1970s music? "Ooby Dooby" was written in the mid-1950s and performed by Roy Orbison, the version we hear in First Contact, soon after. "Magic Carpet Ride" squeaks in under the wire in the late 1960s.

Naughty naughty, you made a mistake. Saying Cochrane’s love for 1970s music. The 2 most prominent songs Cochrane listens to in First Contact are Ooby Dooby the 1957 Roy Orbison hit and Magic Carpet Ride by Steppenwolf from 1969.

@Omegavision79

Жыл бұрын

100%. I call this a DJ Ötzi error.

@axthelmk

Жыл бұрын

Good carch

The best scene in all of Star Trek was when Cochrane played Magic Carpet Ride by Steppenwolf. It was so 'not Star Trek' yet somehow so incredibly fitting in the Universe.

@seanthornton4382

Жыл бұрын

The book version of the book (spoilers) Badly Bi polar but mediated by a implant that would run a decade....it failed 3 years after ww3. Its why he took up drinking, helped stabilize him. He turned the nuclear core into a reactor for the warp drive. (Guess you dont HAVE to use antimatter.

@darklordofsword

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I think people get stuck on Trek as this serious, stoic Sci fi drama when it's always been FULL of goofy, off-kilter moments and funny bits.

@chriseash6497

Жыл бұрын

@@seanthornton4382 The Nuclear Power reaction involves anti-matter.

@seanthornton4382

Жыл бұрын

@@chriseash6497 well, no mention of antimatter showed up in the book, or in the movie. Source?

@DragoonMS

Жыл бұрын

@@darklordofsword And if folks couldn't figure that out just from The Original Series (or The Next Generation, for that matter)...their humor senses must be either malfunctioning or altogether dead. Because how do you NOT catch all that comedy throughout any particular series!? (Even the Kelvin stuff has its hilarious moments!)

Fun fact. Cochrane is a family name here in Montana. There is a Car dealership here named Archie Cochrane Ford. While not originally from here, in 1945, Archie started the dealership and established a family in the area. He became fairly active in the local community, especially with starting our local baseball team. So there are some Cochranes in Montana. This is in Billings, but it is only 2 hours from Bozeman.

@serronserron1320

Жыл бұрын

Fun fact. I cant reafgd

@mospeada1152

Жыл бұрын

'While not originally from here...' lol. Alpha Centauri maybe?

@johnbockelie3899

Жыл бұрын

Maybe the Cochrane of TOS was a pre drunkard younger version. After all the companion cloud made him younger and in good health.

@robertkesselring

Жыл бұрын

Am I the only one who's brain saw "Alcubierre Cochrane" instead of "Archie Cochrane" on the first glance?

@jv-lk7bc

Жыл бұрын

is there a statue?

"Don't try to be a great man, just be a man and let history make its own judgements." -- Zephram Cochrane

@stephenkehl7158

Жыл бұрын

That’s rhetorical nonsense.

@paulbabcock2428

Жыл бұрын

@@stephenkehl7158 How so?

@sasquatch2

Жыл бұрын

@@stephenkehl7158 who said it?

@aerisgainsborough2141

Жыл бұрын

@@paulbabcock2428 woooosh

@paulbabcock2428

Жыл бұрын

@@sasquatch2 To my knowledge only Zephram Cockran ever said it- Zephram Cockran, who, according to the story, wasn't particularly trying to become great or famous, but instead just wanted to make a few dollars, like most men. So in his case, it absolutely is not rhetorical nonsense. So again, how so?

After watching the Lower Decks ep, it puts a whole new spin on First Contact. Geordi is so tickled that Cochrane is standing right where his statue will be in the future. This means that at one point Geordi visited the Bozeman theme park and probably enjoyed a churro and bought a Cochrane hat.

@LanMandragon1720

Жыл бұрын

LaForge being well himself he probably brought a girl there and struck out hard. They never have that dude a break 😪

@johnmullholand2044

Жыл бұрын

"You told him about the statue?" LOL

My head cannon for a few of these: Zefram Cochrane kept pushing the limits of his ships, going faster and farther each time, until setting his sights on the nearest star system to us, Proxima Centauri and Alpha Centauri. For being the first person to reach that far, he became known for it. 2. He didn't have dilithium crystals. I've always viewed dilithium as a sort of focuser of the energy beams, like a prism, but it is the only crystal with the right properties to handle the energies. But it is not necessary, especially at low warp speeds. Basically, he was running his engines dirty and very inefficiently, but it was enough to break the light barrier. Later refinements would lead to the discovery of dilithium and its warp engine uses...or it was told to us by the Vulcans, who hated seeing our inefficiency.

