StarCraft 2: The Hydralisk Timing Push!
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Easily one of the most powerful Zerg vs Protoss timing attacks.
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In this match of Zerg versus Protoss I play while giving commentary to the game. I decide to focus my efforts on executing a timing attack with Hydralisks. The push is powerful, as it can stop aggression from your opponent off of two bases, and it can easily deal with a third Nexus of the Protoss as well.
In this video I explain how to execute this Zerg build order and how to obtain the victory in the majority of your games in Zerg versus Protoss.
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4:52 Drone escort lol.
I bet you thought of this while managing 9 control groups of hydras in the Remastered campaign :D
@Orange_Tree_
6 жыл бұрын
Stefan Dobrev Lowko just won't leggo SC:BW. XD
7:34 Have you ever wondered what the evil of cheese sounds like?
"Plays greedily, doesn't harass zerg properly giving him all the ability to overtake a protoss, doesn't use Oracle to scout for more extra info or uses Phoenix hallucinations to scout at all or build a decent army if going that greedy. Proceeds to complain about Hydra A move OP"
@anharun
6 жыл бұрын
VerySalty Fries have 7 gateway and forget to change to warpgate
Love the "if this doesn't happen by this time, that probably means this" commentary. VERY useful. Thanks! I'll keep my eyes peeled at the 5min mark from now on!
It’s nice to see someone finally using hydralisks as a Timing push.
You came out with a video awhile ago of drop lings and i got to almost 70% win rate with protoss, since the patch ive dropped down to 50 with the new stalkers. Pretty excited to try this build out. Ty lowko :)
Can't wait to try this out when I'm back home, another great video lowko
Love this build
please do more of these live gameplays, i love them so much :)
Your opponent didn't scout. Did he really think he could go double forge, almost 0 units, nothing out on the map? It's a cheesy timing push, but if you're essentially giving up map control, you can expect shenanigans.
@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong
6 жыл бұрын
sfukuda512 Ikr? I wonder how he managed to get up that high in his MMR.
@Orange_Tree_
6 жыл бұрын
He was playin against Lowko. He didn't expect SC:BW strats.
@f00dify
6 жыл бұрын
he may not have ever seen this stratagy before or rarely saw it
@Ichorslick99
6 жыл бұрын
*@f00dify* : But from his reaction at the end, he made it sound like he's running into it all the time... Maybe he'll see this video and get some ideas.
@simonlindstrom2041
6 жыл бұрын
im gold but i do actually scout compared to our protoss player
Love u Lowko from Italy!
0.58. love that voice lowko
Great video lowko :D
I suppose it's nice to have 2 descriptions of the same game (it's like a binocular vision - strategy wise, and Lowko is definitely good at explaining things).... ;-)
Amazing video, Lowko!!! ;) enjoyed it a lot... i´ll try this build this weekend ;)
THANK YOU LOWKO YEAH
Lowko I love your videos! If possible, when doing videos like this, could you put an example build order in the video description?
i do like this kind of videos, i mean back in the time one or two years you made lots and lots of these and i started to play the zerg race wich is my favourite now, i climbed higher and higher on the ladder to platinum 1 and than i just stopped. but now i started to climb again. So go ahead, if you can do not forget about this kind of videos.
@attilalorincz9910
6 жыл бұрын
of course christmas time is christmas time, be with family! and not in front of a pc
I just won a game using this build, thanks man!
4:46 did you take those 2 drones for a walk or something?
@voidyland1554
6 жыл бұрын
drones need fresh air and a break.
@FlyingDominion
6 жыл бұрын
They're off to visit their families.
@avion3857
6 жыл бұрын
#waypoint struggles
I've been doing this build since hots. Except I've also added an overseer timing where i can contaminate 3-5 times while attacking.
I downloaded sc2, practiced a bit, saw a few youtube vids, refined a build, im in diamond after 2 weeks of playing lol in solo ranked
@petkofuchalski9809
6 жыл бұрын
you are good at RTS's i guess
@matrixarsmusicworkshop561
4 жыл бұрын
5 years ago I basically got platinum after such time. This time i have gold 2 after 2 days
Hi Lowko! This video are very helpful... can you do a little bit more of them ? I'd love to have a couple of options for every matchup ;)!
