Star Wars is so goddamn goofy for this

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We'll talk about Star Wars' weird past of re-casting perfectly good characters because of minor differences. That and more on today's video.
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  • @americantitan2190
    @americantitan2190Ай бұрын

    Just a daily reminder to never delete that outro- it is the best

  • @Pintobeans678

    @Pintobeans678

    Ай бұрын

    Yep yep yep

  • @yohan4027

    @yohan4027

    Ай бұрын

    Salute o7

  • @chimaerayt3077

    @chimaerayt3077

    Ай бұрын

    Yessss

  • @kardona_3

    @kardona_3

    Ай бұрын

    It calms me down after a long day

  • @WeaponizedAutism7

    @WeaponizedAutism7

    Ай бұрын

    KZread copyright: I will do what I must Eck: you will try

  • @francisvigoreaux3965
    @francisvigoreaux3965Ай бұрын

    Diversity requirements, the council has. Tax breaks the Jedi Order must get. Fucking expensive, Coruscant rent is.

  • @petersparker1278

    @petersparker1278

    Ай бұрын

    underrated lol

  • @dasshift6925

    @dasshift6925

    Ай бұрын

    Yoda gotta fund his life style somehow

  • @felipeaugusto2600

    @felipeaugusto2600

    Ай бұрын

    That's because he spends all the councils money on drugs.

  • @peterpolus5272

    @peterpolus5272

    Ай бұрын

    😂

  • @jojogh10

    @jojogh10

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@felipeaugusto2600 Glory to Arstotzka.

  • @GloriousLastStand
    @GloriousLastStandАй бұрын

    This is getting out of hand. Now there are two of them!

  • @davidbastardo4154

    @davidbastardo4154

    Ай бұрын

    Underrated.

  • @skywalkersbutido6375

    @skywalkersbutido6375

    Ай бұрын

    Always two there are.

  • @thedonutmen3471

    @thedonutmen3471

    Ай бұрын

    Perfect. Well played

  • @fighterwolfneon
    @fighterwolfneonАй бұрын

    I knew what this was gonna be the moment I saw the thumbnail and title. I still find it fascinating that we got a whole new character plus a video game explaining Adi's absence in AOT, just because of a recast, despite Adi essentially being a nameless background character in the movies. Guess even George goes in as deep as some fans to.

  • @HyperJohnua

    @HyperJohnua

    Ай бұрын

    that game made adi my favorite jedi side character.

  • @mattmmilli8287

    @mattmmilli8287

    Ай бұрын

    Bad acting and plot is bad

  • @jaernihiltheus7817

    @jaernihiltheus7817

    Ай бұрын

    @@mattmmilli8287 No one cares

  • @Nikp117
    @Nikp117Ай бұрын

    2:44 Yaddle wouldn’t have accidentally called him the wrong name, because she would have been dead before he relinquished his seat on the council. 🤓

  • @justinhammer3196

    @justinhammer3196

    Ай бұрын

    I, for one, am glad Yaddle was dead by then. Take that as you will.

  • @muse_themagic
    @muse_themagicАй бұрын

    6:33 “Who gets just annihilated in episode 2 by Jango Fett, which was nice because it opened up a space on the council for Obi-Wan” 💀

  • @Vanilla-Frogs

    @Vanilla-Frogs

    Ай бұрын

    Actually kit fisto takes his place, then Depa billaba is badly wounded by general grievous at the beginning of the clone wars, and that’s how Obi wan got on. He replaced her.

  • @wilhufftarkin8543

    @wilhufftarkin8543

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@Vanilla-FrogsIn the original Clone Wars timeline before TCW, Depa Billaba falls to the dark side and gets imprisoned. I think her ultimate fate was never revealed, but it would make sense if she became an inquisitor

  • @Vanilla-Frogs

    @Vanilla-Frogs

    Ай бұрын

    @@wilhufftarkin8543 no, that’s in legends. She dies during order 66 in cannon.

  • @wilhufftarkin8543

    @wilhufftarkin8543

    Ай бұрын

    @@Vanilla-Frogs That's what I said

  • @Vanilla-Frogs

    @Vanilla-Frogs

    Ай бұрын

    @@wilhufftarkin8543 no, you said we didn’t know how she died. We do

  • @Necromancer4267
    @Necromancer4267Ай бұрын

    So is it also NOT Mace Windu who meets up with Palpatine and Anakin on Naboo as they're arriving for Qui Gon's funeral?

  • @mattelder1971

    @mattelder1971

    Ай бұрын

    Yep, just what I was about to point out. There's also in that scene, if I remember right, a replacement actor for one of the Naboo dignitaries.

  • @EckhartsLadder

    @EckhartsLadder

    Ай бұрын

    I don't think that one was ever explained.

  • @Matamanplay

    @Matamanplay

    Ай бұрын

    That was Face Dooro, Windu's father's uncle's neighbour's roommate.

