Omg omg omg omg!!!!

@JimGuckin

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome to see your cameo!

@boss-anova

3 жыл бұрын

Nice

@clappedmk7

3 жыл бұрын

It is agreeable to see you here

@simonwillis1529

3 жыл бұрын

A surprise for sure but a welcome one 😁

@OfficalFlameInc

3 жыл бұрын

LORE!!!!!

I’m an original Trekkie and to this day I still get the shivers when I see the USS 1701 streaking across the screen. It’s just so beautiful!

@laurogarza4953

3 жыл бұрын

She's an uncredited star of the show.

@MamaPinks

3 жыл бұрын

Yes!😍🥰😍

@seanryan3020

3 жыл бұрын

I was at the Air & Space museum in DC last year, and I got the same feeling when I got my picture taken with the model Enterprise they had there. I don't know if it was one of the models they actually used in the series, but I like to pretend it is.

@raymacdhomhnuill8018

3 жыл бұрын

USS Enterprise is the aircraft carrier. The Enterprise you see streaking across the screen is the UFP Enterprise NCC-1701. USS 1701 never happened. Even the NX-01 Enterprise was not a USS designation but a UESEA (United Earth Space Exploration Agency) vessel.

@laurogarza4953

3 жыл бұрын

@@raymacdhomhnuill8018 incorrect.

The reason Kirk got promoted after the 5-year mission is that he was the only captain (of the original 12 Constitution class starships) to successfully bring his ship home.

@chrisbuttonshaw2088

Жыл бұрын

that's DARK

@lamaahruloma4270

Жыл бұрын

Aah, prestižní hrobky

@Doofing_Cookies

Жыл бұрын

Hmmmm

@garycleveland6410

Жыл бұрын

Actually, I believe that the USS Constitution was decommissioned, not destroyed.

@itsmezed

Жыл бұрын

@@garycleveland6410 You may very well be right. I only recall reading that the Enterprise was the only ship of the class to return from her 5 year mission. I'll double check the Starfleet Manual (if I can find it) when I get the chance.

7:42 "The Enterprise attained sentience minutes before it was destroyed. It realized what it was, what was going on and what was about to happen." "Curiously enough, the only thing that went through the mind of the bowl of petunias as it fell with the Enterprise was 'Oh no, not again'."

@carlbruschnigjr1757

3 жыл бұрын

Good thing it didn't decide to blow itself up just because it wanted to . . .

@willb5571

3 жыл бұрын

Ha ha ha ha ha ha 🤗

@copland78

3 жыл бұрын

Many people have speculated that if we knew exactly why the bowl of petunias had thought that we would know a lot more about the nature of the Universe than we do now.

@MichaelRichartz

3 жыл бұрын

Glad I'm not the only one that immediately thought the same thing! lol

@jd-ev6cj

3 жыл бұрын

@@carlbruschnigjr1757 In the movie Dark Star, a good portion of the movie was the crew debating phenomenology with a sentient bomb, trying to convince it NOT to blow everyone up.

If I remember right the novelization of Star Trek the Motion Picture said Kirk had the lowest causality rate for a 5 year mission...

@GrimmShadowsII

2 жыл бұрын

From what I heard his ship is the only costitution class ship that returned from the five year mission and that's why he was promoted and the Enterprise Delta is everywhere around Starfleet.

Actually, Jeffries did receive one other instruction: "It couldn't look like a rocket."

@DMSProduktions

3 жыл бұрын

As IF!

@tonyperone3242

3 жыл бұрын

Yes,and no rocket flames and smoke.

@jonathanklein383

3 жыл бұрын

Also, "make her look powerful. "

@DMSProduktions

3 жыл бұрын

@@tonyperone3242 Red rocket, red rocket!!!

@jamesfisher2603

3 жыл бұрын

And Roddenberry was adamant that it had no fins ! He knew there would probably be some form of cigar shaped rockets but was sick of seeing fins on the sides !

As a kid, I can remember the destruction of the Enterprise feeling like my best friend had died. I simply could not believe it was gone.

@HandofOmega

3 жыл бұрын

I remember sitting there as a kid when they showed the destruction of the Enterprise *in the freaking trailer on the TV commercial!* My young mind figured that that couldn't possibly be the Enterprise because theres no way theyd show something like that in the trailer so that it was probably another constitution-class Starship...buuuut NOPE! Still astounded by that...

@SirWussiePants

3 жыл бұрын

And then they destroyed it again. and again. It got to be stupid instead of shocking. By the end of Picard's run (and I love Picard) they must have been on 1701-ZZ

@xaenon

3 жыл бұрын

I literally stood in the theater and howled NOOOOOoooooooooooo! once countdown proceeded past the 'minimum'.

@davidatkinson47

3 жыл бұрын

It still gets me.

@AusNetFan13

3 жыл бұрын

I'm one of the ones that doesn't believe the Enterprise wasn't totally destroyed in the movie. If it REALLY was destroyed, the magnetic field around the Warp Core would have been off and then there would have been an Antimatter-matter explosion that would have destroyed the Genesis planet with everyone on it. The remaining hull would have bounced off the planet's atmosphere. Yes, the laws of physics applies here.

Many years ago back in the early 70's I had a blue print of the Enterprise so I was aware of the 37 degree offset to port(I believe it was 37 degrees at least... And behind the screen was an emergency exit) Anyways, a tidbit of information. I heard the US Navy was impressed with the bridge and thought they might could use the design on some of their ships. My fellow Trekkies and I were working aboard a class of destroyers our company was building and though it wasn't on the bridge which was typically like so many other bridges before it, but instead, we we noticed on the deck below it in the CIC (Combat Information Center) that the consoles were installed in a circular pattern with them facing the watch commanders chair (usually the 1st Officer). These, unlike the Enterprise, were generally aimed more towards the starboard side with the chair being placed slightly port of centerline. That way he could immediately keep track of everything going on around the ship and from what station from his chair. Before that many were just placed in rows so they would have to identify which station was reporting. Also, behind him was a long row of tables with chart boards located over the top of them so he could easily spin around to look at the other information he needed. I do not know if they used similar designs in other ships but at least on these they did which was kind of exciting to see how the science fiction show had influenced real life naval vessels.

@krazyglue60

3 жыл бұрын

Kurwynd I still have the blueprints and it says Offset 36°.😊 Good memory though!

@Kurwynd

3 жыл бұрын

@@krazyglue60 Thank you! It has only been 44 years since I last saw them.

@johntabler349

3 жыл бұрын

Fascinating tidbit thanks for sharing

@Eowyn3Pride

3 жыл бұрын

Cool!😁🍦

@thomasglynn2282

Жыл бұрын

I remember those blueprints my older brother is a huge trekie and had those prints, they came in a plastic folder and where multiple pages.

Interesting Enterprise fact: Even in TOS, the saucer could be separated from the "drive section" (the ability was mentioned in the episode "The Apple") but only in emergencies and would act as a kind of lifeboat. The "eyebrows" (two triangular pieces) on the underside of the saucer were actually landing gear and, along with the interconnecting dorsal, would allow for it to land on a planet's surface.

@robertf3479

3 жыл бұрын

True enough, the intention was that the saucer could become a long term lifeboat such as 1701-D did in Generations. But for the saucer to rejoin with the secondary hull would require the assistance of a shipyard according to canon.

