But the real question is, can they defeat Goku?

@emperorkain7027

Жыл бұрын

lol no, not Goku. But, unsurprisingly, Vegeta yes.

@waynekelly8489

Жыл бұрын

Who are the Saiyans of the Star Trek universe? Klingons? Does Worf get a zenkai boost after each fight?

@angstony459

Жыл бұрын

@@waynekelly8489 The Pakleds.... They are shown to go beyond their limits throughout the franchise. lol

@saiyansomething73

Жыл бұрын

You people are RIDICULUS!!! I could kill those three legged eyesores just by pissing on them!

@cosmicquestion9184

Жыл бұрын

Hey Tyler, could you do a series about what would happen to Humanity if we really did make contact with various Star Trek aliens. Like what would happen if real life Humans encountered Vulcans, and then you could do another video about if it were Tellarites etc. You could make a lot of videos because there are so many, but then again most Trek aliens act the same. You're good at making these videos and I think it would turn out cool.

Borg: resistance is futile. Undine: nah.

@caomunistadoggo4129

3 ай бұрын

Undine: assimilation is futile

@JimmyDoyel-by2cp

2 ай бұрын

Undine:"The weak shall perish!"

@Random.Rebel.Lt.General

2 ай бұрын

Undine: hippity hoppity GET OFF MY PROPERTY

@weqe2278

Ай бұрын

Undine: So, why you like.... resisting then?!

I like in Star Trek Online how the Undine are easier to spot in disguise than a Dominion changeling because Undine cannot resist talking about how weak they are and how much they are frightened of the mighty Undines.

@izzieb

Жыл бұрын

Wait... But you're talking about it...

@WitchDoctorLarry

Жыл бұрын

*looks nervously sweating at the emergency meeting button

@natedaniels3655

Жыл бұрын

@@WitchDoctorLarry I saw him vent..

@mattwilliamson9824

Жыл бұрын

So they're the Yiga from Legend of Zelda, got it.

I think that the Undine are the "last man standing " after the death of their universe. Think about it, when the stars die out sentient species would struggle to find ways to survive. Moreover, those that find a way to survive would be targeted by other desperate species. This would explain why the Undine are so powerful, they had to survive the end of the universe and every other species. This also explains their moto, "the weak will perish. "

@zadkiel242

Жыл бұрын

Not much of a motto if they were sent packing by a Federation science vessel.

@patar3323

Жыл бұрын

But fluidic space is seemingly in an average state isn't it? No evidence it's at the end of it's life cycle, they're in no hurry to move to our universe, just exploring and determining if invasion is prudent

@Nocturne05

Жыл бұрын

@@patar3323 No, no. I didn't mean that fluidic space is what naturally happens after the universe dies, but that it was artificially created by the Undine as a way to compensate for the lack of stars and other sources of energy. I don't know much about the composition of fluidic space, but since it is organic it stands to reason that it serves as some sort of fuel source for the Undine universe.

@adamschneider868

Жыл бұрын

You are so close. So there is a theory that the multiple universes in the multi-verse live in their own bubbles that expand, vibrate and contract. When two universe bubbles touch each other they exchange material causing a new "big bang" which causes the bubble to contract and then start to expand again. These bubbles have to be inside some type of medium correct? why can't that medium be fluidic space? It checks out with your theory, instead of surviving the end of their universe they found a way to escape and live in the medium that contains all universes.

@zadkiel242

Жыл бұрын

@@adamschneider868 Let's not try to shoehorn actual science into something that is more or less fantasy.

I remember one of the novels clarifying that they were so gung-ho in their slug fest with the Borg, that their standard protocol was such that if anyone on their ships, at any time, issued a "Self destruct" order, the ship instantly blew with no countdown or take-backs. That's pretty hardcore.

@tedwojtasik8781

Жыл бұрын

ARGHHHHH, why are you all so MEAN to me??? I hate you all and I hate this ship, in fact, I hope this ship just blows up!!! Damnit Zardoz, why did you ha...BOOM!