  • @blackc1479

    @blackc1479

    Ай бұрын

    ​@Matamanplay so what does that make them?

  • @davidbastardo4154

    @davidbastardo4154

    Ай бұрын

    That was Mac Intosh, Windu's nemesis from Haarun Kaal.

  • @Outstralian
    @OutstralianАй бұрын

    My headcanon is that maybe Eeth Koth just went on vacation and got a nice tan.

  • @calebwagner5381

    @calebwagner5381

    25 күн бұрын

    In one of Disney’s new(ish) Vader series, they actually show he joined some kind of force priests on a backwater planet and started a family after he left the order. And a couple years into the rein of the empire, Vader and a handful of inquisitors find him and kill him and his wife, and the inquisitors steal his force sensitive kid to be trained by them. I’ll have to find the exact issue number but it’s a pretty cool end to his story.

  • @daggerfalls101
    @daggerfalls101Ай бұрын

    I always love the dog clip in the outro, so goofy in a loveable way.

  • @-CrimsoN-
    @-CrimsoN-Ай бұрын

    That Kit Fisto bit lmao Im dead "the man looks like a freak" lmao

  • @M32Mirach

    @M32Mirach

    Ай бұрын

    He said "he's IN one!" Whats that mean lol

  • @leftyfourguns
    @leftyfourgunsАй бұрын

    I think a lot of us millennials are very familiar with the Episode 1 council because they were in all the 90s video games we played over and over again and all over all the mountains of merchandise. What a wild time to be a kid!

  • @crispy_338

    @crispy_338

    Ай бұрын

    Jedi Power Battles 👍🏻

  • @-CrimsoN-

    @-CrimsoN-

    Ай бұрын

    I miss that shit so much. Early prequels content was a wild time and so many people forget or just don't know about it. Back when Mace Windu had a blue lightsaber! Back when Plo Koon could cast force lightening (but it was yellow and called "Force Judgement). Back when red lightsabers weren't automatically associated with sith. I don't even think the concept of sith was even really developed yet. So many fan theories of what the Clone Wars would end up being too!!!

  • @ZachBobBob

    @ZachBobBob

    Ай бұрын

    Same with the Pod Racers

  • @3mpt7

    @3mpt7

    Ай бұрын

    ...Damn. All the research I did told me to skip those.

  • @slothfulcobra
    @slothfulcobraАй бұрын

    With the original Star Wars, George Lucas clearly wanted to establish some kind of vibe with character accents, despite nearly all the actors being british, so there's a lot of dubbing over people and british actors putting on fake american accents. They also supposedly dubbed over a woman because it was deemed too dark for female pilots to be dying in the Battle of Endor (presumably also why an old lady pilot was cut) Following from that, it makes more sense why Phantom Menace did so much with more exotic accents for all the aliens, which was poorly received. I think the Clone Wars cartoon had more success with throwing around accents with French Twileks and Dee Bradley Baker doing lots and lots of his New Zealander impression

  • @SkepticalJedi
    @SkepticalJediАй бұрын

    Wait so what if Palpatine and Sidious are actually different people after all and just the same species? Could we have just been confused this whole time?😱

  • @Darth_Niki4

    @Darth_Niki4

    Ай бұрын

    Their real names are Frank and Sheev Palpatine. They were definitely twins. One of them was a legitimate senator, and the other was doing some shady stuff behind the scenes. Finally, somewhere between Ep 1 and 3 one of them was killed (it *must* be Frank, because the name "Sheev" doesn't seat right with me) and the other took all the power. ⚡

  • @BierBart12

    @BierBart12

    Ай бұрын

    @@Darth_Niki4 Turns out the genuinely caring, well-meaning senator Sheev was the one who died. Frank has been living a double-life ever since his fratricide

  • @f0rth3l0v30fchr15t

    @f0rth3l0v30fchr15t

    Ай бұрын

    @@Darth_Niki4 And their nephew, Dave Palpatine who had a pituitary gland tumour which resulted in a massive overproduction of HGH who started calling himself "Snoke" after his uncle's untimely demise.

  • @durtypan

    @durtypan

    Ай бұрын

    In that vain arnt anakin and darth vader different characters? They both had different actors after all

  • @awesomefez6959

    @awesomefez6959

    Ай бұрын

    @@Darth_Niki4 Hey now don't forget Steve Palpatine, intergalactic plumber-extraordinaire.

  • @PlayersPurity
    @PlayersPurityАй бұрын

    This reminds me how Rune Haako, the advisor of Nute Gunray from TPM is suppose to be the Nemoidian with Gunray in Episode 2, but they sound completely different there and looks slightly different overall.

  • @davidbastardo4154

    @davidbastardo4154

    Ай бұрын

    That's because the production team lost Haako's mask and had to use Lott Dod's (the TF Senator). In Episode III, Haako has another mask much closer to the one he wore aboard the Saak'ak in Episode I.

