Nice, calm, clear, concise, and informative video on the Stanley No. 78. Thanks for posting this. I'm so glad I happened upon you and your videos. Thanks again, and keep up the good work! Kenny

@mitchwoodwork

8 жыл бұрын

+Kenneth T. Bruseth Cheers Kenny

I just found this video. That's the first hand plane I purchased at a flea market around 15 years ago, but haven't used it much. You have inspired me to tune it up and use it more... Thanks from Parma, Ohio.

@mitchwoodwork

8 жыл бұрын

+TheRaven0811 Terrific, I hope you get plenty of enjoyment from it. Thanks for watching

The only video I've seen that clearly and comprehensively explains this plane. A real treat and great help. Thanks.

@mitchwoodwork

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure

I have a cheap copy of this plane I bought new for about $12.00 American. The castings were rough but nothing a bit of patience and elbow grease couldn't remedy. It cuts very well and I can only imagine how much better the original would be. I love planes and appreciate the time you spend explaining their use and adjustment. God bless.

@mitchwoodwork

9 жыл бұрын

mwilson70201 Thank you, that's much appreciated. Happy woodworking, Mitch

I just bought a Wards-brand copy of this very rebate plane at an antique shop. It has no adjustment lever, but otherwise it is pretty much identical. I'm very glad you did this video long before I found my plane. Now I know about the bull-nose set-up too. Thank you.

@mitchwoodwork

7 жыл бұрын

Cheers Daniel. The 78 is a good plane to have in the shop. Keep it sharp and the iron set to cut, then when you need it you only have to set the fence and depth stop

Probably the best intro music on YT! 👍👍👍

Enjoying your anatomy of various planes.....very informative.

@mitchwoodwork

9 жыл бұрын

Jim Pell Cheers Jim, appreciated.

Clear explanation! Many thanks from Manila, Philippines.

@mitchwoodwork

8 жыл бұрын

+Rommel Tiongco Cheers, thank you

Thanks for the excellent tutorial. Just yesterday I happened on one that was brand spanking new still in the box. Naturally, I couldn't resist buying it, especially for $30.

@mitchwoodwork

6 жыл бұрын

Hardnox wow, sounds like a bargain

This is a great explanation, thanks for uploading your videos. Keep it up!

@mitchwoodwork

9 жыл бұрын

Chris H. Thank you Chris. Happy woodworking, Mitch

Nice job. Thank you.

I just received this plane in the mail and found your video very helpful. Thanks!

@mitchwoodwork

9 жыл бұрын

Wes Jones Thanks Wes, that's pleasing to know. Happy woodworking, Mitch

I just picked one of these up at my local antique store. It's a beauty! Thanks for the video for alignment tips and use!

@mitchwoodwork

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I'm sure you'll find the plane useful.

@Hellsong89

7 жыл бұрын

I just got one from some old dusty tool box, at the friends companys heat utility room i was visiting with him (must been sitting there ages). Missing couple bits and peaces, but i bet i will get it planing again real soon and bloody hell i have been looking one like this long time now. Much less dusty compared to router and easier to handle when doing strange cuts. Thanks for the video and explaining how to use this... not that i most likely will use it a it supposed to be used XD

@carpentryfirst3048

2 жыл бұрын

Just got one from a yard sale for 15$! Im late to thebparty arent I....

Very clear and usefull to me. Thumbs up for this video and many thanks to the author!

@mitchwoodwork

6 жыл бұрын

Nik Mark Cheers

Thank you for posting this, a great help. Just bought a new Record Irwin 778, and now I can use it...

@mitchwoodwork

7 жыл бұрын

Cheers Stephen. Hope you'll get plenty of use out of it.

Hi. The blade if you look at it carefully, it has a relief edge this is for a purpose. The blade is designed to protrude ever so slightly out side of face. This cuts the wall of the rebate. Cheers Robin Alexander

@mitchwoodwork

Жыл бұрын

It acts like a scraper, so any more than a gnats will bog the plane down.

