"And like the MP-40 stock, it wobbles."

@TitanV

4 жыл бұрын

And thus, he looked upon it, and touched it. And behold, it wobbled indeed.

@onyx9943

2 жыл бұрын

It's a feature, not a bug...

Star firearms: it looks german but we swear it isn’t

@joemama.556

4 жыл бұрын

hey we saw the oportunity an tried to take it lol

@zaikolebolsh5724

4 жыл бұрын

@Jonas the good old Spanish "CAMBIASO" (switcheroo)

@joaquinandreu8530

4 жыл бұрын

@@abyssus9304 Spanish cannons and swords were the best up until the XIX century, not exploding like many German, British and French guns.

@manuelmendocorral958

4 жыл бұрын

@@zaikolebolsh5724 😂😂😂😂 The spanish "CAMBIAZO"!!!😂😂😂😂 AHHH!!! What old memories of "Mortadelo & Filemón", and their "CAMBIAZOS" (Changes).

@thesturm8686

4 жыл бұрын

@@abyssus9304 so it looks like a german made, but won't malfunction if handled by anyone without a doctorate in engineering?

Hi Ian, I am from Spain. The "ET" letters with the numbers mean "ejercito de tierra", meaning this particular unit belongs to the Spanish army, specialised in ground operations. Even nowadays "ET" letters appear in Spanish Army vehicle's license plates.

I believe "ET" stands for "Ejército de Tierra" "Land army".

@Tankliker

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately for you the internet will see it the other way.

@alvarohernani6645

4 жыл бұрын

@@Tankliker he is wright. ET= Ejército de Tierra (the army) as a Spanish i garante that it's true

@Tankliker

4 жыл бұрын

@@jorgeguanche5327 yes ET the movie. I mean outside of Spain and mexico not many speak Spanish and also know military shortages XD

@amko899999

4 жыл бұрын

ET Phone home.

@Cervando

4 жыл бұрын

@@Tankliker You do know Spanish is the second most spoken native language in the world after Chinese?

*Star:* “Hey can we copy your homework?” *Germans:* “Yeah, but change some answers so it’s not obvious.” *Star:* Z45 *Germans:* “I don’t know you.”

@joanmora4410

4 жыл бұрын

its like this, the german designers comes to spain and work for Franco, after this, they do the CETME

@panzermacher

4 жыл бұрын

@@joanmora4410 joan, German engineers didn't make their way over to Spain until AFTER the war, this was designed during the war, it's pretty clear the STAR design team used a couple of MP 38s probably left by the Kondor Legion during the Spanish Civil War as a blueprint.

@lars9925

4 жыл бұрын

​@@panzermacher Considering the alliance between Nazi Germany and Fascist Spain, it is quite likely that Spain did not make a copy in secret, but got permission and maybe even help from Germany.

@AragonDubs

4 жыл бұрын

@@joanmora4410 and the rockets for the apollo, atomic bombs, cargo ship motors, etc.

@raboalvarez9853

4 жыл бұрын

Dolophyne = lilly

The trigger might not have been a great idea in practice, but you've got to admit the idea is uber clever.

@Hawk1966

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah but in the heat of the moment I can see someone getting seriously frustrated (and dead) when he keeps yanking single rounds and expecting full auto.

@edi9892

4 жыл бұрын

It looks like a gun that can be fired with thick gloves, which is a bit surprising for Spain.

@thesturm8686

4 жыл бұрын

@@edi9892 i don't think you could fit two fingers with thick gloves

@Trikipum

4 жыл бұрын

@@edi9892 Saying this clearly shows you have no fucking idea about spain.. Just for your information, spain isnt a tropical country... It is fucking cold in winter and you gonna need gloves if you are at -10 C... so.. how can be that surprising?.. or you are just some american who believes spain is in south america?...

@ArmyGreensTanBoots

4 жыл бұрын

@@Trikipum so..... You're saying that Spain doesn't have mangos or monkeys...? 🤔

Germany: So when can we get these? Spain *staring at landing ships on the beach*: One sec I gotta get something out of my car. Brb i promise

@mrkeogh

4 жыл бұрын

German Engineers: "Oh, little Spanischer, zat ist a gut effort...vait ein minuten, WASS DER FUCH HAFF YOU DONE TO MEIN TRIGGER!"