@LarryGarfieldCrell

Жыл бұрын

The "focusing" idea of dilithium is straight out of the TNG Tech Manual, so you're on the right track there. (Until Discovery decided to start making stuff up at random. Again...) Whether it's possible to run a M/AM reactor without it safely at "low efficiency" levels is an open question.

@turkeytrac1

Жыл бұрын

Spot on, this is canon. The 10 things is crap

@dermotcraddock4802

Жыл бұрын

@@LarryGarfieldCrell The TNG Tech Manual, while well made, is, like all other print publications, not official canon. Canon is only what appears on screen.

@yetinother

Жыл бұрын

I can't see the Vulcans hating the inefficiency in your last sentence, I think they just find it highly illogical to not be efficient

@dermotcraddock4802

Жыл бұрын

@@yetinother Though they also find it illogical to give a species advanced warp technology before they are ready for it. Especially one as illogical and unpredictable as humans.

From what I understand, Cochran's first warp ship was fusion powered, not anti-mater powered. And dilithium crystal is used to regulate the matter anti matter reaction. THUS there would be no need for dilithium crystal in that ship. Just pump that fusion power directly to the nacelles.

@geoffreyhooker9005

Жыл бұрын

The early episodes of TOS featured lithium crystals rather than dilithium

@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491

Жыл бұрын

harder to control !

@internetdumbass

Жыл бұрын

@@geoffreyhooker9005 just big old lithium ion batteries under controlled explosion lol

@DMSProduktions

Жыл бұрын

You should NEVER be anti mater!

@alexslgato1735

Жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly dilithium wasn't needed for warp engines, just that an engine designed without dilithium crystals was extremely inefficient and could only work at very low warp barely above warp 1; and thus dilithium-based warp engines were essential for higher-warp and exploration.

1:48 The word “alumni” is plural. The singular is “alumnus” for a man and “alumna” for a woman.

@jv-lk7bc

Жыл бұрын

sometimes shortened to the nongendered "alum". (even tho it isn't proper latin)

@tookitogo

Жыл бұрын

@@jv-lk7bc Yeah, that’s very common. But at least people know it’s an abbreviation. It just bugs me that people think “alumni” is a singular. (Same as how lots of people think “phenomena” is a singular, apparently unaware of the word “phenomenon”.)

Dear TrekCulture: I think Ellie has earned her Starfleet uniform by this point.

@arbjbornk

Жыл бұрын

Her uniform is scheduled to be delivered on Tuesday.

@Shiirow

Жыл бұрын

but whomever is doing the visual editing should get theirs revoked for using Star Trek Short Bus clips.

Dilithium isn't a power source, it's a regulator for the antimatter stream which is needed to exceed warp one. Zephram used the plutonium from the nuclear bomb to crate a fusion core which is why there was a problem with the missile being radioactive despite the first stage of the rocket being chemically powered. Always baffled me that until I came across it being mentioned somewhere.

Spock: "The name of Zefram Cochrane is revered throughout the known galaxy. Planets were named after him. Great universities, cities."

@EphPhaThaINC

Жыл бұрын

“They made a statue about him.” “You told him about the statue?”

@schumi9xwdc

Жыл бұрын

Cannabis Strains, Steppenwolf sounds a lot better!

@paulcochran1721

Жыл бұрын

It is a great name... with or without an "E" !😄

@Chuck_Hooks

Жыл бұрын

My name is Zefram. I'm from the planet Cochrane. I grew up in Cochrane City. I went to Cochrane University.

@johnbjorkman4144

Жыл бұрын

Cochrane, Ontario (and Alberta!) anticipated this over 100 years ago. 😁

The spelling inconsistency is pretty much par for the course. My parents and younger brother have the variant spellings of their names, so people tend to write their names as the more common spelling. It's possible he didn't care either way, much the same as my family, so he didn't worry about making corrections.

@DMSProduktions

Жыл бұрын

They should NOT be so flippant, the LAW does not SEE it that way! Different spellings = different PEOPLE!