@thfpt

3 жыл бұрын

I remember reading this in a comic book when I was a kid. They separated the saucer section as some kind of combat maneuver for surprise effect, I think. I wish I could remember the name of the particular title.

@josephwisniewski3673

3 жыл бұрын

Sort of. It was supposed to land frequently, until the production team got a quote on filming that. So they "invented" the transporter.

@douglashowe6463

3 жыл бұрын

Have you see Star trek Continues E 11 it show the enterprise separating the saucer from the main body

@goldenknight578

3 жыл бұрын

@@douglashowe6463 I love STC so have seen all of the episodes multiple times, and I loved the saucer sep scene in that episode. I definitely consider STC more canon (Roddenberry's sons seem to agree) than most of the references used in this video. On the refit, there are a couple of lines at around the same place on the neck indicating a separation point, so I guess it matches up.

@11:07. Whoa now. How can you say Kirk asked Spock to take over in Star Trek 2? It was literally the opposite. Spock offered the ship when they were ordered to go investigate and Kirk turned him down. Spock insisted, noting that if they were to go on actual duty it is clear the senior officer must assume command. Kirk then still attempts to turn it down on the basis the problem may be nothing and it's only when Spock reminds him that he has no ego to bruise, that Kirk relents.

@scifiguy26

3 жыл бұрын

Yes... commanding a Starship is your first best destiny.. Spock to Kirk🖖🏾

@shanerasmussen5225

3 жыл бұрын

Had the same thought KJ. Still, given Stephen Collins admission of his vile acts against children Will Decker should have been chucked out the airlock. Even better would have been not rehashing the plot of TOS's The Changeling for STTMP.

"My God, Bones ... what have I done?" "What you had to do. What you always do. Turn death into a fighting chance to live." Those are the words, Adam. For some of us, those words are seared into memory, and we can quote them verbatim as if it was 1984 and we'd just come out of the cinema, shaken, pallid and sobbing.

Lore Reloaded with the casual destruct order is a mood.

I agree with you about the Enterprise stealing scene from "Search for Spock", it is the best scene. Not because of the actual theft but because of the love and loyalty that Ohura, Checkov, Sulu and Scott show.

@HandofOmega

3 жыл бұрын

One of my favorite scenes as well! And although I know it is not the best movie, IMO the scene in Star Trek 5 where sybok attempts to seduce Kirk Spock and McCoy to his side is one of the best scenes in all the movies, if not All Star Trek!

@Cydonia2020

3 жыл бұрын

The music was balls-on perfect. James Horner created a piece for a slow moving scene that made it as exciting as the car chase in The French Connection. Definitely in my top three favorite moments of any Star Trek film, it is only superseded by Spock’s talk with Kirk after the Fal-tor-pan on Vulcan. A single eyebrow lift and you knew everything was going to be okay.

@sherrillsmith8380

3 жыл бұрын

Isn't this the scene where Kirk turns to McCoy and asks, "Bones, what have we done?"

@JMcLeodKC711

3 жыл бұрын

Sherrill Smith : That scene is later in Search for Spock. Kirk used the Enterprise self-destruct to kill most of the Klingons. Kirk and McCoy have beamed down to Genesis and are watching Enterprise burn up. Kirk says "Bones, what have I done". McCoy says "what you had to, what you have always done, turn death into a fighting chance to live"

@sherrillsmith8380

3 жыл бұрын

@@JMcLeodKC711 That is exactly the one that I had in mind because of the Klingons (Christopher Lloyd and his remaining squad) stealing the Enterprise, so Kirk had set the Destruct Sequence. Was Scottie the second approval with the code?

Destruct sequence 1, code 1-1 A." Destruct sequence 2, code 1-1 A-2B."Destruct sequence 3, code 1 B-2B-3."The computer would then reply:Destruct sequence completed and engaged. Awaiting final code for (time interval) countdown."The commanding officer would then state: Code zero zero zero. Destruct. Zero." So there are 4 codes not 3

@davincent98

3 жыл бұрын

I'm hearing that in Kirk's voice from TSFS

@carlbruschnigjr1757

3 жыл бұрын

As I recall, "Destruct Zero" was the default of an in-system self-destruct. Just prior to destruction, the ship would eject all the anti-matter so that they wouldn't blow the star system out of existence. "Destruct One" would collapse the magnetic fields around the anti-matter to cause self-destruct.

@davfree9732

3 жыл бұрын

​Shatner: "Get a life!" Fans. "... Just five more minutes?!?" Shatner: "... Naaaawwww. I can't say no to you."

@johnsoucy8909

3 жыл бұрын

I remember it well. Four codes were used.

@darrylgonzalez5251

3 жыл бұрын

You would think over the course of 20 years, Starfleet would have changed those self destruct codes multiple times!

Capt.April fun fact: in an early ST encyclopedia, Gene Roddenberrys image was used with him wearing a uniform, not the animated series. Great video!

@jimberg98

3 жыл бұрын

Robert April was the name of a character in two episodes of Have Gun Will Travel that Roddenberry wrote. He was the man that Paladin most admired.

Kirk: "Destruct sequence 1, password" Spock: "Destruct sequence 1, password" Scotty: "Really?" shakes head. Scotty: "Destruct sequence 1, Uppercase K, l, i, n, g, o, n, s, uppercase A, r,e, uppercase A, s, s, h, o, l, e, s, !"

@DMSProduktions

3 жыл бұрын

AYE!

@schoolhomevrtechnologyassi6286

3 жыл бұрын

@@DMSProduktions Hey you! (next world vr here)

@seanryan3020

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, why didn't they change the destruct codes once in a while or better yet, on a regular basis? That's just inviting trouble! Dark Helmet: "That's the kind of code an idiot would have on his luggage!" President Skroob: "Funny, that's the same code I have on my luggage!"

@zazaranger5

3 жыл бұрын

@@seanryan3020 President Skroob: Prepare Spaceball 1, and someone change the combination on my luggage!

@DMSProduktions

3 жыл бұрын

@@schoolhomevrtechnologyassi6286 You're selling WHAT now?

Stealing the Enterprise is the greatest scene in franchise history! Doogie howsers dad chasing them , the music! , My goodness that music! Kirk you do this you'll never sit in the captains chair again! Warp speed!

@Gabriel_Cook

3 жыл бұрын

James Horner did the best Star Trek music until Michael Giacchino came along.

@RIXRADvidz

3 жыл бұрын

the ''cough'' of the pursuing starship when ordered to 'warp speed' was the greatest kick in the nards to an asshole character Ever. buh bye Enterprise!

@xaenon

3 жыл бұрын

I wanted to point out that Kirk's taking command in TMP and again in TWOK were not 'stealing' the ship. In TMP he asked for and got permission from the Admiralty. In TWOK, he assumed command per his legal authority as a flag officer after consultation with Starfleet. In both instances with Starfleet authority. Therefore, the only instance of 'theft' was in TSFS.

@genemitthun1725

3 жыл бұрын

And one of his officers was robocops creator.

Robert April was also mentioned on Discovery when Saru was researching past starship captains.