@Jason75913

Жыл бұрын

@@tedwojtasik8781 🤣🤣

@stuartwelch6432

Жыл бұрын

If I want to blow up my ship to cripple or destroy an enemy ship, why give them the chance to get away? It's like having a timer on a bomb that gives the "hero" the chance to disarm it? Or a gun with a delay between pulling the trigger and it firing? Altho, the early matchlocks (I think) had that delay, but it was just 1 second. Pull the trigger, count to 10, then it fires.

@Pfromm007

Жыл бұрын

Thank God the Undine don't have cats that could jump onto consoles and end up pressing the self-destruct button.

@jfbeam

Жыл бұрын

@@stuartwelch6432 Indeed. But many would like the chance to get away from the ship they've commanded to blow up.

Another question is why have they evolved to be Super-Apex Predators when there is no prey or competition around them? They should be like Birds on Islands where they haven't learned to fear anything.

@DannyHeywood

Жыл бұрын

To answer my own question...That would be a boring few episodes.

@DarthAwar

Жыл бұрын

In the books it's specifies they killed off all life that was not theirs as they saw them as savages and threats

@sampfrost

Жыл бұрын

are we sure they’re apec predators and not closer to the bottom on the food chain? like an invasive species being more powerful outside their natural habitats

@thoryon7767

Жыл бұрын

Simple, multiple wars in increasing complexety with other apex species we have not met yet, most likely the only surviving one was them, and the remaining species were so insignificant they flew below the radar, not even worth bothering with, when you fight another country you dont bother subjugating the arcaic villagers do you?

@thefultzman1

Жыл бұрын

We've only seen a very small part of fluidic space there could be other creatures there

The Undine, while an excellent foe, suffered from the same problems as the Romulans in TOS - they were too expensive! 😁

@stepheng618

Жыл бұрын

CGI was too expensive back then

@trumpisthemessiah7017

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, especially for a third rate cash grab like voyager. Where all is best episodes are direct ripoffs of TNG episodes.

@trumpisthemessiah7017

Жыл бұрын

Even the maquis were originally supposed to be klingons, but they didn't want to spend money on makeup.

@frederickbehn5610

Жыл бұрын

They could make a return in the modern adaptations of Star Trek, I think that would be awesome..

@tristanbulluss9386

Жыл бұрын

I have a picture of a ghost on a tv.

Back in the late-90's I made a huge "board game"(8'x4') for my kids. It featured several "squares" that said "SPECIES 8472... you've been eliminated from the game".

@Vlamyncksken

Ай бұрын

and?

@Zargabaath

22 күн бұрын

Sick?

Thanks to Voyager's thrust into the Delta Quadrant, the show added so much for Star Trek to unpack in an effort to expand its cannon. Videos like this help the unpacking process and, to me, are pretty interesting.

@mrosskne

Жыл бұрын

canon.

@GameTimeWhy

Жыл бұрын

@@discobolos4227 it's weird because there would be a lot of costume designers who would love to make more inspired aliens. I wonder if it has to do with the old guard and keeping the show inline with what the old show set.

@markfox1545

Жыл бұрын

Cannon. 🤣🤣🤣

@nickdirienzo2849

Жыл бұрын

@@GameTimeWhy I would guess it had more to do with the Progenitors. They seeded life on many planets, probably budget restraints for fx workers as well. My friend/dad (I never had) did the alien from "The Abyss" fx.

I love that you take the Sci-fi seriously. So few channels do that and that's a shame

@bottombarrelbudgetfilms1854

Жыл бұрын

Jessie Gender is also good for further viewing but yes it's a very rare beauty

@kdvr766

Жыл бұрын

You should look up speculative science channels, you might like them

@StopFear

Жыл бұрын

I think a lot of people who make sci-fi content take “sci-fi” seriously. I follow a number of people whom I can recommend if you want. Actually, don’t you know that some science fiction writers took/take offense to the shortened term sci-fi and instead insist on saying “science fiction”. For example the late Harlan Ellison. He was notorious for saying angry stuff in general but he was always angry and had a pet peeve when people said “sci-fi” because to him it was making it sound like it was dismissive and insulting. I don’t know whether I agree with him since he also said plenty stupid things and took comics as seriously as literature (I think).

