This is how Eggman should be. Smart. Terrifying. Still slightly goofy.

@TeamMarioandSonicDubbing

Жыл бұрын

The perfect Eggman 🥚

Basically… Starline: You… listened to me? No, you’ve never listened to me! Eggman: Dear Starline, never confuse “not listening” with “not caring”.

@raistlin3462

4 ай бұрын

Ah, a fellow Order of the Stick follower.

Honestly i feel like eggman is fully capa le of throwing hands with a lot of people but prefers beating them with brain rather than brawn

@diegocarrillo7512

Жыл бұрын

Ong I feel like Eggman would actually be a serious challenge for sonic if they fought 1 on 1 combat.

@maninthevoid

Жыл бұрын

@@diegocarrillo7512 I mean he can canonical outrun sonic so yea I believe that

@Mikescool444

Жыл бұрын

@@maninthevoid I mean, I would also be pretty spent if I had to deal with the Death Egg, but ok.

@cameronballz6154

Жыл бұрын

Remember who Eggman's typical opponents are, dude can absolutely run hands but all his opponents can either move at lightning speed or move mountains

@Am_Cookie2436

Жыл бұрын

​@@maninthevoid only video game sonic, since video game sonic is really freaking slow. Slower than most cars

“You’ve never shown this much foresight before-“ He’s never shown that much foresight when fighting *sonic.* The same person who’s he’s praised and respected, to the point that he almost treats his battles like a game. Starline, on the other hand, is definitely no sonic.

@Mikescool444

Жыл бұрын

He tussles with Sonic. Here, he fought starline.

@Bluesit32

Жыл бұрын

It is a game. Eggman flat out tells Starline that, if he wanted, he could have carpet bombed Sonic into oblivion, but that just isn't fun. He was furious at Starline for trying to lure Sonic into an exploding bunker.

@boneman9751

Жыл бұрын

@@Bluesit32 that’s like with bowser, who we know can rip entire islands out of the ground and bust through *the moon* losing to a set of questionably in shape plumbers. There’s a reason there’s always a kill switch at the end of the fight. It’s all a game. Each time the stakes need to be higher, the designs grander, the spectacle flashier. Yk, something like remaking the universe in your image, or in eggman’s case, holding the planet hostage. Subtle right? And it’s not like Mario and sonic don’t enjoy the game also. How many times has sonic had the opportunity to blow robotniks head off, yet he usually lets him go or works with him to take down something else.

Eggman single-handedly destroying the smartest mobian known Edit: wow 135….you all like this huh?

@waddleboyadvance7187

Жыл бұрын

Epic

@thisgooberisinmanyasylums

Жыл бұрын

@@waddleboyadvance7187 yep very epic

@Mikescool444

Жыл бұрын

Well, he is one of the only humans around, aswell as apparently being the smartest there is.

@thisgooberisinmanyasylums

Жыл бұрын

@@Mikescool444 well, yes, but he only uses mechs most of the time, yet he never throws hands, and now that we see him doing so here, HES STRONG ASF

I am 99% sure Sonic's super speed is the only thing keeping Eggman from absolutely obliterating him in a fair fight.

@cameronballz6154

Жыл бұрын

Not even a mech, just a straight up fist fight

@brockhanson8720

Жыл бұрын

@@cristodemonte1690 in the games Eggman is classified as a power type.

@masterharrison3921

Жыл бұрын

In the games eggman is portrayed as faster than sonic even super sonic

@Sayonara_Sumi

Жыл бұрын

@@masterharrison3921 "how...can a man...THAT FAT MOVE FUCKIN FAST" - Sonic Paradox

@ashtonboutwell6154

Жыл бұрын

@@Sayonara_Sumi 6ft-10 fat man with science.

That’s the difference between the two. Robotnik has never called himself a failure. he admits he’s made mistakes but doesn’t see them as utter failures. He is a scientist so failures are merely seen as setbacks.

@northernalpine4350

10 ай бұрын

*_"a mistake is no failure, it is merely a setback, a lesson, a step back to make a leap forward"_*

"You've never shown this much foresight!" ...Starline hasn't been paying attention. Eggman always has a Plan B. He is always running MULTIPLE plots to take over the world so that if one is taken down by factors he couldn't forsee, he can just abandon it and focus on the next instead. And he always, ALWAYS escapes because he plans for his own defeat in any gambit as well as for his success. In Sonic Adventure, despite being absolutely assured of his Egg Carrier being invincible, he STILL BUILT AN ENTIRE BACKUP EGG CARRIER JUST IN CASE. Eggman has nothing BUT Foresight. He is practically the GOD of foresight. Doctor Starline plans for every single detail, and that was his flaw. When his plans went wrong he didn't know what to do because he couldn't be flexible. If even a tiny detail goes off from his plan it collapses. Eggman plans for every possibility. If his plans go wrong he can adapt them on the fly, and if he discovers something that can be to his advantage, or detriment, he didn't know about... it becomes part of his plan on the spot. Starline never could have outplanned Eggman. Or truly outsmarted him. Pure hubris is what took Starline down.

@bloffbloff3367

Жыл бұрын

I like how there someone would spend their free time to explain everything in detail ,u are a gentleman ,I thx and respect u for that

@melonmale

Жыл бұрын

Most of his tools are flexible too, the egg carrier aa you said his best defense and escape is often always integrated into his mechs in a way atleast early on haven't seen more recent ones but the way that it connects and seems to be easily modified his egg carrier is another strength

@Gunni4091

Жыл бұрын

Xanatos Gambit? More like Eggman Gambit.

@xXYannuschXx

Жыл бұрын

The only thing is: why didnt he make a vaccine for the metal virus? Or take any precautions? I mean, it nearly cost him his life in the end.

@GuukanKitsune

Жыл бұрын

@xXYannuschXx He did take precautions. He had absolute control of the metal virus and its zombot victims... at first. Then it did what viruses always do and mutated... and kept mutating and changing... and over time these mutations made it impossible to control it and the zombots the original way. But he had a backup method of control ready, devices he could implant into individual zombots to re-establish his control if he lost it. However, the same problem arose, the virus began steadily evolving immunity to that control system too, and as the metal virus kept mutating and evolving it became apparent that it would eventually mutate away any control method he devised... at which point he abandoned all plans regarding it and withdrew. As for a vaccine, creating one was not only impossible but it would run counter to the entire point of the virus: everyone everywhere being enslaved to Eggman's will.