I've actually read/heard a couple of variations of the "upside-down" story. Jefferies was given the crew complement and that it couldn't be shaped like a rocket or a saucer. He made several designs which kept being rejected and changed until this design. Since the original idea was for a part of the ship to go to the planet surface (in this case, the saucer section), he had it designed saucer down. However, when he showed the drawing to Roddenberry, he saw it upside-down from the original orientation and said that was perfect. Later, when a three-foot model was created and shown to the network execs, the model flipped over because it was top-heavy. They had to convince them of the correct orientation. Later still when the budget for the show was realized, Roddenberry found the landing and takeoff sequence were going to be too expensive to film, so he came up with the Transporter.

@thomasgile9141

3 жыл бұрын

Chris Talbot Jefferies referred to stemmed from the fact that Roddenberry actually liked the upside down orientation. "I held it up and Gene took it by the string and it immediately flopped upside down. He liked that better. I didn't. That was one of our biggest arguments which I won."

Interesting fact: "Robert April" was originally one of the names on Roddenberry's list of names for consideration to be the captain's name for the show before production. That's where it came from for the animated series.

@shanerasmussen5225

3 жыл бұрын

Another one was Dylan Hunt, which later got used for 2 non-Trek projects before a Trek concept he created in the 70s was reworked by his wife into Andromeda, and Kevin Sorbo became the third Roddenberry Dylan Hunt.

@morlockmeat

3 жыл бұрын

@@shanerasmussen5225 - Yes, and I certainly remember the Dylan Hunt character from 70's pilots Genesis 2, Strange New World and Planet Earth. Sounds like he used the same list of names for a number of his projects.

@shanerasmussen5225

3 жыл бұрын

@@morlockmeat Yeah he did, in fact Kirk's middle name, Tiberius, was the middle name of several of his characters.

@morlockmeat

3 жыл бұрын

@@shanerasmussen5225 - Boy, he sure liked the name Tiberius. 😁

@henrykujawa4427

2 жыл бұрын

@@morlockmeat The Emperor Tiberius, as played by Ernest Thesiger in the film "THE ROBE", had a great line, when he said to one of his advisors... "Don't you realize the real danger is his philosophy? If everyone started being nice to each other, the ENTIRE EMPIRE would collapse!" (Probably my favorite bit of the film.)

Just a couple of additional technical things about the bridge being skewed at an angle... First off, it wasn't just something that "could have been fixed with one phone call." There was a very specific reason that the turboshaft had to be at the exact rear of the bridge on the model: symmetry. For budgetary reasons, the production wanted the ability to film the Enterprise from only one side, and then flip the shots when they could get away with it, to "cheat" the ship traveling in a different direction to the camera. This allowed them to minimize the number of effects shots they had to produce as much as possible. Likewise, on the physical set of the bridge, not only did putting the turboshaft doors where they did keep William Shatner from having to turn all the way around, but it also created simpler framing. They wouldn't have to move the camera around as much, and could get away with building less of the bridge set. So whether the crew building the model knew what the crew building the set were doing or not, the outcome very likely would have been the same. They fixed this "problem" with the refit Enterprise for Star Trek: The Motion Picture by building TWO turboshafts onto the bridge. This allowed the bridge to now be rotated forward, and still kept the symmetry of the model for flexibility while filming.

@wihtgar

3 жыл бұрын

Also the port side of the model was unfinished to allow for wiring, so they literally couldn't film her from that side.

@gleggett3817

3 жыл бұрын

@@wihtgar as i recall the pilot model was OK but a subsequent rewire meant filming from one side only

@wihtgar

3 жыл бұрын

@@gleggett3817 That's entirely possible. My info is mostly based on the restoration of the ship in the Smithsonian, and my, admittedly very faulty, memory. :-)

@gleggett3817

3 жыл бұрын

@@wihtgar I'm working from my memory of a modelmaking magazine from the late 70s.

@jamesbrown4092

3 жыл бұрын

I always thought that the offset bridge was a bit silly from an engineering viewpoint. With the addition of a second shaft in TMP, that a possible retcon was that there always were two shafts, but only one went all the way up to the bridge. Alternately the starboard shaft had a horizontal shaft to connect it to the bridge doors, with the bump at the rear of the dome being an alcove so the cars could get by one another or storage for a spare car.

I knew about Robert April everybody knows about Robert April! Where’s my prize?

@jenniferschmitzer299

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe in a dusty spot in the purchasing area. Don’t worry, it’s the bestest place .. where you can knock off all the stationery and other stuff

@lynngreen7978

3 жыл бұрын

Diane Carey's Final Frontier is an incredible novel. I wish that kind of optimism was present in modern "Trek" outside of Continues and The Orville.

@47Str8

3 жыл бұрын

@@lynngreen7978 My favorite S.T. author by far!

@lynngreen7978

3 жыл бұрын

@@47Str8 John M Ford is my top pick, but she is definitely two or three, depending on how i feel about her and Peter David on a given day.

And as the enterprise plummeted to the planets surface, it's only thought was "oh no, not again"

Heck, I knew about Captain Robert April when I was 7 years old! That episode of the cartoon series was my introduction to Star Trek!!! It was the very first episode I ever saw, on a Saturday morning! Of course, the best-known episode is when Spock went back in time and saved his own life when he was 8. I think the producers knew what they were doing when they made the animated series, they introduced a whole bunch of kids to Trek, and we became life-long Trekkies!!!!

If that's not the same ship, then you're not the same person either. None of us are. All our cells swap out all new material every 10 years. :-/ Try again. hehe.

@ayrianarea7782

3 жыл бұрын

Every part was not replaced, the jeffries tubes in the 'neck' were retained throughout her run.

@Raptorrat

3 жыл бұрын

The question that is there beneath it is what "makes" the ship: is it the materials and construction, or what the ship represents. The soul, if you will.

If you read the book “Final Frontier” that you talked about Kirk’s father named the “Enterprise” because when Captain April took the ship out it had no name and they were calling her the “Empress”. The ship was also filled with the engineers who designed and built the ship and fresh from the shipyard with no markings of any kind. It was almost stolen on that first mission but by the Romulans.

@HandofOmega

3 жыл бұрын

It's been awhile, but I could also swear that Kirk's father George was not a first officer, but was merely a security officer. of course events conspire to place him in charge temporarily, but he felt way out of his depth in doing so!

@d.roselester2806

3 жыл бұрын

Hand -of-Omega it has been a while for me too in reading the book but I think that he was the first officer and George Kirk’s security buddy that Captain April kidnapped along with Kirk was the Security Officer

@d.roselester2806

3 жыл бұрын

Now I have to go reread the book again

@robertf3479

3 жыл бұрын

@@d.roselester2806 Me too. I think I still have my copy around here … somewhere.

@carlbruschnigjr1757

3 жыл бұрын

@@HandofOmega He was the Security Chief on the starbase. April appointed him as the exec on the ship.

Actually, Adam Spock offered to relinquish command of the Enterprise toin Kirk Star Trek II:The Wrath of Khan, after being informed about Khan commandeering the Reliant and attempting to steal the Genesis torpedo Kirk didn't steal the ship

@KEVMAN7987

3 жыл бұрын

"I have no ego to bruise." - Spock

@karlsmith2570

3 жыл бұрын

@@KEVMAN7987 Spock also told Kirk that he'd thought Kirk taking the promotion to Admiral was a waste of command material

@indiansfaninpa

3 жыл бұрын

That's right; this was a glaring mistake in this video. Kirk didn't ask to take command; Spock had to talk Kirk into it.