@Zurround

Жыл бұрын

I wish he would focus on other genres of science fiction too, not just Star Trek. I think he did a little bit of Star Wars but there are so many other science fiction worlds that could use his analysis.

@kdvr766

Жыл бұрын

@@Zurround you can check out curious archive channel you might like it

Something I just realized- the Undine are clearly not alone in fluidic space as they have a need for shields and weapons and it is unlikely they developed them just to fight the borg

@DJchilcott

Жыл бұрын

I mean, as far as we know, we're alone in the universe, and we have weapons and defences.

@Dr_Mafia

Жыл бұрын

@@DJchilcott Yes, because we have enemies and others that wish harm upon us

@DJchilcott

Жыл бұрын

@@Dr_Mafia Most of whom are other humans. My point is, the Undine might not have been united as they are now in the past. Especially considering how dense their DNA is, mutations must be extremely common. Thus leading to differences, and therefore, tribalism. The ones we see now might be the strains that survived massive wars of genocide.

@fartquaviasdingle7876

2 ай бұрын

​@@DJchilcottEh but we aren't telepathic space floaters so the comparison seems pretty unfair.

@andyghkfilm2287

28 күн бұрын

⁠@@DJchilcott but what good is a shield to a race that can disrupt shields as a biological feature?

First time I've ever seen a red shirt make it through an entire episode. Well done 👏

@thedudeabides3138

2 ай бұрын

LMFAO, what a brilliant comment! Bravo.

@alexrusu6417

2 ай бұрын

you work at blizzard?

Species 8472 episodes were solid. Another great thing about Voyager is how they took from what they learned doing TNG and were able to make elaborate on such interesting concepts.

@ma1ist

Жыл бұрын

isn't it wild that for such a long time people shit on Voyager for not doing enough of what you just said they did. i watched it as a kid and it got me into trek. an amazing addition to the franchise imo

@a.e.jabbour5003

Жыл бұрын

@@ma1ist I absolutely LOVED (and still do!) "Voyager." I grew up in the 70s/80s, so I first the TOS and then got to experience TNG as it happened. But, I think if I had to pick a favorite series, I would have to go with "Voyager." :) And the 8472 eps were really well done, fascinating, and honestly? Creepy as heck. HA! And I agree that one of the series' best qualities was how it was able to take so many elements and build on them in such fascinating ways.

Your writer suggesting you add pissing gold and shitting diamonds made me hit the like. Good job writer

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Script editor* (I write the first drafts) But yes, he provides a very valuable service!

I think the Voyager writers took inspiration from Babylon 5's Shadows. The Shadows look sort of similar and they also have organic tech with their ships.

@saberiandream316

Жыл бұрын

What do you want?

@ironinquisitor3656

Жыл бұрын

@@saberiandream316 "Who are you? And what do you want?" 😆

@saberiandream316

Жыл бұрын

​@@ironinquisitor3656 "Why are you here? Do you have anything worth living for?"

@mickwayne3398

Жыл бұрын

very strong Thirdspace aliens vibes - they also hated other intelligent life

@kevinjasper6620

Жыл бұрын

Interesting idea. I know the Shadows are the bad guys, but I like them. In a fight between Species 8472 and The Shadows, I wonder who would win. I think I'd bet on The Shadows

My headcanon is as follows: Fluidic space is an living organism and 8472 are its immune system

For decades, I interpreted them existing in "fluidic space" as them existing in a form of hyperspace (extradimensional space) where all matter is fluid, super-hot, and dense. Them entering "our space" via the gates make them "blow up" to many times their actual volume and actually have less mastery over their powers and form despite how well they adapt to our cold vacuum. To put in simple comic-book sci-fi logic, they exist in almost the quantum universe and were not aware of our universe until the Borg invaded them.

I love the Species 8472 alien creation and I think the Tholians are also very cool. Thanks for sharing your research on this topic

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

I thoroughly enjoy the portrayal of the Tholians as well!

