The Dollar Store Starships: Miranda (Constitution Parts) Nebula (Galaxy Parts) Centaur (Excelsior parts) Yeager (Intrepid parts) What other “dollar store starships” are there?

@CypressConroy

3 жыл бұрын

New Orleans galaxy and markers

@thefishoftruth235

3 жыл бұрын

Freedom class. It's just a galaxy primary hull with one warp nascelle

@wirbelass4212

3 жыл бұрын

The Challenger class, it’s made from parts of a Galaxy and a submarine

Could maintain a speed of warp 9.6 for 12 hours... but more likely would maintain it for less than a second because of the lack of a deflector dish.

@chrissonofpear3657

6 жыл бұрын

And given that the DS9 Manual is lazy with reprinted and cut and pasted info...

@builder396

6 жыл бұрын

Actually Trekyards I think it was who had their own little theory that the NX-01-style deflector at the front of the saucer kept being used on later ships as well, especially ones that had no dedicated engineering hull with a deflector, except that it was covered up by a fairing and was only useful for maintaining warp flight. Whether ships with engineering hulls (like the Constitution or Excelsior) still have this auxiliary deflector in the saucer though I dont know, but the fact that on the Intrepid class such a auxiliary deflector can be clearly seen on the upper tip of the primary hull is definitely a big argument in favor of that (on VOY its called a navigational deflector usually iirc)

@Predator42ID

6 жыл бұрын

Really okay please explain to me where the deflector dish is located on non federation vessels? To paraphrase Teal'c when traveling at ftl why have windows as such speeds when you have shields. The deflector is more used as a science instrument then anything else and was likely no longer needed after shields were developed. After all none of the Federations enemies use them.

@builder396

6 жыл бұрын

A B'Rel class Bird of Prey for one has it on the underbelly facing downwards... Just as an example.

@DrewLSsix

6 жыл бұрын

builder396. The three "windows " on the front of the tos enterprise are supposed to be auxiliary deflectors, meaning that deflectors with glowing elements are not out of place in the pre movie era lol. The D has a similar feature on its lower saucer surface.

I like to think of the Centaur-class as an attempt at a Miranda-class successor ship, in line with how the Excelsior-class all but replaced the Constitution refits. Unlike how the Miranda was heavily modified from being just a Constitution-refit saucer with a pair of warp nacelles, the Centaur-class by design attempted to take advantage of the benefits of having a small profile while putting all of the starship "necessities" secondary, and attempted to condense all of the expected ship facilities into the saucer. In my head, the reason that the ship design wasn't commonly seen was because ultimately a later design by the name of the Nebula-class would not only succeed the idea of a serious Miranda-class successor, but it would do everything that the Centaur-class initially set out to do.

@jhmcd2

6 жыл бұрын

Most likely I would see a Constellation class ship coming out between this ship and the Nebula, with the Centaur type being built as an early attempt to replace the Miranda, but the Constellation being the ship that ultimately won the contract, only for both to be outclassed by the original Miranda.

@dragonknightleader1

5 жыл бұрын

I tend to think of the Centaur the way I think of the Nebula class. They had spare parts, but didn't have enough time or resources to build a full Excelsior/Galaxy ship, so they build a heavy frigate/light cruiser meant for patrol duties. As it turned out, this ship ends up in a frustrating middle position. It's more powerful than the Miranda class, but lacks the modular section the Nebula does. The result is an adequate pre-Wolf 359 patrol ship, but not much more to talk about.

@chrissonofpear1384

5 жыл бұрын

I prefer 2320 for the Ambassador. And 2356/7 for the Nebula.

@kaitlyn__L

3 жыл бұрын

@Mike DeMarco that’s interesting, I always thought of the Luna class as being an offshoot of the Akira. Probably because of the shape of the secondary hull, larger deflector, and rectangular nacelles. But there’s definitely Sovereign-class styling elements to it, while Akira looks more apiece with a Galaxy.

@chrissonofpear1384

3 жыл бұрын

@Mike DeMarco More or less, yes. Cannot be fully sure of the Ambassador, except it had a long development time. Some trials may have begun by 2318. And trying to sort registries to year of launch can also be a bit variable. I see it as averaging anywhere from 300 to 1100 ships commissioned per year, depending on era. Average maybe around 718.