@christalbot210

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was surprised when he included _Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn_ in the number of instances that Kirk stole the Enterprise. You _might_ argue that he did so when he took the cadets on "a little training cruise" (that was unplanned), but he had the authority to do so, so it isn't really stealing. However, Spock had to insist that Kirk take command when their joy ride became an actual mission.

@karlsmith2570

3 жыл бұрын

@@christalbot210 exactly, considering that Kirk was the highest ranking officer onboard at the time

Didn’t Spock offer the Captaincy to Kirk in Wrath of Kahn?

@chadevans4922

3 жыл бұрын

No. Admiral Kirk asked Spock to take the ship to Regula One. Spock merely stated that if the ship was to go on actual duty, the senior officer on board must assume command. It was Kirk's duty to take command. It wasn't something Spock offered Kirk.

@joesoul2472

3 жыл бұрын

regardless, you can hardly call it "stealing" when it was literally a regulation

George Kirk was First Officer again in the novel 'Best Destiny' as well.

@krazyglue60

3 жыл бұрын

Eric Bowers Yes! And that’s a great story as well. I wished they had made THAT movie about Kirk’s coming of age!

@thomasgile9141

3 жыл бұрын

Eric Bowers Great Book.

Also the ship was originally gonna be called Intrepid Forgot to say Code 000 destruct 0 Forgot about the swimming pool and the Bowling Alley

@kenmazoch8499

3 жыл бұрын

actually, the first name was going to be yorktown, roddenberry changed it because enterprise seemed better. but there is a promo picture to demonstrate the concept with roddenberry dressed as capt. april on the bridge of the yorktown.

@shanerasmussen5225

3 жыл бұрын

Also didn't mention that in TAS the ship had a holodeck.

@arielfilmsinc1926

3 жыл бұрын

@@shanerasmussen5225 Known as the rec room

@762rk95tp

3 жыл бұрын

No. In original pitch to CBS in 1964 the ship was called USS Yorktown.

@mr.curtains364

3 жыл бұрын

I always wondered what happened to all the water in the swimming pool when the old E took damage and tilted to one side.

Matt Jefferies had parts of the Enterprise name after him-The Jefferies tubes allowing access to various engineering areas

@virginiaconnor8350

3 жыл бұрын

He was later mentioned on "Enterprise" too.

@FirstDan2000

Жыл бұрын

and the flooring in the gym.

Been watching all the TV shows plus all the movies for 51 years. Currently streaming all on CBS all access. I will probably die watching a Star Trek of some kind. Was lucky to have met William Shatner and James Doohan. It was an honor to do so.

So the Enterprise achieves consciousness and dies shortly afterwards? How very much of a Douglas Adams thing to have happen.

@DustyGamma

3 жыл бұрын

Oh goodness, I hadn't even thought of that!

5:46 Adam, you're turning to starboard, not port.

@gangfire5932

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed that too, _thank_ you!

I've been a trekker for almost all my life and I'm 58 now. Way over qualified for this video lol

Fun fact... The "Jefferies Tubes" that appear in just about every Star Trek incarnation was named for its creator...Matt Jefferies. Another fun fact (that has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand)...When Picard straightened his uniform, was referred on the set as the "Picard Maneuver"!

@carlbruschnigjr1757

3 жыл бұрын

Quite a few of the tubes also had "GNDN" stenciled on them. It meant "Goes Nowhere, Does Nothing".

@Kurwynd

3 жыл бұрын

According to Patrick Stewart the studio copyrighted the "Picard Maneuver" and that if he did that in real life he could be charged with copyright infringement. Immediately after saying that he performed the maneuver...

@seanryan3020

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

"turbolift centered, bridge points angled left" If that section seen (from outside) at the rear of the bridge dome is supposed to be the top of turbolift shaft, it's not a problem. It's wide enough to accommodate the lift doors being off-center inside with the centerline front-to-back axis running from Communications through the Captain's chair to the main viewscreen. In fact, it needs to be that wide to have space to shunt excess turbolift cars. Remember the episode "The Squire of Gothos" - After their second escape from Trelane, they beam up and take the turbolift to the bridge. The door slides open, several of them pile out of the lift car to their posts, the door closes, the door slides open again a second later and the rest of them emerge from the lift. The empty car must have been shunted aside to a holding spot - not enough time for it to have gone down past a junction and the next lift car to come up.

@robertballasty395

3 жыл бұрын

I must find my blueprints...

@PepperdotNet

3 жыл бұрын

Not only what you said, but the pilot episode clearly shows the bridge facing front when zoomed in from above.

@robertballasty395

3 жыл бұрын

@@PepperdotNet ...and there was some episode (maybe "Requiem For Methuselah"?) where foe shrunk the ship. Kirk staring into bridge through dome or viewscreen...

yes, 94 crewmembers died and Kirk was promoted to admiral. And bonus secret: Kirk was promoted because when he returned from his 5 year voyage, it was with the lowest casualties of the 5 year missions so far!!!

@studinthemaking

3 жыл бұрын

Lowest death rate. Break out the green whiskey.

@the_exegete

3 жыл бұрын

Join the service, they said. See the stars, they said.

There is no up or down in space, so technically the _Enterprise_ can be in any direction you want to think of it as. Although I do think that upside-down version looks cool.

@rivards1

3 жыл бұрын

It's direction is relative to its passengers.

We can all thank Desilu productions and Lucille Ball and her misunderstanding about what Star Trek was actually about for greenlighting such a groundbreaking show. Thanks Lucy 😙

Kirk in a yellow shirt, Spock in a blue shirt, McCoy in a blue shirt, and Ensign no name in a red shirt, are all beaming down to a random planet. Guess who doesn't survive the away mission?

@henrykujawa4427

2 жыл бұрын

I was just watching a 1st-season episode of "VOYAGE" from 1965. 4 crewmen with machine-guns broke into a warehouse, before it was over, the "grayshirt" got killed. It was in B&W. (heh)

@terrymitchell2461

2 жыл бұрын

@@henrykujawa4427 LMFAO. 😅

When Adam tried to show how the ship's bridge was angled to port, he sat facing starboard.

I thought the better version of the "Theseus" bit was at the beginning of "John Dies at the End." Axe beats mop.

The design of the USS Enterprise is simply one of those moments in art where the result surpassed even the artist's hopes. It's been redone several times and had its components moved about to construct different Federation ships, but that original design...the prominent saucer section leading, a smaller hull with two proud nacells trailing ... so beautiful, so iconic, so well known. Someday, when humans have the ability to actually build such a ship, we will. Someday, a day we will likely not live to see, the Enterprise will actually exist. It's too beloved not to.

My first time on your channel, I found it very entertaining and refreshing the way you presented the information. Way to go. New subscriber here. I've been a Star Trek fan since it first aired back in the 60s. Watched everything and attempted to read everything. Thanks for the entertainment.

They left the password as the default without changing it for 25 years. Kirk's crew was definitely 50s rock and roll kids in service. Picard had such an incredibly long and arcane password he had to record it in LastPass (code named Data) for later retrieval. That was of course hacked and used without his permission. Definitely a Boomer.