@silversonic1

Жыл бұрын

@@DMSProduktions In that case, you'd be claiming someone committed fraud because someone else got the spelling wrong. Honestly, I know John Stewart isn't a comedian and Jon Stewart isn't a Green Lantern. But people do get spelling wrong. Also did I mention how language evolves over time? Federation Standard, a.k.a. English, is no different. Humans will always be imperfect regarding language. We have in the last 30 years not only redefined many words, but have made different spellings and even new words that have become acceptable. And how many times have you heard "James's stuff" instead of "James' stuff"? It has especially become acceptable even though it was considered erroneous before. Hell, I even know someone with the same first name as me, but with two vowels switched. It sounds the same, but isn't spelled the same. So, yeah. Language can be weird.

In the original series, it would make no sense for Cochrane to be from "Alpha Centauri" but at the same time be the discoverer of warp technology for humanity.

@NeoTechni

Жыл бұрын

waiiit, you're right.

@ZipplyZane

Жыл бұрын

Sure it does. He could (1) be from a human colony there, (2) have been a native who traveled to Earth and created the ship there or (3) have invented warp drive on Alpha Centauri and then traveled to Earth and shared the technology. Heck, you can have 1 and either of the other two at the same time.

@MTTT1234

Жыл бұрын

In TOS it was mentioned a few times that mankind did not have Warpdrive, but a handfull of ships that could reach about like...75% of the speed of light, so there would be a few trips of these few ships between Earth and the nearest stars, as it would take 'just' a few years of travelling, with one or two human colonies even established there, before WW III happens.

@Anduril74871

Жыл бұрын

It's almost like Star Trek has contradicted its own canon on multiple occasions. For instance, the United Space Ship Enterprise representing the United Earth Space Probe Agency.

@davidm4566

Жыл бұрын

The idea was that it took a few years at the speed of light to make the journey. I guess having him be from another planet made him cooler and also may have given the extra incentive to invent faster travel since he was so far from Earth.

"You think I want to go to the stars? I don't even like to fly! I take trains!" - Zephram Cochrane April, 4th. 2063

@merickful

Жыл бұрын

Dollar signs!!!!

@masere

Жыл бұрын

@@merickful Naked women!

@AndersonNeo12

Жыл бұрын

@@merickful "I'd like to go an a tropical island... full of.. naked woman. That's the Sepharom, that's his vision" 😅

He'll always be Farmer Hogget to me.

@jrambo421

Жыл бұрын

That'll do sir, that'll do...

Behind the scene at Trek Culture. Got that Zephram Cochrane video finished and uploaded. That took much longer than I thought. Got it just in time. Now I can sit back and watch the season premiere of Lower Decks.

@ALL_OUT_OF_BUBBLEGUM

Жыл бұрын

"Panel Vixen" or PIXEL VIXEN

One thing we learn from this movie is from the 1960s to the 24th century, nobody comes up with new music worthy of playing during the first warp drive maiden flight.

@Pygar2

Жыл бұрын

I turned off my radio in 1982; nothing I've heard since makes that seem like a bad choice... I miss WAKY but it's gone forever...

One question I always had about the first warp flight was, How the hell did they get back to Earth? You can't land that thing, can you?

@ChrisEllorris

Жыл бұрын

Could be like Space-X and it is a re-usable rocket that can land?

@derianvandalsen

Жыл бұрын

Parachutes, probably

@markkasprzak995

Жыл бұрын

It’s just a movie.

@generalilbis

Жыл бұрын

@@ChrisEllorris The Phoenix was a retrofitted ICBM. So it didn't come with SpaceX Dragon-style landing retro-rockets, but one could assume some were installed. That or anti-gravity tech was in its infancy before WWIII and were installed by Cochrane to allow for landing.

@TubbysExplorationsYT

Жыл бұрын

Uh, when you hit the ground, just like, run really fast or something. It'll work...

The man brought the phrase " functional alcoholic " to a stellar level. 🚀

I was a teenager when I first watched TOS Metamorphosis. The story for me was the best of both worlds, sci-fi and a love story! I still hum the background music! Fish Man channel Star Trek TOS music-Metamorphosis .Glen Corbett wasn’t bad on the eyes either!

Ten minutes in I saw a picture of Sock with Optimus Prime (yes, really) and I immediately forgot what this video was about.