  • @councilornevec8249
    @councilornevec8249Ай бұрын

    I actually kinda like that Lucas and other contributors to the lore got caught up in the little unnoticed details in the background. I like that almost every background character as a some back story.

  • @Outstralian

    @Outstralian

    Ай бұрын

    It happens more often than you think, writers usually care more about the stories and less about tiny details. The creator of Dragonball Akira Toriyama was notorious for forgetting characters he created lol

  • @furiouskaiser9914

    @furiouskaiser9914

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@Outstralian Launch and frigging Goten of all people 🤣 🤣

  • @Arcadia_warlic
    @Arcadia_warlicАй бұрын

    Honourable mention to the vaguely Chiss-looking and Gran councilmen seen in one Grievous comic and never again, whose timelines do not really line up with any known gaps, so their presence on the council is questionable.

  • @geth7112

    @geth7112

    Ай бұрын

    They were a very tired pantoran with red eye. The pantoran version of pink eye

  • @BierBart12

    @BierBart12

    Ай бұрын

    Those were just the janitor and a pizza delivery guy, caught in the moment

  • @DaringDan
    @DaringDanАй бұрын

    The funniest one to me was Sheev saying, "Bail Antilles" and then George changing his married name to Organa after the fact with zero explanation when there was a Captain Antilles and a Wedge Antilles. Needlessly confusing indeed. EDIT: LOL I typed this before you mentioned it. Hilarious.

  • @davidbastardo4154

    @davidbastardo4154

    Ай бұрын

    That was Panaka, not the Sheevie.

  • @kmaguire7161

    @kmaguire7161

    Ай бұрын

    This was because in episode 1 Lucas had cast Adrian Dunbar as Bail Organa but then changed his mind and cut him and decided to recast him with Jimmy Smits in 2 and 3. So he just switched the name to Bail Antilles. I think Lucas just likes the name Antilles because the name has been around since the beginning in different iterations of the story process.

  • @bossman4799

    @bossman4799

    Ай бұрын

    Edit: I typed this before the previous comment. Isn’t there a deleted scene with Bail Antilles. The actor is definitely not the same as Bail Organa so aren’t they two different characters too?

  • @SarastistheSerpent

    @SarastistheSerpent

    Ай бұрын

    @@bossman4799they’re absolutely different characters in legends. Bail Antilles in legends was a major rival to Finis Valorum and actually was the senator who lead the campaign to have Valorum ousted for “the Eriadu affair”, in which Darth Sidious and Darth Maul orchestrate a ridiculously convoluted plan involving a terrorist group called the Nubula Front hiring a team of mercenaries to raid a bunch of trade federation ships and steal precious metal ingots, then attempt to assassinate Valorum at a conference with the trade federation directorate on Eriadu to agree to terms on taxing the free trade zones in exchange for the federation being allowed to heavily arm its ships to protect them from pirates, only for the trade federation’s droids to malfunction and assassinate the TF directorate members once the Jedi activate the shield protecting Valorum from the Nebula Front snipers attempting to kill him. This allows Nute Gunray to be promoted to the now vacant trade federation directorate and allows him to stack it with Neimoidian sycophants. Then Orn Fre Taa discovers that the ingots stolen from the trade federation were mysteriously converted into credits and invested into companies owned by Valorum’s family members by investors who appear not to have existed, which makes it look like Valorum was illegally enriching himself by instigating thefts on trade federation ships so that they’d _have_ to campaign for militarization, and in exchange would be taxed heavily by the Republic. This scandal effectively strips Valorum of all his political power and leaves him a lame duck chancellor. Orn Fre Taa gives the data implicating Valorum to Palpatine, who in tells him to give it to Bail Antilles, knowing Antilles will snitch on Valorum to the senate investigatory committee and will pursue legal action against Valorum. Antilles’ efforts to have Valorum charged actually end up making him very unpopular in the Senate, and tanks his shot at being elected the next Chancellor, allowing Palpatine to become the new favourite.

  • @violetlight1548

    @violetlight1548

    Ай бұрын

    Pretty sure Antilles is the Smith of the GFFA

  • @arrun5125
    @arrun5125Ай бұрын

    Next you're going to tell me that all the stunt doubles are actually separate characters!

  • @JJAB91
    @JJAB91Ай бұрын

    The power of one. The power of two. The power of maannnnyyyyyy.

  • @rq4740

    @rq4740

    Ай бұрын

    “If you die in the Antilles state, Wedge Antilles will cease to exist” {row of wedge Antilles doppelgängers disappearing}

  • @andreababcock2622
    @andreababcock2622Ай бұрын

    I just remembered this: Denis Lawson was Space Jesus’s uncle! If Higgs didn’t have trouble with his, lines, there wouldn’t have been an uncle to inspire Ewan McGregor, and thus not perfect conviction in “Hello there!”