@diyimprover6887

3 жыл бұрын

Data had the best password in _Brothers_ . 1 - 7 - 3 - 4 - 6 - 7 - 3 - 2 - 1 - 4 - 7 - 6 - Charlie - 3 - 2 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 7 - 7 - 7 - 6 - 4 - 3 - Tango - 7 - 3 - 2 - Victor - 7 - 3 - 1 - 1 - 7 - 8 - 8 - 8 - 7 - 3 - 2 - 4 - 7 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 7 - 6 - 4 - 3 - 7 - 6 - Lock

@mac11380

3 жыл бұрын

They had to voice match also.

The Strange New World's series you guys referenced for the Enterprise achieving sentience are actually collections of fan fictions. Yeah...

@katakisLives

3 жыл бұрын

Well nothing is really known about strange new worlds right now other than the basic premise eh?

@LostMercenary99

3 жыл бұрын

@@katakisLives the book series. Not the new Pike one.

@katakisLives

3 жыл бұрын

@@LostMercenary99 Ah, okay! never heard of those books

@AT2Productions

3 жыл бұрын

@@katakisLives Neither has Kurtzman or anyone else in the CBS/Viacom/Paramount creative department currently ruining Trek.

@raymacdhomhnuill8018

3 жыл бұрын

Well actuall it has nothing to do with the Strange New Worlds fan serirs. The reference is from the comic book series Star Trek: Countdown. Star Trek: Countdown is a four-issue comic book prequel to the 2009 film Star Trek by IDW Publishing. It follows the characters of Spock and the Romulan Nero during the year 2387, detailing the events that cause them to travel to the 23rd century.

Great video! Keep up the great work, Trek Culture! Keeping me occupied while I'm stuck inside.

In all fairness, the Enterprise under Captain Kirk had a much better survival rate than some of the other ships of the day of the same class. USS Constellation - lost with all hands to the Doomsday Machine. USS Intrepid - lost with all hands to a space amoeba. USS Defiant - lost with all hands in or near Tholian Space in an inter-dimensional temporal rift. USS Farragut - lost half her crew to a gaseous entity, including Captain Garrovik. USS Excalibur - All crew aboard killed and left adrift when the M5 computer takes complete control of the Enterprise. USS Exeter - All hands, except Captain Tracy, lost due to a bacteriological disease. Ship was left in orbit, abandoned, of Omega IV. So, assuming a crew of 400 per vessel (the numbers fluctuate between 400 and 500, with an average of 428-430) , that means 2,200 men and women lost their lives who were not serving under Kirk, however, Kirk was present for the 200 or so killed by the gaseous cloud entity. Thats all I could find/remember.

@soaringeagle5418

3 жыл бұрын

USS - Grissom - all hands lost in Star Trek III The Search for Spock (including Kyle who mysteriously survived Khan capturing the Reliant in Star Trek II) when torpedoed by the Klingon Bird of Prey that would later become known as "Bounty" in Star Trek IV. USS Yorktown - all hands lost when all power, including life support power, was drained by the Whale probe in Star Trek IV the Voyage home. The makeshift solar sail failed but the ship was later salvaged, refit , and rechristened as Enterprise NCC-1701-A

@MrThomasCWest

3 жыл бұрын

@@soaringeagle5418 - I was just counting the Enterprise's sister ships before refit to show that serving under Kirk did have a higher survival rate of the time than serving on some of the other vessels of the same class during that 5 year period.

@RCAvhstape

3 жыл бұрын

Given the crazy danger and unpredictability of the mission Kirk and his command were sent on, the combat actions seen, often against unknown foes, the stunning rate of successfully negotiating their way out of trouble, and occasionally saving billions of lives in the process, losing a quarter of his crew over a five year span is probably coming out pretty far ahead.

You forgot the Captain's final authorisation code - "Code Zero. Zero. Zero. Destruct. Zero."

Uhhh.... You forgot the final command code, to start the 60 sec countdown... Code: 000 destruct 0 ✌️❤️

I personally like the angled bridge fact it makes it feel more real world

@seanryan3020

3 жыл бұрын

IKR? It's not like they're looking out windows, just the viewscreen, so there is really no reason why the crew can't just *feel* like they're facing forward!

That was fun and informative, thanks 👍🏻

I doubt the ship becoming self aware before it blows up is canon.

@headrockbeats

3 жыл бұрын

If it is (or... was? I don't know or care what's canon anymore), it's by far the stupidest thing in the canon I've heard so far. And I've heard some stupid shit. :P

@bazzokzwattom2655

3 жыл бұрын

You're correct. And, there are a few more things on the list that aren't canon.

@thfpt

3 жыл бұрын

Not if it's a Douglas Adams thing. Then it would be par for the course.

@HandofOmega

3 жыл бұрын

The closest I ever heard to that was Kirk thinking that he thoght that he MAYBE heard a note of sadness and the computers confirmation countdown in the novelization...

@joermnyc

3 жыл бұрын

On Discovery, a “short trek” had the ship become a self aware AI... of course it was 1000 years into the future (which was later explained because of the (spoiler) time jump between season 2 and 3.)

0:33 The original USS Enterprise NCC1701. No damned A, B, C, D, or E.

@daviddyer3543

3 жыл бұрын

Or F (like the one in Star Trek Online).

@spadesofpaintstudios1719

3 жыл бұрын

@@daviddyer3543 why would they need and F the E was constantly fixed with the latest and greatest

@SkyCharger001

3 жыл бұрын

@@spadesofpaintstudios1719 when the E started to get really long in the tooth they often found themselves spending 2 years on fixing her backbone for 1 week of service.

@spadesofpaintstudios1719

3 жыл бұрын

@@SkyCharger001 when their that far in the future it doesn’t take long. Hell data was said to have the ship another 100 years so tbh it’s not like it was hard modifying it as tech got greater. Not to mention the discovery went 1000 years in the future and it was simple modifying it although it was a millennia old ship

I knew about the turbo-lift thing from either reading "The Making of Star Trek" in 1968 or looking at the blueprints. But the bit about "the 2 departments didn't have ONE phone call" reminded me of something I dealt with myself. Some years ago, I built some 3D computer models for a low-budget direct-to-DVD film for Nick Cuti. He originally wanted 2 different people working on a pair of ships-- one of us to do the interiors, the other the exteriors. Which, to me, MADE NO SENSE. Fortunately, the other guy dropped out, and when it came time to built the exterior of this GIGANTIC alien ship, since I'd already built the interior, I just built the exterior shell RIGHT AROUND the already-existing interior corridors. SO IT ALL FIT! I'm proud of the work I did on that thing, even though Nick proved to be (frankly) not the most organized when it came to being in charge of such a project. At one point, he asked me to add an elevator, which would have been there to begin with, except he didn't supply me with the story until after the thing was built. Further, I supplied him with several short ANIMATIONS-- without being asked. Without them, there would not have been any shots of the ships except completely-STATIC ones. I swear, if he'd ASKED me to STORYBOARD the action of that film, I could have done a far-better job than he-- THE FILM'S DIRECTOR-- did.

