Can 50 Colossi beat 600 Hydralisks?
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Can you predict the outcomes?
Round 1 ▶ Thor vs Marine
Round 2 ▶ Baneling vs Stalker
Round 3 ▶ High Templar vs Ghost
Round 4 ▶ Colossus vs Hydralisk
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Tya's Unit Tournament features epic battles between units in StarCraft 2, using music from the game's soundtrack. Units are chosen either Protoss, Terran and Zerg forces, or a co-op commander such as Raynor, Nova, Artanis, or Kerrigan. Units use their abilities as directed by a basic AI. All units use Legacy of the Void stats, the same units you'd see in SC2 e-sports. Though this project is a work in progress, and there are errors that will need to be fixed, so point them out if you spot any! The resource beneath vespene is the unit's cost in the mod I run on the SC2 arcade, Direct Strike. Enjoy!
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I'd love if you could put a counter next to the units box showing the amount of units left of each
@ZeraSeraphim
2 жыл бұрын
I was JUST thinking that myself!
Love the transitions between each fight!
For a moment, I thought the Colossi we're going to win lol
@vahidmoosavian6313
2 жыл бұрын
You and me both, pal😏
@andrewferguson6901
2 жыл бұрын
they had a lot of time where the top colossus were firing at like,, 3 hydras. i bet that fight could swing way in the collosus favor if they all stayed firing at center mass
@ZC.Andrew
2 жыл бұрын
That last Hydra with the 1 kill must be a goddamn hero
@alainpedance8740
2 жыл бұрын
Same. Btw how come Hydras don't have range and speed upgrade. If you have to do many hydras, you will definitely do those 2 upgrades.
@ghoraxe9000
2 жыл бұрын
They Pretty much did.. it was only a 4th of the cost.. and their where only like what 7 hydra left alive?
Stalkers get perfect blink micro, but marines don't get a simple stutter step.
@songhan1586
2 жыл бұрын
a perfect blink micro would have just blinked stalkers individually in the banelines to trigger them over 1 stalker each.
@auxiliaryboxes
2 жыл бұрын
@@songhan1586 His point stands - the stalkers had micro in their fight and the marines didn't. They could have done 5-10x DPS by just stepping forward but instead only the front row was allowed to shoot.
@undead1961
2 жыл бұрын
The program that run these fights doesn't have the scripts that let unit stutter step forward, unfortunately. It's a lot easier to code stalkers blinking back than stutter stepping forward.
@User__Not__Found
2 жыл бұрын
@@undead1961 Yes and no. If you're scripting already, it shouldn't be hard to see when the marines start shooting and stutter step (right click closer and press E repeatedly) until at least 80-90% of the marines are registered as "shooting".
@bluvalor7443
2 жыл бұрын
@@User__Not__Found how is a single time event triggered at low HP, such as blink, on the same level of coding difficulty as a complex, 2 step - happening over time behaviour? You just can't put these together into the same category. Most of programming problems sound easier on paper than their implementation is, especially since here the script would go beyond being event based.
Basically marines can turn into the swarm if you have enough minerals
@quickdraw6893
2 жыл бұрын
"What is the race that can quickly produce massive amounts of biological units in a high damage aggressive playstyle built on swiftly overwhelming the enemy? That's right, Terrans!"
@tomhe286
2 жыл бұрын
Terran has always been more zerg like than zerg in sc2. Lorewise zergs should be overwhelming terran forces with masses but in reality zerg is very defensive race while terran pushes with ant like marines
@veilnebula2411
2 жыл бұрын
@@tomhe286 Rightttt... did you even watch the Katowice tour bro ?
@tomhe286
2 жыл бұрын
@@veilnebula2411 Yes I did. Terran and protosses got owned hard by zergs once again.
