STACCATO! Duty reliability in a 2011 package. Close to 400 police departments, including large cities, and federal agencies going with Staccato is good enough for me. If I want a competition range gun then Triarc. IF MY LIFE IS ONE THE LINE…STACCATO!

The tri11 is like 4K, you should compare it to the XC.

@bengonzalez5215

Жыл бұрын

Price tag doesn't nessicarily indicate product quality

Great video. I have a staccato p. Loving it. Would love to try out the others

Nice tools for shooting sports and high speed professionals. Nice toys for all others. My Smith and Wesson M&P 2.0 compact and Gen 5 Glock 19 are more than adequate for my purposes. It's awesome that two Texas based gun manufacturers are producing such sought after, high end firearms. Thanks for comparing them.

Totally happy with my Staccato P

Thanks for making this video - solid review!

@texasgunexperience5096

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Very nice pistols. I always thought the Staccato was expensive 😳 can get to a 4K+ pistol really quick. Before optic and flashlight. I’m definitely jealous of people who can afford that. Thanks for making this video and sharing that with someone who’ll probably never seen one of those. I’ve seen Staccato’s but never a Triarc in person. Both are awesome wish list pistols

Nicely Presented, ❤️ My Staccato’s Carry On 🤘🏼

My Staccato P is a awesome pistol! Would love to try a triarc out

Would like a Triarc but the Staccato has the proven reliability in numbers. I have the P and C2. After shooting Glocks exclusively for the last 30 years I was blown away.

Well said! Great review!

@texasgunexperience5096

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I have a Staccato P and XC. I love them both but they are two different animals. I shot a Triarc 11 and it was different to me as i shoot Staccatos all the time. The Triarc was really fast getting back to battery but with me not being use to it, it felt choppy to me. But, it is still a great and accurate firearm. So at this point its more Ford or Chevy. They both are great but it is more what the shooter themselves like.

Staccato. Also, on their website it is possible to pick the model, etc. There, is also a wait time on that even though they are pumping them out. If ceracoat is a desire a lot of that can be done afterwards.

Staccato, Triarc was reviewed by Joe from Chambers customs after receiving one from a customer and the pistol was short of very poorly made. Some reviews are out there regarding Triarcs lack of attention to detail to the new guns they are putting out now.

Staccato for me. Over the 14-18 month wait for Triarc. What parts do Triarc really make in house if any? Triarc is more of a final fit and paint shop place. It’s more like a 2K dollar price difference with all the options for the Tri-11 over the P.

I would like the Triarc flat trigger for my Staccato.

I gotta hop in on this, staccato P came with multiple recoil springs you can put whatever weight spring you want

I just saw this video for the first time, I’m a new subscriber and a proud Floridian, if I lived anywhere else in the United States it would have to be the great state of Texas, I don’t know if you’re reading this but, you asked as to which one I would choose, I choose both of them, I really love that camo slide , i’d have to have both of them, since I’m ambidextrous , The only decision I would have to make it which one I’m having on my right hand and which one I’m putting on the left-hand

@texasgunexperience5096

2 жыл бұрын

Both of these are tremendous firearms...The Triarc definitely has that extra style factor though. Thank you for your support!

great vid.. Ill take the Staccato all day

I have a staccato P duo its about as perfect a pistol as ive ever used. Never used a triarc but i hear different things some people love em some people say they arent worth it. Dunno what to think about that but the staccato is good to go

I went with the Staccato P Duo w/ RMR

From everyone I’ve talked to who’s shot both, the Tri-11 is the superior gun. You’ll pay for better, though.

@29rca

2 жыл бұрын

After $2500 what difference dies it make. Triarc made a big discount on barrel and gave me some extra mags due to long wait. Wish i would have done ceacoat.

So basically a custom gun. versus a hand assembled production gun. I'm about to order the staccato p, and the staccato C2.. I think it is a decent price entry into the 2011 World. considering what prices can go up to. Nice presentation

@texasgunexperience5096

Жыл бұрын

Cant go wrong with the Staccato! We have put a lot of rounds through both the P and C models and found that they are incredibly smooth and hard to miss with.