@tedwojtasik8781

Жыл бұрын

I dig how you can blow up a Tholian by turning on an air conditioning unit 🙂

Those bio ships look very vorlon

@jamesfry8983

Жыл бұрын

@@subraxas Exactly

Not humanoid for Star Trek. But compared to how weird life can get on Earth let alone hypothetically, I'd still call them pretty darn humanoid looking. Love the channel as always though.

@bullpup1337

Жыл бұрын

@@subraxas thats just a gimmick and biologically quite implausible. 3 legs suck, there is no real benefit

@tomasr.

Жыл бұрын

@@bullpup1337 Except for higher stability. But imagine you were living in liquid space, maybe there is a third leg usable for movement. Creatures what move on the sea floor usually have more legs. That third leg can be good to keep you from being swept away by the sea current.

@bullpup1337

Жыл бұрын

@@tomasr. yeah but the most plausible mutation would be a gene duplication so you would go from 2 to 4 legs and then 6 or 8. To go back to three would then probably occur by shortening of one of the four legs over time. It is rare but could happen, see starfish with 5. But that would only happen if 3 legs were really better than 4 which seems unlikely. There are no terrestrial 3 legged animals to my knowledge.

@tomasr.

Жыл бұрын

@@bullpup1337 The Undines have 5 limbs, 3 legs and 2 hands. Maybe their great ancestor really was a starfish. ;)

@mrosskne

Жыл бұрын

If the universe is infinite, every possibility has occurred, no matter how unlikely.

When I saw the Borg, they reminded me of the Posbis that I read in the pages of Perry Rhodan about 10 years earlier. They were as big a threat as the Borg are. They had shields that were like time machines; whatever hit them was sent to the past before it could reach the Posbi ship.

@minorityofthought1306

Жыл бұрын

Oh hey, someone who knows who Perry Rhodan is. I read almost thirty issues way back. I don't remember the Posbi though. But that was thirty years ago.

@TighelanderII

Жыл бұрын

@@minorityofthought1306 This was the last of the series I read back then. These issues were after Ace dropped the series. They were very simple editions - stapled and the same art on each cover. They're numbered 119-136. I think it went this way: Rhodan's crew first run into this race of invisible people, then you find out that the invisibles are fighting the Posbis.

it is supper green

I just came home from work and discovered this nice jem you planted. Thanks Tyler, a great start of the weekend!

Love that the Undine bully the borg XD

The Borg poked the beehive. As for Fluidic space, isn't it symbiotic? Mutualistic? They were a living immune system.

This was great. Thank You

This species deserved a longer run as a villain.

@amateurastronomer9463

Жыл бұрын

Maybe they are. Maybe they're the baddies of Picard season 3

@CorporateG0th

Жыл бұрын

In the context of producing an epic, they are certainly a great villain to center the story around. But in the context of philosophical exploration as ST is want to do, I think we were well served by getting a nuanced view from both sides, leading up to the cease fire. In which case, the intricacies of their culture and their interaction with the Federation should've gotten more airtime. Though Voyager was still in a time when a fair amount of script & screentime was dedicated to this (vs. say Discovery now)

@khandallah4725

Жыл бұрын

villain is one of the most regressive terms in star trek.

I can relate somewhat from my experience with a guy who was a cold, powerful and truly awful creature who started hanging around with us. We had to get rid of him or "un-Dean" ourselves. Finally chased him off like he was a semi domesticated wild animal and it was for his own good.

@risunokairu

Жыл бұрын

What about his brother Sam

@nicholaseakin2900

5 ай бұрын

I suppose he also had a third leg….

Your videos just keep getting better! Keep doing you, man. Love this stuff.

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Please do an episode on the think tank!!!

nice break down on subject with little cannon info on them. Side note. I wonder what happened to Tom and Janeways children after they where abandoned??? Nightmares of Threshold...

@patrickmccurry1563

Жыл бұрын

Let's just keep that episode in the same dumpster as ST:TNG's Code Of Honor, please.