@TheHighborn
2 жыл бұрын
when you start throwing hundreds of marines at the alien problem, you have to ask yourself. Are you playing SC, or W40K
good fight by that collosuses, they almost beat 4x bigger army, only 15 hydras left and most of them with red hp, so probably 2 more shoots and jobs done. Thats what I expected from the best hydra counter in the game
@TheBehm08
2 жыл бұрын
Plus nobody microd. With decent micro on the Protoss side. Pulling back any colossus without shields would’ve made this a blowout
@cbop2428
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBehm08 so would any stutter stepping / target fire from the hydras though
@mattor300
2 жыл бұрын
@@cbop2428 yea but the thing is that Hydra with micro win on creap but normally they should lose, and if it happens on anny map with hightground its just over for them
@kemalbek27
2 жыл бұрын
12 times bigger army bro
@tommythunder7498
2 жыл бұрын
So many colossus couldnt shoot and the spread of concave for hydra made the result be what it is, (straight line or with high ground(which they are used for) it would have been going the otherway)
dudeeeee that last battle was epic!!! I was like "Hydralisks are gonna win ezz" but that was a really close fight...
50 Colossi cannot beat 600 Hydras, so Hydra is OP and needs nerf confirmed.
@NecromortisQc
2 жыл бұрын
Hydra without micro :3
@Skorpion1991
2 жыл бұрын
nah collosus is the best anti hydra unit in the game, look that here it was 300 supply and 25k resources cost army of collosuses vs 1200 supply and 90k resourcest cost army, dude its 4x bigger army and still colosus almost won so shut up dude
@user-hg3bv1uv6e
2 жыл бұрын
@@Skorpion1991 Dude didn't get the irony
@who9722
2 жыл бұрын
@@Skorpion1991 So angry and for what? 🤣
@demonhunter2121
2 жыл бұрын
I think the col would win if they fought again. half the col army is shooting at like 3 hydras for a long time
Those hydras looked so done
@robbarber7253
Жыл бұрын
Once the hydras started dying off the efficiency of the collosus attack diminished so much the hydras spread out and starting winning.
For the Marines vs Thor, those marines were just standing around for 90% of their screen time. If you stepped them in so they were all shooting, they would have stood a much better chance
My blue bois would easily smash those Thors if they just stutterstepped!
@Skorpion1991
2 жыл бұрын
yep I thought the same, they shoot only from 1st line and if they made a step closer to let the backward troopers to fire marines would win that ez
Those edits are amazing. Good job!
I've noticed that the unit with greater range usually has the edge. The short range units body block eachother so that only the first row can actually shoot, while the unit with the range advantage has multiple rows of units that shoot.
@bonjovi7399
2 жыл бұрын
Unless it's against a zerg unit. Nothing matters. It wins.
such smooth transitions between fights, cool shit !
These are so satisfying to watch.
marines cant stim but stalkers can perfectly blink micro
@jameswong4837
2 жыл бұрын
That blink micro was something else though!!
@circulationfuze3986
2 жыл бұрын
dude they did stim when they engage what are u talking about
@peterwowhenning
2 жыл бұрын
@@circulationfuze3986 look at their healthbars no damage taken unless a thor is killing them
@Thomas-ui2lc
2 жыл бұрын
@@peterwowhenning some did stim. You can see the stim icon above some of the marines heads.
The fact that only a few hydras are left is amazing. That’s what happens when you hard counter an enemy army. The Protoss could have an entire army behind this assuming they had similar economies
@spaceghostcqc2137
2 жыл бұрын
like 1k in zealots to slow the hydras and this would be a totally different story.
The marines didnt concave very well, a lot of units were stuck running around in the back. Same for the colossi
the camera controls are so smooth
Humans from starcraft 1: Damn! we need one of those. The protoss dudes from starcraft 1: I know right
You should add a current unit counter as the fight happens
dumb question but its 2am so i blame that, whats the third icon, when the teams are being introduced. minerals, gas and?
These are so strangely addictive.
Can you change the color of the hp bars its really hard to see if some one is low hp
Very cool. I dont play this game but this was still interesting.
Oh man ive been watching quite a few of these and always impress myself by guessing every result correctly. Finally got it wrong on the last one here. I really thought the Colossi would win here. I feel like a lot of these close fights could go either way depending on the pathing of the AI so maybe that is just luck however.
@ZC.Andrew
2 жыл бұрын
Luck definitely plays a role, as there are several hidden stats in Starcraft 2 that are random. To test this you can stage a battle in the unit tester and run it 10 times and it will go differently each time. You can also verify this by pitting a single unit against another of the same unit and watching one of them somehow win while the other dies. it is quite interesting. Long story short, if you ran the Colossi versus Hydras fight again, the Colossi might win! You just got unlucky this time :)
Laser giraffes are glass cannons, they need the frontline to protect them otherwise they'd be broken af
20 high templar would beat 20 full energy ghost, if they used feedback instead of storm.