  • @Doctor_Omega
    @Doctor_OmegaАй бұрын

    There's the whole Sifo Dyas was "Sido Dyas" in the original script - Implying that Palpatine may have been a Jedi at one point. There was also some marketing material for Episode I that showed a brown-haired, clean-shaven white guy who was listed as "Bail Organa" but once the film came out, it was changed to "Bail Antilles" because apparently that surname is super common in the Star Wars galaxy.

  • @night6724

    @night6724

    Ай бұрын

    Clone Wars revealed there was in fact a Jedi named Sifo Dyas and Dooku killed him to pose as him for the Kaminoeans

  • @Doctor_Omega

    @Doctor_Omega

    Ай бұрын

    @@night6724 Right, but in the earlier script - the one that had books go out right before the film came out, it was "Sido Dyas" which was clearly meant to be "Sidious"

  • @permeus2nd
    @permeus2ndАй бұрын

    3:46 at least for a character like Plo Koon you couldn’t tell they replaced the actor that was in the first 2 with a new guy for the third film, sadly for the new guy they didn’t recast the faceplate so he had to wear the face plate that was made to fit Alan Ruscoe.

  • @CloneScavengerVulpin8389
    @CloneScavengerVulpin8389Ай бұрын

    I kinda wish we could get stories of eeth koth and agen kolar and/or stass allie and adi gallia teaming up to go on a mission for the council.

  • @s52pana
    @s52panaАй бұрын

    I had an Eeth Koth action figure.... and all of a sudden there was this Agen Kolar guy.... i wondered what happened to Eeth Koth

  • @gravygraves5112
    @gravygraves5112Ай бұрын

    Was not happy about how they killed off Adi in the Clone Wars. The comics and Jedi Starfighter made her out to be way to much of a badass to die like that.

  • @blaineishere3851
    @blaineishere3851Ай бұрын

    6:40 and both of the colemans got their names are tuckerizations of people who worked on the films. Robert coleman and his son, Jack.

  • @thehappycubonelego6817
    @thehappycubonelego6817Ай бұрын

    WAIT… what game is that at the end of the video with R2D2 and Perry the Platypus fighting???

  • @trevorp8124
    @trevorp8124Ай бұрын

    "I'm not Adi; I'm my original character, *BLADI* !"

  • @davidbastardo4154
    @davidbastardo4154Ай бұрын

    At one point in the EU, the Duros and Neimoidians were supposed to be the same species.

  • @stephenjohnston7630

    @stephenjohnston7630

    Ай бұрын

    Good story behind this (IIRC from Cinefex no. 78, the Phantom Menace issue). When the intended CGI version of the Nemoidians (essentially what would become the Geonosians) couldn't be delivered on time/budget, George decided to go with a different entirely-practical-mask look. With very little design time left before shooting started, he flicked through an archive book of Cantina aliens, spotted the two Duros masks and said "they'll do". And thus the Nemoidians we know were born.

  • @harrambou9468

    @harrambou9468

    Ай бұрын

    Oh no

  • @davidbastardo4154

    @davidbastardo4154

    Ай бұрын

    @@stephenjohnston7630 As far as in-universe sources go, I believe they also have the same racial ancestry. I like that. It's realistic.

  • @Shrapnel82
    @Shrapnel82Ай бұрын

    Kit’s new appearance in episode III is explained by that being after Amidala learned he was called “Fisto”.

  • @Elidrys
    @ElidrysАй бұрын

    Eath Koth was the best case argument for this was all just the same guy - too visually similar at a glance and no one would be the wiser. The Adi Galia switch was the goofiest - switching actress for a scene because actor unavailable, but same character, kill her off later THEN replace with a near identical cousin...the cousin part is the goofy thing. Why replace with a similar character that's just gonna confuse people and seem like the same one? I agree the Clone Wars series was a good opportunity to kill off some in the war and replace them, but replace them with meaningful NEW characters that look different...not just lookalikes.

  • @NoCluYT

    @NoCluYT

    Ай бұрын

    The Eeth Koth one is reasonable because one looks black and the other looks South Asian. You could get away with it. However the Adi Galia one was just Lucas taking the piss surely.

  • @Warrior_Jedi
    @Warrior_JediАй бұрын

    7:33 Ah yes, 'Jedi Dartboard' approach which led to many of the retcons I hate... (Also I think that Eeth Koth's original fate was being in the random LAAT that gets shot down in AotC, that's a retcon I'm fine with since other Jedi like Sora Bulq survived the same crash).

  • @Spenceley
    @SpenceleyАй бұрын

    Wow. I knew about all these characters but never thought about them at the same time, so they were just interchangeable in my head lmao

  • @BlindJedi

    @BlindJedi

    Ай бұрын

    Gets worse when you consider Pablo-Jil/Coleman Kcaj and Depa Billaba/Sar Labooda.

  • @fritz404
    @fritz404Ай бұрын

    Its to sell more toys 👍

  • @nathansheldahl

    @nathansheldahl

    Ай бұрын

    And to shut up annoying nerds complaints. Two birds one stone. 😁

  • @davidbastardo4154

    @davidbastardo4154

    Ай бұрын

    A sorcerer did it.