I only just realized that around the "No, Doctor..." panel, he's straight up just rising from the rubble like another of his machines. The Emperor was never his desperation weapon, nor was it just any old ploy. He arranged this SPECIFICALLY so he could personally beat Starline senseless with his bare hands because HE is the weapon.

@runedoom

10 ай бұрын

"I AM THE -HYPE- WEAPON!"

One of the better explanations I've seen is that Dr. Eggman is like that because he goes up against SONIC. Sonic is too fast for Dr. Eggman to get hung up on contingencies normally, because that's time wasted when he could be building the next thing. So instead he just keeps things rolling, always jumping to the next plan just to keep up with the blue blur. While Starline absolutely folded as soon as he hit the first major roadblock. Because when Dr. Eggman isn't going against the literal fastest thing alive, he has time to take things apart piece by piece and think things through much more thoroughly.

@DrGandW

10 ай бұрын

Basically Starline’s too slow

@HalfTangible

10 ай бұрын

Also nothing about Sonic's abilities makes any logical sense at all So planning against him is kind of an exercise in futility

@trainman5675

10 ай бұрын

One could argue that eggmans plans agaunst sonic are stalling tactics for the grand finale qhere he hopes to overpower them

@leon4000

3 ай бұрын

One thing to take from this is that Robotnik keeps learning to adapt and change to try to see what he could create to snare and best Sonic. He represents those who never give up after a mistake, and learns from it. Essentially, he learns how to fail better and use that to improve himself. Dr. Starline is like a lot of people who have been conditioned terribly on the concept of failure in a derogatory way. That even one mistake or certain factors unreachable due to specific things makes you unable to find success no matter what you do. A crippling insecurity if you let it run your very life. Dr. Starline potential is bogged down by trying hard not to fail, and when he does, he freaks out due to factors in his life that skewed his perception of what failure is at its simple nature, but other insecure people make it worse than it seems because they struggle to find success too. The platypus was so lost in thought over his failure of surpassing Eggman, he didn't see his demise he had seconds to avoid, but did not act in time.

@TVmantitan779

3 ай бұрын

​@HalfTangible, and that's not counting how Sonic's friends in the situation since Sonic's many friends are threats to Eggman only lesser than Sonic's threat to Eggman.

Now Starline really knows what it feels like to be Eggman. "I planned everything out to the smallest detail. I had every advantage. Accounted for every contingency. And I still lost. He destroyed all that effort in MINUTES." Sounds like how a little blue hedgehog sabotages a mustachioed scientist's schemes.

@boffadeeznuts6312

2 ай бұрын

But unlike eggman, starline's confidence shattered instantly.

Eggman is super strong but he just refuses to use his strength for some reason, like how he single handedly destroyed a wall with his fist in sonic lost world

@Sugma.Nuts-

Жыл бұрын

Because he prefers brains over brawns

@iamlouis1495

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget he is faster than sonic in the second game.

@shemoniesimpson7275

Жыл бұрын

@@iamlouis1495 don't forget he is still human I think that he can keep up with Sonic at normal speed but all those years fighting Sonic and his friends with eventually make him pick up some things

@gabeskai

Жыл бұрын

I'd say he avoids fighting himself to reduce the risk of him injuring his arms, as he needs those to build at max capacity

@thedarkest9

Жыл бұрын

Starline was nothing but a bag of tricks, so when he took them all away, he not only knew he could beat him hand to hand, but wanted to as to make a fool of him. Trying that kind of maneuver on Sonic would end with him back on his but without his mustache with a throbbing headache. If it was anyone else, he would have used his tech, but Starline needed to be humbled.

Casual reminder that Dr Eggman is a grown ass 6’1” adult man in a world entirely populated by children sized characters

@Skillfulstone

3 ай бұрын

I mean, most of those children-sized characters can send stuff weighing tons flying with their bare hands and destroy super advanced robots. Not to mention the various insane abilities they have. Sure Eggman could likely handle the average human but Sonic & co. are on another level.

@southerncoastproductions7587

3 ай бұрын

Shut up.

This is the kind of Eggman I want in Sonic games, an actual mastermind with backup plans for his backup plans, who can outsmart the smartest beings in his verse on a whim

@benjaminoechsli1941

10 ай бұрын

It's the thing Sonic Forces came closest to getting right. "I knew you'd blow up my death ray, so I made a fake one to divert your attention. You're too late now. Game over."

Thing people fail to remember is that Eggman makes his plans FLEXIBLE because he’s fighting *Sonic.* EVERYTHING can go wrong when you’re fighting this world’s equivalent of Super Man. It’s a miracle that Eggman can even stand up to let alone fight Sonic. People all too regularly forget that Eggman puts double, triple, quadruple redundancies in his plans and still loses only because of how overpowered Sonic is. Starline got by on a fluke. He’s competent, but he effectively barged in while everyone else was preoccupied and declared himself superior. Eggman, finally going toe to toe with someone as… RIGID in mindset as Starline, realized how easy it’d be to exploit his rigidity. Starline planning everything out WAS his downfall. Like it or not, Eggman LEARNS, and he learned from Sonic that it’s easiest to beat someone when they think **they** are in total control. Plans always go wrong, and Starline continually planning everything down to a tee meant that Eggman just had to wedge himself in at the right time and… well… screw it up. Starline wasn’t going to account for any mishaps… Eggman was. His entire CAREER was filled with mishaps. He just used Starline’s mindset against him. This is what happens when Sonic media gets good writing.

@orumonuldor1340

2 ай бұрын

Depending on when you count the timeline of sonic, you could say he's been adapting since sonic 1 on the genesis if not sooner. You can see this in how his traps evolved even back in Sonic 2. By sonic 3 and knuckles, Robotnik had even developed a viable, albeit unsuccessful strategy against super transformations, even if that strategy was simply stall until the form ran out of energy.

@xJaaku

2 ай бұрын

Eggman learns and yet he gets defeated the same way every time. Try again.

@TheMainOne2.0

2 ай бұрын

​@@xJaaku bro please just shut up. In almost every comment I've seen you in you just decide to be a massive dick for no reason

Acting strictly rationally and evading mistakes makes you extremely predictable Being insane and unpredictable and also a genius however...

@edwintrinidadperazacaraban4650

Жыл бұрын

Know THAT, is what separates a villain. FROM A SUPER-VILLAIN

@shadowhunter1429

Жыл бұрын

​@@edwintrinidadperazacaraban4650 I thought the key difference was... PRESENTATION!