@xephorce

Жыл бұрын

@@patrickmccurry1563 we find them in the next season of Star Trek Discovery seeing as its in the 31st century. LMAO. the horrors.....

This is a very well put together and informative video. Thank you.

Awesome video! I came for expansion upon a thought provoking sci-fi species, stayed for the astrophysics lesson!

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Unfortunately not all commenters find my exploration of the real-world scientific background to be valuable. But honestly, it's one of the core elements of my channel...so I'm glad you find it valuable!

Make a video about the Andromedans from TOS

Sh*tng gold? I wonder what would have happened if they had first contact with the Ferengi🤔

@kevinjohnson7553

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

Fascinating dive into the Undine! Another excellent, very entertaining video!

This was a good watch , Thanks for the info on Species 8472

Been waiting for this and it was without a doubt your best one yet!

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Jay!

I legitimately lol’d at the VSauce reference

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad people find it funny and not overused lol

Judging by the fact they have gene injectors that let them assume a form of another species I am leaning towards that they indeed genetically modified themselves to better survive the Fluidic Space. I presume on the way they might have engineered themselves to not need things like sleep and such to optimize their life.

I remember watching their first appearance when it aired as a kid, and seeing that many Borg cubes… FLEEING?! oh boy… it was absolutely terrifying.

I can't believe I forgot about these. I need to watch Voyager again.

@jplonsdale7242

Жыл бұрын

The CGI hasn't aged well for them

Great video Tyler in fact I'd rank it among one of your best videos.

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Saxon! It was somewhat challenging to write, so I'm glad people are liking my take on this subject!

@jorgnocke991

Жыл бұрын

@@OrangeRiver i have a video idea could you talk about Cthulhu different beings from the works auf Howard Phillips Lovecraft levelong and prosper🖖🏼

@saxondark

Жыл бұрын

@@OrangeRiver This video is up to over 8k views already Tyler nice.

This was one hell of a project and video to take on. Tyler you’re to damn smart and talented.

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jeff--it definitely was a tough subject to tackle. I'm glad people are enjoying the video!

@jhallam2011

Жыл бұрын

@@OrangeRiver indeed! God bless!

Sounds like the Undine are a blend of species or may have genetically modified themselves at some point (this would fall in sync with “the grays” as Earthers call them). Nice video!!

Great video thank you I have a wonderful and blessed day

So where exactly do the Diamonds and Gold come out of ?!

@jasperdoornbos8989

Жыл бұрын

I used my imagination 😉

@who-ny5oe

3 ай бұрын

Out of my ass.

Shape shifting, telepathy, and Wolverine level healing. Hot damn! I loved when they first showed up in Voyager.

13:29 - i had wondered before, if the Species 8472 design ..inspired the Cloverfield monster. I still think so :)

Been looking forward to this!

You should try writing sci fi, you certainly have the knowledge and creativity for it!

@kevinjohnson7553

Жыл бұрын

Absolute truth right here. 💯🖖

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

@subraxas Lmao

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

@Newton Jr At some point in the future as my video production pipeline becomes more automated, I'd definitely like to spend more time working on my own science fiction. I have lots of ideas I've been nurturing off and on for the past 10+ years that I'd like to share with my audience!

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

@subraxas God, I hope not that long from now! Lol

Thanks for the vid. Loved that VSause reference

Thank you for the video!

Another excellent video essay, Tyler. Thanks.

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Gopher!

When will you cover the Trill?

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

I'd like to this year!

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

@subraxas Excellent :D

that 'Vsauce' moment made me crack! xD

Hey, Taylor! Guys, here.

Now that I think of it. DS9 had an episode where there *very explciitely* was a new universe forming and the dilemah was destrying it or risking it destroying everything i nthe local area. Maybe that is the birth of fluidic space? or how about that life form that hijacked the enterprise and used the holodeck as way for the crew to interface with it until it was finished building itself/being born?

hey Tyler guys here.

Man you've got some really solid content 👏 glad I found your channel

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

U have the most underrated trek KZread channel. I love your videos me and my dad love trek and we watch your vid together. Keep up the great work bro

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Andrew!