  • @joshuagorski9452
    @joshuagorski9452Ай бұрын

    If Jedi are supposed to forgo all personal attachments, why are Adi and Stass both allowed to be on the Council?

  • @crispy_338
    @crispy_338Ай бұрын

    Production members as background extras or cameos would be a cool one to do

  • @volksdude1970
    @volksdude1970Ай бұрын

    Ok, I gotta know. What's the game at the end where R2 is duking it out with Perry the Platapus on an 32-bit version of the Termina arena?

  • @mandalorianprotector5856
    @mandalorianprotector5856Ай бұрын

    I believe in legends eeth koth died in aotc when his gunship got shot down right in front of mace windu. Also, in some of the behind the scenes of tcw dave mentioned to george that eeth was already dead at that point but decided to put him in anyway. I kind of wished that they had instead put agen kolar in instead of eeth koth, so those of us who still like to put canon and legends together wouldn't be a big problem.

  • @StuartLugsden
    @StuartLugsdenАй бұрын

    Can’t believe you didn’t bring up Depa Billaba and her sister.

  • @shakenba30n
    @shakenba30nАй бұрын

    The funny thing is, the actress who played Stass Allie in Ep3 Order 66 scene looks way closer to Adi Gallia's Actress from Ep1 than the other Stass Allie's actress in Ep2

  • @DrewLSsix
    @DrewLSsixАй бұрын

    I for one am offended that Lucasfilm didn't trust us fans to recognize that Yoda sometimes dresses in drag for youngling story time and felt the need to invent the character of Yaddle out of nowjere.

  • @Gaarafan007
    @Gaarafan007Ай бұрын

    I was always curious why Darths & Droids decided to make Wedge a shapeshifter, but now after this video, I understand.

  • @danielgertler5976
    @danielgertler5976Ай бұрын

    Does Yarael Poof get the pizza? If not then thats not the real Yarael Poof.

  • @princecharon
    @princecharonАй бұрын

    Kit Fisto's change in appearance between Episode II and Episode III could just be what war trauma and lack of sleep looks like on his species.

  • @ben501st
    @ben501st28 күн бұрын

    Adi Gallia not being in the arena makes sense from an old lore perspective as she was piloting a jedi starfighter during the battle of geonosis in the game Jedi Starfighter.

  • @katanaridingremy
    @katanaridingremyАй бұрын

    Not for nothing, but as fun as the Star Wars property is, it's always been goofy. I'm genuinely surprised that so many people take this IP so seriously. None of the space battles are ever remotely realistic, they all function as if they are flying in atmosphere most of the time. The strategies they employ in space combat is also like WWI and WWII as well, which was fine in the 80s but still, it makes no sense. Lightsabers make no sense, why does the light stop at a certain length... Why does the light portion have weight to it... Why are force users able to redirect blaster fire but not just activate their light saber and rip chunks of light from that and force throw at targets... How can a lightsaber be so hot to melt hulls and blaster doors but cool enough to be in your hands and inches from body parts in some scenes. Why don't they cause massive explosions when Lightsabers come in contact with each other. Why do force users fall to their death? They are essentially just using telekinesis, if they can make things float then they can make themselves float and even fly. They should be able to fly in space even, create a bubble of atmosphere around themselves with telekinesis and then push that bubble around wherever they want to go. They can mind wipe but not mind read? What kind of telepathy is this... We are all seeing how this is really a story about one religious group Jedi (Christian, maybe catholic specifically) focused on virgin birth, resurrection, rebirth and afterlife vs Sith (Muslims) and how they both want to run the world their way and prevent the other from existing right. We do all see this... Oh and further, how the 3rd group (Jewish?, Buddhist?) thinks they both have it wrong and should balance both aspects instead of just being extreme in either direction. There is no Earth in star wars right? Yet, everyone except like 5 people have British accents... Why does Darth Vader have a black guys voice 😅 till this day I've never understood why give him a black guy voice if he's white and has his own not booming/cool sounding voice whining about sand outside armor. Don't get me wrong, I'm an 80s baby loved this stuff growing up. Now, as an adult it's still fun, but there's no way my sci fi indulged mind can take anything Star Wars does seriously. There are so many better and realistic properties yall need to be cheering and pushing for over this, like The Expanse etc. Star wars should be the goofy IP filling kids imagination with wonder and awe, not adults taking it seriously like this really matters. How can we also look at TMNT, Transformers, and He-Man and realize it's just supposed to be fun and not taken so seriously, and not do the same for Star Wars?

  • @Kenibus
    @Kenibus29 күн бұрын

    Who looks at an infant boy and decides “Oh, I know! I’ll name him Wedge”

  • @MrPapamaci88
    @MrPapamaci88Ай бұрын

    Remember how Palpatine reacted of Eeth Koth becoming a priest! That was just funny how that cracked him up.