@theemeraldenderman3007

Жыл бұрын

@@shadowhunter1429 he’s had that from the start.

You wanted this Starline. You killed Mr thinker... there's your reward

@danielmendes989

10 ай бұрын

I agree with you

@d.k.islander8095

10 ай бұрын

You wanted him to think things through? Here’s your wish!

Funniest thing is that eggman didnt even have to intervene, he could've waited for sonic to take starline down since the surge and kit plan failed But he wanted to humiliate him himself

@raistlin3462

4 ай бұрын

That's entirely in-character for Robotnik.

We should never forget, that eggman is still a fully grown tall human man in a world full of small animals.

@agustinfuentes8501

Жыл бұрын

Remember he catches up with Sonic running in the first games

@twaggytheatricks4960

Жыл бұрын

Right? It is _so easy_ to forget.

Starline’s whole edgelord persona crumbled when he got fed hands by the Villain notorious for having anyone else’s fight his battles for him and cowering in fear when that fails. And he got quite litterally ragdolled

@Mr._Galaxywide

Жыл бұрын

Starline: "But... But.. But.. How? You have always relied on your suites in battle." EggMAN: "Yes, but that was against a Hedgehog who can break the laws of physics and is favored by fate itself to win." *Slams Starline into concrete* "But against you? an upstart who thinks they are a genius?" *Throws a Punch* "I don't need a mech all I need are the hand that built them." *Throws him to the side* "And the hands that could tear them apart..."

@bradleyadams5252

6 ай бұрын

​@@Mr._Galaxywidesonic, watching from the sidlines: Almost makes me feel bad for Starline...almost.

Starline: ima fight eggman with his machine Minutes later Damn... Eggman got hands

I tend to forget, the freedom fighters are superhuman by Mobian standards. Starline is all tech, and Eggman is several feet taller, and heavier than an anthropomorphic platypus. It is not difficult to yeet a normal toddler when all you fight, day in day out, is super toddlers.

@ashtonboutwell6154

Жыл бұрын

.. bro this is the best run down i have ever seen in my life.

Considering in comics and games, eggman has been shown to do so many superhuman feats like outrunning sonic in multiple games, breaking walls and ice with his bare hands, etc. Getting your butt whopped in a hand to hand fight by eggman is somewhat normal. Also at the end of the day, he's always viewed facing sonic as a little game anyways. He literally shows that he respects the crap out of him, to the point where eggman flat out has said that he could always just end him on the spot. Same with Sonic, as he's had more than enough times to kill Eggman on the spot.

As someone once mentioned: "It's not that the main villain is incompetent. It's that their adversary is so formidable they end up passing for a joke."

@Blazieth

Ай бұрын

Eggman doesn't want to just kill Sonic. He's said himself that if that was all he wanted, he could just carpet-bomb entire regions until he got him. He wants to _BEAT_ Sonic. Have one of his plans come out on top, first try. Think what happened to Sonic in Forces, but without the successful rescue later. He doesn't refine and re-attempt the same plan, because that's not his style. If he particularly likes an individual machine, he'll repair and upgrade it, but he'll make it something NEW in the process. Metal Sonic is about the only such exception in that regard. It's not about beating Sonic. It's about proving that his intellect and creativity, and creations can overcome Sonic's raw power and speed. Eggman is _always_ holding back against Sonic, because "Victory by any means" is not what he wants. Eggman wants "Victory by _MY_ means."

@DoomSlayer-gj8qb

25 күн бұрын

@@Blaziethyou got it wrong saying He doesn’t wanna outsmart Sonic and kill him with a surprise attack/trap Okay first of all Eggman already tried carpet bombing it didn’t work. Secondly he literally tries to kill the blue blur daily. Third of all everything eggman has done doesn’t work.

@overuseanimations4590

20 күн бұрын

@@DoomSlayer-gj8qb when did his "carpet bombing" not work? he doesnt "daily" try to kill sonic. also. it legit says in IDW what @Blazieth said.

@DoomSlayer-gj8qb

20 күн бұрын

@@overuseanimations4590 classic series.

@antunderexist692

19 күн бұрын

@@DoomSlayer-gj8qb Eggman can just blow up entire Earth while sonic sleeping or etc remember

*Bro Eggman actually having character development* Eggman already let two gods and a bowser ripoff double cross him there’s no way he’s gonna let some Donald Duck looking ass do that to him

@RWSfan2024

Ай бұрын

Donald Duck lol

@kalamitus2269

Ай бұрын

nah more like scrooge mcduck looking ahh 😂

@Salone_FD

Ай бұрын

Also Neo Metal

Can we all appreciate the eggman voice in this dub? Really fucking good.

@TeamMarioandSonicDubbing

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!! ❤️❤️

He was lucky eggman didnt make an announcment when he first entered

@mrdonutswildride7808

Жыл бұрын

Starline at least kept his wife out of it.

@Door227

3 ай бұрын

IVE COME TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT

@amorflos

3 ай бұрын

“I have an announcement to make”

@amorflos

3 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/mKmZtLeiZaS9h7Q.htmlsi=3MlXJFUZToIK1X6a

@grandboy6879

3 ай бұрын

"HAHA, REFERENCE!"

Starline is just lucky Eggman didn't decide to whip out the Nokia.

@nightmare9930

Жыл бұрын

"I'm gonna make sure you use a Samsung tablet to make phone calls for the rest of your life!"

@reaperflar273

Жыл бұрын

@@nightmare9930 I can go golden

@philipjamora2345

Жыл бұрын

@@reaperflar273 gold this

@Federation-Cosmo-Bolt

Жыл бұрын

@@philipjamora2345 "Oh Sh*t Wait a Minute!"

@nightmare9930

Жыл бұрын

@@Federation-Cosmo-Bolt *frieza fucking dies*

Honestly, scenes like this make you realise Eggman isn't a pushover. Sonic is just so OP its not even *fair*

@omgitzthunderlol4598

2 ай бұрын

Eggman admits he could kill sonic with a carpet bomb but there is no fun in that

@ashwolf2006

2 ай бұрын

@@omgitzthunderlol4598 he respects sonic as much as he hates him, and if he is going to beat the blue furball he want's to beat him using his intellect and not brute force or back handed schemes.

@calebdemosthene284

2 ай бұрын

​@@omgitzthunderlol4598he has to prove he better

Eggman was like: ITS TIME YOU FIND OUT WHY IM THE ONLY VILLIAN THAT TRULY CAN STAND AGAINST SONIC!