@bluemobster0023

4 жыл бұрын

@Avantgardist it's a meme

@anthonymartin6352

4 жыл бұрын

@Avantgardist it's a joke , just like you.

@Len1977gt

3 жыл бұрын

"Laughs in French"

Looks like an MP40 with a Suomi KP/-31 barrel shroud.

@MrDmitriRavenoff

4 жыл бұрын

Sexy, right?

@Taistelukalkkuna

4 жыл бұрын

They sent Suomi-smg´s to Waffen-SS volunteers, don´t recall how many. They had some hot....erm...action. The Blue Division obviously adopted the offspring, while Finns and Germans were silent out of embarrasment.

@no-nonseplayer6612

4 жыл бұрын

@@Taistelukalkkuna muutama sata oli se Wiking divisioonalla

@ArcturusOTE

4 жыл бұрын

@@no-nonseplayer6612 Can I ask what that means?

@no-nonseplayer6612

4 жыл бұрын

@@ArcturusOTE it means that wef hundred finnish Suomi smgs were used ss Wiking division

“I left my mp40 in the Spanish kid’s room!” “Eh, I’ll pick it up tomorrow, what’s the worst that can happen?”

@crispr1782

4 жыл бұрын

@manuel heredia this is what we call a ZASCA!

@MotivationMondays6

3 жыл бұрын

Mi penè ès mucho grandè

1:40 When you realize that STAR was trying to sell submachineguns to WW2 Germany, and the logo includes a Star of David.

@mixererunio1757

4 жыл бұрын

Cocky sons of a gun

@kermitderfrosch1704

4 жыл бұрын

Germany: 👀

@manuelmendocorral958

4 жыл бұрын

The Franco's Spain never hate jews. The Spain if 1940-1945 saves 15.000 jews with her embassies in France and Poland. More of these jews live actually in Spain, but the Spanish Socialists and Communists deliberately hide it to insult him, since his current political supporters are Hitler's former friends. (PNV)

@johnny-smith

4 жыл бұрын

erick breslin frost This is simply not true. Franquist Spain had a huge problem with Judaism and, weirdly enough, masonry. Maybe not to the extent of Germany but definitely serious enough.

@johnded3874

4 жыл бұрын

@Eric Ferguson How does not liking Judaism make someone a nazi sympathizer? That's like saying disliking beef makes you a vegetarian.

ET goes for 'Ejército de Tierra'

@morm608

4 жыл бұрын

Must be the Army "Ejercito de Tierra" serial number of the weapon, not the production number.

@paulodeblas8354

4 жыл бұрын

@@morm608 yes, that's correct, the last two numbers are 63 that corresponds to the year the weapon was given to the army

@Equiluxe1

4 жыл бұрын

I was hoping that ET stood for extraterrestrial. I can just see ET running around Hollywood waving one of those blasting all the nasty government agents out of his way.

@paulodeblas8354

4 жыл бұрын

@@Equiluxe1 that should be AWESOME

@manuelmendocorral958

4 жыл бұрын

Are you from a spanish speaking country?

These guns were often used as standins for Mp40s in 60-70s war movies! ( Cause many of them were filmed in Spain.)

@houndoftindalos9580

4 жыл бұрын

Rat Patrol

@AshleyPomeroy

4 жыл бұрын

One major exception was Kelly's Heroes, which was shot in Yugoslavia and had masses, absolutely masses of MP-40s.

@Condottiere1978

4 жыл бұрын

Like the Horrible "A bullet for Rommel" with Jack Palance

Thanks Ian. Reminds me of the type of gun Hergé sometimes drew in some Tintin cartoon books which would make you question as a child if he drew an MP40 incorrectly or had made up a gun or if it was indeed an obscure gun he had drawn correctly. :) It seems a good design. Thanks for seeking it out and the excellent presentation as usual.

@JohnnyPollas

4 жыл бұрын

I love this comment

@plasmagunwh40k91

4 жыл бұрын

But Herge was French... Why drawing a STAR?

@Olde1Fortran

4 жыл бұрын

@@plasmagunwh40k91 Belgian

@plasmagunwh40k91

4 жыл бұрын

@@Olde1Fortran thanks for the correction. But that makes me wonder more..