If you're the first person to settle on a planet, you can say that you're from that planet. TECHNICALLY false, but... Yeah. Being a "different person" is actually pretty real. A life changing event can leave you unrecognizable in all but appearance.

I read several SF stories featuring a 'Tom Cochrane', inventor of a spaceship drive. I seem to remember one of them was a 'Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea' episode. I assumed Zephram Cochrane was an infringement-avoiding knock-off/homage to this character. (I just remembered it was a story in a 'Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea' annual from about 1967/1968 with an egg-shaped spaceship.)

As someone myself who often has people spelling my name incorrectly (it's not difficult, it's just people are stupid), it's no surprise there was a misunderstanding of Zefram vs. Zephram, personally I've always used the former for him, mostly cos I didn't actually know there was a "ph" version... :P

@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491

Жыл бұрын

i thought it was *zephod* !

Its funny I only noticed it now in the B-Roll, when the phoenix launches there are these sparkers going off. Either the film makers didnt know that ICBMs are solid fueled boosters or during the building of the Phoenix the first stage was swapped for an LH2-O2 engine.

A suggestion - when you're editing, add at least a 0.2-second gap between audio clips - it'll allow the audio to feel more realistic and smooth-flowing.

One thing is for sure, Jonathan Frakes was gorgeous in First Contact.

If you look at the hat that zeph from Cochran wore in the TNG movie, it bears a strong resemblance to the Archie comic character Jughead. Jughead wore a hat similar to this, and we all know what Jughead was a nickname for, it was a guy who loved to drink.

How convenient to do a video on Cochrane. What timing!

He didn’t split the infinitive. He said “to go boldly”.

You don't need dilithium to do a 5 second warp flight. Assuming dilithium is a strong power source, nuclear or some other source should also work for a short warp 1 flight.

@Shinzon23

Жыл бұрын

The way I understand it isn't as necessary if you're not going to do any sort of long distance travel i.e. You can charge up a bunch of capacitors, jammed the power into the warp coils and you'll have a short range FTL jump. for long range though, you need matter anti matter reactions and in order to prevent that from making the ship constantly try explode in a high megaton or gigaton yield explosion, you need to have the matter/antimatter reaction happen inside a dilithium crystal, which turns the otherwise apocalyptic explosion into a somewhat safer plasma stream... Actually we know for a fact that you don't need dilithium for warp drive-in the form of the romulan singularity drive; they just have a caged black hole in the Ships core that they dump matter into and siphon off for warp power.

@puellamservumaddominum6180

Жыл бұрын

Dilithium is not a power source, supposedly helps focus the real power source which is anti matter which powers the warp drive.

@davidm4566

Жыл бұрын

@@puellamservumaddominum6180 I would assume that dilithium was the source of the anti-matter reaction. Why else were they constantly looking for more dilithium in the Original Series if you could just get one crystal?

The ride in lower decks reminds me a lot of the millennium falcon Smugglers run at the Disneyland!

This was great 👍. Thanks for posting

Talking about misspellings, editor, you spelled Phoenix incorrectly in the intro to the last item ("pheonix")...

Really cool video. You guys are getting so polished in effects etc

I must admit to never spending much time thinking about him. But that was good to know. Thank you.

I always thought that dilithium was a post warp improvement that allowed the Warp 5 Engine and was not part of the original generation of warp drives

Ooby Dooby is a song from 1961, not the 70's.

That detective, is the right question

@merickful

Жыл бұрын

I, see what you did there!

6:43 Alpha Centauri B is a star, which has been known since the 1700s. Currently only Promixma Centauri (Alpha Centauri C) has confirmed planets, but there are several unconfirmed on A and B.

@nonhominid

Жыл бұрын

Proxima

As far as I'm concerned, Glenn Corbett Zefram (that's with an "f", no bloody "ph") Cochrane is REAL Zefram (with an "f") Cochrane. Not meant to disparage James Cromwell's version, but I grew up in the '70's with Corbett, and to me Corbett it will always be.

It seems odd to show the clip from Lower Decks but seemingly not mention it at all in the list. Granted, I haven't seen the episode to know what's going on there, but, even if it's some holodeck recreation, it shows that he's still important even in animated Trek.

@allengilbert7463

Жыл бұрын

It was Bozeman, MT in the 2380s, not a recreation. So yeah, the fact that the site of the first human warp flight basically became an amusement park is kind of a big deal.