You know, there are a number of Federation designs that I do like and find genuinely interesting, but at the same time, wouldn't it make a whole lot more sense to just stick with a handful of tried-and-true designs and continue building upon and modifying those ships to reach their full potential rather than constantly spewing out new ships that really don't seem to accomplish very much on their own?

I like the Centaur Type, but then again, I'm a fan of elongated nacelles in general. The overall sleekness of the design is great!

@colinantink9094

6 жыл бұрын

Julopabene so you like the Discovery?

@julopabene8736

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, sure, I think it looks neat

@MATTIUS

6 жыл бұрын

love it aswell.

@johanwittens7712

5 жыл бұрын

I always liked the centaur too. It looks sleek yet simple, and logical and functional, unlike many modern designs (especially in games) with all the useless curves and detailing. And the elongated nacelles work fine in this design, just like in the excelsior which is also one of my all time favorites. Hate discovery though, that ship has no elegance to it with the hard triangle shape in the rear, the weird and never seen before holes in the dish that make no sense at all, and so on. Just because you like elongated nacelles doesn't mean they alyways work. As always with design it is how everything fits together and works together to form a good looking whole. For me it fits and works in the centaur and the excelsior, but it doesn't in the discovery.

@mavendorf121

4 жыл бұрын

@@johanwittens7712 actually the vengence dreadnought from the kelvin timeline had holes also in the saucer section.. similar to how the discovery ship has on the saucer of the ship. id recommend you watch startrek into darkness and look closely at the vengence ship in that movie. also the discovery was loosely based on the klingons Kt'inga class battlecruiser if you look at the D7 battlecrusiers you will notice a similar design at the back.

One of my favorite kitbash ships. Love the fact the hanger bay is in the front of the ship for some reason. If there's another post-Voyager show I'd love to see this class of ship pop up just to get more info on it.

I’ve always thought the Centaur is a great looking little ship. Trek has a knack for throwing together a ‘new’ ship from bits of studio models & it being a hit with fans.

Wait... a "minor" refit included UPSCALING the ship and systems to the size of a larger ship? I swear, Federation engineers just call everything "minor refits" for bureaucratic purposes.

@tba113

6 жыл бұрын

Boisegang Haha, you know, there might be a theory behind this... Okay, try this headcanon on for size: Starfleet shipbuilding is 24th-century pork-barrel spending shacking up with crooked contractors. "Oh, man, well, I know you just wanted us to upgrade the warp nacelles and refit the forward phaser banks, but just _look_ at the state of this warp core! We're gonna have to rip out the whole thing, and all the new ones coming out of Utopia Planitia use completely different fittings. That means we need to remodel half the Engineering section. Getting the main computer to deal with the new warp core's quantum stabilizer field, well, it's just simpler to replace that than try to upgrade the old one. And don't get me started on these old phasers...! No, this is gonna be a much bigger job than we originally quoted you for..." And the politicians who approve these "refits"? Well, any politicians with lots of Starfleet Academy graduates in their constituency would absolutely _throw_ _themselves_ at that kind of project. Landing a bunch of endless "refitting" contracts will mean jobs and resources flowing into their constituency, and influence and prestige flowing the politician's way. Even in a money-less society, there's no politician who will resist that for long. So, politicians get reelected, a bunch of Starfleet Academy STEM grads are kept off the street (because let's face it, if they weren't busy working for Starfleet, they'd be merrily building doomsday weapons instead), and hey, they occasionally even fix a given ship's problems.

@davidjames1068

6 жыл бұрын

Historically it has been claimed that when a Navy could not approval for the funds for a new ship, they would do a 'grand refit' which would actually be cover for scrapping the old ship and building a new vessel ( slowly to hide the expense ). But this does not conflict with your theory.

@kamdenbarclay486

6 жыл бұрын

david james look at the U.S.S. Texas BB-35, from her original fit in the late 19teens, into 1922 she basically remained unchanged, but with the "refit" in 22 when she emerged 2 years later Texas was essentially a different vessel from the boiler plates up.

@tonebonebgky2

6 жыл бұрын

tba113 crooked contractors and conniving politicians exist in the 24th century and in the Terran sector no less what's the point of living in paradise if it's the same old same old?

@lokalnyork

6 жыл бұрын

They would be great car salesman.

It's also important to note the major role the Centaur type played in the decisive victory over my cynicism. I love this scrappy little ship.

Thanks for putting this out despite all the hardships you're going through.