  • @MADGator
    @MADGatorАй бұрын

    This explains a lot, but in retrospect, I'm shocked we were never told that Kit Fisto wasn't in Episode 3, and we were instead seeing his cousin, Kat Fasto. One more action figure for the collectors!

  • @JoshTruff
    @JoshTruffАй бұрын

    I like how you think most people would even know that characters from the ep 2 fight were in the films outside of the fight and not just extras.When you first showed the 2 characters I wondered what they were from because I didnt remember a spiky headed jedi at all let alone 2.

  • @-CrimsoN-

    @-CrimsoN-

    Ай бұрын

    lol Star Wars die hard fans pick up on it. When I was a kid, I had a TON of Star Wars reference books that used to explain all this stuff. I ended up learning more about that than real history lol

  • @Marandahir
    @MarandahirАй бұрын

    Four pairs actually - Depa Billaba was recast as well for the Battle of Geonosis, but similarly her recast actor was reassigned a new character, Depa's cousin, Sar Labooda. Regarding Wedge though, Fake Wedge is a separate canon character, even though they share a voice in the A New Hope. He's even got his own story in FACPOV! The two Colemans is because there were two separate Colemans involved with production - Robert Coleman (Trebor) and Jack Coleman (Kcaj)

  • @night6724

    @night6724

    Ай бұрын

    Couldn’t they already call one of them Col’em-an?

  • @Marandahir

    @Marandahir

    Ай бұрын

    @@night6724 No because that would make too much sense for a Tuckerisation! Instead we just got their last names as first names and their first names inverted as last names!

  • @noahwattel4226
    @noahwattel4226Ай бұрын

    They all happened to just have identical twin siblings, this really explains how Shaak Ti managed to die so many times.

  • @Air4swan
    @Air4swanАй бұрын

    I loved your podcast discussion on this. Weirdly under-discussed curiosity 😂

  • @Air4swan

    @Air4swan

    Ай бұрын

    Always a much more intriguing topic IMO-impact of BTS elements on story execution, like presence of seemingly primitive tech in OT vs later films. Truth is that SW civilization will have seen things like singularities/AI disasters and has probably learned some costly lessons, making it preferable to have dumbed-down tech in many instances, explaining why the tech doesn’t evolve much over thousands of years. Also the kit-bashed, gray aesthetic of OT Imperial ships reflects their cold, mass-produced military machine, etc.

  • @night6724

    @night6724

    Ай бұрын

    this always bugged me as a kid

  • @mesa176750
    @mesa176750Ай бұрын

    I had a crazy video idea, idk if you've done it already, but if you were given total control of star wars, what would you canonize and decanonize (or if you didn't decanonize anything, how would you handle it?)

  • @carsbykris
    @carsbykrisАй бұрын

    They could write a whole story about Kit Fisto's drastic change between Ep. 2 and 3. Reminds me of the famous "1000 yard stare" image. Dude definitely saw some shit.

  • @campbellroehrich7146
    @campbellroehrich7146Ай бұрын

    I thought in Legends Eeth Koth died at the Battle of Geonosis

  • @-CrimsoN-

    @-CrimsoN-

    Ай бұрын

    Eeth Koth survived Geonosis and was captured by Greivous at one point. The Clone Wars TV Show is part of Legends up until season 7. At which point it crosses into Disney canon.

  • @campbellroehrich7146

    @campbellroehrich7146

    Ай бұрын

    @@-CrimsoN- OK cheers, I just know that a lot of people talk about how 2008 TCW retconned a lot of legend material, such as Even Piell and Adi Gallia's deaths, but it's still mt favourite TV show ever.

  • @leonrussell9607

    @leonrussell9607

    Ай бұрын

    He did die, you see his gunship get obliterated, dave is just awful and broke canon every episode

  • @Fordo007

    @Fordo007

    Ай бұрын

    Didn’t he survive the gunship explosion and turn to the dark side? I thought he killed Oppo in the comics.

  • @campbellroehrich7146

    @campbellroehrich7146

    Ай бұрын

    @@Fordo007 Wasn't that Sora Bulq?

  • @25843
    @25843Ай бұрын

    This was something that always confused the hell out of me as a kid, especially when the clone wars episode came out where grievous captures eeth koth, and adi gallia, anakin, and obi wan go to rescue him, especially after watching the movies and seeing toys at the store for years first

  • @keithguppy12345
    @keithguppy12345Ай бұрын

    That’s really interesting, I just did a video on what the council could look like in Acolyte and what action figures you can get to compete it (check it out) during the research I noticed just this and almost selected the wrong characters and was very confused for a moment. Love your video’s thanks .

  • @Exile97
    @Exile97Ай бұрын

    wait the way i so confidently said eeth koth was at the sidious fight. ive literally always thought it was him😭😭

  • @billcc7704
    @billcc7704Ай бұрын

    I guarantee the phrase "What do you mean 'We all look alike!?!'" was used in the counsel chamber more than once.