🤙🏼 *Ooo I'd been waitin for this one!* 🤙🏼

Its great to see so many positive comments! And its great to see another Captain join the member ranks too! 🖖

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely!

hey there genius man, this channel is super awesome. maybe my new fav

Just found this channel, currently very pleased.

Fascinating 🖖

I just have to point out how AWESOME it is that you used so much MelodySheep footage in this video! The "Life Beyond" series is thought-provoking, well researched & presented, and breath-takingly beautiful. I'm sorry, I like to see things that show my favorite creators happen to enjoy some of the same content I do. Great video, keep up the amazing work!

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Paul!

This is randomly entertaining.. kinda hits the spot in many ways 🤝

Is absolutely hilarious when he put that V-sauce pause and music in there.. well done sir, well done

Non humanoid aliens villans were always way more creepy and menacing in the star trek shows.

Excellent work!

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

It is amazing how real scientific facts can be mixed with scifi stories to formulate "mind experiments" and wonder the infinite possibilities of this universe. Great job! and great voice and style, hope you can make it big!

Great Stuff.. enjoyed the video !

I think that the Undine were designed by a writing team that don't really understand biology. There's so much about their biology in the lore that I think is overly complicated. On the other hand, I do think they make for an interesting antagonist and I wish we saw more of them.

@zadkiel242

Жыл бұрын

The writers didn't even know how to adequately use an antagonist. The Borg, Dominion, and Undine were absolutely used terribly.

@StopFear

Жыл бұрын

I am glad we don’t see more of them. That isn’t to say recent Star Trek isn’t full of stupidity and non-sense. I didn’t like this species because when Voyager was originally on TV they were trying to hype them, but as far as their behavior they essentially were identical to mindless invader monsters like the idiotic aliens in The Independence Day, or even Xenomorphs. I remember viewers were comparing the episode where Janeway had to fight one of this aliens it was joked that it’s like Star Trek is copying Alien. If they are advanced enough to make spaceships then they are advanced enough to have more diverse thought processes than just invading and killing all others. Even their body design is essentially a “tripod” which in science fiction is an idea that’s too old. The only reason we don’t see more tri legged aliens in movies is that it’s difficult to make a non cgi creature that realistically walks on 3 legs.

@zadkiel242

Жыл бұрын

@@StopFear All the Star Trek post Wrath of Khan never were able to make good, solid villains. The Borg just became jobbers because of their own stupidity. The premise behind the Borg is just ridiculous. The way they fight battles is stupid. Wasted villain. The Dominion is the same thing. The Dominion are an acient race. The Founders had every opportunity to do some real serious damage to the entire Alpha Quadrant, but no, the kid gloves never came off. The Jem Hadar could defeat every ship in the Federation except the Defiant because it came with quantum phasing super duper plot armor. Then you have the Undine who came out swinging and curbstomping Borg left and right (since they're jobbers anyway), but then when they met Voyager. Voyager is the final boss to the Undine. Imagine you get to the final boss, and it's the guy working in the lab collecting samples. He doesn't even know how to fight. Yeah that's Voyager. Not a ship designed for war. The Undine ship was. Yet Voyager wins because of the law of conservation of ninjutsu. It's always the same with these writers

@spacedoohicky

Жыл бұрын

I'm curious. What about their biology was amiss? Not trying to debate, or anything. I'm genuinely curious.

@zadkiel242

Жыл бұрын

@@spacedoohicky It's not so much their biology as much as the fact that the Undine showed up as these massive powerhouses only to be terrified of Voyager and nanites.

The Borg is only technologically advanced, species 8472 is advanced on many fronts, not just technological.

@zadkiel242

Жыл бұрын

Like?

@twinturbo3461

Жыл бұрын

@@zadkiel242 Watch the Voyager series and see for yourself. Season 3 last episode, Season 4 first episode.

@zadkiel242

Жыл бұрын

@@twinturbo3461 I saw it, but other than technology, what else is advanced? We don't get much info on their society, psychology, or even how their brain functions. So what, other than technology, is more advanced?