@raffi_veiga

Жыл бұрын

The title of the video is 10 Things You Didn't Know About Zephram Cochrane. Why would they add stuff from an episode that came out last week? I think the objective here was to provide more historical context or a recap.

@ZipplyZane

Жыл бұрын

@@raffi_veiga Because the video is going to exist long after those episodes came out. Plus it's video on demand: people don't always watch shows when they come out. Heck, it's popular not to have a permanent subscription to lower content channels like Paramount+, subscribing only every once in a while. They included the video clip, so they clearly weren't trying to avoid spoilers. So why not at least mention what's going on?

Star Trek as told by a (young) female - Wow, but to this old man, The sci-fi universe has changed for the better. For Most of my life females were never interested in Sci-fi nor Star Trek so hearing one talk about Star Trek is a mind-blowing experience. It is a welcome change and a HAPPY SURPRISE. I Hope to see many more things to come now that Star Trek and Sci-fi have be one mainstream in our culture.

@dermotcraddock4802

Жыл бұрын

As far as I know, Star Trek had a comparatively high amount of female fans even when there was only TOS, kick-starting fan fiction culture.

@Animalwon

Жыл бұрын

@@dermotcraddock4802 I refered to all the people I ran into. I didn't start seeing young females in the stardom until after I'd gone past my 30th birthday back at graduate school and walked past a Star Trek convention going on in NYC. Even there the females I saw were my age. In college I never ran into a college trekkie female, even though I was studying in the science field.

@peghines

Жыл бұрын

@Ani mal I and my sisters were some of those many young female fans of TOS. We still get excited by every new Star Trek episode and hold our own critiquing conference calls. For me, by the time the conventions started to happen I had kids and work and grad school so finding time to travel several hours to attend was just not feasible. I wonder how many other female ST fans have had similar experiences.

@Animalwon

Жыл бұрын

@@peghines I wonder that, too, how many were kept inactive by life, marriage and kids. But my early experiences came about from the reactions of Jr jigh and High school girls turning away when conversations about Star Trek came up. NOW they are seen everywhere but back then *I* never had one show an interest in Star Trek. Even comics and graphical novels were relegated to boys, in my mind because of the same reactions seen in the "girls" in classes to any boy reading such material. Go to a Marvel movie and you see LOTS of them...and not always paired up with a guy (like it was a date if some kind). My initial post was "WOW - it is NICE to see "girls" (Finally-?) involved in Sci-fi and Star Trek." Much like in my science classes. It used to be a "sausage factory", but now the classrooms look like any student population in a liberal arts class. Happy Days!

You don’t have to take the book as “conjecture” it’s been established by Gene Roddenberry and then every show runner of every show, that whatever appears on screen (movies, tv, and cartoons) are all 100% canon, and nothing else is, no video games (Star Trek online included) and no books. There have been hundreds and hundreds of comics, video games, and lots of really great books, and not one of them is regarded as even remotely canon.

Cheers from the Pacific West coast of Canada.

I've watched I don't know how many episodes of Trek Culture, and it took this episode to make me realize I hadn't subscribed. It was a bit of surprise, and I just remedied that.

NCC-59318 -- 59318 is the ZIP (postal) code for Brusett MT, a township area tied closely to the Montana Freemen movement that went down in mid-1996 (presumably while First Contact was still filming). Brusett is about 215 miles northwest of Bozeman, roughly a 5 hour drive. I can't help thinking there must be some relevance to that somewhere. Bozeman has a handful of ZIP codes associated with its area, one of which is 59718, a number that's also close enough to seem noteworthy.

@ZipplyZane

Жыл бұрын

Which also shows up in the Voyager episode Future's End when they travel back to the 20th century, when Chakotay and B'Ellana crash a shuttle and are trapped by locals. At least, it was originally supposed to be in Montana, but, due to reducing the story to only two episodes, they needed to have it be closer by. Still, the captors are supposed to be Montana Freemen.

I especially like the screencap used as the thumbnail for this video. Levar can be seen in the background on the right looking like a bee just landed on his nose, lol.

Loved all three of the next generation films

1970's music? Ooby Dooby came out in 1956 and Magic Carpet Ride came out in 1968. I can't recall any 1970's period music in First Contact.

In Star Trek: Enterprise James Cromwell plays the evil alternate universe of Zephram Cochrane who upon the first contact with the Vulcans bushwhacks them and steals their spaceship.