@michaelmcmillan2776

Жыл бұрын

@@texasgunexperience5096 I'm looking forward to upping my game. Thank you

I felt the Triarc was softer and smoother compared to a staccato P. Government TRI11 would be my dream gun

Kinda wish they had a regular 5 inch modle I have a tactical 5.0 sti in 5 inch and love it. A 4.4 inch just seems weired

Thanks for the review. Did you use the same holster for both? If so what was it.

@texasgunexperience5096

2 жыл бұрын

Sure did, Safariland model 6365RDS ALS- This model is for the Staccato P series handgun, had to remove the barrel block from the bottom of the holster and apply a little heat to remold around the Tri 11 compensator. It now works with almost all of my 2011's with a surefire x300 mounted and keeps a high level of retention

@air2bmc

2 жыл бұрын

@@texasgunexperience5096 awesome thanks.

What type of compensator is that on the TRIARC? I have that same exact TRI 11 and would love to put a comp on it.

@texasgunexperience5096

2 жыл бұрын

This is the Triarc threaded barrel and compensator combo sold through Triarc. I believe they use the Mayhem Syndicate comps, built for their guns. The fit of it is very good.

@JGr3asy

2 жыл бұрын

Yep Mayhem Syndicate Comp. I have it and the retention detent on the barrel is genius. I think I was one of rhe first to get one 4 years ago. Just gotta buy Govt. size holsters if you run retention.

What Safariland holster were you using?

@texasgunexperience5096

2 жыл бұрын

Safariland model 6365RDS ALS- This model is for the Staccato P series handgun, had to remove the barrel block from the bottom of the holster and apply a little heat to remold around the compensator. It now works with almost all of my 2011's with a surefire x300 mounted and keeps a high level of retention

Triarc trigger pull is usually 3-3.5.. Staccato is 4lbs at least. Which would you suggest for USPSA and IDPA etc?

@texasgunexperience5096

Жыл бұрын

Both triggers measured the exact same. If the guns were on even playing field (no compensators etc) I would most likely go with the Triarc for competition over the P model Staccato. The only justification for this answer is that the cyclic rate of the Triarc slide feels quicker, with how it is sprung. The truth is, neither of these are meant as competition guns, and if you are going to spend $3-4k on a handgun, there are plenty of " race gun" options. The Staccato XL and XC are absolute cheater guns and worth a look.

@Outlander18

Жыл бұрын

@@texasgunexperience5096 Thank you

So I have a TRI-11 Commander. I am wondering if anyone knows will my TRI-11 fit the Dara Level 3 holster for a Staccato P?

@texasgunexperience5096

2 жыл бұрын

it should, I used the same safariland holster for all of the 2011 videos. - The Triarc has more of a squared off cut along the topside of the slide, while the Staccato P is more rounded and a hair higher. All this means is that there is a bit more clearance needed for the P. The retention on holster is typically around the trigger guard or light if applicable.

@connectheezdots

2 жыл бұрын

@@texasgunexperience5096 thank you! I guess I’m going to take a risk and try it!

Staccato any day all day!

Dealing with Triarc...scratch that....trying to contact Triarc sold me....on a Staccato P Comp.

@texasgunexperience5096

Жыл бұрын

Great Gun! How do you like the compensator?

Did you use the same holster for both the Staccato & TriArc?

@texasgunexperience5096

2 жыл бұрын

Sure did. the secret recipe is the Safariland model 6365RDS ALS- This model is for the Staccato P series handgun, had to remove the barrel block from the bottom of the holster and apply a little heat to remold around the compensator. It now works with almost all of my 2011's with a surefire x300 mounted and keeps a high level of retention.

@connectheezdots

2 жыл бұрын

@@texasgunexperience5096 Now I wonder if the Dara Retention Level II holster will work! I have a class later this month that I need one ASAP for it can’t find one with a short turnaround time.

Do you guys sell the guns on your channel?

@texasgunexperience5096

2 жыл бұрын

We are a 35K sq ft facility with a huge selection of product for sale. A lot of the guns that you will see on the channel will be for sale, for rent, and from personal staff collections.