@robinalexander5772

Жыл бұрын

@@mitchwoodwork you would think so, but it doesn't. My 78 is 120 years old, my user, hammer adjustment for blade. Again like all cool woodworking tools you need to play with it to get use to gauging the right amount of hang out. Just shy of a mill. If you set plane blade up as I have wrote you will see the side tip protruding just a fraction more, this makes the rebate you are planning more precise. Cheers Robin Alexander

@mitchwoodwork

Жыл бұрын

I shall try that out then. Cheers

Just got one from EBay. Thanks for the great information.

@mitchwoodwork

2 жыл бұрын

No problem 👍

thanks mitch, I have one and didn't know how to use it properly. . great info arnold

@mitchwoodwork

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Arnold, hope you get yours going

Good job, Thank you for your information.

Excellent video. Thank you Sir!

@mitchwoodwork

8 жыл бұрын

+321berber Many thanks. Happy woodworking, Mitch

thanks for sharing Mitch

@mitchwoodwork

9 жыл бұрын

Eddy Flynn Thanks Eddy

Very informative. Thanks.

@mitchwoodwork

6 жыл бұрын

Cheers

Great informational video, I just purchased one just like that, tried to get a good deal, but good deals were fixer upper plane, parts only type. I finally got me one in excellent shape. I'm currently trying to put together a hands only ( no power tools ) carpenters tool box. ( I was glad to been given my wife's grandfather tool box, a real gem, but tools have been gone out of it for years,bummer!) I had some I have used over the years but now I am getting into it more, I guess I'm thinking of my own grandchildren. I'm am also setting up a small blacksmith shop, as I have done a little of that years ago. I am preparing these two trades as I am wanting to learn more about both, and hope to be able to retire in 5 more years ( 67 then). But with that being said, tools are getting harder to find and at decent prices! You guys provide us with such good advice on the technics of using these tools and is deeply appreciated. Oh yeah, I must be watching to many videos as the wife had to take me to the doctor yesterday as I had a horrible pain in my back and hip! Could not stand up or walk without a cane, found out I have an inflamed sciatica nerve. Now I got a bum left shoulder and back! He put me on meds and told me to watch my favorite channels on youtube, well I added that last part. LOL. Well enough about me, I hope all is well with you, Take care!

@mitchwoodwork

9 жыл бұрын

***** Glad to be of service. My back is just recovering, and I can certainly recommend lying on it and watching videos! Good luck with the retirement plan - sounds great.

@OldSneelock

8 жыл бұрын

Hi Luther. I just stumbled onto your comment and noticed you had, as of a year ago, a sciatic nerve issue. Don't know if your all better or not but I'll throw this out anyway. I have two blown discs in my back and lost the feeling in both legs except for a pain like someone was driving a nail into each kneecap. After years of doctors I my family doc got me a thing called a Tens Unit. It was a little battery operated thing that had two contracts that glued on my leg and the middle of my back. It had a little dial and I would turn it up until I could feel the current and then back it off just slightly. The pain would be gone! I wore it for about a month and a half and the pain stayed gone after that. I still can screw up my back and do every once in a while but I never get that particular pain at all. I went 6 years before I found that out and wished I had known a lot sooner.

@lutherhgrindstonemtn3456

8 жыл бұрын

Uncle SNEED!! This is a coincidence!! I have not been on here for a good while and thought I would check and low and behold, There you are! So glad to see you are hanging in there and boy howdy have I got alot of catching up to do! You got 10 quadzillon + videos out now! That is great! Yes I do have one of those 10s units and yes it does help. Got old Arthur in most all the joints, Hey enuff about me, just glad to hear from you, will catch up one day, maybe have to retire first! LOL! Well you take care and be sure to take care of my Cuz Lewis, He is old faithful ( Dont mean age ) as he writes me every week to check on me. Take Care Uncle Sneed and God bless you and Auntie! C Ya!