@i_like_videogames9517

2 ай бұрын

Eggman: What? Solaris? Infinite? Erazor Djinn? The End? Chaos? Mph, those are all WEAKLINGS.

@ashwolf2006

2 ай бұрын

@@i_like_videogames9517 why did i suddenly hear It has to be this way playing in the background.

Quick reminder that Eggman is still and always has been a scary villain, he never lost his touch, sure he can be a tad goofy, but his mind is always calculating his mistakes, his repetitive nature is not arrogance but him experimenting with multiple similar trials, each slightly different, every bit of information is stored and processed into his mind, he’s always learning and adapting

We overlook his design choice for each mech with his signature face and smile. So when he himself shows that face in the shadows with his grinning face he emits the terror of what the image truly bestows, FEAR. He is the EGGMAN.

This showed that Eggman can actually be a threat against his opponents, but I think the reason Eggman was able to beat Starline was because he could predict what Starline would do against him, which is why Eggman can't defeat Sonic, Sonic is very unpredictable in a fight so Eggman is unable to predict what Sonic will do

@firekoovin3347

10 ай бұрын

bro what are you saying, all sonic does is say "gotta go fast durrrr" and then molest eggman.

@megablueflash1816

10 ай бұрын

​@@firekoovin3347Because that worked so well for Sonic in Unleashed. Or SA2. Or Forces...

@firekoovin3347

10 ай бұрын

@@megablueflash1816 i might of not of known specifically how he takes Ls but i sort of already know that this dude has God feats

@crosspathofficial9414

10 ай бұрын

@@firekoovin3347😂😂😂

@VestedUTuber

10 ай бұрын

This, plus as he himself stated previously Eggman doesn't typically go for the easy option against Sonic. What we see here is what Eggman's capable of when he takes the kid's gloves off.

you learned you lesson the HARD WAY starline. eggman is not to be messed with he's not like sonic who will put up with you. eggman is a user, he uses everything he has to complete his goals _no matter the cost_ . it doesn't matter if that involves saving sonic and teaming up with him or using innocent mobians like you, he will do whatever it takes to win and rule the world and he _ALONE_ will be the one to sit on a golden throne nobody else. thats the type of person eggman is.

It's like what Eggman said in the fandub, he's the one before gru, he's... Egggru.

@Sayoriplier

26 күн бұрын

"Gottem"

The day Eggman drops the ego and focuses on doing as much as he can regardless of himself is the day he wins, but it's also the day he stops being Eggman

@qbertsandy1367

2 ай бұрын

Mr Tinker

@ashtonboutwell6154

Ай бұрын

​@@qbertsandy1367no. Mr. Tinker is the good version.

@ashtonboutwell6154

Ай бұрын

​@@qbertsandy1367but yes if he was on the good side he would win, by helping sonic with enemies beyond just eggman.

@bobnoko9105

Ай бұрын

Remember in the Archie comics when Eggman snapped I think that's the version

@WarioWareCEO

Ай бұрын

​@@qbertsandy1367Out with Eggman. *In with Robotnik*

People make the mistake of thinking "Haha, Eggman can't even defeat a speedy blue hedgehog!" What people should be really thinking: "Oh f*ck, it takes running around at the speed of sound to even have a snowball's chance of winning..." Thinking about it, the reason why Dr. Robotnic might have obvious flashing weak points on his machines is because those points are the reason the rest of the robot is INVINCIBLE. Theoretically, Sonic, with his powers, should be able to break Robotnic's machines in any way he desires. Yet, it's only damaged when the glowing weak points are attacked. My theory is that they are some kind of kinetic force negation devices, that convert forces that would normally cause structural failure into light energy, which is then dispersed out of the robot. Once these are destroyed, whatever remaining latent kinetic energy that wasn't dispersed destroy the machine.

@mistermann4163

Жыл бұрын

Or ya know that's just a videogame mechanic for players to know when to attack the enemy since that doesn't explain every other robot that Eggman has in his arsenal that doesn't have a glowing weak point yet breaks like their made of styrofoam in one hit. That includes from everyone else who's fought them. Eggman goes at Sonic more like a slow burn to just prove his superiority while ignoring everything else until it comes back to bite him in the ass. That includes Starline here, during the Metal Virus arc in that Starline went out of his was to impress Eggman in recruiting the Zeti to control the Metal Virus. Only for the Zeti to betray them because Starline didn't do his homework about Eggman and his relationship with the Zeti to which they kicked him off the ship, took the Emeralds to supercharge themselves, and nearly took over the world themselves all because Eggman overlooked what his fanboy was doing at the time.

@TarsonTalon

11 ай бұрын

@@mistermann4163 Bruh, I understand that yes, it's just a mechanic, and the developers didn't think of the ramifications. But I am thinking of the ramifications, and this is now my personal head canon. Speaking of which, I'll add another: Intelligence is not equal to wisdom. Intelligence is about being able to accomplish something with science; wisdom is about being able to figure out if you should or shouldn't. And yes, there's a lot of things Robotnic and Starline just shouldn't have done. I think the problem is that, while they are genius inventors, they SUCK at being commanders. Their primary tactics seem to be "Random bullsh*t, GO!" If Sonic had gone up against an actually competent strategist, say, Thrawn from Star Wars, he'd probably lose. I personally would be trying everything in my power to take away Sonic's primary asset, which is his speed. However if it is Archie Sonic, screw that, ain't going anywhere NEAR that.

@WazzpinatorReviews-or1zb

2 ай бұрын

I think eggman purposely builds weak points into his mechs to test sonic. He once said he keeps sonic around for outside stimulus, as every engineer needs some outside variable to motivate themselves and to compete against. In other words, eggman keeps sonic around to test himself.

After playing Sonic Riders as a kid, I wondered why Eggman was a power type. Years in later games and comics, it all makes sense.

@qua_xor3348

3 ай бұрын

Why did I read this in Sonic's voice lmao

remember that Eggman is a 7 foot person in a world with 4 foot people

@jefeover945

2 ай бұрын

buddy is used to looking down on people💀

@WazzpinatorReviews-or1zb

2 ай бұрын

And that he competes with a supersonic hedgehog daily, eggman only looks weak because he is constantly compared to sonic. When you realize he is hard enough to take a hit from sonic, and pilot a mech (and other assorted machinery) fast enough to keep up with the supersonic hedgehog, PLUS he can canonically outrun sonic in the games, you realize eggman is borderline superhuman!