Prefer Staccato because of the price difference but if I’m spending 4K/+ it’s ATLAS all day

@texasgunexperience5096

Жыл бұрын

That's a sweet choice

Well good to know you can pay an extra 1k to wait over a year and a half for a Triarc.

Ignoring the price tag... I'd take the triarc. But in 45acp. I want a 2011 in 45 soooooooo bad. But I'm not paying $2k+ for a pistol. I'll stick with my Springfield 1911.

Do yall have Triarc for sale at yall shop?

@texasgunexperience5096

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, we are very close to their HQ so we get guns from them often. That said, they sell out extremely fast. We usually get a hand full of pistols and rifles every 5-6 weeks. 2011's are the slowest to trickle in and not seen as often.

@YGSnB

2 жыл бұрын

@@texasgunexperience5096 do yall have triarc 2011 in the shop now?

When you say up until recently, they’re the same weight.. Do you mean the steel frame staccato P in comparison to the TRI-11?!

@michaell397

2 жыл бұрын

That's what he said. ;

@texasgunexperience5096

2 жыл бұрын

correct. The steel frames measured identical. Staccato now offers the aluminum frame, which gives them a weight savings advantage.

@AJ13B

2 жыл бұрын

@@texasgunexperience5096 right on, I thought that’s what I understood from what you said, I was just making sure I got it right! I might drive up to you guys one weekend and check the place out!

@texasgunexperience5096

2 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah! Its definitely worth the trip. If you come out on a Friday, we have discounted machine gun rentals. We also have a Staccato and a Triarc to demo.

@AJ13B

2 жыл бұрын

@@texasgunexperience5096 I’ve had enough time behind machine guns when I was active duty, lol.. But if the staccato and TRI-ARC demo is on Fridays only, I’ll make sure I’ll come up on a Friday! 😍🤤

dat intro lool

I'll take the Triarc.... in .45 acp. That's my only beef with staccato they only offer 9mm now

Bul Armory

You gonna be waiting a year plus for the Triarc , if you gonna wait that long mind as well get a nighthawk.

Howdy Fellow Texican. I live just up the road from Staccato and Dawson Precision. The TriArc strikes me as deciding to become a Gucci brand selling to people who want to seem Kool and like like the movies they watch. Their vids are full of female eye candy gushing over the owner of the company. Seems other than a few, none know or really care about quality or guns in general. Just wanting to be in the in crowd. Kinda turns me off on the brand. The owner on the range is a show boat. I don't doubt the lack of true quality at all. Seems he is after a fan base more than being serious about his craft. Well, other than the bucks that is. Typical Holly Wood all the way is the impression I get. KnifeMaker

Bottom line though is that triarc and staccato are both what we would call entry level 2011's right? They're both production guns at the end of the day with minor fitting associated with the process. Both use polymer grip modules instead of the better metal modules (that flex bs has been disproved by the competitive shooting crowd years ago and literally everyone shoots metal grip modules now). Both guns have a reputation of both loosening up and developing maintenance issues at a much earlier round count than semicustom or custom guns. Triarc in particular has had a particularly bad rep of late both in their lead times and their qc. Triarc offers a few more options and uses some slightly more premium parts, but at their pricepoint you're almost at custom gun territory, where you get a LOT more performance and a MUCH nicer gun. I will say that if you know how to tune your own mags, buying staccato or triarc (triarc especially) mags is a great bargain. Even buying a triarc mag and swapping out the spring and baseplate is cheaper than just buying a tuned mag or an mbx. Staccato is like $10 more so still a bargain.