Thank you! My favorite "heist" of all time is Kirk stealing the Enterprise, but didn't realize it was a "third" time. The MUSIC makes it awesome!

Who doesn't know about Captain April?!

@1monki

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but really, who doesn't know about Robert April?

@andrewmichaelscollectibles

3 жыл бұрын

Why. Must. Spock. Die! *AND WHY,* must. Spock. Die

@bemasaberwyn55

3 жыл бұрын

Numerous people who are unaware of early drafts

@1monki

3 жыл бұрын

@@bemasaberwyn55 It's just a joke.

@bemasaberwyn55

3 жыл бұрын

@@1monki I was replying to the OP who was actually being serious

Actually, with some tweeking, the upside down Enterprise looks like it could work. Shorten the neck a little and it looks remarkably like the Akira class.

Thanks for that informative video. I learned a lot and I like your presentation style too.

Don't know if this counts, but originally the Enterprise was built in space... Until Nero's time-travelling caused it to be built on the planet surface for Reasons (really just because JJ Abrams wanted an emotional side of a young Kirk watching it being built)! Which most likely means that Robert April also did not exist in the Kelvin timeline...

@exexpat11

3 жыл бұрын

Also it was built in San Francisco vice somewhere out in the middle of Iowa.

It was Trigger's broom in Only Fools and Horses not a Mop

@knightad33

3 жыл бұрын

They even show it in the clip! lol

@detectivesquirrel2621

3 жыл бұрын

@@knightad33 Yep

I would like to know how do you figure the Enterprise became a sentiment life-form or self-aware that's before its destruction can you please explain more on that thank you

@DMSProduktions

3 жыл бұрын

Genesis effect from the planet I am guessing. Still some residual energy & proto matter she may have come into contact with in orbit of Genesis!

@robertballasty395

3 жыл бұрын

@Tim Duggan One of the reference books (Mr Scott's Guide To The Enterprise, perhaps?), so next best thing to canon until contradicted on the same level or higher, written after ST:III, claimed that there were two options on the self-destruct commit-code. If I recall, "000Destruct0" was supposedly for use near other objects - lifepods? planets? other ships? - using smaller, distributed explosive charges, and jettisoning the antimatter first. "000Destruct1" was supposedly for use in clear open space - drop antimatter containment and blow the whole thing up at once.

@twentysevenlitres

3 жыл бұрын

@@robertballasty395 ahhh..... Is that how they explain away why the whole ship didn't vaporise from a deliberafe warp core overload on ST III. Sounds like one of those "explain after the error" scenarios, like the Kessel Run!

@raymacdhomhnuill8018

3 жыл бұрын

The reference comes from a comic book series called Star Trek: Countdown. Star Trek: Countdown is a four-issue comic book prequel to the 2009 film Star Trek by IDW Publishing. It follows the characters of Spock and the Romulan Nero during the year 2387, detailing the events that cause them to travel to the 23rd century.

@twentysevenlitres

3 жыл бұрын

@@raymacdhomhnuill8018 if the reference is placed in the JJ-Verse, then its not Prime Canon. Or are you saying that Prime Spock said it? It's still a JJ-verse book, even with Prime Spock.

Some of it I did not know or realize, thanks!

Great video, dude. I’d love to see a list on the various insignias and comm-badges.

DEFIANT! Come on ya got to do Starfleet's Hot Rod, Ol Gene would be turning over in his grave if he had saw that break all his design rules lol.

I love Adam and Bronzy .. But Bronzy is underrated I feel .. He's like Archer. Adam cleary is like picard

@Josh1Day

3 жыл бұрын

I really like Adam but I cannot stand Marcus

@theindianlad393

3 жыл бұрын

@@Josh1Day But you like Archer??

@willstikken5619

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated? As in he's even worse than anyone paying attention already believes?

@theindianlad393

3 жыл бұрын

@@willstikken5619 ohh please Archer is good

@willstikken5619

3 жыл бұрын

@@theindianlad393 Archer? eh. Bronzy aspires to the charisma of a wet sock and the knowledge level of a JJ Abrams mystery box plot.

Good job as always! Next videos: Enterprise-A, B, C, E, Defiant, DS9...

Lore Reloaded!!! I lived your destruct sequence bit!!!

On a side note to the Ship of Theseus at what point does a decades old band change from the original to a glorified cover band?

I have to say, from the point of view or realism and professionally, the Christopher Pike from the reboot ( which I just happened to hate ) was the best looking and most commanding captain ever in any movie or series. I wish they had made the movie about him, being the captain, but I guess they thought promoting a juvenile delinquent up through the ranks and blowing up Vulcan was a better idea. What idiots.

@thomasgile9141

3 жыл бұрын

justgivemethetruth Please. JJ’s Kirk was based off of Hon Solo ~ not Horatio Hornblower.

@justgivemethetruth

3 жыл бұрын

@@thomasgile9141 Maybe that is why he was so shitty.

DS9 is my favorite, so I’d love to see secrets of the Defiant next. Also the Reliant (Miranda class) from The Wrath Of Khan was supposed to be upside down as well. It was drawn with its engines on the top. But was inverted for the movie.

The person who doesn't deserves any awards is you for doing a video with a bunch of old trivia that any true Trekie has already known for years and years

Trigger's broom, not mop :)

Actually... Trigger’s “mop” is a broom

@davidatkinson47

3 жыл бұрын

I did notice that.

@Pugiron

3 жыл бұрын

That kind of broom is called a dust mop

@lukematthews1442

3 жыл бұрын

Pugiron that is not at all what a dust mop is. Trigger had a regular broom

This is really good and educational

Very interesting I did not know many of these fact, Like always Adam you gave a good blog AND YOUR TEAM made you look like you know so much. LETS give a LIVE LONG AND PROSPER.

About the bridge and which direction it faced: As far as the folks making the show were concerned, including Matt Jefferies (who, remember, designed the bloody ship), the bridge faced forward, and the turbolift kind of slid around behind Uhura's station on occasion (seriously, there are a few times when the motion indicator is going HORIZONTALLY before opening onto the bridge). Also, remember that famous shot of the ship banking towards the camera, zooming into the bridge? They ain't facing off to the side, and the turbolift doors don't even come close to lining up with that exterior tube. This subject has been a source of major debate, discussion, and sometimes jihad, for decades. So what about that tube on the back of the bridge dome? Putting aside that nothing contemporaneous with the production of the actually calls it out as the turboshaft (yes, it probably was intended as such, but nobody in the art department bothered to write it down, so it's not out of bounds to decide it's actually, say, the subspace radio transceiver array), one of the aspects of the model was that the port side (i.e., the left side, for you landlubbers) wasn't finished, and in fact had the wiring for the lights coming out. On those rare occasions where they wanted to show the port side of the ship, they had reversed decals made, so they could film it, flop the negative, and voila, you see the other side of the old girl (most noteworthy of these times was in "Mirror, Mirror", when our heroes jump dimensions; courtesy of unused footage from "Where No Man Has Gone Before"). However, for this to work, the ship has to be symetrical, and an offset tube on the bridge dome would give away the whole gag. Remember, they were shooting a sci-fi show in the mid 60's, not making a NASA documentary, a few of the details got shoved aside for expediency. As for some of your choices of references, seriously? One of the Gold Key comics? I wouldn't line a tribble cage with those. And the stories from the Strange New Worlds series were written by fans. It's a showcase for fan fiction. I submitted a couple myself, that didn't make it (you would've loved my Capt April story; the Enterprise meets the Borg on her maiden flight, only to have the whole thing covered up by Section 31 at the end).

