
As long as these Brazilian players are not from islands 😂
@HammersChat
28 күн бұрын
If he was then perhaps he could accept the lower wage
@markblondrage2776
28 күн бұрын
@@HammersChat if they earn less wages they might start picking up yellows 😱😂
@HammersChat
28 күн бұрын
@@markblondrage2776 maybe that’s why Tim wants Brazilians, he’s the ringleader for the bets
@markblondrage2776
28 күн бұрын
@@HammersChat 😂 all because Sullivan won’t give him a pay rise 😂😂
Will do video on season tickets concession?
@HammersChat
28 күн бұрын
Next week. I’ve covered it already on a couple of videos but planning to do a much bigger video on it as it’s p!ssed me off
There just always seems to be hundreds of young Brazilian players every year
A few of these players seem to be on the mature side
What a mess Sulivan has ALLOWED (was it not City Geo) Moyes to leave us in Geo. Bissaka would be a fantastic addition.
ii sign Guilherme on football manager if that counts for anything
Lyon have taken the Barcelona approach and taken out a credit facility on the basis of their future TV rights, European revenue and stadium sponsorship... 👀
@kwhufc5769
28 күн бұрын
That should not be allowed imo
Agree Wan Bissakka is a no brainer .
@derelict06
28 күн бұрын
Woulda been great under Moyes, but does not fit Lop at all
@paulmccarthy6663
28 күн бұрын
Has no brain you mean. Atrocious going forward or with the ball at his feet.
Nice geo my son and wan bassaka a no brainer for me . 10mill a steal too
Geo, if Tim is limited to offering Bruno £16k a week, he...... 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😂😂😂😂😂😂. Sorry mate... Can't take this serious. Must be a smoke screen to put other clubs off the trail of who WH r truly chasing.
Quite frankly I'm sick of this time of the season. Every day it's a new person we are linked with, have a bid in for, lose out to someone else or lose interest generally in certain players. We are all fed this line that Jlo wants players in before 1st July, yet Sullivan has form here. He ALWAYS gets players in late after pre season as he can't be arsed to pay early for them. The reality is most players contracts end June 30th, so outgoings and incomings won't start in earnest until July 1st. Until then we have to endure a slew of new players we want. This is no reflection on you guys, it's just the way the market is.
Heard theres a bloke sleeping rough under tower bridge we been linked with, and that bloke who plays for basildon and anyone with a fucking pulse, just wait till it has been announced we signed the bloke before hoing on about it
@HammersChat
27 күн бұрын
No. Mark we are a fan channel. That’s like saying fans cannot discuss ANY transfers until it’s done.
Please pull back on signings it's getting the same as every year,just wait until it happens.(yes then no)
West Ham have a limited budget to get pen to paper so has to hit early. One Brazilian would be positive imo.
we should seriously consider going for Emile Smith Rowe again, unhappy with arteta and looking to leave arsenal, he is getting cheaper every window, would be excellent on our left or a 10, it looks like he could go for as little as 20m
@farkanumar4026
28 күн бұрын
He’s not good enough .
@paulobrien6919
28 күн бұрын
Can see Arsenal playing hard ball on a price to us, couldn't really blame them, even though all sides are satisfied with the Rice deal
@elduderino7767
28 күн бұрын
@@farkanumar4026 he's definitely good enough and if he's available for around 20m he'd be an absolute bargain
@elduderino7767
28 күн бұрын
@@paulobrien6919 had a falling out with arteta earlier this year and looks like both player and manager want to part ways with the lack of minutes and some fitness issues his price is rock bottom right now and doesn't have a chance of getting ahead of odegaard who is absolute key for arsenal we should put in a cheeky bid for him, he'd be a steal for 20m or so, can't see them asking 30-40m like before with all things considered just imagine the amount of goals coming from an attacking midfield of kudus, bowen and ES
Have we ever bought any of the wonder kids that we’ve been linked to in my 55 years supporting West Ham? 🤷♂️
@hmgdp07
28 күн бұрын
Joey Beachamp, Dani, Savio 😐
Brazil is risky you have to be careful many seem to be adapt better in Spain.
Chances of it happening 😂😂😂
How much you willing to bet on Scotland to score a goal in the first game, I really hope you win, reality the won't but be interesting to know how much you'd wager on an even money bet from myself
You have to remember that West Ham had a divided reputation the money is good but the football was dreadful so it must be hard for TIM TO SELL West ham to players ⚒⚒⚒
Don't believe in any of em more BS
As i said Geo, this is beginning to look a lot like the Pellegrini fuck up , hope im wrong !!
We won’t sign anyone don’t think we have money
It’s a bit of a bugger, For a lot of people? They can’t even blame David Moyes for the situation with. BRUNO
We don't need an expensive kid proven talent ward prowse kudos alveraz good buys proven talent were not in place to gamble on expensive gamble
I’m already sick of this window.
Haha nothing changes, mickeymouse again.
It’s not good policy to have a vast difference in wages between workers (players) could cause resentment