@OldSneelock

8 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear you're still upright and sucking air Luther. Lewie is on the channel nearly every day. I think he is doing well but he's not one to complain. Retirement is a blessing for sure.

Thanks for the detailed explanation. No other videos I've seen on the 78 explained what the forward blade position was good for. Curiosity satisfied.

@mitchwoodwork

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Allan

Thank you.

A very good treatment on the function and use of this handy plane.

@mitchwoodwork

11 ай бұрын

Thank you

@lindsaybrown7357

11 ай бұрын

@mitchwoodwork Just bought one at an antiques and collectables market, still in the box, looked unused. Seller said it would make a nice display piece. I said "no way, this tool will get used as it was intended"!

@mitchwoodwork

11 ай бұрын

Good, I don't understand just collecting tools to look at. Hope you get plenty of use from it.

@lindsaybrown7357

11 ай бұрын

@mitchwoodwork I last used this type of plane in woodwork at tech some 45 years ago (to show my age). Now I'm close to retirement, I can get reacquainted. I checked out a few youtube videos as a refresher, and yours was the most useful.

Excellent! Many thanks

@mitchwoodwork

8 жыл бұрын

Cheers Carlo

Just bought a 78 at a car boot for £10, and I now know that the fence and nicker cutter are missing thanks to watching your video. I've found a fence on Amazon for the 78 for £17 but as ill be mainly using it to trim up tenons ill leave it. Good informative vid.

@mitchwoodwork

6 жыл бұрын

Cheers. You can always rig up a fence should you need one.

Thank you Mitch.

@mitchwoodwork

6 жыл бұрын

Robert Brunston Cheers Robert

Thanks for sharing.

@mitchwoodwork

9 жыл бұрын

John McKee Cheers John

Yes, very useful. Thanks

Thanks, helpful for a while now I've been wondering how that front mount is used. This explains it.

@mitchwoodwork

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Anton

wow...didnt know it did all that, think I need a step by step 4 week course....

Nice explanation. I have one but it is missing the depth guide, the fence, and the hardware to install them.

@mitchwoodwork

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers. Maybe you can fashion some replacements now you know what they are for

Many thanks, was wracking my brain trying to figure out what the corner cutter was!

@mitchwoodwork

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers. Yep, it's one of those things that once you find out it seems obvious, but until then it's a mystery.

@boatfaceslim9005

3 ай бұрын

The nicker is for use when cutting across the grain.

Thanks for that explanation. The plane I inherited has the fence attached by 2 pins (not 1), and the small cutter is circular with a short flat section (not 3 stubs) . The plane also has a personalised "mod" in the form of a hand knob secured in the front blade slot - it makes two handed use much easier.

@mitchwoodwork

9 жыл бұрын

David R Cheers David. I like the idea of the front knob - any objection to me possibly doing a video on adding one of those? Happy woodworking, Mitch

@davidr1155

9 жыл бұрын

No problem Mitch - let me know if you want photos

@mitchwoodwork

9 жыл бұрын

David R Thanks David, the pics make it all very clear. I think others will appreciate this idea. Best wishes for the new year, Mitch

Its excellent tool. Got it from workplace, from some old tool box that had been sitting there for decades by bloke who is probably at this point dead and buried, had just left to tool box there when retiring and it was not even tools of the trade, so current workers said i could have it. Only missing the fence and now i see i'm missing the thumb screw of the debt stop. For some reason the tool box had 3 screws for the blade and i was about to use some force to screw that on the debt stop screw hole, but stopped to look what ever that actually belong there, since it didnt screw easily by hand like others. Gotta search right replacement it seems, or manufacture one, though not that i even use the debt gauge much, just like to prevent it going missing.

@mitchwoodwork

3 жыл бұрын

Nice find

excellent, thanks.

@mitchwoodwork

8 жыл бұрын

Cheers. Happy woodworking, Mitch

i have a 78 i rarely use as i find blade adjustment clumsy and the blade will slide up the plate on hard woods meaning constant adjustment. if i can i always cut my rebates on the jointer.