@Farinurlaub6
6 жыл бұрын
Same here I'm back to Starcraft 2 after a break of like 2 years and now i don't really know which build order to go. 2 years ago i was copying yours but now I'm actually missing these kinds of videos on your channel. The ones i see seem to be outdated or am i wrong?
Holy Hydra cheese Lowko!
Tried this strategy, first match was against proxy 4gate. -.-
@LowkoTV
6 жыл бұрын
Definitely need to confirm what's going on!
@asbjelasulejmani8585
6 жыл бұрын
could have won if you scouted more.
@Ghost-Raccoon
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah... He attacked me before my Overlords reached his base. Seems like I need to drone scout more.
awesome
Awesome
Hey Lowko, did you inspire this hydras push in the SC1 experiences? I did play SC1 and hydras was just awsome and fun for rushes...
Hey Lowko, now that void rays are so present in the current meta because of their buff, do you think this build would be even more useful nowadays? And would you recommend going for an evo chamber or two as well around the same time as starting lair so the timing has a bit more of a punch to it or is it preferable to just have more units earlier?
His comment looks familiar about the amove hydra... I could have sworn I saw that phrase thrown around in Wing of Liberty.
Nice
Is there a DL to this replay. Love to see where all his APM/attation was during all that. How did he have nothing to defend that?
so it's essentially a HotS style muta opener, but instead of a more expensive spire into hit and run mutas, cheaper HD into smash open the gate. Good build really punishes toss going golden armada. Think I'll start playing again and push into master 1 again
Will this be okay vs terran or zerg up to gold league, do you think? I play random & it's hard to try to have 9+ builds. But I really like hydra play.
This will be hell for protoss after the quad nerf...
@Fome
6 жыл бұрын
The quad nerf is now a triple nerf. They decided not to nerf stalkers
At lower level play, chargelots backed by immortals or void ray rushes seem popular now
"You require more minerals" to pay for your internet
@LowkoTV
6 жыл бұрын
Too soon.
@Regunes
6 жыл бұрын
LowkoTV YOU HAVE AWAKEN ME TO SOON EXECUTUS!
@keyemku6399
6 жыл бұрын
:(
@keyemku6399
6 жыл бұрын
Do not hold too much despair, it still has to go through court and the last two times they tried it failed.
Someone has been loving going mass hydras every game in BW.
please do protoss vs early mass marine rush
@anharun
6 жыл бұрын
Valentin Kiryazov you need to Adept in this situation
3:55 extractor trick? what did he achieve there?
Should i reincforce my attacks with slow units like hydras o just pure zergling?
@matrixarsmusicworkshop561
4 жыл бұрын
ok
Are those the war chest season 2 zerg skins?
As a protoss i play standard IACS against every zerg and if I'm not successfully cheesed, I found no difficulties in dealing with anything they throw at me (plat 2-3). I'm not an expert, but I think with chargelots and batteries you can stay strong against any ground pressure, untill you get two archons, immortal and +1 +1. And after this you just A move:)
Love from Germany my dude
Looking what settings do you have for the color of the halos
@LG-hv9eo
6 жыл бұрын
Lowko*
If the toss stays on 2 bases attacking as soon as you have the hydra upgrade is important. If you wait, the toss will tech up and melt your hydras with immortals, colossus or even carriers.
I have a replay that I think would make an ok video. I play as Zerg (I tried to be as pro as I could be)
Works good vs low level terron too
I unlocked ranked silver tier2 protos this week but i have no idea how to counter this as protos. I lost to it once. usualy stalker + colossi should work but most games if no hydra or no big ling threat colossi feel pretty useless most of the time. also if hydra + lurker timing is very hard to deal with if they snipe observers/cannons (wich wont even fight are there just for detection).
when will you start wings of liberty?
I do a slower variety of this: I lurker/hydra nydus in his main around 30 seconds later. If I scout the trappings of an early push I skip the nydus. If the one “doom nydus” fails, I can nydus from third to main to natural to defense at will. It works well in plat and below :3
I have a question. I play SC with a group of friends who are all around the same skill level. I'm the only Zerg player, and I can consistently win against all my friends except one. He's a Terran player who almost always rushes with MMM. I don't know how to prepare a proper defense in the early game, and even if I defeat his first push, Marines just keep running accross the map. What should I do?