@techpriest5452

4 жыл бұрын

@@plasmagunwh40k91 maybe he just liked it?

Germany "we've made a simple machine gun, nothing can be done to overcomplicate it" Spain "hold my beer..."

So finally! After 50 years I found out what it was that I saw that policeman with. I saw this gun at Police Headquarters in Montevideo, Uruguay, in 1970, and it really caught my attention as the armed forces had all US WWII surplus. Besides it looked like a MP 38/40 but the barrel shroud didn't match. For many years I thought it could have been a gun made in Argentina. Now I know. I remember seeing Astras in service with the Police also, besides the .38 Special revolvers. Thank you.

I used several of those while in the Air Force, just for fun. They were obsolete and with the fame of being unsafe. The service SMG at my time was the Z62. The mark ET391663 means EJÉRCITO DE TIERRA (Army) and serial number for that armed force.

@thesturm8686

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting, how could they be unsafe? Deterioration during service perhaps?

@godzillaboe8897

4 жыл бұрын

Hauptmann Sturm deterioration, poor maintenance, who knows...also when the army have a new gun they trend to call the previous one “unsafe” or “obsolete” while they still be usable like the CETME C or the Z63. Now they’re just trying to bullshit on the G36 for purchasing the 416 while the Spanish version of the G36 doesn’t have the same problem of the German version

The recoil spring reminds me of the spring for a toilet paper holder😂

@CeltKnight

4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking of a collapsible baton. But now I'll see a toilet paper holder. LOL

@rikantony6571

4 жыл бұрын

lifes too short to be inspecting toilet roll holders...

@rikantony6571

4 жыл бұрын

@@CeltKnight this is going into the dark hole of garand thumbs channel....

I can not stress how much I love your channel content because it's not only informative, but historical. My college son who was an obsessive Demolition Ranch, Hickock45 watcher is hooked because he is a history buff. Fyi...it would be awesome of you could give him a shout out (Nico) and say "Go Greyhounds" in one of your videos? He's 19, refused to walkout his senior year against firearms, is playing football in division 2 college, while getting his pre veterinarian classes in. Keep up the great content sir and congrats on a job well done.

I remember these from "The Rat Patrol" when they filmed in Spain.

I think that is one of the more beautiful sub guns from ww1 up to the 90’s. There is ones that are super nice but this is a mix of the super machined and the super simple. It’s right in between and a perfect example of just how much work goes into building a sub gun. Just beautiful

Just when I thought the MP40 couldn't get any more art deco sci-fi...........

@scimatarpictures

3 жыл бұрын

That’s such a good way of describing the MP40

I remember seeing these in early episodes of "The Rat Patrol".They had problems getting Thompsons at first.

I seem to recall these were used in the film Tobruk which makes sense as it was filmed in Spain

@USSEnterpriseA1701

4 жыл бұрын

Also used for both sides in the early days of the Rat Patrol.

@General.Longstreet

4 жыл бұрын

@@USSEnterpriseA1701 Is that a tv show?

@USSEnterpriseA1701

4 жыл бұрын

@@General.Longstreet Yep. I blame my dad for introducing me to most of the shows from his childhood. I'm partial to Combat! and Hogan's Heroes myself, but the Rat Patrol wasn't too bad.

@Hawk1966

4 жыл бұрын

I loved that show!

@demonprinces17

4 жыл бұрын

@@General.Longstreet think on KZread

Eibar based "Star" made some successful designs, particularly the "Modelo B" and "Super B", both copies of the 1911 chambered in 9mm Parabellum of "Pulp Fiction" fame(It was Jules Winfield sidearm) it was ordered by Germany for the Reichspolizei(IIRC) to use. I learned to shoot with one of those. It was old, the barrel rifling was almost gone but all in all was reliable and I wasn't going to shoot far anyway. As for the Z45, it was still in service with the Spanish Legion at the time my great uncle was XO of the Sexta Bandera(Sixth Company) during the Saharaui uprising in 1957. Side note: I would take 9x23mm over 9 Parabellum everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.

I know Ian films a bunch of videos on each trip he makes and doesn't release them in the same order he films them, but the order he DOES release them in makes it look like he's racking up some SERIOUS airline miles...