  • @jackgardner2514
    @jackgardner2514Ай бұрын

    My Favorite Star Wars ADR has to be "TWO FIIIGHTERS VS A STAR DESTROYAHH" int he most southern drawl imaginable

  • @BlindJedi
    @BlindJediАй бұрын

    I've always wanted someone to talk about this. You get the same thing with the characters of Pablo-Jil and Coleman Kcaj, and Depa Billaba and Sar Labooda. I think both Adi and Eeth would be tremendously more beloved characters if we had them through each of the prequel films, and having more of a connection if they die where they're doppelgängers die. We also won't have the situation of literally knowing nothing about Stass, Agen, and Coleman. There is still confusion with the official database for Obi-Wan Kenobi on whether or not we see Pablo-Jil or Coleman Kcaj in the tomb. Ironic with all the special edition and tweaks that have been made to the films, we still have these four cases running around.

  • @JosiahSum1Wallis
    @JosiahSum1WallisАй бұрын

    I need to know, what game can Parry the Platypus fight R2-D2 on a link map?

  • @MarMarBunbun

    @MarMarBunbun

    Ай бұрын

    Rivals of Aether

  • @nicholasmesick4020
    @nicholasmesick4020Ай бұрын

    The intro is iconic for eck too

  • @edmundsterling838
    @edmundsterling838Ай бұрын

    Wait, so there were two of them this whole time!!🤯

  • @KaiserMattTygore927
    @KaiserMattTygore927Ай бұрын

    I always thought all those duplicates were meant to be the same person, didn't even notice the thousands of times I watched these movies.

  • @JJJBunney001
    @JJJBunney001Ай бұрын

    I wonder if it was a contract thing too. Like they were contracted to play that character for 3 movies and would have to be paid regardless if their character appeared on screen even being played by another actor. Happens allll the time

  • @NoCluYT
    @NoCluYTАй бұрын

    Old Star Wars: Slightly different appearance = new character Disney Star Wars: Completely different appearance and personality = same character

  • @night6724

    @night6724

    Ай бұрын

    what is the example of Disney Star Wars?

  • @davidbastardo4154
    @davidbastardo4154Ай бұрын

    I think this is harmless goofiness. Kinda like classic Star Trek kitsch.

  • @theyodanesss
    @theyodanesssАй бұрын

    Before Dave Faloni changed it, Eeth Koth died in the Battle of Geonosis in the Legendary Continuity

  • @justinhammer3196
    @justinhammer3196Ай бұрын

    Chanting. The council needed more chanting. THE POWER OF SEATING!

  • @gy2045
    @gy2045Ай бұрын

    I remember buying a pack of the old Decipher SW CCG and pulling Wedge, looking at the picture and being like WTF is this... that's not Wedge :/

  • @a.d.janson
    @a.d.jansonАй бұрын

    Your video came out while I was at work listening to one of your two hour videos lol

  • @themoderndaygamer637
    @themoderndaygamer637Ай бұрын

    Just so you know. I’m all for using Star Wars Hunters gameplay as background gameplay all the time now. It’s amazing

  • @M-elephant7777
    @M-elephant7777Ай бұрын

    While in the EU the clone rifle was the DC-15A and the carbine was the DC-15S. Makes sense (S for 'short'?). In canon they decided that both are the the term DC-15A applies to both the rifle and carbine with those words needing to be added to distinguish them, which is so dumb and needlessly confusing.

  • @Vidiocity92
    @Vidiocity92Ай бұрын

    And yet when Episode IX started I was able to immediately tell we were on Mustafar when other people complained lol

  • @andresfurious8302
    @andresfurious8302Ай бұрын

    What is tahr game play in the back ground it looks cool I have never heard of that game

  • @DayLateGamerWill
    @DayLateGamerWillАй бұрын

    "...its like poetry, it rhymes..."

  • @krishuckle2
    @krishuckle2Ай бұрын

    I'm pretty sure the Eeth Koth died on Geonosis in legends, only for The Clone Wars to retcon that. Which I guess was to explain his actual absence for AOTC.

  • @scottn2046
    @scottn2046Ай бұрын

    My head cannon is that because the Force seems to be inherited and run in families that families with with recurring Force Sensitivity become local powerful families. And so, like Samurai in a Kurosawa film, you get Jedi with lineage going back centuries ... and a lot of them end up on the council.. I wanted that to be the story of what Dooku got to be a Count, but they went another direction.

  • @night6724
    @night6724Ай бұрын

    I literally thought the same thing about them replacing Koth and Adi with similar looking jedi.

  • @tatepalmer1997
    @tatepalmer1997Ай бұрын

    Factions compared idea sci fi insect swarm. Such as Tyranids, arachnids, Zerg, rachni, terminids.

  • @alexshinra6722

    @alexshinra6722

    Ай бұрын

    There...there is already alot of videos on that line up posted.