@tigrangyozalyan7005
6 жыл бұрын
I am a terran but will try to help.Depending on how early he begins to attack(i.e with fast steam or before that) you can either go for roaches in the openinq into roach-hydra which is easy to overextend against or just ling baneling hydra into ultras.Don't hestitate to use some static defense as it will buy you time.
the zerg version of death ball
Shit that’s basically the build I’ve been doing for a longtime lol pulled me up from low gold a few months ago to plat 2 now
i just tried that ..... bro that s*it is insane O.O
OMG I JUST TRIED IT, THE BUILD WORKS THE BUILD WORKS THE BUILD WORKS! Now to take my revenge on all those times I was 2 base all-inn'd on Ohana when I was a kid :D Wont feel good to get timing pushed now will it Protoss?
how do i send replays ?
i'd be cool if you would also teach us what would you do as a protoss player. how would you deal with this kind of strategy. you told us the opponent's mistakes and you also told us against what this build struggle with but you didn't tell us what would you do as a toss player if you were able to scout it while going for a standard macro play. how would you react?
@eternalinsignia
6 жыл бұрын
This is why you need to scout and don't be greedy (1.8 k on protoss bank on video lol). Once it is a macro games = get good. Protoss is macro heavy.
@donweas123
6 жыл бұрын
First of all, more shit counters less shit. The toss player in the game had like no units, zerg had 118 supply, protoss had 78 with at least 53 probes (25 army supply) and wasn't spending his money. Hydras make a lot of damage, but are light units and were hydras alone, no banes and almost no lings so maybe you can start with scouting and making a shit ton chargelots or glaive adepts.
@kaiisheng
6 жыл бұрын
Cacio99 watch 11:20
@Cacio99
6 жыл бұрын
still doesn't answer the question. read all i wrote
How does he have primal units?
Did he say there's an on-screen indicator that show how many total workers you have? Where is it?
@maxcallaway7879
6 жыл бұрын
Jazar2054 just hover the cursor over your supply count in the top right; it'll show you your army supply and worker count individualy
@tylerairey1769
6 жыл бұрын
Hover over your supply in the top right, it shows both worker supply and army supply.
Kind of curious, why do protoss players put up that Cybernetics core as part of a wall? When it gets sniped that tends to be such a pain in the ass.
@_H_aruu96
6 жыл бұрын
Paulo Prieto early on its like a choice thing either they focus the wall and ignore the range unit getting free hits on the unit or.... focus on the unit with only 2 lings hitting course with range might be a different story
@BleachFan51329
6 жыл бұрын
Honestly same reason some zerg make the natural their lair (if you loose Nat=gg so why not make it have more hp); if toss looses wall in early game we loose anyways so might as well include cyber for faster and cheaper wall
Is so cool. ZERG
quick carriers should counter it, 7 minute is the time you can have few of them, also put some cannons and batieries in the front should buy some time to rebuild interceptors , i counter it many times succesfuly, of course I dont know are my diamond opponents are as great as you :)
You started this strategy because you fell in love with Hydra in SC remastered? :P
This worked against a terran opponent's Marine & Medivac attack as well. I won the game too.
Can we use slings for slow lings and flings for fast lings? please
Doesn't this build do terrible against oracles? Since you are skipping out on spores and only have 3 queens.
@Flexium_GG
6 жыл бұрын
Hally Miao did you even watch the video?
@hallymiao2825
6 жыл бұрын
2 queens with no energy for transfuse does not exactly defend the natural that well against 2 oracles.. since you can't pull that 3rd queen out of main.
@harrisoncho3501
6 жыл бұрын
he scouted that his opponent went nexus first and he delayed his spores on purpose for more income since it's impossible to get 3 min-ish Oracle with expand first
8:59 "idear"
Well, you do not build a third base without any army, especially being Protoss vs Marine or Zerg. When assault came, Protoss had 1000 & 500 in ressources.
He was floating a lot of minerals and gas. That could have been a nice army.
I played SC since I was 5yrs old😟
Honestly, I've been trying to stick to this build for some pvz games today but I always cower and go for roaches when I see zealots or adepts pushing my way xDDDD. I'm a gold player btw, any suggestions?
this is a build that I have never won against. It's pretty common in silver and gold.
That skins much like red cherry
Noice
how do you check exactly how many workers you have? o.0
@maxcallaway7879
6 жыл бұрын
Hover your cursor over your supply count in the top right, it'll give you a break down of army supply and worker count
@TheLonelysun22
6 жыл бұрын
Max Callaway ooh thanks
i never seen a Protoss NOT using photon cannons. He could of set up a better defense if he didn't make more buildings than army XD
It's good if they dont do an all-in basically
my problem is mass adept counter vs this build..... destroys it^^
Your opponent was thoroughly outplayed...