The Deflector Dish could have been spread across the forward part of the bow. If not, it could not travel anywhere at warp. (The Miranda Class did not have a central deflector dish, either.)

Almost 30K really happy for you Lore

another ship of the "kt'biyashie" class

@azraelswrd

6 жыл бұрын

My favorite is still the Nebula. LOL Best kitbash ever

@skyeplaysgames6734

6 жыл бұрын

azraelswrd mines the Miranda nebula and tbh I have a soft spot for the Yeager

@Arlyon9999

6 жыл бұрын

Mystique the cute blue alien Oh no the Yeager was a hideous monstrosity. Maquis raider butt glued onto a voyager saucer? Not exactly the most uh “creative” design.

@GaryTisdaleFungkSta1

6 жыл бұрын

On my Mud Duck ugly ships of the Federation list too... Yeager, Franklin, the nacelles on JJ Enterprise (Don't like engineering either) and still think Discovery is ugly, though I like the designs of the other ships. When I first saw the Shenzhou it kinda reminded me of a Centaur, or an NX version of it.

@skyeplaysgames6734

6 жыл бұрын

I like to think of the Yeager like the falcon. A over pimped fighter/cargo ship (the falcon did become very much combat oriented in it's life from a cargo ship to a smugglers one) and that's why I like it

during the war, starfleet rush built tons of ships to fell in the gaps of their fleets. Many of them were a hogpog of other parts of other ships.

@chrissonofpear1384

5 жыл бұрын

Or maybe the 2330s. Registries are tricky.

i really liked the centaur class. and i hoped when we first saw this ship that it will replace the miranda. the Miranda in my opinion is aged by tng standard and is definetly old by the time ds9 dominion war begins so a replacement dos make sens

You should do the Vor’Cha class Klingon ship. At present there is no comprehensive lore video on KZread. This is a shame as I really love that ship and it’s layout. Only someone like you or space dock could do it justice. Thanks as always for the great content.

One of my favorite Federation starships, always loved the sleek design

It makes sense though. A new Workhorse Chassis comes out and they strip it down to bare essentials for what's tant amount to a 'mass production line' With the Constitution we see Miranda, Galaxy had Nebula.

If you want to see a "Frankenstein" of a ship, in STO the Centaur class is considered the equivalent of the Miranda class - along with a third type that I don't remember at the moment. When you finish the tutorial, another mini-tutorial you have to hunt down - but is optional - is going to the ship customizer. When you go to him, you can select to customize your ship. And not just what material it's made of, or what the colors & color scheme are, but what parts it's actually made of. And, when you're doing it with the Miranda class that's your original ship, you can select parts from ANY of the three that fall under the same umbrella of "Light (Lt.) Cruiser." In other words, you can make up a ship of your own design, using different parts from the three different ships. (And, if you pay the ZEN to acquire it, you can even now add Discovery's Reliant class to that, as well.) (Incidentally, Lt. Cruisers are one of the few cruiser variants - along with Battlecruisers & Dreadnought Cruisers like the Enterprise-D refit from "All Good Things...Part 2" - that can be fitted with dual cannons in the game.)

The weapon pod looks exactly the same as the Miranda class' pod (albeit backwards), but when you scale the Centaur's saucer to an Excelsior's saucer (because they too are the same), the pod is much bigger.

@hansebee

6 жыл бұрын

which has to do with the AMT ERTL kits they actually used to make this - they are not to scale so all the Miranda parts are far too large

@chrissonofpear3657

6 жыл бұрын

And it's been claimed by the model designer that he scaled it to the bridge and the pod, not the saucer and nacelles.

I love the centaur, i never got rid of it in sto just because I love it so much. Its a sleek and lethal design that just screams I'm small but I've a bigger punch than my Miranda that's built out of explodium.

@Searly255

6 жыл бұрын

They recently did a T6 version of the miranda, i use the centaur build its awesome, especially with the new dominion expansion it fits in well

@jamescooper7878

5 жыл бұрын

@@Searly255 if cryptic could update the detail for the centaur XD

@Janoha17

4 жыл бұрын

I made a light cruiser with the Centaur saucer, nacelles, and struts, with the Miranda rollbar. I really liked how it turned out, though I eentually switched to a Nova-Class.