Yikes! Who knew Eggman had such a powerful slam attack.

@ashtonboutwell6154

Ай бұрын

7ft has a large build, and once out ran sonic on his feet.

@ashtonboutwell6154

Ай бұрын

But to be honest. No one until this happened.

The way Eggman just casually beats up animals with his bare hands is just funny believe they going to do call the police for animal abuse

@Mikescool444

Жыл бұрын

What are they going to do, arrest his skyscraper-sized robot mech that can level cities?

it's official, Eggman is not fat, he's fucking jacked!

@Issengan

Ай бұрын

kinda the same with kingpin in marvel, eggman just doesnt have much of a reason to fight with his fists because sonic's just that much faster

@mightythehalfsaiyanhedgeho7286

Ай бұрын

@@Issengan exactly!

Fun fact: Eggman can in fact throw hands. Even knuckles has a hard time as Eggman has the superior height and reach advantage when not including added augment equipment. And explains why most characters don't directly engage him alone or in close quarters. Eggman is prideful and spiteful yes but as the video shows, he isn't an idiot. Mistakes are quickly analyzed and touched upon to create fail safes and countermeasures.

' Approximately 2% of my body is made of fat. The other 98% is pure muscle. ' 4:05 ' Allow me to show you what the 98% can do. '

@Red_Ryry

2 ай бұрын

Dude is literally just Wilson Fisk from marvel comics but with a lankier build. Literally peak human performance, the ideal male form.

@U_DYT2

2 ай бұрын

We should all grow to be like Eggman. …wait

Eggman is a scientist and more than likely modified his own body whether through augmented biology or by cybernetic enhancements. He is more than capable of just simply punching people into oblivion, but chooses not to most of the time.

@weaponizedpizza8825

Ай бұрын

He doesn't need robot arms. He's a seven foot tall goliath fighting a three foot tall platypus.

@ashtonboutwell6154

Ай бұрын

No. Well not this one. He is using he raw power of his "mortal body".

@jayb9310

Ай бұрын

Dude builds his own mechs, he's got enough strength behind those arms to go toe to toe with Mike Tyson

@icicle_ai

Ай бұрын

He's quite possibly the descendent of Theodore Roosevelt

@NebulaSon

Ай бұрын

Well, It's a universe with walking talking, speedy, spindashing, strong animals. What makes us so confident that the humans there can't do the same and usually just choose to rely on technology?

I think people forget that his fight with sonic is a game to eggman. Especially more so in the comics. He loves his mad scientist role, and plays is perfectly. But it sometimes undermines the fact that he is, undeniably, completely INSANE in a way that makes him way more dangerous than people assume.

@calebdemosthene284

2 ай бұрын

Kinda.he wants to prove he is better than sonic by playing this game his way.

ppl tend to forgot that eggman is a mastermind, the only reason he loses to sonic is that this hedghog breaks all laws of physics

@yasquishyboi902

10 ай бұрын

it’s like detective zenyata, dude gets trounced a lot by lupin but he’s fighting the criminal equivalent of fucking shakespeare, dude puts down standard criminals like clockwork

@d.k.islander8095

10 ай бұрын

Not just that. The doctor often lets his ego and desire to beat Sonic blind him. He can learn when he wants to, he just chooses not to

That was one hell of a command grab punish from Dr. Eggman.

People forget that the only thing stopping Eggman from taking over, is sonic himself. Without sonic Eggman would’ve won a long time ago and this shows how sadistic he can be

@franztheprussian4166

9 ай бұрын

The start of the IDW comics actually plays after Eggman ruled the earth for half a year because he managed to trap Sonic. The world was only freed from him because they busted Sonic out. A really long time passed and they're still dealing with consequences of the initial conquest all the way up to issue 65 and his first major ploy with the metal virus almost succeeded and I'd argue its failure was entirely due to Dr. Starline lacking the foresight he ironically accused Eggman of lacking by summoning the Six. People forget how frightening Dr. Ivo Robotnik can be because of how he has been portrayed in the games in the past few games and shows. They just went overboard with the goofyness. I'm happy IDW didn't go that path

@fort2558

9 ай бұрын

Meanwhile Sonic's just as capable friends in question

@lorefox201

9 ай бұрын

it's not even just sonic, it's his strange obsession with him. Eggman basically trips on his own brain every time That Hedgehog is involved because he has a very specific idea of what defeating him looks like and circumstances simply fail to align for that idea to come to fruition because, in short, sonic is so fast it's OP. I think Egg said to starline himself once "I could nuke him from orbit at any time but THAT wouldn't prove anything". tldr: if he wasn't out to specifically defeat sonic in such away as to prove his unfathomable genius and superiority, he would have just drone struck his home like he was Obama and Sonic was an Iraqi kid in 2009 and it would have been over.

@pacifistminigun3987

9 ай бұрын

​@@lorefox201 so, Eggman's ego really is his own biggest downside

@lorefox201

9 ай бұрын

@@pacifistminigun3987 exactly

Starline didn't know that eggman has a near perfect idyllic memory or perfect photographic memory meaning he remembers everything

@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth

Жыл бұрын

This is an interesting concept... someone who appears as though they aren't listening, because they know they can go back and consider what you said later.

@anthonyrodriguez8788

Жыл бұрын

That is utter nonsense, he forgets stuff all the time.

@Sentralkontrol

Жыл бұрын

Eidetic

@bigbosses4686

Жыл бұрын

@@anthonyrodriguez8788 He does, but that's usually out of cockiness and that's one of his only things holding him back. Once he takes things seriously (like here), you can't outsmart him.

This ain't a fight. This is Eggman beating the shit out of Starline

TFW you consider every possibility expect eggman just beating you up with his fists 💀

@Bluesit32

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that had to be the one thing he never expected. He's a fat guy who travels in a hovership and pilots mechs. How tough could he be? Apparently, tougher than a psychotic platypus.

@SuperGamefreak18

Жыл бұрын

@@Bluesit32that isn’t fat not exactly a lot of that is pure strongman build like. Kingpin

@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8

Жыл бұрын

@@Bluesit32 that moment when the egg is several times taller than you and has longer arms than yours:

@Bluesit32

Жыл бұрын

@@SuperGamefreak18 Pfft...oh no it isn't. Look at those toothpick arms and legs.