Why do you stop at 51 drones and not saturate your 3rd first ?
@LordSipher
6 жыл бұрын
Because you have to attack as quickly as possible since in this timing attack you dont attack with upgrades. So if you saturate the 3rd first, this times gives the enemy to get more upgrades done, and more counters to the hydras like collosus.
@smart_ape
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the response. I understand that you want to hit before any kind of high tech that would counter your push. I was just wondering why Lowko seemed to emphasise the 51 drones and what about this number of drones seems to be important. Couldn't you do that with 49 ? with 50 ? I'm low rank, so I'm really geniounly asking :)
I tried this, (poorly excuted i believe), and got rolled by an earlier push by the toss consisting of stalkers, sentries anda few immortals. with +1 att/shields. all at like 7/8min. Like what
Dang thats high MMR i my self only have 3.5k MMR
huhuuu...
welp, to be honest that protoss was very bad
Just played against an attempted cannon rush, and before that an attempted DT rush, and before that late game toss playing defensively with 18 Shield Batteries - "just don't let toss get to late game brah". Fuck Protoss, no offence.
I know how to beat the hydras as Toss ;D
Me as a Noob vs a Terran noob (BC) build and Protoss (Carrier) Build
Do you have any advice for extremely defensive zerg player like me?
@hmjt21
6 жыл бұрын
yes, change the race for terran.
@CoffeeD_1
6 жыл бұрын
Queeeeeeeeeeeeens more queeeeeeeeens
@SoulCrapper
6 жыл бұрын
If you're playing defensive you must master scouting. Overlord placement at key points across the map is crucial. I recommend playing 5 games vs AI (very Easy) on every map just before you ladder to familiarize yourself with safe locations to put your overlords that can spot incoming drops, proxy's, and timing pushes. Winter recommends placing your first five overlords in these places. Typically you want to put the overlord in a space where infantry can't reach them and over a piece of high ground so they can't be seen by infantry unless they have air units. Once you do that its just a matter of glancing at the minimap whenever you perform an action at your base. Whenever I inject, for example, I'm not looking at the queen I'm looking at the mini map where I placed my overlords. Same thing with most of my other macro. Lings with speed are good for holding the Xel naga towers. if you research burrow you can burrow lings across the map to scout instead if the enemy decides to make Air units to hunt down your overlords.
"hydra a move" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA He should watch the replay as well as this video.
A very good punishment for the greedy Protoss trying to bring the golden armada every single game.
that first protoss bahahahah
@ChrisHaastrup
6 жыл бұрын
to be fair tho i can relate to th salty protoss
"5 mins is the absolute lates they should be going for the third" WTF I take my thirds way later than that, when are you meant to take a third with protoss?
How to win in SC2 -- less greedy than your opponent :)
scarlett said it sucks cause she doesn't want blizz to nerf lol
You have the right to A-move and wreck people if they don't even spend their money on army lol More so, you can do anything in the game of Starcraft and no one can tell you otherwise :p
you should have asked Scarlett WHY she thinks the build is terrible that would have been more valuable than anything else lol
This basically means that by doing this you end up winning 80-90% of the games regardless what your opponent does? fuf... seems kinda broken I'm sure that there's something to stop this... if not...
@obidamnkenobi
6 жыл бұрын
it's called colossus
@emberck
6 жыл бұрын
1:25 : "I've seen a couple of protoss players opening up with quick colossus lately which has been like a bit of a counter to it as well, BUT EVEN AGAINST THAT YOU SHOULD STILL BE ABLE TO KILL YOUR OPPONENTS 3rd BASE" at first I thought Hydras-->Colossus but even Lowko says that there's not an actual counter
@nurkadurka
6 жыл бұрын
The counter is scouting and applying early pressure. Zerg is skipping roach warren and baneling nest to hit this timing, if you (as the toss) started throwing out a bunch of quick adept/chargelot pressure, it would be very hard for the zerg to deal with
@emberck
6 жыл бұрын
Yea I mean that could work, but at the end most of the lather won't be able to do it without end in an all in... I'm not so preoccupied but the comments of Lowko about the "extent" of the viability of this seems that it could be a bit off...
Hydra nerf incoming