They served in a couple of European War movies shot on location in Spain in the mid 1960´s when they had not enough MP40´s or Italian Berettas, most famous one "Play Dirty" wirth Michael Caine, but also a couple of really bad ones...

In 2009 my grandfather saw me playing Call of Duty World at War in the living room, I was playing with the MP40 and he saw me and told me that he had that weapon when he was a Guardia Civil (spanish military police), I thought he was getting confused, that What he said didn't make sense and then many years later I searched for it on the internet out of curiosity and I found this weapon. He died a few years ago but since then it makes me happy to see that weapon, whether it's the German one or the Spanish version, I know It sounds strange but I miss him and I regret not having talked to him while I could.

Interestingly, these were used by the Allied soldiers in the 60s TV series 'The Rat Patrol". From Wikipedia: "The submachine guns used by the squad were unusual. Because the first season had been filmed in Spain, the producers obtained several fixed wood-stock versions of the Spanish Star Z-45 (9x23mm Largo) submachine gun[6] from the Spanish Army, in an apparent attempt to imitate the look of the WWII .45 Thompson submachine gun. This was changed in later first-season episodes when Thompsons were finally made available.

When the weird Spanish kid starts hanging out with the weird German kid

Hello, the words "ET", and followed by a serial number printed over the magazine, stands for: Ejercito de Tierra, which means Land Military. My father was in the Spanish military in 1965 in Africa (Morroco), and used to carry one of Star Z45. Thanks for the channel. Great videos.

The ET number stands for Ejercito de Tierra (Spanish Army). IT's the spanish Army inventory serial number

The sixties action show "Rat Patrol" was filmed in Spain (for the first season) and used Z45 full stocked guns as props replacing unavailable Thompsons.

@CommandLineCowboy

4 жыл бұрын

"Battle of the Last Panzer" used them, I was wondering what what the SMGs in the movie where, thanks Ian. (worst WWII movie ever)

I didn't note the Thompson type firing pin when this video was released. Another gun to hall of guns like Thompson, PPD40, Orita, MP35, Welgun, Z62, Z70 and Beretta 1938.

So there’s no mechanism for the charging handle safety nub to stay open when it fires? It just assumes that it won’t close fast enough

@BrukusGE

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe to button is heavy enough to open it while moving back or something like that.

@Vi3trice

4 жыл бұрын

Inertia would have it slam forward.

@alxhatz8548

4 жыл бұрын

@@Vi3trice Unless you can lock it in the open possition when you are about to fire.

@avenstad8433

4 жыл бұрын

I was wondering that myself

@TitanV

4 жыл бұрын

It doesn’t “assume”, it’s where some things called physics and engineering come into play. ;) inertia as someone pointed out.

This weapon was used in several WW2 movies that was filmed in Spain, and was used in The Rat Patrol season 1,but had a wooden shoulder stock.

@jeffturnbull9661

8 ай бұрын

Thought so, thank you

Saw this in the Spanish film Valley of the Dead. I think in Spanish it is called Malzinados. It's on Netflix. First I thought it was an FNAB 43, and then an MP40 mocked up as an FNAB 43. But then I noticed it had the charging handle on the right side. The MP40's charging handle is on the left side. I finally figured out it was a Spanish Star Z45, which makes sense as it's a Spanish movie. Kind of a cheesy zombie flick, but the guns make it worth a watch. Period correct guns used in the European theatre by Spain and various resistance groups. Astra 400s, Star Model Bs, No4 MK1 Lee Enfield, Thompson SMG, Webley Revolver, 32ACP Ruby, etc. I think there was even a Spanish clone S&W M&P 38. Or it was just a plain S&W M&P.

This is a pretty great weapon, definitely has a place in my heart in my firearms heaven from now on

One of the best looking submachine guns I’ve ever seen.

ET: Stand for "Ejército de Tierra" (army). And the number may be an inventory marking

@tiagoabiramia

4 жыл бұрын

@@sinisterthoughts2896 Maybe it was exported to another Spanish speaking country.

@ScottKenny1978

4 жыл бұрын

@@tiagoabiramia that is what I thinking. Probably came out of South America somewhere.

@andresdelgadoperez966

3 жыл бұрын

@@ScottKenny1978 no, spanish guns from the army have ET in front of te serial number, this gun was used by the army.