All we really know is that it's Charlie Reynolds ship lol

@mrbreck1

6 жыл бұрын

I thought ben sisko and dax were talking and called charlie reynolds ship a centaur class. Ill have to hit that episode again on netflix. Went back and watched sisko and company in the episode "a Time to stand" but they only referred to the ships name centaur but not its class.

@schiefer1103

6 жыл бұрын

Breck ships whose classes aren't mentioned but which *are cannon are called by the first ship's mentioned and then the word 'type'.*

@OpenMawProductions

6 жыл бұрын

Canon. Not cannon.

Everything you said is, indeed, plausible. (After spending 10 years as active duty Navy, I know making "Hybrid" ship does happen, and is often effective, both for use, ease of maintenance, and cost.) My only question is: What the #@%& is with the elongated nacelles. They appear to be twice as long as the hull, and, IMHO, offer a great target.

@dragonknightleader1

5 жыл бұрын

I believe the nacelles are just Excelsior spare parts, just like the rest of the ship.

@derrickbonsell

4 жыл бұрын

I suppose that it was done to emulate the stretching graphic that ships do when shifting into warp.

One of my favorite classes of ship from Star Trek. Right up there with the Akira, Saladin and Excelsior

I friggin' love that ship. Perfect follow-up for the Miranda. Now we just need an Ambassador spin-off...

I really like it, looks fast and deadly, prettier than many more known classes...

Somehow I kinda like the idea of cobbling a ship together from parts of different ships. I'm imagining the result as something finicky and weird but also unique and with a lot of character. Heck, now I kinda want to see a hero ship like that: Everyone else have top of the line ship classes designed for certain things while the heroes fly around in this unholy chimera of a craft that turns out to be a bit of an ace custom.

Your videos are awesome!

I like the changes you made to the Intro :) Just your voice to take us into the video.

@LoreReloaded

6 жыл бұрын

I'm experimenting but will probably drop the scifi intro

Look at Unusualsuspex's Deviantart ortho & you'll see a small deflector, also I can see maybe enough neck to house a warp core.

If your measurement of 381 m long is correct, it could NOT be a variant of the Excelsior-class, as their saucer was 467 m in diameter (greater than the Centaur-class saucer + warp naceles). If they actually made an Excelsior variant with a 467 m diameter saucer + these rather long warp naceles (as shown at 0:27), then I think that would be really cool, and would be more of a light cruiser than a destroyer.

If your doing the Starfleet monster fleet, the next ship you do should be the Yeager class starship; an amalgamation of the Intrepid class and the Marquis Ju'Day class raider.

@OpenMawProductions

6 жыл бұрын

Uuuuuugggglyyyyy...!

We look for comments. Comments that make us reply.

I agree, it is most likely a fast response patrol class/frigate roll. It feels more like a successor to the Miranda Class. The ships were probably rolled out quite quickly and in large numbers. Personally i like the design and i could envision a few of these on patrol in packs/formations.

Cool kitbash good video

I actually had a short back-and-forth message chat with the designer of the ship on another KZread Trek page. He told me that the Centaur is basically modified parts from an Excelsior-class model.

Please do a video on the dominion war nebula class, i hear you talk about it a lot especially in the Prometheus class video

I liked the book that came with the Eaglemoss model of the Centaur. It had a bit of information on it.

I always had the impression that the Centaur would be a bit more powerful than the Miranda given that the parts used were based on the Excelsior - a ship we know could be refit to even stand up to the Defiant. In my mind this ship would have been a sort of patrol ship/destroyer. Short ranged but effective against bug ships due to the speed, maneuverability and what I assume would be superior firepower to other ships in her size bracket. Maybe it really was a response to all the Miranda’s exploding and would have seen more widespread use of the war was prolonged

It looks like a ship built for small crews and cover large areas with enough firepower to deal with trouble-makers and tools to help stranded ships, but not for exploration or particularly rough areas - instead to have enough speed to escape trouble and get reinforcements. Which puts it in a different category to the Miranda, which essentially was a cheaper version of the constitution.. which keeps making me ask why bother refitting the constitution when the Miranda was at least as capable?

I made the Starbird class. Think of the DD but with 3 nacelles. Had a Torpedo Gatlin Gun can fire a spread or on point target. 8 phasers banks, cloaking device type Xperiment ( phase into other matter plus fire while cloaked) sorta like a fast battle cruiser.