People seem to forget that Doctor Eggman loses so much because he goes against demigod hedgehog Sonic and his friends. Normal people? with normal physiques? Obstacles to be tossed aside like paper. He COMPLETELY defeats that duck; Outsmarts him at every turn, and when the chips are down, THROTTLES HIM.

@GuyGuyGuyG

9 ай бұрын

Good comment though I just want to say that he’s actually a platypus.

@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606

9 ай бұрын

@@GuyGuyGuyG A Platypus?

@lorefox201

9 ай бұрын

​@@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606 yes, isn't that even cooler, they got to basically draw a Disney comic character in their comic and Disney itself could only seethe impotently

@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606

9 ай бұрын

@@lorefox201 PERRY the Platypus?!?!?!

@lorefox201

9 ай бұрын

@@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606 CURSE YOU PERRY THE PLATYPUS

"Congratulations, my dear Starlink. You really *are* following in my footsteps."

@cheesebird4057

Жыл бұрын

Ouch.

difference with starline and Eggman is that Eggman adapts and overcomes his failures

@Nombrenooriginal

Жыл бұрын

The problem is his own ego

Sonic by himself is fast enough to break the laws of physics, and he has Tails at his side, the only one smart enough to rival Eggman. In some versions, he has Knuckles and Amy on the team, two bruisers who crumple metal like paper. And Eggman *still* manages to fight them to a standstill on multiple occasions. He is not the one with whom to fuck.

remember eggman is supposedly around 6’1-6’3 and he builds his machines usually himself, machines that probably weigh a lot. Bro has the size and strength of a steelworker and the brains of a genius in a world where everyone is the size of a toddler

@hisirhow3476

2 ай бұрын

step 1: drain his glove step 2: beat the &*(# out of him

@Eldoofus

2 ай бұрын

It's funny because Starline probably wouldn't have been smashed like a flyswatter if he didn't attempt kicking Eggman... then again, that platypus was doomed to fail from the moment he decided to give the veterans a lesson.

you know you fucked up when Eggman starts throwing hands

4:05 eggman finally realized that hes 2 feet taller that the dude hes fighting

@luiginumbers6268

2 ай бұрын

6ft v 5’11

People usually forget just how dangerous eggman can be physically. Such as him straight up OUTRUNNING SONIC on multiple occasions.

@bwilson7947

Жыл бұрын

also the fact that most sonic characters don't even weight that much and isn't egg man like 7 foot or something?

@ashtonboutwell6154

Жыл бұрын

@@bwilson7947 2 inchs shorter then that but yes

My dream is finally coming into frui- Eggman: please shut the hell up.

Considering Starline idolized Eggman and brought him back when he lost his memories as Mr. Tinker. This beating was very much poetic karma and well deserved. Being ended by the very monster he brought back from the dead.

The thing that this duck guy (I haven’t read the IDW comics) didn’t consider is that Eggman and Sonic have a Megamind-Metroman dynamic, they always put on a show while holding back their full power so that fighting doesn’t become boring they always banter and play up their roles of mad scientist and teenage superhero but against other enemies they are a force to be reckoned with.

@ShinigamiSamaH

2 ай бұрын

For some context: First off, the dude is a platypus. And you are right about the Megamind/Metroman dynamic. It's essentially the entire arc with Starline, really. He first showed up asking to be Eggman's sidekick, seeing him as his idol and acting like the #1 fan who know all the Eggman trivia. That rose tinted glasses is gone when he saw his hero in action however. He saw Eggman as a bumbling fool who get too dramatic with fighting Sonic instead of the objective, thus ending up losing every time. For Eggman, he visibly get upset and almost wring Starline's neck when the platypus went and booby trapped Sonic and Silver with an explosive. He always pretend to ignore or dismiss Starline's ideas, but is actually paying attention at everything he said. Just in case. To paraphrase Eggman: "I could always just carpet bomb the hedgehog and his friends, but if I don't conquer the world MY WAY then what's the point?"

@omgitzthunderlol4598

2 ай бұрын

@@ShinigamiSamaHI admit I respect that sonic and eggman could one shot each other but they want to win fair and square

Eggman being only a shadow and eyes looked like sickler in my closet

Remember eggman is the equivalent of a 8 foot tall absolute unit, sonic characters are really small close to him the reason he doesn't throw hands often is because he might be a bit of a glass cannon

@ashtonboutwell6154

Жыл бұрын

yeah.

@funninoriginal6054

Жыл бұрын

And also because most of team sonic have their powers to back them up. But im fairly sure Eggman could manhandle most of the animal people, including the ones in team sonic without innate powers like Tails.

@littlebadassgaming

Жыл бұрын

​@@funninoriginal6054 i wanna see eggman hit the gym and throw hands with super sonic.

@Tha-mountain

Жыл бұрын

@@littlebadassgaming I want a training montage

@Ginfeldi

Жыл бұрын

Y'all saw boom Eggman? dude looks that he can recreate that Omni man vs Red rush scene against Sonic

True Eggman style, dudes got to much pride to let someone do all the work. So much he beat his ass for even offering a team up.

man woke up and just said "ok plan for the day: get some coffee, make some plans, throw some hands"

The 300iq scientist vs 200iq scientist is obvious

I mean, if Eggman can participate in Olympic Boxing, then he MUST have some fighting chops...

Sonic: wait a minute eggman can throw hands too 😮

Eggman folded starline like an omelette

@mr.shplorb662

3 ай бұрын

He folded their clothes with them in them

That moment were eggman exiting the wreckage he looks legitimately terrifying

Starline was right about one thing. He’s a failure. While he wallows in his self pity, Eggman would simply plan for the next thing.

@tremor230

3 ай бұрын

Starline cries and bitches and moans. Robotnik instead goes, "Okay, here is a list of the 2347 things that went wrong. Next time I am accounting for them!" ... while raging and throwing a fit. 😂 It's all a matter of how they react, mostly.

@nameless5512

3 ай бұрын

@@tremor230 Exactly, and Eggman, whilst has his own faults, doesn’t dwell on the past. We all saw what Starline unleashed by prying at old wounds.

Egg really be giving him the "bitch, you thought!" treatment

@Victor-056

9 ай бұрын

He also did a Jojo Pose when approaching Starlight.

Eggman smiling while shadowed is intimidating as hell

@TeamMarioandSonicDubbing

Жыл бұрын

It shows how intimidating Eggman can truly be!

@ashtonboutwell6154

Жыл бұрын

@@TeamMarioandSonicDubbing I mean he almost killed all of the residence on the planet with the metal virus. and watched sonic struggle MOCKING HIM LIKE A TOY, and so on.