@obliviouslich1722
2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, one EMP and all the templars are goners.
what is the number below the mineral and gas cost?
What is the value with blue/red icon stands for?
Your vids are my guilty pleasure
Hey man Idk how you do it but it's very cool.
what is this red/blue thing under gas and minerals
This is the real shining point of SC 2 .every fight that is on this channel depends on ur micro and thats why i love it soo much ..nice videos
@Skullhawk13
2 жыл бұрын
It’s ai
@robbarber7253
Жыл бұрын
True. Some units more than other though definitely Marines and hydras for example but Thors are probably the most A moveable unit in the entire game
What is that third resource? There is mineral and gas, but what that third? Time?
Can you enable things like stutterstepping? I mean like, marines are only good when they stutterstep (and use STIM) and every average qnd above player uses that, so it would be fun to see the reasult of that. Besides, even stalkers could use blink, so...
@shaunvann235
2 жыл бұрын
I know he says in the description that the units use their abilities as directed by a basic ai. It is possible to micro them, but I think he'd have to get someone to help him out so they could each micro one army.
Could you run these simulations multiple times and get different results?
That last fight was intense icl. Thought the colossi would’ve clutched it
Suggestion:rather than unit vs unit,maybe you could try army composition vs army composition,in order to make a more accurate battle of whats in the ladder
Imagine if they were karax colossi. Hydras would’ve had no chance
@Skullhawk13
2 жыл бұрын
But Kerrigan’s Hydralisks would have frenzy and more health, fair is fair
1. If the marines had actually been micro'd so that not 75% of them were stuck behind the front line that might've been a different fight, but here we are. 2. Oh, so when it's Stalkers micro is ok. I see how it is. 3. I don't see a problem with this one, HT's big damage is over time while ghosts do their damage up front and cost more. 4. While it's closer than before, if 75% of the hydras hadn't been crabbucketed by the ones up front that would've been a slaughter of colossi instead of whatever that was.
My biggest take-away from these videos is: micro makes all the difference. The next person saying a pro just a-moved for the win should watch these.
I'm a little confused about matching Ghosts up against HT's. Like..... Ghosts are literally their hard-counter. A couple EMP's and the HT's no longer have energy for any abilities AND they just lost their shields.
Nice.
This is Sparta!!!!!!!!
the ghost vs templar, should be a landslide win for ghost cuz the emp radius is higher
What was Arnold doing here?
If marines stim and stutter step the thors dont stand a chance
God damn it, hit 3/4 almost got the 4/4 bet on colsi and missed it.
If microed the collosi would have eaten those hydras for breakfast.
@Tya.
2 жыл бұрын
The colossi actually won every round during testing too. Performance anxiety it seems...
3/4 I though colossus could kill all hydra. I was wrong but it was close fot a such amount.
Gotta say, I didn't expect the banelings to lose.
@ChaseMoskal
2 жыл бұрын
banelings are trash against armored units. it's a good idea to use stalkers, mauraders, or roaches, like a shield to protect the softer parts of your army against incoming banelings. they can soak up the banelings like it's nothing.
@Flawskiii
2 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseMoskal That + the perfect blink micro made them even worse than usual.
@hamsterfromabove8905
2 жыл бұрын
Stalkers always over-perform in these simulations. Turns out when you given blink stalkers perfect micro they punch above their weight.
@conelord1984
2 жыл бұрын
@@hamsterfromabove8905 Your point about the perfect micro to save units during the engagement is true, but the stalkers realistically would most likely blink out of range, or spread, or kite and snipe the banelings. They wouldn't be all clustered together either to begin with. It is unrealistic for them to just stay there in a big cluster and take all of the banelings splash damage.
@chappyman82
2 жыл бұрын
in reality super easy micro from zerg would be to just move command and the fight would be much better. If they have backup dps while the banes tank like im talking about from something else they'd be even better. Banelings do genuinely counter stalkers
nice 👍
Do Supreme Commander versus videos this way, please
Those marines would have shredded the thors if they had been stimmed and stutter-stepped forward. 5-10 times the DPS easily, instead only the front row was allowed to shoot...