@mitchwoodwork

8 жыл бұрын

+Tayler Made Blade adjustment is quite coarse. I like mine though, and think it's worth having in the arsenal. Of course, where your jointer can cope, there's nowt wrong with that.

Just bought my 4th #78. The first one only had the casting, a beading cutter, the knicker, and the blade clamp. The second had the blade and the clamp. The third had just the guide and rod. The fourth had all the pieces and cost less than any of the others. I must be doing something wrong? Actually I think I'm finally getting it right. :-)

@mitchwoodwork

8 жыл бұрын

Haha! I know the temptation to pick up tools when one sees them. Been there and learnt the lesson!

@OldSneelock

8 жыл бұрын

I was in the early acquisition stage 10 years ago. Tools were kind of scarce. Now with the Ebay advertising and PBS creating popularity. They are coming out of the wood work. Pun intended.

@OldSneelock

6 жыл бұрын

Back after a year. I finally fixed up one of the other rebate planes. Turns out I have three different brands. Stanley, Millers Falls, and Sargent. The Stanley was the one with almost all the parts. Looking at yours I'm discovering that the depth stop isn't held with a flat bladed thumb screw. It is held with a round headed knurled screwcwith a straight bit slot. Chris Anderson is casting more depth stops and I'm going to make some screws to fit. Now it will be a lot easier. Thanks Mitch.

@OldSneelock

6 жыл бұрын

If I can ask a favor could you please measure the head diameter and thickness on the depth stop mounting screw on your 78? I know what the thread is but it would be a big help to make the head the right size too. Thanks Mitch.

Mitch one of the reasons I don't use my 78 as much as I could is workholding when using this plane. I don't have a tail vice so do you have any ideas about how to hold small pieces when using this sort of plane? I make small boxes and the small box ends are difficult to hold when using this type of plane. Typically a box might have ends measuring 3 inches by 2 inches. Not much surface area to clamp, and if you don't get much purchase on it the workpiece moves resulting in a ruined rebate. Added to that, you are cutting across the grain for the box ends so you need a very secure way of holding it down.

@mitchwoodwork

8 жыл бұрын

+Roonza Car I hope I understand what your trying to do, if not then email me a photo. I would lay the box end flat on the bench, reference edge aligned with bench edge, then surround the other edges with pieces of sheet ply (thinner than the box end) clamped to the bench. You should be able to prevent the box end from moving that way. If you make many the same size, prepare a snug fit cutout in a piece of ply.

@roonzacar7276

8 жыл бұрын

+Mitch Peacock - WOmadeOD Thanks Mitch I think you've understood my issue. With small box ends it can be difficult to clamp them down without the clamps getting in the way of the rebate plane. The smallness of the box ends make them difficult to clamp down, I will give your method a go and see if the workpiece remains secure. Thanks again for your prompt reply.

I'm wondering if you can use one similar to a shoulder plane. Of course it is a bit wider and the blade is at a higher angle, but still, the blade is right on the edge. Guess you would just have to try it.

@mitchwoodwork

9 жыл бұрын

You can, but only the one side is a good reference face. Happy woodworking, Mitch

Great video, without the fence can you use it as a shoulder plane?

@mitchwoodwork

9 жыл бұрын

Roonza Car Thanks! You can, to a certain extent, but the sides are not as smooth as a dedicated shoulder plane, especially the 'open' side, so it can scratch the surface it references off. Cheers, Mitch

@roonzacar7276

9 жыл бұрын

Ok thanks Mitch.

Helpful. Mine is another brand, but the general anatomy is the same. Bought it 30 years ago. Used it once.😁

@mitchwoodwork

4 жыл бұрын

Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to get that plane out this weekend and run some rebates ;-)

@stephenrichie4646

4 жыл бұрын

Aah Woodwork with Mitch Peacock : Actually, that’s a damn fine idea. I think I will!

Dear Mitch, Any idea what the vertical hole in the fence is for? I wondered if it was to attach a handle to keep the fence horizontal? It's not like the 778 which has two rods.