Concerning the size: if we say the saucer is the same like it is used for the Excelsior, the weapons-pod would be huge, firing torpedos with the size of a small bus. The original model utilizes the bridge module of the Constitution class, so it is more likely that the ship is not 381 m long, but rather 210 m as it was meant to be by its designer Adam Buckner. Additionally the "nacelle-struts" are actually the pylons of the Mirandas weapons pod.

Either it's a tiny ship- if you scale the kit Ash on the Miranda bridge, and torpedo pod OR it's a medium sized ship, if you scale from the Excelsior saucer. The nacelles we're made from halves of AMT Excelsior outer parts, so they're skinnier than a normal Excelsior nacelle, so those parts are not useful for scaling. Breaking down the window placement is odd too- the smaller scale means the windows are huge skylights and the Excelsior saucer size means the windows cover more than one deck. It's really a "head-cannon" ship, in that it's whichever you prefer, but I think it's probably the larger size, just because it's mission role would be greater with more power/crew/weapons.

I agree, its just a bag of spare parts that just happens to make a cool little ship. Makes since considering how many Miranda's and Excelsior star fleet was suppose to be sending to the grave yard just before the Dominion showed up (of course I am assuming it was built for the Dominion war and not for some previous conflict).

@chrissonofpear3657

6 жыл бұрын

The registry appears older, but that's not total proof, as spare registry numbers might have been left unfilled.

I want to meet the mad lad who put the shuttle bay *directly in front* of the bridge.

The ridge that runs along the length of the bottom of the torpedo bay is where the deflector dish is. When the u.s.s. Centaur was commissioned it was designed to use parts from the excelsior class and some decommissioned ships, Later as the ship type had proven itself to be a very durable, maneuverable, fast and hard hitting design it was reclassified the Centaur class. There are multiple versions of it including a destroyers, science vessels, passenger liner(personal transport) for at least one admiral, the Centaur class is best used in packs, it's not uncommon to find the Centaur class in groups of 3 or more ships patrolling federation territories.

I like that there is some sort of duality in ship designs... The Constitution (Refit) and the Miranda. (I wonder if the Reliant seen in ST2 was a Miranda Refit) The Excelsior and the Centaur. The Galaxy and the Nebula. One is the full design and the other is a smaller equivalent - possibly weaker but faster/easier to produce. Makes me wonder what the Ambassador class and Sovereign class version of these twin-designs look like if they exist.

@MrJay_White

6 жыл бұрын

they do in one of the trek mods for sins of a solar empire

@Arlyon9999

6 жыл бұрын

Tezunegari I’m not 100% Sure but the USS Titan might be the Sovreign’s “Nebula”.

@anndra8687

6 жыл бұрын

I always thought the Akira class was the budget Sovereign, for when the Federation wants to punch with it's left hand.

@Tezunegari

6 жыл бұрын

@Andrew Thomson The Akira lacks the similarities with the Sovereign. If you look up the other pairs you'll see the similarities between the "twins". Constitution and Miranda have the same saucer, nacelles and torpedo launcher. Galaxy and Nebula are essentially the same but assembled differently. Personally I think the "cheap Sovereign-twin" would look alot like the Centaur, just with Sovereign parts.

@chrissonofpear3657

6 жыл бұрын

Adam Buckner, the ship's designer, says the Excelsior saucer is a co-incidence, and the scale should be to the bridge and torpedo pod. So it would be almost 211 metres long instead.

I think it's a really cool looking Starship it's one of my favourite i have a model of the Centaur Great Ship

If you look closely, the nacelles on the Centaur were created using a single Excelsior nacelle, split lengthwise down the middle with both halves rotated 90 degrees

I've heard it was built out of the excelsior soucer section as a quick fix when the saucer would emergency separate or if the engineering section was to badly damaged.

@kaitlyn__L

3 жыл бұрын

Makes sense. Stick a secondary hull onto any old saucer and send em back out fighting. You can stick another saucer on that engineering section once you fix it. They’re all modular, detachable, and interchangeable anyway. Saucer, bridge, nacelles, secondary hull. So they should use standard fittings across the board already. So might as well piece together the working parts that came back from the front as quick as you can before working on the more seriously damaged stuff.

The designer, Adam Buckner, and the Eaglemoss scaling confirm a length of 210 meters. Big enough to handle one or maybe two attack ships on even footing, but not three. Starfleet probably hastily put together working components within the specifications of light patrol combatant or light perimeter action ship, and put enough frames and crews together to hold the line while the larger ships are being overtaken. Defiants and Sabers were not being produced fast enough and Ju'Day raiders probably had trouble in 1 on 1 engagements against Hidecki.