Thanks Ian!,i emailed you asking for a review on this one a year ago or so,I see you got your hands on one,👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Hi Ian, that ET , stands for “Ejercito de Tierra” , which is the Spanish Army . Cool video about our very first “Zeta” . My father used that one till the beginnings of the 80’s at the “Ejercito de Tierra”; then they replaced those with the “new” Z-70B. Thumbs up for the video!! 👍🏻

NEMESIS : " STARS "

@sebastianmontoya5158

4 жыл бұрын

**Sweats in Jill** Not again...

That thing is in FANTASTIC condition.

Cool gun Ian thanks for showing it off

You again bring us the coolest stuff!

That would be fun to try shooting one of these in .45! Very interesting firearm. Thanks for the video and happy double 20 New Year to ya!

*sees Star or Astra* "ah dis gonna be good" Can you do the Astra Constable if you find it?

My dad used one like that during his military service....is great to see it here

4:06 turn on caption

@ostkaaka

4 жыл бұрын

Nice catch. Hahaha!

@TheDougwoods

4 жыл бұрын

Well worth turning captions on 🤣😂

@easongoldman1011

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, take the like and leave

The 1960's TV show "The Rat Patrol" used these (with an added wooden stock) during the first season.

“Agh! Its really tight agh!”

@couchbear6108

4 жыл бұрын

That's what she said 😂😂😂

@januskristensen4930

4 жыл бұрын

@@couchbear6108 shut

What a classy grease gun!

I'm a huge fan of the mp40 and this is the first "Interpretation" of it that I really, really like aesthetically. Damn.

The number of the base of the magazine of the weapon is to know to which unit or soldier the weapon is assigned. the letters ET corresponds to the acronym (Ejército de Tierra) "Army of Land". In Spain we have what we call here the three armies "land" "sea" and "air"

*The Rat Patrol theme plays faintly in background*

I like the wood grips and side plates.

Seems more complex than improved.

@JackGordone

4 жыл бұрын

Safer

Wow ! Very nice sub machine gun !

You see them a lot on T.V. in the show Rat Patrol. It was filmed in Spain for some time.

Thank you , Ian .

Nice! Thanks Ian. Rich.

I’ve always wondered if this style of firing pin(struck from the front) could be used to solve the issue of crappy triggers and to an extent weight distribution in bullpups. It would potentially allow for a trigger group located with with the pistol grip and remove the need for the transfer bars which tend to cause the crappiness. The only thing my not an engineer mind can’t work out is how to reset a hammer that swings backwards.

Me: sees title also me: impossible

I've become a fan of Star and started collecting them. I wanted an MP5 until I found out from Ian they made some nice subguns! Now they are on my "when I win the lottery" list.

A lot of these guns ended in the movie studios of Spain, France and Italy converted in mp40s. Even in the 90's there were many still in use in some Guardia Civil installations.

Looks like a gun from Valkyria Chronicles.

All things considered its a beautiful looking gun

It looks like the result of a drunken one-night stand between an MP-40 and a PPSh, with a carpenter for a midwife.

Hola Ian.... The marks in the magazine well means ET (Ejercito de tierra)... un saludo....Love your videos.

E T Ejército de Tierra both infantry and cavalry-armoured Thanks for make this I'm from Valladolid Spain

Interesting video. I believe the ET in the serial number stands for 'Ejercito de Terra', the Spanish Army. On a different note, I did not know that the Portuguese armed forces used this weapon. Could you, Ian, please indicate a reference? Thanks in advance.

@jorgec.a3123

4 жыл бұрын

Ejército de Tierra* ;)

Very interesting gun and clip.

Hi Ian! and regards from sunny Spain! the other serial number is indeed and inventory number. ET stands for 'ejercito de tierra' , land military forces, therefore, army.

That is one funky trigger system. The compensator screams Thompson though.

Forgotten Weapons: makes a video. Dice: That would make some good playable content.

well about the serial number on the other side 39163. im just guessing but 63 is the year of production, as the stamp with the 1 on the other side indicates. 39 could be the week of the year, witch would be right at the end of august. the 1 is maybe correlated with the one on the stamp I mentioned before.

So unique. Pretty cool.