@twinturbo3461

Жыл бұрын

@@zadkiel242 Physiology, spiritually, psychic abilities, I believe they can enter into "sub-space" , they have great physical attributes as well.

@zadkiel242

Жыл бұрын

@@twinturbo3461 It seems like a reasonable assumption. I just wish the writers did a better job with them and the Borg. The Borg should have been way way different and actually powerful. It seems that all the protagonists have to do is modify the shields, phasers, or some random mcguffin to get the win.

Good video mate, subbed for more. I always thought 8472 were under utilised and they were basically an organic version of the Borg. They would make a great film.

This was my favorite conflict in the whole of the Star Trek universe/series!!

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You doomed yourself , red shirt red shirt!

Great video my boy 👍

😊 great info. Thanks!

Thanks Tyler. I was watching the Voyager episode with the fake Starfleet academy _ headquarters. This week .

The only other place I think I've heard of the undene was in the stories of Zenna Henderson.... I thought it was something not done.

Wow im so glad i found this channel. For a Startrek fan these videos are fantastic 👏 I'm on a bit of a binge lol I just watched your one on Captain Jellico.

@OrangeRiver

10 ай бұрын

Thanks a ton! Welcome to the community

Thanks for making such a factual and enjoyable show. You are practically Vulcanesque. :D

Great delve into ST lore, as always. Thank you

For some reason, I have a memory of the one Undine posing as Boothby telling the Voyager crew their species name. And it might have even been "Undine" too. But I rewatched the episode a year or so ago, and that scene simply doesn't exist. Unless it was a deleted scene that I picked up somewhere, I have no idea where I would have gotten that memory from. Anyway, in my opinion, "Undine" is a perfectly fine species name, and I hope the name gets canonized at some point in the future. More than 20 years on, and we're still referring to them by a Borg designation. The Elachi is another species, only seen on screen once, but never named, that STO fleshed out, and I hope the species name for them gets canonized too.

@stef_trek

Жыл бұрын

I also remember this and will re watch. Is this the Mandela effect?

@notsyzagts7967

Жыл бұрын

There was no deleted scene like that. You're simply experiencing the Mandela Effect.

@nathank3976

Жыл бұрын

Star Trek Armada II

@Peregrine57

Жыл бұрын

@@nathank3976 I doubt it. I never played it, and from what I can tell, Ray Walston wasn't in it.

My favorite part was Fluidic Space, thanks

I really wish I was as familiar with Star Trek as I am with Star Wars. Finding out gems like this only makes that feeling stronger.

that cop from the fifth element: sir do you identify as a human male? Bruce Willis: no sir I am a green popsicle

@quantemwensday

2 ай бұрын

@@BanterMaestro2-vh5vn : frozen dildo

@quantemwensday

2 ай бұрын

*frozen dildo

@proudarmedreadytobugaloode6295

2 ай бұрын

Meat popsicle

@quantemwensday

2 ай бұрын

@@proudarmedreadytobugaloode6295 *green

@proudarmedreadytobugaloode6295

2 ай бұрын

@@quantemwensday well I knew someone misheard

Is it possible for The Borg to actually feel fear? I can see the Borg assessing The Undine to be a threat and very dangerous to tge point of avoiding any contact/interaction. When the Borg give something that level of respect, its probably a good idea to avoid it as well. Such a fascinating species!

I wonder if they're immune to the proto-molecule? Remember the Canterbury!

I believe fluidic space to be in another dimension. Physics there would be very different.

Very OP. They need to be nerfed asap. @God

I love the exit music 👍🏼

I love how this is somewhat EDUCATIONAL in that there is some REAL SCIENCE mixed in.

Chakotay is a true explorer! Lol you should of said the nano probes "scare the hell out of" em.. lol

Hey guys.....angstony here......Tyler is great at breaking down the biology, history, culture and technology of star trek mythos. Live long and prosper.

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Thank you angstony!

They seem to be inspired by that creature from the animated cartoon series whose name was Lt Arex.

Excellent video