@mitchwoodwork

4 жыл бұрын

That's a great question. Sadly I don't know. Possibly just a flourish by the designer, maybe an aid when machining, or simply to hang it up when not in use ;-)

@alangknowles

4 жыл бұрын

@@mitchwoodwork I now think the latter is most likely. Both Stanley and Record planes have the feature.

@mitchwoodwork

4 жыл бұрын

@@alangknowles Record probably copied it without knowing what it was for 🤣

Nice ..... thanks again.

@mitchwoodwork

9 жыл бұрын

TheJimsock Appreciated, Mitch

So can rebate plane be used as a jointer as well? or is it too short in length to joint?

@mitchwoodwork

7 жыл бұрын

I'd say it was fine for lengths up to about 18". Generally the longer the plane the better jointer it makes.

@ayushg2271

7 жыл бұрын

Mitch Peacock - WOmadeOD sounds perfect. for longer pieces i use a jig with my table saw. i'd rather use a hand tool for smaller pieces. Thanks

Mitch, thank you for this explanation of the 78. I kind of got the impression your not really a big fan of this version and wonder what plane do you think is a more precise unit to perform the rebate action?

@mitchwoodwork

8 жыл бұрын

+Pat M Oh, it's not that bad! I do prefer my wooden rebate plane though. The #45 is quite good too, with a better fence than the #78.

@Belg1970

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks appreciate the extra info

@kaaona123

2 жыл бұрын

@@mitchwoodwork Hi Mitch, I know this video was years ago, but I'm realizing that none of the no 78's on the market have square fences. I know you refurbish planes very well so I was gonna ask you whether you know how to square the fences of these planes to their soles?

@mitchwoodwork

2 жыл бұрын

@@kaaona123 it's not something I do, relying on even shavings being taken and squareness of the sole to the side. Using the fence just to start a rebate at the right position. I'm not sure the fence is really deep enough to hold the plane square, but you could file it if you want to try. If you do, let me know how you get on.

@kaaona123

2 жыл бұрын

@@mitchwoodwork Yeah I tried to share the pics of the jig I came up with but I guess comments with dropbox links get instantly removed

hi mitch, its me arnold again, I just received a #78 rebate plane from amozon but all I got was the body of the plane, I need all the res of the parts the irons , cap irons fence. I only paid 19 dollars for it but didnt relalise everything was missing. I hope you have some idea how to get the rest of the parts please help I have tears in my eyes

@mitchwoodwork

8 жыл бұрын

Arnold Espenberg Oh dear, that's unfortunate. I can only suggest searching eBay, craigslist, etc. I believe parts are still available from Stanley, but you'll end up paying quite a bit I suspect. If you know a metal worker, they could probably make a fence in very little time, and adapt a donor blade to fit, even make a lever cap.

Good day MIW, I just bought my 2nd 2nd-hand Stanley 78 and I am curious how old they are. Is there a way to date these? One of them has "X20" just behind the front part. The other has "01" on that spot. The "01" looks the oldest. But, as it has almost never been used, looks great! The blade hasn't even been hand sharpened yet :-) I expect to be having a lot of fun with that one.

@mitchwoodwork

9 жыл бұрын

Maarten Happel Sorry Maarten, I'm definitely a user rather than a collector, so my knowledge of plane series, identification, etc. Is not so good. Try searching 'Stanley 78 bloodandgore' and that should point you in the right direction.

@maartenhappel9014

9 жыл бұрын

I'll keep searching. Thnx :-)

@OldSneelock

8 жыл бұрын

Patrick's Blood & Gore is a good reference for dating any Stanley.

@maartenhappel9014

8 жыл бұрын

Old Sneelock's Workshop tried that one... couldn't make heads or tails from there.. in this case, that is... Thnx for thinking along :-)

@OldSneelock

8 жыл бұрын

I'm still looking for info on mine too.

i don't know if i may be of use to you or your viewers but i just started making reproduction of the depth stop . also many of the clones of this plane the the stops alignment groove on the other side of the screw hole (proprietary stuff so you'd have to get parts from them i suppose) i can make throws as well. there's a lot of them missing and i hate to see good tools go unused . if its ok can i add a link to my listing? ill give every one a discount that comes from here.