2:17 ET means Ejército de Tierra. It is an inventary notation used in many things, vehicles, guns...

Hi Ian, ET means Ejército de Tierra (Army), other markings in spanish guns are EA Ejército de Aire (Air Force), FN Fueza Naval (Navy) y GC Guarcia Civil (Civil Guard). You can see it in for example, CETME L rifles. Best regards.

I was pretty impressed until I saw the progressive trigger 🙄

@joaquinandreu8530

4 жыл бұрын

Well, it was discontinued in subsequent iterations of the Zeta, so you were not the only one.

@jalpat2272

4 жыл бұрын

more like double push trigger to me ￣へ￣

Remember season one of The Rat Patrol? The main characters used these as stand ins for Thompson sub machine guns.

The serial number on the other side of the magazine weld must be related to army storage or something related with the army as ET stands for Ejército de Tierra usually which means Army

Looks so cool!

The only drawback for me is the two finger's trigger to fire Full Auto. I have always been interested in the Z45 . I was reading that some of these weapons had metal lowers instead of the wooden one's on this one but I have never seen one. Thanks for the video Ian.

@forgotten weapons ET= Ejercito de Tierra or army. You are right, it's an inventory number.

I see a lot of similarities with the Swedish K, the heat protection shroud over the pipe, the protection for the front sight (but it's not adjustable as on the Swedish K), the adjustable distance rear sight and the hook up of the bolt.

ET here in spain normally refers to: ''Ejercito de Tierra'' who means army, you can show some of these guns for sale in internet without these marks. hope that i help you with these, but im not 100% secure.

The ET markings mean 'Ejército de Tierra' (Land Army, or just the Army); i know that those were in use by the Guardia Civíl until mid 70s on rural areas and unpopulated areas, but i only knew those in 9mm Largo, also, both the 'Policía Nacional' (National Police or cops) and the 'Guardia Civíl' get their military weapons from the Army, the Army (Ejército de Tierra) buy the weapons and then they transfer 'em to the 'Guardia Civíl' or National Police (Policía Nacional, the CNP [Cuerpo Nacional de Policía] National Police Corp). In the same way that the Armada buy the weapons for themselves and for the Royal spanish Marine Infantry, the markings on those are 'FN' (Fuerza Naval, 'Naval Force' meaning Armada), the Armada make the deal and then they distribute the weapons between the sailors/Armada and the Marines, having the Royal spanish Marine Infantry a completely different chain of command and internal structure from the Armada; we work with the popeyes but we're not popeyes. Something similiar happens with the Air Force (Fuerza Aerea), the markings on their weapons are FA meaning 'Fuerza Aerea' or Air Force.

Usually ET means "Ejército de Tierra", that is, Army. But I don´t remenber the marks on the guns. During my millitary service the submachine standard model was the Star Z-70B. In the same way the assault rifle was the Cetme model C (7.62X51 NATO and no more than 2 rounds in full auto if you wish something around the point of impactt). Congratulations and thak you for the channel.

The second serial number is an Army inventory number, E.T stands for Ejército de Tierra (Land Army). Probably it has been said a million times in the comments but I'm just going to write it.

I suspect some of those were used in season 1 of Rat Patrol during the filming in Spain.

first season "RAT PATROL" was filmed in Spain and these also saw service during this run of the show.

Curious, what keeps that locking latch from locking bolt forward during firing? it would seem like it would lock into place when the bolt slams forward?

The ET39... Number is an inventory code of the spanish army (ET stands for Ejercito de Tierra)

@2:10 I'm not sure but looks like a marking from own's Spanish Army "Ejercito de Tierra" (E.T.), even nowadays their vehicles uses that same marking on their plates.

Honestly, I think it looks fantastic

That trigger looks odd. Can you get it back fast enough to skip straight to full auto, or will the reset always trigger and catch the bolt for a moment giving you a stutter start?

Buen arma, es como disparar una escopeta de aire comprimido, durante 2 años l estuve utilizando en la infantería española👍

It is indeed a very safe gun, but with so much safety mechanisms I would be afraid the gun won't fire when I *really freaking need it to fire* just cause I forgot to press some plunger or something

@WavePhone-ft2mc

4 жыл бұрын

Xxx

A good weapon, my uncle used it and commented that it was reliable and manufactured with quality.