@stephenkehl7158

Жыл бұрын

Or is that how events would have unfolded if it had not been for the interference from the Enterprise crew? It’s only after learning about the future promise of humanity does Cochrane fight his initial instincts to pull a gun on those pointy-eared interlopers.

@pietervanderzwaan4295

Жыл бұрын

​@@stephenkehl7158 no without the enterprise the borg would have stopped the first contact from happening in the first place.

@Shiirow

Жыл бұрын

@@pietervanderzwaan4295 I think they mean the original pre-borg timeline. with no time travel shenanigans.

4:09 - If this call sheet is accurate, he did not start at 7 :30 and leave at 11 :30. Out time is not listed on a call sheet. He reported to hair and makeup at 7 :30 and had to be ready for set by 11 :30. Three hours of hair and makeup for the cameo.

I realize a lot of people like to believe that dilithium crystals is an absolute necessity for warp drive but it has been said that it's needed to regulate the power from matter antimatter reactions. I like to see it as warp plasma is needed for warp drive and it takes a lot of energy to make warp plasma however we have seen warp plasma as at least partially stable within containers on both Voyager and Enterprise (the glowing display of the visible plasma in Voyager implies it would not be stable over the long term). Hence much more massive stationary equipment could reguate the power of matter antimatter reactions instead of using dilithium crystals or the warp plasma could be produced much more slowly off lesser power sources such as our current power generators. As to how a spacecraft could operate without a matter antimatter reaction and dilithium crystals, that would be by stored warp plasma. We have an example of this with our steam locomotive era where we had fireless locomotives moving cars around in a shipyard, these had insulated de gas flask tanks that stored steam from a stationary boiler. The use of stored warp plasma would explain why escape pods and shuttlecrafts could reach habitable planets and asteroids after an evacuation and indeed the shuttlecrafts have often cross distances in numerous episodes that would require FTL, Kirk even chased the Enterprise with a Shuttle even though the Enterprise was at warp in one episode of TOS. Operating from stored warp plasma could even allow limited FTL travel after the Burn mentioned in Discovery. Hence I would imagine that Cochrane's Phoenix used stored warp plasma that was slowly generated over a long period of time from the power sources of the time, perhaps matter antimatter sources with large stationary power regulators that did not involve dilithium crystals. Unfortunately, writers have already lacked the imagination to consider the stored warp plasma solution and have written beta canon involving dilithium crystals for Cochrane's Phoenix.

Cochrane's taste in music seemed more 1960s than 70s.

Ahhhh, Ellie's beautiful voice!!! 😍😍😍😍

A friend was trying to remember Zeph Cochrane's name in a recent conversation and managed to call him Zac Ephron instead for a minute, then we both had to work backwards to remember the actual name. So, er, maybe Zac's about to do something monumental.

I much preferred the original idea of Dr. Cochrane as hailing from Alpha Centauri- it even made sense as it would be too much to think humanity, recovering from a nuclear war, could still invent warp drive. As Alpha Centauri was a charter member of the UFP , having Cochrane show the basics of warp propulsion to Humans wouldn’t be a stretch. Federation is one of the best Star Trek novels IMVHO. The battle between the Enterprise and Thorsen’s cruisers, her entering the black hole and rescue by the Lexington and Excalibur would be impressive to see on film. Ditto the meeting between Cochrane and Flint/Micah Brack. Adrik Thorsen is one of Star Trek’s vilest villains. Kabreignhy was also another thorn in Jim Kirk’s side, cut of the same cloth as Robert Fox, High Commissioner Farris and Nilz Barris.

@MishraArtificer

Жыл бұрын

Glad I wasn't the only one who remembered that book...damn, that was a good one.

@dinomonzon7493

Жыл бұрын

Indeed. Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens are among the best Trek novelists; they even wrote episodes for Enterprise’s 4th Season. One other excellent work was Prime Directive.

Tom Hanks-My name is Zephram Cochrane, people call me Zephram Cochrane.

As much as I love First Contact I can't stop missing that the excellent Federation Cochrane will have to be head canon

It was 1950s and 1960s music, but ok I geeked out there great vid though

Thanks. 🖖🏻

Nice vid, stumbled over it while searching through my recommended section. When I found it I first thought the titled said " Zephram Cocaine". I read the title several times before I realized I was misreading the title. 🙄 Anyways, subbed and looking forward to the next vid.