@jeffnelson1672

3 жыл бұрын

"Wouldn't line a tribble cage with those"? And you, sir, couldn't sell fake patents to your mother!

@CaptRobertApril

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeffnelson1672 Why would I induce my mother to purchase falsified patents?

@HandofOmega

3 жыл бұрын

I remember always wondering what the word "nacelles" actually meant, if that was a real word...!

@CaptRobertApril

3 жыл бұрын

@@HandofOmega It's a French word for an attached pod, like the engines on a jetliner.

@jb888888888

3 жыл бұрын

@@HandofOmega They keep talking about "port nacelle" and I always heard it as "Portna cell." For some reason nothing bad ever happens to the starboard nacelle.

"Somewhere in canon Kirk was relieved by Captain Zarlo" Well.... no. Canon is what appears on screen. Most of what appears on screen, anyway. (They're selective with what they treat as canon from TAS) Next level below that is the studio-published reference stuff - The Making of Star Trek, Mr Scott's Guide, The Encyclopedia, Next Gen Tech Manual - and the novelizations from movie script drafts. Those are pretty good footing until they have some important reason to contradict it on screen. Next level below that is the licensed novels and comic books. Most of them. They're not bothered by ignoring any of that. Definitely not canon, studio not bound by them, but usually written in close conformance to canon and the studio's writers guide as a starting point, and sometimes things can end up canon or close to it. Admiral Dunsel, errr.... Rasmussen is a good example. Somewhere some unknown number of levels below that, we have Gold Key Comics. They hold a special place in my heart. But if canon is the Federation, Gold Key is in the Delta Quadrant. Captain Zarlo is the proto-Jellico.

@shanerasmussen5225

3 жыл бұрын

Some of the TAS stuff isn't out of canon because of selectivity but because of legal situations, like the episode The Soft Weapon, adapted from Larry Niven's Known Space, using his creations the Kzinti (and pretty much everything else in the episode even the name and dialog) and was a direct conversion of his short story of the same name. Niven was so immensely disappointed in how the Kzinti looked that he has forever since refused to allow their use in Trek products.

@willb5571

3 жыл бұрын

@@shanerasmussen5225 when I saw that episode I was delighted and enjoyed it🤗

@shanerasmussen5225

3 жыл бұрын

@@willb5571 I liked it fine too, just relating what Niven himself said on the matter. He has talked about it many times. He even issued a cease and desist to a fan on deviantart doing Kzinti Trek fan art, not trying to sell it or anything, just making pics to enjoy, and Niven sent out a cease and desist.

Didn't notice this mentioned- In one of the many 'Definitive Tome of All Things Trek,' there is an entry for Captain April. Big deal, yeah? Except there's a PHOTO of April in the entry! It is, of course, Gene Roddenberry, sitting at one of the science stations, sporting a classic cardigan sweater, being a favorite item of clothing of April's. I learned about the sweater in either the Star Trek novel 'Final Frontier,' or 'Best Destiny,' both by Diane Carey

Yes, I read about him in the old book The Making of Star Trek. Very interesting. And he was in the animated The Counter-clock Incident. Good stuff.

The bridge is not offset. There is actually space between the bridge and, well, space. It's filled with life support systems, etc. The turbolift pod slides starboard, within this internal space, then back, into that tubular outcropping, and only then down.

@exexpat11

3 жыл бұрын

Also later that was an airlock to space.

@williamneuman7783

3 жыл бұрын

Check the blueprints. The bridge is offset.

@davidmetlesits972

3 жыл бұрын

@@williamneuman7783 The blueprints are not official. Actually, they started this thing that the bridge is offset. Also, theck both the original and the remastered versions of The Cage. In the zoom-in shot of the bridge fome, you can clearly see the Captain's chair facing forwards

I don't wanna be "That Guy", but most of this is non-canon. It's basically professionally written fanfic.

@ho2zoo

3 жыл бұрын

That's what I was going to say. Robert April as the first captain was in the animated series, which was sanctioned by Paramount AND broadcast, but a lot of that stuff from short stories and comic books just doesn't work for me. Don't get me started on the J.J. Abrams junk!

@rodx5571

3 жыл бұрын

@@ho2zoo Unfortunately everything past The original series isnt canon. Next generation isnt canon based upon the "Zephram Cochran Paradox". In the movie he is from earth, in Enterprise he is from earth. in the original series he is from Alpha Centauri. In the episode Metamorphosis where they find a regenerated Cochran. when kirk recognizes him he states he is from alpha centauri.

@philiptite1082

3 жыл бұрын

@@rodx5571 Nice observation. I hadn't noticed that lack of continuity. I looked it up and Memory Alpha offers a logical solution; i.e., that he moved to Alpha Centauri later in life and from there made his famous "exit". So when he says he's from Alpha Centauri, it refers to his last residence.

@rodx5571

3 жыл бұрын

@@philiptite1082 Continuity is broken from TOS to the rest of Trek. I watch it however i view it as them ringing the register, not necessarily adding to the story. I have another fun fact, remember the movies "The Purge"? I was watching some TOS and stumbled across "Return of the Archons", If you watch it, "The Festival" is just like The purge movies. Slight twist. but still the network copy machine at work.

@philiptite1082

3 жыл бұрын

@@rodx5571 I have not watch the Purge, but I love that you picked up that intertextual link. "Return of the Archons" is a fun episode. I was re-watching Casablanca last week and I immediately realized that the TNG episode "We'll Always Have Paris" is a spin on that very film - beyond even the title, the plot and character roles follow Casablanca. It can be fun to see where the inspiration and ideas come from. As for continuity, it is flexible at points, especially when a series is still working things out (e.g., the idea of the UFP, how warp drive worked, and the relationship of humans to Vulcans were all being worked out in that first season). Sometimes we find blatant breaches (and we all know what happens when you have a hull breach lol). I'm watching Discovery for the first time now (please no spoilers, I'm still in season 1) and the tech level is insanely advanced for a prequel (it's more in line with ten to twenty years after the TNG movies). Occasionally continuity needs to be retconned or ignored (e.g., the Eugenics Wars of the 1990s; in comics it arises all the time when historical markers need a reset to keep the characters and stories viable). And there are times when continuity is openly violated and ignored, such as with the Kelvin timeline (seriously, how are these people all together at the academy when in TOS and the films they are at different stages in their career and staggered in age?) -- these are the most frustrating for fans (at least for me). Although mistakes sometimes happen, and I assume the Cochran planet of origin was just such a slip in the film, we can work out such glitches and bring them back into continuity. The idea that Cochran was born and raised on Earth but retired to Alpha Centauri and, in TOS, identified himself with his new planet as home, all makes sense. Anyway, I'll need to check out the Purge. It will be cool to see that parallel with "Return of the Archons". Thanks again.

In The Star Trek Compendium, the Enterprise was originally called Yorktown, with captain Robert Winter, then the name was changed to Robert April and to Christopher Pike....