Marines would've melted through those Thors like butter if they were stutter stepped into the fight rather than waiting in line to die
Spectre vs Immortal Diamondbacks vs Ultralisk
@legasius9358
2 жыл бұрын
Diamondbacks vs ultras without any micro sounds frankly painful :D
На парах отлично смотрится
Now do 100 siege tanks vs 10,000 zerglings. Or 100 siege tanks vs 1 flying unit
another one of those moments where the zerg might have won over a protoss showdown; but the protoss win the "breaking the war bank" on the zerg.
The micro of the collosus was not very good , maybe they could have won with better micro
in watching all these videos the biggest take away ive learned, almost always bet on the thors
that stalker with 1kill was he the only one who got frag?
@Skullhawk13
2 жыл бұрын
The only survivor who did.
*Have Stims, doesn't use Stims.
The Hydras did not have range upgrade...
1 collosus vs 1000 marines
but why are siege tanks and roaches so op?
@Gnefitisis
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think you noticed, but hydras haven't lost yet.
@sondalo511
2 жыл бұрын
@@Gnefitisis to be fair they had like 4 times the minerals and 3 times the gas so it would be quite ridiculous if the colossus managed to beat them
@OzixiThrill
2 жыл бұрын
@@sondalo511 Honestly, had the colossi actually shifted their numbers a bit better, they actually would have won. There were 3-4 volley wasted on single hydras near the top while the bottom wa still getting chewed up.
What's ur processor and ram memory? That's beefy pc
oh wow thought no way the hydras would win. i remember a 3v3 i played once, we figured out our opponents were going mass hydra so i as the resident protoss main went mass colossus. needless to say we won easily.
the thor vs marines fight seems kinda unfair the marines were just blocking themselves like crazy only like 1/5 tops were shooting.
Damn, why are hydras so weak?
MVP 1 kill. Lmao.
Well, given the resource costs, and how few remained, I would say 50 colossus definitely won. I mean, 15k mins and 10k gas vs 60k mins and 30k gas, and the hydras walked out with just 15 remaining of 600? That's not much of a win.
Does psychic storm just suck? 😂
Keep your shirt on, sparky.
colossi’s need a buff
Rines would beat everything with micro lol
I called every match wrong 🤧
@robbarber7253
Жыл бұрын
Funny because with proper micro pretty much every match would've gone the other way
lol ghost v high templar, if the ghosts had emp'd fast enough the ht dont even get a storm off
MVP 1 kill. 🤣
colossi would have won if they started from a 2 row deep line formation
as zerg main i must say.. its f** disgusting :D
1/4 а я сегодня в ударе
well... if you had moved the marines into the middle of the thors, they could all shot at the same time, and probably kill all the thors otherwise half of the marines are running from side to side basically idle so this analysis isn't very "educational"
Like... is ghosts against HT a remotely fair one? Ghosts have a beefy health pool, strong, impossible to dodge skills, and a powerful air and ground targeting attack. HT have water balloons.
@mmazvis
2 жыл бұрын
I am wondering if it would have been a different outcome if HT opened with Feedback instead of Storm.
@daikatarokamegawa542
2 жыл бұрын
@@mmazvis Probably ghosts would've been left with like 3% less collective HP at most. Feedback was nerfed to the ground a bit after Blizzard decided "Hey, Recall is too wide an area, we want it to be situational so we're reducing the area but shortening the cooldown", but before Blizzard decided "Hey Protoss is using recall all the time, we're increasing the cooldown". Used to deal a fair bit of damage, now a full energy full HP ghost will have about 60% HP remaining against a single target feedback.
This guy probably got folded hard by Colossi.. nobodies building 600 hydras
why do only stalkers get micro'd? lol...
Protoss op
Next battle: Can 100 Broodlords beat 75 Banshees??
51 can)
nah
buff the colossi please.
pusagi.
巨象這個版本算弱的
Marines vs thors is dumb. I want stim and step micro. Why stalkers blink out vs banes and marines dont stim move closer. REMATCH
Colossi can beat hydras. Player didnt good command them.
Last one is basically Russia invading Ukraine.
Colossus is trash unit