The "actual" ship was built from model kit parts (Excel and Reliant) which were different scales. But for a Frankenfleet ship, it didn't look bad.

Kinda looks like the result of espionage. The configuration is so similar to the TOS Romulan Warbird with some extra bulk added.

The Centaur class was also in a ST videogame for PS2. I believe it was Star trek academy. Was really a nice game.

Given that we only see it once, it's high amount of weapons, and relatively high speed it seems like it would serve as a patrol cutter.

@LoreReloaded

6 жыл бұрын

I could see that..

All ships have deflectors, they are just not as big and sophisticated as large exploration ships. The ships with small deflectors like the Miranda are meant to be used in known space. With only small particle debris in their way, mostly in shipping lanes as escorts, and as patrol ships in federation systems. The defiant class has a large deflector probably because it was meant to go into enemy territory, usually unknown space. It is most likely used to repel debris from their victims as it is used it tight attacks.

honesty the centaur type is the best kit bash ship ive seen

If it's got the excelsior saucer section then it's got the secondary deflector dish it'll be like 5 or 10 windows on the underside of the disc

Am I correct in thinking the DS9 episode where this ship features is the one where the crew steals a Jem'Hadar fighter that has been fitted with a Breen energy dampening weapon? They are trying to get the example back to Starfleet when they are attacked unwittingly by a friendly Centaur class ship and forced to disable it in order to continue their mission.

To me in my head cannon the Centaur class was made as a result of the dominion war. The federation was desperate they were loosing ground, resources and loosing ships faster than they could replace them or the crews. This ship was to be mass produced, using spare parts of the work horses of the fleet the Excelsior and Miranda classes. It was a small ship that could "dogfight" the bug ship and reduce losses. Yes intrepid or galaxy class ships would last longer but they had large crews and more resources, and the federation needed to patch the losses it had taken, this ship could take up defensive and patrol positions to free up the cruisers and heavy ships for major fleet actions, basically thrown together as a stop gap during the bad months of the War.

It’s one of my favorite ships in STO.

As the excelsior was what supplanted the constitution, the Centaur is what was supposed to supplant the Miranda, and both were supplanted by the Nebula if you want to go by the belief that all similarly configured ships supplant each other sucessively in a manner to how the connie was replaced by excelsior by the ambassador by the galaxy and so on. To follow that same lineage, and going back to game canon just for the sake of having a complete family tree of sorts, you have the poisidon(NX era version of a miranda) was replaced by the miranda, was replaced by the centaur, was replaced by some variant of the ambassador and going into modded game canon is a bit much, which was replaced by the Nebula which was in turn replaced, supposedly, by what resembled a Nebula if the nebula had been designed after the proliferation of the sovereign. Its basically a practice among federation engineers that once the mainline cruiser of a generation of ships, ex galaxy or excelsior, that the design would be scaled down into a plethora of other variants. These variants would supplant similar looking vessels from the previous generation.

@lorereloaded If a sip does Warp it Has to have a deflector, for the tiny space particles that hit like microscopic lightspeed bullets when travelling at Warp and Impulse

I love this ship, just because it’s like the excelsiors mirhanda.

The saucer looks like the vessel was comissioned around the time the Ambassador-class was made.

Looks like from the Excelsior era. The design of the nacelles and saucer. A bit of a cheaper alternative, like the Miranda to the Constitution or the Nebula to the Galaxy.

I’ll. Pitch this to you guys ! The ship most likely had a deflector dish just not the kind we are used to seeing

I like the Centaur. It is a cool looking ship.

should be typed as a destroyer not classed as a destroyer. if the leas ship is the centaur then it would be the centaur class. as for lack of nav deflector that doesn't matter. it's shield grid was just beefed up to make up for the lack of deflector dish like the miranda/avenger class

So is the centar to excelucer like nebula to galaxy? Or miranda to constitution?

@thebighurt2495

5 жыл бұрын

I believe so.

Best neo Miranda design in star trek.

My first ever STO ship to command for my character

It looks kind of like an upside down LOKNAR class frigate, doesn't it?

It is the starter FED ship from Star Trek Online, I like the design.