Honestly laughed my ass off watching Eggman SLAM HIM AROUND like Hulk ragdolling Loki in Avengers

@bradleyadams5252

Жыл бұрын

Puny god...

It's been a year but gonna just say it anyway. IT'S LIKE BRO'S BEEN FUCKING AROUND WITH SONIC THIS WHOLE TIME-

@GokuFromFornite

10 күн бұрын

Joker and Batman type shi 💀

@daanstrik4293

8 күн бұрын

Sonic is stupidely powerfull. Same for his friends. The fact eggman can even challenge him in the first place should tell you everything you’d ever need to know about eggman

@ahawdjkmwodjikma6543

6 күн бұрын

he basically has been, according to the comics. he knows he can defeat sonic and crush the resistance with ease, but he wants to do it his own way. like starline said, he could easily just carpet bomb sonic in his sleep and that would be that, but eggman's pride is far too deep into the rivalry to resort to cheap tactics like that. he wants to destroy sonic with a creation that can surpass him. a mech or a robot that can defeat his one true nemesis. if he can't beat one fast hedgehog at his own game, is he really the greatest inventor?

@Bomberman-aiw94

6 күн бұрын

Damn. IDW Eggman is the most intimidating Version of a Game character ever.

You know the saying "Never meet your heroes 'cause you might be disappointed." Well this whole situation is the very definition of it.

@lorefox201

9 ай бұрын

I wouldn't call getting beaten to a pulp "disappointment"

@TVmantitan779

3 ай бұрын

​@lorefox201, if anything, this showed Starline why Sonic is THAT much of a powerhouse that he's the only thing that keeps Eggmah from no diffing the entire IDW verse.

This isn't a fight. This is a massacre. Starline had no chance.

4:22 That has to be the worst feeling. Planning for every single thing, having a contingency for everything and still getting his shit kicked in.

@lucasmartinez5703

7 ай бұрын

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.

@FlannelManiac

3 ай бұрын

Luffy vs Doffy

@togeluga_the_cat

3 ай бұрын

Starline was playing chess while Eggman was actualy doing something

@TVmantitan779

3 ай бұрын

​@togeluga_the_cat Eggman: YOU FOOL STARLINE YOUR OWN CREATIONS CAN OUTSMART YOU BUT MINE CAN'T! SHOULDN'T THAT TELL YOU THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US?!

@boffadeeznuts6312

2 ай бұрын

What eggman probably feels every time sonic fucks shit up, but unlike Perry the Platypus over here, the good doctor has an unbreakable will to defeat that rotten hedgehog.

We keep forgetting...eggman has an IQ of over 300

@ashtonboutwell6154

Жыл бұрын

300 on the dot his iq is 300.

People often forget that eggman, for all his intellect, is also quite physical strong

@bradleyadams5252

Жыл бұрын

Jim carry robotnik had some military training.

THIS EGG GOT HANDS!

@BobThePenguin.

10 ай бұрын

In Soviet Russia, the egg scrambles you.

2:40 this has got to be one of the creepiest moments in sonic. I never though Eggman could do much of anything in a fight without some kind of robot. But this fight just blows that idea out of the water

Eggman can break SOLID ICE so i feel plenty of bones are broken

@galaxycamerata

Жыл бұрын

Dude can punch a fucking freight train down the rails in Riders.

@gabeskai

Жыл бұрын

​@@galaxycamerata....holy shit he WAS a power type wasn't he?

@shadow98004

Жыл бұрын

​@@gabeskai makes sense, he's a grown ass man in a world of short talking animals. That, and he's come into contact with the Chaos Emeralds _how_ many times over the years? Coming into contact with that kind of energy so many times has to have had _some_ sort of effect on him.

@Mikescool444

Жыл бұрын

@@shadow98004 that, and he’s built the same way Gru is. You ever heard of the Gru true girth copypasta?

ladies and gentleman, dr eggman at his best, as far as we know at least

It's easy to forget that despite always relying on his mechs for battle, Eggman is still a grown ass man compared to the small mobians and can still throw hands by himself

@XROSSGAMES

2 ай бұрын

in one of the games he basically destroys an ice wall punching it out off rage so he is not a weakling at all

@jgoofy8233

2 ай бұрын

@@XROSSGAMES yeah in Lost World The Zeti absolutely pissed him off

@clone6141

2 ай бұрын

Yeah its just the mobians he fights are ones who can absolutely beat his ASS even tails in a fist fight could beat eggman up

Can't wait for “Eggman wins with prep time” to become a meme

@MysticPlasma

3 ай бұрын

the Egg needs no prep time, he runs your fade RAW

@Red_Ryry

2 ай бұрын

It would be funny but like, all of his plans already require an incredible amount of prep time. You don’t chain entire planets together and build 5 amusement parks on them without prep time. Also the intro sequence to sonic unleashed was actually him pulling a similar stunt and using prep time… he just kind of made the mistake of not confiscating his opponents weapon before discarding the loser. (In unleashed’s case the chaos emeralds, in this case he confiscated the hypnotic glove)

Eggman after watching senator Armstrong once

4:18 Now Starline knows EXACTLY how Eggman feels.

@lorefox201

9 ай бұрын

no he doesn't because eggman doesn't care about defeats he just tries again.

I've seen eggman create robots,survive an explosion,survive the most dangreous situations,but ever in my life.....never seen eggman weave a kick and throw hands OH MY LORD I'D BE COOK IF I GET PULLED UP AND SEEN HIM

@georgemelton9017

3 ай бұрын

Bro he learned martial arts bruh sonic your spin dash ain't gonna help you this time

@bloodkraft

2 ай бұрын

Bro Just imagine = Sonic Expidetion egg man boss he just insta kills you💀

Lets not forget, eggman is STILL a power class and has an IQ of 300. somehow outruns sonic to get into his mech, punch a wall down if he worked out more, and was close enough to dominate the world. He is still and will always a force to be reconned with if sonic is not their to stop him at every turn. (these are feats I've seen him do in sonic games not counting the Olympics.)

@purpderp

Жыл бұрын

Eggman can't outrun sonic its pretty clear sonic was either fatigued or holding back

@wailmoregd140

Жыл бұрын

@@purpderp Sonic the Hedgehog 2, Eggman keeps pace with or flat out outruns Sonic on his way to the Death Egg Robot. He later repeats this feat in Sonic the Hedgehog 4. This is pretty common knowledge.