@xaenon

3 жыл бұрын

In 'First Adventure', it is claimed that when construction began, the new ship (not yet named, constructed in secret) was NCC-1700. During construction, however, there were numerous advances that were fitted to the new ship, and its number was changed to 1701. Since the ship was not officially named until the end of the novel (George proposed it early on, noting the famous WWII aircraft carrier, the first nuclear carrier, the space shuttle, and an early commercial spacecraft by the name Enterprise) it's reasonable to assume the author was implying the ship's original name was to have been CONSTITUTION.

@Ozzy_2014

3 жыл бұрын

@@xaenon the ship was called The Empress by Capt Robert April . Not an official name. Not even ready for the shakedown portion. Just partially completed crew quarters and engineering sections and minimal life support systems. Simple fact no other ship could get through the Ion storm to rescue the stranded ship before life support failed. As for theseus...no. The NCC 1701 stardrive survived. They replaced the whole thing with another drive. Go read The Department of Temporal Investigations hidden history book. There were secret plans made in creating Time Ship 01 & 02. Illegal things at that. Also there were parts of the frame that were never replaced. Too deep and integral to the ship to be touched with out building an entiirely new ship

@mrScififan2

3 жыл бұрын

@@xaenon I FORGOT THAT! thank you for reminding me; i read that book eons ago when the world was fresh and new!

You missed one, the saucer section was designed to separate from the central dorsal, those yellow triangular things on the underside of the hull are landing gear. The saucer was supposed to land on planets for investigation, however the special effects were too expensive to do it, as was building a stand alone shuttle hence the transporter was born.

Yes, I knew about Robert April. Yes, I want my damn props lol kidding. Not about knowing about him, but about the prize. Pike was second, Kirk was third.

@AlexandarHullRichter

3 жыл бұрын

You want the prize? You mean the Enter-prise?

Sentient? Contemplating it's life and demise in a few brief moments before destruction? Sounds a little like a whale and bowl of petunias I heard of once.

@jenniferschmitzer299

3 жыл бұрын

Agrajag has re-entered the chat..

The worst thing that could ever happen to a Federation Starship during a shakedown: Being the only ship in the quadrant during an emergency.

Thanks! Fun video! But did you include apocryphal data? 🤔

Don't be absurd. Robert April was not the original captain of the Enterprise: he lacks a hard "k" sound. KirK and Spock, PiKard and Riker, SisKo and Daks or Kira (you figure it out: I gave up years ago), Katherine Janeway and ChiKote. Jonathan BecKett Archer (stretching, I'll admit, but he was played by Bakila), Lorka and Mikael Burnham. PiKard again with Kris Rios. Pike goes in there somewhere. Kirk, of course, also had his worthy adversaries and lovers Kor, Koloth, and Kang. Then there's the movies, which gave us Kirk and Decker, put KlarK and CheKov on the Reliant, which was then stolen by Khan, who went after the Regulus station commanded by Karol MarKus and Peter Kirk. HiKaru Sulu got a command of his own. No "k", no Kommand. It's that simple.

@bazzokzwattom2655

3 жыл бұрын

But there's also the middle initial "T"! According to the Star Trek Encyclopedia, he's Robert T. April. You've also got James T. Kirk, S'chn T. Spock and William T. Riker. So there! 😜

@josephwisniewski3673

3 жыл бұрын

Bazzok Zwattom - What "t"? It's actually James R. Kirk. Someone screwed up in the second episode where they mentioned his middle initial, and it stuck. Same thing happened to Robert M. April. Then there's Benjamin J. Sisko and Jean Luc Picard.

@josephwisniewski3673

3 жыл бұрын

Bazzok Zwattom - Now, there is a rumor that April's middle name was supposed to be Mankeebuoy, which does have a "k", but I've always been suspicious of this.

@bazzokzwattom2655

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephwisniewski3673 Naw, the James R. Kirk was just a private joke: Kirk always liked to dress up as a pirate for Halloween. When Mitchell created the tombstone, the R. was short for "Aarrrrrrr!" That's the true story, matey! 😁

I'd heard that the "upside-down" moment was a magazine or newspaper printing a photo that way, and the Great Bird of the Galaxy giving his approval.

Gene Roddenberry created Robert T. April in the tv series "Have Gun Will Travel" John Larch played him as a prison chaplin the first time and Larry J. Blake played him the second time where he dies after helping to carry a wounded man down a mountain side. The character "Paladin" said he was the finest man he had ever known. Mr. Roddenberry said He had been Paladins commanding officer in the civil war, when asked at a show back in 79'.

"Will i ever run out of things to watch" Not so long as the (Culture) guys keep creating

@johnbockelie3899

3 жыл бұрын

I saw on KZread a while ago that there was a fan made movie about Robert April's first mission on the Enterprise in 2245.

@johnbockelie3899

3 жыл бұрын

The destruct sequence in Star Trek 3, at the last part of the count down, ( listen closely) 5,4,3,2,1,..She sounds like Revenge, her tone sounds like a bitch slap. The the explosion !!. I notice it every time.

Sorry, stop counting comic books and stories as canon.

@SweetBabyGray

3 жыл бұрын

"I don't like it so it's not canon"

@andrewmarrington5654

3 жыл бұрын

@@SweetBabyGray it was Paramount policy on canon at one point.

@raymacdhomhnuill8018

3 жыл бұрын

Paramount considers them canon, and they own the rights.

@brianjlevine

3 жыл бұрын

@@raymacdhomhnuill8018 Paramount though JJ was the right guy to reboot Star Trek. What do they know? 😉

Slight correction, Adam. In Star Trek 2, Kirk doesn't want to take command of the Enterprise. He says at the start of the movie that "galloping around the cosmos is a game for the young". After Kirk gets the message from Dr Marcus, he approaches Spock about what's going on. Spock offers to relinquish control to Kirk, which sets up a fairly lengthy discussion between the two. Spock: Of course, the ship is yours. Kirk: No, that won't be necessary. Just get me to Regula 1. Spock: As a teacher, on a training mission, I am content to command the Enterprise. If we were to go on actual duty, it's clear the senior officer on board must assume command. Etc etc etc

As a Brooklynite, I must say that I thoroughly appreciate your T-shirt.

Casualties aside, the Enterprise seems to be one of the few ships in it's class to actually complete it's five year mission without being destroyed outright or having it's entire crew killed.

I DIDN'T know about Captain April. Fascinating.

I have been a fan of Star Trek since it began back in the 60s. Sometime ini the 70s I bought an officially licensed floor plan of the Enterprise and I was amazed at all the amenities onboard the ship that nobody seems to talk about, i.e. swimming pool, theater, bowling alley, arboretum, gymnasium etc. Even with the addition of Holodecks, Im surprised they never really explored these types of settings, TNG did some in like an arboretum

In the early 1970s Bjo Trimble published the Star Trek Concordance, filled with diagrams showing everything from the official Federation lettering style (in both English and Vulcan variants) to patterns for the uniforms to blueprints for parts of the ship. When you look at that turbolift on the bridge, there's a panel to the left of the door with a diagram of the Enterprise (probably says "you are here" somewhere on it). According to the Concordance, behind that panel is...a bathroom! That's presumably so people who need it can "go where no man has gone before".