Always glad for an Ellie video

James Cromwell played, in my recollection two characters in Star Trek: The Next Generation. The first episode I remember was one where soldiers were hyper stimulated, and at the end of that episode... protocol says that Starfleet cannot interfere with the dynamic culture of other planets.... The second one was about Warf's father, Mogh at the Battle of Khitomer. One guy (James Cromwell) approached him at DS9, speaking about it while being sly.

@merickful

Жыл бұрын

With his creepy hands and butter face?! I remember!!

@scottmcintosh4397

Жыл бұрын

The first role James Cromwell portrayed was First Minister of the planet Angosia. In the second role, Cromwell played a Uridian 《don't know if I spelled that right》. They're information merchants. I believe he reprised that role at least 1-2 more times in later Star Trek episodes in both STTNG & STDS-9. ~~Live Long & Prosper 🖖🏻👽🛸🪐 🌌🔭

@andrewlanglois6362

Жыл бұрын

@@scottmcintosh4397 Angosian soldiers hyper stimulated, Uridian tells Warf about Mogh on settled prison camp between Klingons and Romulans. Thank You, for the detail on that.

@1978rharris

Жыл бұрын

@@scottmcintosh4397 it’s *Yridian, and his name was Jaglom Shrek

@paulsarnik8506

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Yeah Shrek. (Not THAT one)

Fun fact: in TOS, he was from Alpha Centari .

EXCUSE ME it's 'Zefram' not 'Zephram'. I should know. The spelling mistake was only in draft scripts. The theatrical First Contact credits correctly spell his (first) name.

1970s music? Ooby Dooby was recorded in 1956 and Magic carpet ride was recorded in 1968.

The Alpha Centauri origan never made sense to me. it would be very difficult to draft any sort of plausible time line in a pre warp setting that would make that work.

@jv-lk7bc

Жыл бұрын

talk to Arthur C Clarke. ;)

When I saw _First Contact_ and as the Vulcans were the visitors, I immediately thought "yep!"

The registry number for the USS Cochrane is a zip code in Montana but not for Bozeman MT which are 59715-59718, 59771 & 59772. I wonder why they didn’t use one of those?

"You told him about the statue?"

Perhaps Zephram boasted being among the first persons to Alpha Centari. To the point where Earth became a "vacation home" 🖖😆

Well I didn't know he had appeared in anything before First Contact. A lot of names of people, species and places on Star Trek (or other sci-fi) might appear sometimes with different spellings - if you only hear a name and don't see it written down it's not always obvious how to spell it. Sounds like researching family history and trying to decipher handwriting on census forms, which may have had alternative spellings sometimes, or have been wrongly transcribed.

It seemed to be a more gentle time and I was a trekkie 🖖

It bothered me that Cromwell did not in any way resemble the Cochrane from TOS. But then I saw that episode the first time it aired.

@chrissonofpear1384

Жыл бұрын

Still got blue eyes and somewhat similar build.

James Cromwell was the perfect casting for Zefram Cochran.

No, I didn't know zephrham has a coch-ring 😳

I have read a few dozen Trek books and Federation is my fav w two Peter David stories,Imzadi and Vendetta , tieing for 2nd place.

@energicko

Жыл бұрын

Great reads! I used to have Shane Johnston's "Worlds of the Federation". Even though it was published BEFORE _First Contact_ the entry about Cochrane was interesting. It listed *Zella Racine* as the ambassador of A,B,Proxima Centauri by the 24th Century.

@paulbabcock2428

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@@energicko Was she Cockrams wife? I am pretty sure I remember him marrying some chick from Alpha Centari befor the bad guys killeded her.

@energicko

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@@paulbabcock2428 I don't think so. The book was prefaced by Lt Cmdr Data; when Zella was the Federation ambassador. Cochrane asked Kirk to keep him & his wife (The Companion/Nancy Hedford) secret from Starfleet, ~80 yrs earlier.

But but... pockets are still useful (yes I stay confused by lack of Trek pockets!)

@dhotnessmcawesome9747

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You don't know they don't have pockets. Watch Ro Laren giving a child her jacket. If her jacket can have an invisible zipper IN THE FRONT then there could also be seamless pockets. I had this thought once too. Then there was the episode with the jacket and my whole outlook on life changed. It's a 7th season of TNG episode. That's the only for sure thing I recall about it's placement in the series if you want to go watch the magic jacket. I've had to use other things like this to explain other things. Like lack of toilets.