  • @into_play3226
    @into_play3226Ай бұрын

    Were the Backstreet Boy characters in episode 2 actual characters from the extended Star Wars universe?

  • @jaernihiltheus7817

    @jaernihiltheus7817

    Ай бұрын

    I'm not sure what you mean by "Backstreet Boy characters", but some of the Jedi seen in the prequels were from the extended universe, with the most famous example being Aayla Secura - who was added into the background for maybe 2 seconds in Episode 1, Jedi Temple scenes (walking around) & Geonosis in Episode 2, and on Felucia in Episode 3. In Episode 2 especially, George wanted there to be at least 50 Jedi on screen in the colosseum, and wanted a good mix of alien & human jedi there, so not only did they make quite a few on the spot for Episode 2, but they also pull some from other sources that exist during that timeframe just to make up the numbers.

  • @the_cyberchill
    @the_cyberchillАй бұрын

    I didnt know the ongree existed in the actual movies! I onjy saw them in swtor, that had to be a really whicked protetic for only a hologram

  • @cal593
    @cal593Ай бұрын

    Eckhardt, you forgot. No one's ever really gone.

  • @llliwwille
    @llliwwilleАй бұрын

    I’d love to hear about Coleman Kaj and Pablo jil cause they are the most odd example of this

  • @djn6962
    @djn6962Ай бұрын

    Yeah, growing up, I always thought they were just recast and that it was fine, since they were just background characters. I think making them distinctly different characters was more confusing haha. Only one that sort of made sense as separate characters were the 2 Zabrak.

  • @KilroyEdits-ic9fm
    @KilroyEdits-ic9fmАй бұрын

    It is for this reason that I believe that Kit Fisto was not in Palpatine's office. We are supposed to believe that these lookalikes are different characters, but these two completely different looking Nautolans are both Kit Fisto? I think not!

  • @keithguppy12345
    @keithguppy12345Ай бұрын

    Great video. Just did a video on the council myself 👍

  • @slicer940
    @slicer940Ай бұрын

    I know it’s probably just animation error but Cody just straight up disappeared in the clone wars movie in the beginning and then at the end he’s directing gunships without his visor and also somehow in the gunships going to Teth when Obi wan arrives

  • @YeOlGamer
    @YeOlGamerАй бұрын

    adi gallia is jedi starfighter for me

  • @thesumofitsparts
    @thesumofitspartsАй бұрын

    can anyone tell me what game is the background footage for this video?

  • @tasso8419

    @tasso8419

    Ай бұрын

    Star Wars Hunters. New mobile game

  • @Ragnorok657

    @Ragnorok657

    Ай бұрын

    @thesumofitsparts looks like smash bros at 1 point

  • @thesumofitsparts

    @thesumofitsparts

    Ай бұрын

    @@tasso8419 thank you

  • @MarMarBunbun

    @MarMarBunbun

    Ай бұрын

    @@Ragnorok657 That is Rivals of Aether

  • @Ragnorok657

    @Ragnorok657

    Ай бұрын

    @@MarMarBunbun don't care my guy didn't ask

  • @cptjoseph13
    @cptjoseph13Ай бұрын

    i would like to see more videos like this perhaps one that focuses on contradictions in star wars books

  • @octaviosardi3337
    @octaviosardi333728 күн бұрын

    I never noticed there were three wedges, hell when I was a kid I didnt even care about the background characters. I didnt even know people gave a crap about them to the point of being featured prominently in Legends. That was one of the reasons I started subscribing to Star Wars youtubers such as yourself Eckhart, the curiosity to learn what kind of insignificant detail could spiral into something interesting or simply idiotic haha.

  • @poleythepolarbear9706
    @poleythepolarbear9706Ай бұрын

    What game is being played at the end of the video? 8:13

  • @user-qc4gw3in7x
    @user-qc4gw3in7xАй бұрын

    He did not pull his punches with kit fisto

  • @ODISeth
    @ODISethАй бұрын

    Hey question who’s the editor of this video? I saw the editors note implying it’s somebody else but don’t see anybody credited in the description as the editor.

  • @MarMarBunbun

    @MarMarBunbun

    Ай бұрын

    :)

  • @ODISeth

    @ODISeth

    Ай бұрын

    @@MarMarBunbun oh heck yeah! Are you the editor for all videos on this channel? You do a great job!

  • @MarMarBunbun

    @MarMarBunbun

    Ай бұрын

    @@ODISeth Not all of them but i've done pretty much most of the recent ones. Thank you! I try, glad you enjoy the videos

  • @farwilindarys5950
    @farwilindarys5950Ай бұрын

    I have thought about these details many times as a child

  • @AtlasFlynn
    @AtlasFlynnАй бұрын

    But what are your thoughts on Star Wars Hunters? Sentinel is my main

  • @juliobro1
    @juliobro1Ай бұрын

    Wow, I had noticed the difference in a couple, but didn't know it was so many.

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