I like the design

wasn't there 2 or 3 centaur class ships at wolf 359 where it faced the borg.

can you do a video on nova class?

Obviously the inspiration for the Crossfield class ships (USS Glenn, USS Discovery) of STD fame.

Its a cool looking ship.

Well as of the launch of Star trek Discovery we have been told by CBS that everything in Star Trek Online is officially canon and this ship is called the Centaur class in the game and is a smaller ship built using spare parts from excelsior class ships

you have nebula class that are basicly 2 types one based off ambasador class saucer then later on made to link up with the same separation points of a galaxy class saucer so id agree centaur is a saucer of excelsior class and not even the refited saucer as it may really be recycled parts from mothball refited to a compact modernized secondary haul for times of war then later on in the dominion war. its been stated even on ds9 border disputed have been perpetuated by outfiting mothballed hardware with working modern hardware then sisko even states doing the same thing to supliment crippled shipyards. so thats my best idea i can come up with for this one.

Hi, is there a reason why the centaur has such big warp nacelles? Does it have to do with speed, efficiency or something else?

@Kwjehehebebb

6 жыл бұрын

Sam SH I'd imagine it's part speed and part expense. The ship can probably go faster by venting more plasma or some other sci-fi mumbo jumbo. But it's also probably closer to the exelsiors nacellels making it cheaper to design or produce.

@nicholaskalemusic982

6 жыл бұрын

Could be where the deflectors are

@chrissonofpear3657

6 жыл бұрын

As long as it doesn't need Discovery-sized nacelles...

I've always felt that the Centaur is to the Excelsior what the Miranda is to the Constitution, and like it that way. :)

id like to see the starfleet attack fighter

The thing literally looks like someone did a saucer separation by accident and they tried and failed to hide that fact by just strapping it onto what suspiciously looks like Bird of Prey wings because the captain thought it looked cooler and the tried to pass it off as a totally original design by giving it extra long warp nacelles. XD

It kind of looks like a larger, modern version of an Aries class ship.

Navigational Deflectors are not really needed at warp. Mostly they are needed on Exploration ship traveling into unknown area or in systems with an abundance of small materials like asteroids. If a Ship like the Centaur which is doing the duties of a Destroyer, escort duties Patrolling the borders and the likes. Has no need of a large Navigational Deflector. Smaller auxiliary deflectors in the saucer sections are more than enough.

The missing deflector dish kills it for me. Any high speed operation would be screwed by the smallest debris without the deflector.

YOu should make a video showing all the tng ships appearing in Enterprise =]

Without a deflector, the Centaur was most likely a science/research or medical ship. see Olympic or Oberth classes for example have no deflector dish. The ships would need deflective capabilities to travel through space but perhaps wouldn't have required all of the capabilities of a full dish.

I literally just finished watching Samaritan Snare. What a coincidence.

If I'm not mistaken the Miranda class didn't have a deflector either.

200 officers, and no crew? Holds over 200 personnel.

@LoreReloaded

6 жыл бұрын

I was as surpried as you!

@shannonrhoads7099

5 жыл бұрын

@@LoreReloaded Can't just have officers on a ship, no real work would get done. ;)

One thing to point out...where is the deflector dish on a Miranda Class? Other than that I wished they kitbashed this sucker way before using all those poor Miranda classes as Cannon fodder. the Excelsior kitbashes, this one I truly like considering (as you pointed out), if Excelsior replaced the Constitution, this class would surely surplant the Miranda easily, but of course the Paramount production would NEVER allow that.

it looks like a cargo transport hauling cargo units in between the nacelles.... judging by the design i doubt it was tailored towards war... unless it was refitted at ds9... and noway is it an excelsior variant... not after all the refits the excelsior especially the lakota refit

This looks like the Excelsior version of the Miranda. An Excelsior saucer stuck on a Constitution refit torpedo pod.

i personally love this critter and want a TOS skin for her in STO...cause ya know ares :)

>Frankenstein of the Federation >Not the Yeager class You disappoint me, Lore. Still liked and subscribed.

If the Centaur is a Frankenstein, you should do a video on the Yeager... Frankenstein's Fugly-Duckling Monster.

Does the absence of a deflector mean that the ship would have to have it shields up every time it goes to warp? That seems like a pretty massive design flaw.

@chrissonofpear3657

6 жыл бұрын

Maybe there's a mini dish on the torpedo pod.