@masere

Жыл бұрын

Riker pulled a little phaser from a pocket in Conspiracy.

It works , if you think about it

Zefram Cochran was from Alpha Centauri as established in,, "Metamorphosis". The scenario we were presented with in FC was impossible.

phoenix misspelled at t=696: "1. Pheonix from the flames"

Zeph- vs. Zef- in Cochrane's given name could be an in-universe transliteration artifact (like how the endings -ev/-eff and -ov/-off in Russian family names are transliterated into the Latin alphabet from the original Russian-Cyrillic -ёв and -ов respectively.)

I contend that there IS money in the federation as noted in the decipher roleplaying game. Its just that if youre in star fleet or a federation citizen, all basic needs are free. Picard still owns a vineyard. Does he pay a land value tax on that?

@dickhardpicard

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Nope

@NeoTechni

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Exactly. There's multiple references to there still being money. ie: Scotty "just bought a boat" in Undiscovered Country. So clearly anything beyond the basic necessities isn't free

That 1950's sounding song that Cochrane was dancing to with his bottle of alcohol? Ooby Dooby proformed by Steppenwolf? That was written specifically for the movie for Zephram Cochrane. Now you know what to add to this video. You're welcome.

Why didn't Mirror Universe Cochrane have a goatee?

@ZipplyZane

Жыл бұрын

Same reason Mirror Kirk, Sulu, and Chekhov didn't.

@11:24 is that robert picardo mining rocks? lol

@MTTT1234

Жыл бұрын

Well, in the Alpha-quadrant that specific model of the MHN was phased out in favor of newer ones, but instead of deleting them, they were used as miners on off-world mines.

@MyogaSama

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@@MTTT1234 I recall this factoid. Thank you for reminding me

Somebody please tell me where I can buy that Zephram hat haha

It's possible that Zephram Cochrane became Zefram Cochrane by legally changing the spelling of his name. It's clear in Enterprise and other series that Cochrane changed after his warp flight, so it's possible he may have wanted to show this change by changing the spelling of his name.

2063… Zephram has already been born.

It makes sense that Cochrane would have gone to Alpha Centauri only after the discovery of warp drive, because before that, it would have been a very long trip.

@jv-lk7bc

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it also would make sense that a member of a colony that took years to get to would be very motivated to build a faster ship!

also the orignal is meant to be from alpha centuari while first contact's version is definately 100% human.

I never liked this version of the first contact. I liked the version in the Trek novels , first contact happened when astronauts found a disabled Vulcan ship floating in space near Pluto. The Vulcans resented this along with the fact that we soon after developed warp drive. Vulcan's we're visiting earth for a long time. The book even mentioned that the journey took decades before warp drive. And we came up with it before they did.

"Centauri" (GEEZ, people!)

@ethinos2719

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A lot of folks complaining about alumni or the spelling of his name, and only one comment about how she horribly mispronounced Centauri. Sad.

EVENTUALLY YOU TIRE OF CONSTANTLY CORRECTING PEOPLE THAT SPELL YOUR NAME WRONG. HE WOULD THEN HAVE A DRINK AND LET IT GO

@MarkHarrison-bo3kf

Жыл бұрын

Shhhhhh

its confusing almost like there are two seperate zepherham cochranes out there with different histories. the orginal dude is a lot younger than first contact version.

I'm not surprised his name is frequently misspelled. I have a pretty common name, and people misspell it all the time, and sometimes combines it with my last name and call me "Albert."

@Shiirow

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my middle name is Allon, and have had people spell it almost every conceivable way except the correct way my entire life.

Did he have a brother and sister I read something about his origins where he had some family his brother missing it believed he went missing during a battle he fought during the ugenic wars?

Has anyone explained how Cochrane, Riker and Geordi returned to the surface after the first Phoenix flight? It was an old ICMB with no landing capability

@derianvandalsen

Жыл бұрын

Parachutes?

@masere

Жыл бұрын

Maybe the cockpit separates and can return? The rest of the ship can remain in orbit maybe.

@Epiphonus9

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The Vulcans gave them a ride?

@tonydagostino6158

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@@Epiphonus9 1st contact happened after the flight and return

@masere

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@@Epiphonus9 they were already on the ground when the Vulcan ship landed.