@klee1410

2 жыл бұрын

@@ronmucci3331 How bout... I've owned 3 (sti) staccato's in the past (I've moved beyond the point where I'm interested in anything they make other than mags) and I currently own an infinity custom designed limited gun, 2 atlases (athena and nemesis), a guncrafter x2 commander and a nighthawk trs comp. I know the grip flex shit is bs because I've literally shot and owned all these guns at one point or another and every single polymer grip module gun underperformed compared to metal gripped guns. I've owned an edge, a dvc omni, and the gen 1 staccato P. None of them perform even to my harshest shooting metal gripped 2011 (the guncrafter). Not even the comped omni shoots as well as a non comped metal gripped gun. Metal grips are a HUGE deal in modern limited guns. No maker is using poly on performance guns anymore. Only people making "tactical" guns, as staccato has shifted to, can still get away with it because, lets be honest, tactical shooters don't really care what their split times are. And they rarely care to know the physics behind how guns work other than they go bang when you pull the trigger and you death grip the shit out of them to control recoil... oh... and I forgot...GrOssMot0rSki115. If you happen to be one of those guys.. lemme spell it out to you: recoil is a function or reciprocating mass vs non reciprocating mass. The less reciprocating mass the better. The MORE nonreciprocating mass the better. The GRIP is non reciprocating and metal weights a LOT more than plastic. No amount of "flex" makes up for the weight difference. It's massive. STI/staccato doesn't have polymer grips because it helps with recoil, they have polymer grips because it's super cheap. Their grips are like $50-100. Metal grips are around $600-800. Before fitting and whatever finish you want. As to staccatos loosening up with higher round count, it's widely known that staccato's are production guns made with very minimal hand fitting involved to get the cost down. Their own marketing team touts this as cost savings and shorter lead time for the customer. Well, all that hand fitting that they don't do on a staccato... that's when someone in a custom shop will, under magnification, break all the little imperfections and machine burrs and marks so that there's a perfect fit. That way, as your gun cycles, everything wears evenly. On a non fit gun, like staccato, uneven parts or burrs will wear first, aka break in. Well guess what, those uneven parts and burs were what was making your gun tight, and once they wear in, your gun loosens up. This isn't a phenomenon isolated to staccato. EVERY production 1911 does this. Fire 50k rounds through a sig scorpion and that shit is a lot looser than it was at 2k down the pipe. That's the way production guns work. For extreme examples of this super tight when new.. wtf happened at 50k phenomenon... see "Kimber". In any case, loosening up on slide to frame isn't really the big issue. Loosening up of barrel lockup is a bigger issue, and the biggest issue is that without the hand fitting, guns tend to wear in an unpredictable fashion, which often leads to shorter lifespans for both common wear parts and, frankly, even parts that shouldn't be wearing out. Again, not a problem unique to staccato. It's ALL production guns. Now, a LOT of production guns, ie: every striker fired gun out there, aleviate this problem by just starting out with a good deal of slop in the fit tolerances. Staccatos don't do this, because it would be unacceptable in their price range. So yes, when you buy your staccato, it starts off quite good and fairly accurate, but give it 50-100k rounds and it's not the same gun you bought a year ago. Also, like kimber, you get some nice mim parts with your staccato, unless they changed that when they ditched their old name, which is unlikely. Common practice when buying an STI used to be you buy the gun, you buy an extreme engineering fire control group, an SV trigger bow+shoe, a dawson guide rod +firing pin, and the actually correct weight recoil spring, and you take them to a competent gunsmith (or you know how to fit stuff). You or your gunsmith then throw out all the STI parts except the frame, barrel, and slide, and you fit the new parts, pin the grip safety, and do an acceptable trigger job, and then you send your shitty sti grip module to extreme shooters for grip work. That was before we all moved to metal grips btw. But that's another story. STI/Staccato is not some sort of lambo luxury gun. It's literally the bottom of the barrel bare minimum quality 2011 that I'd actually tell someone to consider. It's the PSA of 2011's. They mass produce the product and get people into the platform at a reasonable cost. Which is a great thing. We need a company that will do that. But they're not a custom shop and you're kidding yourself if you expect custom/semicustom performance out of one of their guns. PS: you're about a month late on this comment aren't you? this was forever ago.

@buckcleveland9059

2 жыл бұрын

@@klee1410 so how many people on this planet will ever get 50 k threw a gun in there life time especially now 🤔

You got paid by triarch didn’t you ? Personally I think the staccato is nicer gun !

@texasgunexperience5096

2 жыл бұрын

No payments... Both examples are excellent firearms, and do the job, just in different ways. This is more of an overview to let viewers decide what may work best for them.