@purpderp

Жыл бұрын

@wailmoregd140 however it's most likely he has holding back or tired had we never see eggman do anything on that level again

@thetealturtwig5667

Жыл бұрын

he's kinda like the Bandits of Skyrim. A legitimate and serious threat to everyone except the character who's pov we've got.

Makes me wonder how a bossfight in a sonic game against techless robotnik would be like

@Shagaru_Bleed

Ай бұрын

One sentence: "The best zoner in the game is a fucking grappler!"

@Salone_FD

Ай бұрын

@@Shagaru_Bleed Stop activating the Z Broly PTSD!

@ThatGamer489

29 күн бұрын

@@Salone_FD*grab* *slam* *super*

Yeah this is literally Eggmans 300 IQ coming into play he single handedly considered potential betrayal even before it even manifested into Starline's head and listened to all the juicy info he ever gave and thought up contingencies for his every move possible that he already lost before he began ploting and just lead him to that ultimate failure so the only way a person could of have had been able to destroy Eggman is if hes smqrt enough to fool him in a way he cannot detect and thats a tall order none have accomplished

@Acrossdapond445

Жыл бұрын

Eggman is basically batman

@Mikescool444

Жыл бұрын

@@Acrossdapond445 this is what people are talking about when they give Batman prep time.

@Bluesit32

Жыл бұрын

It's more than that. Eggman listened to everything Starline said while maintaining an air of indifference, as if ignoring him. It was that behavior that caused Starline to never consider that he would develop counter measures. It's brilliant.

@lianaverwood9810

Жыл бұрын

Starline _did_ rival Eggman *in Intellect,* but _his Ego and Idolization of the Doctor_ is what was used against him. Dr Eggman could easily see that *Starline wouldn't let himself stay just a lackey,* and aimed to be _at least Equal Partners with him..._ So Eggman started by trying to *dissuade Starline's Emulation of him:* he acted like _the most Egotistical Jerk he could_ towards him, but it backfired - *Starline's obsession grew greater,* and he took it _as another Lesson;_ So he *kicked Starline out much softer than he could've,* and carried on, knowing that he'd likely have to deal with this problem _more thoroughly later_ - *he wasn't Wrong;* Then Dr Starline made his move - _taking control of most of his Badniks_ and one of his _Largest Cities._ Bringing *his own Biological Sonic Knock-Offs* out to fight their Rivals, and *weilding a* _Heroes-Inspired_ *Powerset,* he sought to _destroy the entire City_ to bring Sonic down - wasting so much of *EGGMAN'S resources* to do it! Dr Eggman didn't want to _beat_ Starline, he wanted *to Humiliate him.* To prove to him that *No Plan* _has enough Contingencies or Fail-Safes_ to succeed against someone *thinking and adapting at a Super-Sonic Speed* - something _Eggman has learnt to contend with,_ *and Match* whenever he fights Sonic... Being locked out of his more Modern *Death-Egg-Class Battle Robots,* Dr Eggman chose _an older Model_ that Starline would recognize - *the Egg Emperor from Sonic Heroes.* He understood that _when_ he out-piloted Starline with it, he'd resort to *the Tri-Power Glove - and waste its Energy* in *a display of the same powers* the Egg Emperor had fallen to previously. This would leave Starline with _just his Hypno-Glove_ to work with - a laughable issue to protect himself from. *All* of this comes from just _Eggman being Observant_ and being _able to Think on the Fly_ - if Starline could come up with something he didn't predict, *then* they'll have proven themselves to him! Needless to say, Dr Starline _failed to surpass his Expectations._ His Ego made him do *everything* Eggman predicted he would, leaving him _Powerless in a one-on-one physical Fight_ - where Dr Eggman *towered over him, literally!* A couple of attacks _unsuited for Intellectuals like themselves_ later, and Starline was *Broken - Physically and Psychologically...*

GOD DAMN EGGMAN CAN THROW HANDS

Idk what is more cursed, Eggman being able to throw hands or Zoro having sense of direction

I _adore_ the throwback to Sonic Heroes, seeing the Egg Emperor come out of mothballs for another epic battle. But not as much as I adore Robotnik reminding everyone why he's the only Doctor anyone remembers! 🥚

Bro when he grabbed the leg was like: damn... *he really bouta rock my shit.*

Reminds me of a scene in AoStH where Robotnik effortlessly heaves up 300 lbs of ham. Secret monster

@pixelate609

Ай бұрын

i mean everyone in the sonic universe is more impressive than you'd think at first glance

@user-nm1eu1xu1j

24 күн бұрын

reminds me of how in sonic x, he just punched one of the ark's turrets to break it (I only remember seeing a screenshot of that scene though)

@hypothetic_

22 күн бұрын

eggman isn't fat, that's all muscle

seeing eggman outsmarting a villian like that only shows how good is he as a villian and how formidable is sonic as his nemesis making him look like a clawn most of the time

@nakedmario9359

2 ай бұрын

Nha eggman is just playing with sonic he doesnt want to out right kill sonic he want humilate him

@Chuyandknuckles

2 ай бұрын

@@nakedmario9359yea, he could kill Sonic if he wanted too.

@luiginumbers6268

2 ай бұрын

@@Chuyandknucklescoming from someone who hasn’t played a Sonic game, that werewolf one seemed like eggman could’ve just killed Sonic outright instead of turning Sonic into an even greater furry. Bro took him out of super form by force, so it doesn’t really seem like he’s going for the kill until his greater plan is complete.

@HaxeRain

2 ай бұрын

​@@luiginumbers6268the thing is, he expected the orbit reentry and fall to kill sonic, he is even like "I shouldn't even be surprised at this point you managed to survive THAT" and it was all cus Light Gaia bailed him from the fall, there is also that Sonic equally could have just finished eggman, but chooses not to because that's his moral code, he says it in this comic against Surge, him killing eggman or any villain would mean removing their ability to choose and exercise their freedom, he let's everyone choose and be free to do what they want but will stop them if they want to stop that for others, they both are ideal rivals for each other with their own morals and the moment one kills the other forgoing them, they will have lost in the end too

@teamprimeknockout9671

Ай бұрын

Exactly, it's not the endgoal for Eggman/Robotic, but the process of defeating Sonic. Sonic won't kill out of his moral compass, and Eggman 'fights' for every victory against Sonic: enemies with an unconscious respect for each other, even if Eggman doesn't realize it.