@mitchwoodwork

5 жыл бұрын

Old Iron Shops Please go right ahead. It may initially be held by a spam filter, but I work through those at least once a week and will approve it.

I recently bought one of these planes at a garage sale and after viewing the video realized I am missing a number of parts. Are parts still available for this tool?

@mitchwoodwork

9 жыл бұрын

Trevor Wheeler Hi Trevor, There are certainly parts available on eBay, but a quick internet search should get you a number of suppliers. What's missing?

@trevorwheeler3973

9 жыл бұрын

The blade tighten screw and the 2 stop accessories. Thank I will search it out.

Excuse me , what can I do with this 78 plane other than rabbit ?? any other job ? sorry beginner question 🤔 ?

@mitchwoodwork

4 жыл бұрын

Vee grooves, wide dados, fit tenons, move iron to front bed to use as a bull nose plane. You can use it like a block or bench plane in many respects too. It's quite the versatile beast, so always consider it if your other planes don't fit the bill.

@athmostafa2462

4 жыл бұрын

@@mitchwoodwork interesting , so what's the difference between 78 and combination plane 45 or 55 ?? it does the same jobs ?

@mitchwoodwork

4 жыл бұрын

The 45 and 55 both offer several more functions, such as beading, sash cutting, slitting, fluting, tongue and groove

@athmostafa2462

4 жыл бұрын

@@mitchwoodwork Aha , so I have made a mistake buying 78 instead of 45 or 55 😢 , it does all the jobs isn't it ?? all in one 😖 .

@mitchwoodwork

4 жыл бұрын

No, the 45 and 55 are no replacement for bench planes or shoulder planes, and their rebate performance is no match for the 78. There is no plane I know of that can do everything, let alone do everything well.

I would like to send you a photo of a vintage metal rabbit plane with no identifcation as to who made it, and most interesting the blade which came with it is shapened like a knife. Please help us ID it: ... OORAH!!

@mitchwoodwork

9 ай бұрын

You're welcome to send it, but I have to say I'm a user not a collector or researcher of woodworking tools. You're best bet is to look up the vintage woodworking facebook group.

Good explanation but would have been nice to hear about blades and sharpening.

@mitchwoodwork

6 жыл бұрын

Paolo Mh Thanks. Good point - it has a specific blade which is sharpened with a straight edge at an angle of between thirty to thirty five degrees, bedded bevel down. Hope that helps.

@paolomh113

6 жыл бұрын

Thx for your reply but how about 25 initial with 30 micro bevel angle? do you use a jig for sharpening?

@mitchwoodwork

6 жыл бұрын

Paolo Mh That's fine, it's the cutting angle (final bevel angle) I was talking about, doesn't matter how you get there. A honing jig can be used, but because of the shaped iron, you need to pack out the side with the cutout.

@mitchwoodwork

6 жыл бұрын

Paolo Mh I don't use a jig for this these days, except every so often to reestablish the bevel angle

No depth stop or nicker on the left side. #78 is absurdly cheap right now. You can buy the complete setup for about $50 on ebay. It's a very well made and very versatile tool. Way underpriced

@mitchwoodwork

5 жыл бұрын

So true Cheers

Where bui the blade.

@mitchwoodwork

2 жыл бұрын

I think Stanley still sell them online

"Stanley No 78 Duplex rebate plane....

FYI I stopped your video 15 seconds in because of the poor sound quality, although I did fast forward to see if it improved later on. It's actually painful listening to a camera mounted mic in a 'live' room. Sort out some sort of close micing like a lavalier or wireless, and your videos will be so much better.

@mitchwoodwork

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. This is many years old, and I have many alternative mics that I choose from now.