sponsored by intel 750 ssd. "were using a corsair ssd"😂😂😂😂

@jonathanoxlade4252

8 жыл бұрын

Intel 750 fucking fast pcie ssd that's makes Sata ssds cry

@999is666upsidedown

7 жыл бұрын

but why pcie when m.2 m

@IanMustafa

7 жыл бұрын

M.2 NVMe uses PCIe lane, so those are the same thing (besides the form factor)

@kellinquinn6526

7 жыл бұрын

And they usually disable SATA ports instead of PCIe lanes used by the PCIe slots, unlike a PCIe SSD. Also, PCIe-based SSDs, even something like the new super fast 960 Pro with over 3GB/s doesn't really perform too much better at all in the real world over a SATA SSD. It really only performs better for things that do large file transfers like copying large video files for video editing and then that's really only when the file is being copied to the same drive, not another (unless of course there are two PCIe SSDs).

@999is666upsidedown

7 жыл бұрын

but I don't need the sata port if I'm using my ssd in that m.2 slot .-.

I'd like to point out that this is a very unfair comparison. The HDD, being as old as it is, has a terrible read/write speed compared to a brand new HDD, not just that, because it's so old, the HDD has been worn a lot, making it even slower... To make this test fair he should have cloned his data to a brand new HDD as well as the SSD; that way he'd run a fucked up OS on 2 brand new drives, rather than on one brand new and one ancient...

@1300l

10 жыл бұрын

Indeed, it is actually less fair than the fresh install tests.

@Glisern

10 жыл бұрын

Well, the idea wasn't to get the best of both markets to do a fully loaded, brand new test. The idea was for the average user with a shite HDD, and what performence boost he would get, with an SSD with identical load.

@1300l

10 жыл бұрын

Glisern Dont make sense as if you update that shity HDD you would still make a fresh install. Also from what i understood it was to show as if the SSD was just as old (that they failue in my view)

@NikolajLepka

10 жыл бұрын

Glisern You have to take hardware wear into account... A brand new hdd is gonna be more than 3 times faster than a 6 year old one of the same make and capacity, simply because they didn't make them as good back then as they do now. Which is why it's more fair to migrate the data to a new HDD as well as a new SSD. To put it in perspective: What they did in the test was compare a Model T with a modern day electric car, rather than comparing a gasoline car and an electric car from the same year under the same load

@1300l

10 жыл бұрын

Nikolaj Lepka Also, that barracuda can even be SATA 2 depending on how old it is.

Watches a SSD vs Hard Drive Torture Test Conclusion: "Nice T-Shirt"

@pplayer3187

4 жыл бұрын

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA XDXDXD

Been rocking an SSD for the past 3 and half years. Once you go SSD for your boot drive, you never go back.

3:08 THIS... is Sparta.

@abdelhalemmasarwe8900

3 жыл бұрын

😀😂😂😂😂😂

Is there a huge difference when playing games?

@inertia2wing646

10 жыл бұрын

No. SSD only make fast boot up, read and write files. Nothing more.

@racoonsurvivor3132

10 жыл бұрын

Negative

@andrewwinn5829

10 жыл бұрын

Loading times shrink substantially.

@pitbikecrazyguy

10 жыл бұрын

No. The only way it will effect your games is load times.

@rwkeith

10 жыл бұрын

In Battlefield 4, it makes a big difference in map load time.

Awesome guys you've pretty much cemented an SSD into my next build. Love the real world tests the only tests really worth a damn. Couldn't think of a better use for your old drive. Thanks

I have been watching SSD vs HDD tests for a few days now and this is the one video that made things clear of what happens after you use a drive for a longer time. Great video and thank you for it.

But can i run Word faster?

@onibon1990

8 жыл бұрын

+TheRomanRuler EVERYTHING loads and runs way faster on ssd

@yeeyee5054

8 жыл бұрын

+Anirban Mukherjee that was a joke

@rickyborby

8 жыл бұрын

+Paintball Noob EVERY JOKE loads and runs way faster on ssd

@dooomsdaycake5291

8 жыл бұрын

jpeg images?

@chance5280

7 жыл бұрын

Actually, yeah. It starts word faster.

I get annoyed people keep referencing boot times when that's about the least impressive difference between an SSD an HDD. It's to the point where people think that boot times is all it improves. Seriously just go scroll down and I bet close to half the comments consist of this: "My *insert random HDD brand* drive boots in like *Insert random time in the 30seconds -1min range* why do I need an SSD?". If you can't wrap your brain around the fact the an SSD improves every facet of the general computing experience as well as providing a drastic decrease in game load times (especially those with large HD textures) then whatever. Enjoy purposely avoiding change and purposely making your computer experience worse because you are too cheap to shell out what is at this point a very nominal amount of money. I mean come on, on the extreme low end you are talking 50-60 bucks. Also please don't reference the amount of storage space you are getting for that money. That's a non-issue in a desktop environment because you are paying for the speed not the space and your old HDD hasn't magically disappeared for all your mass storage needs.

@devilmikey00

10 жыл бұрын

***** Yup I was helping troubleshoot my parents crappy prebuilt computer the other day which is running an HDD for boot (computers fairly new so I'm going to guess it's a 7200rpm seagate) and holy crap you don't realize how SLOW it is when you haven't used an HDD for a boot drive for over 2 years. Took what felt like an eternity to boot, just opening up random folders had a lag I wasn't used to and even opening up the start menu I could SEE the icons loading up ;p It felt like the computer was freezing up every time I clicked something because I'm just not used to the seek times on HDD's anymore. It's just a subtle lag to everything I was doing that I never want back after using an SSD.

@Easterhands

10 жыл бұрын

Yes, thank you! This whole comment section has been annoying to read. An ssd is the biggest improvement to your pc experience for the money. It can make an old pc feel responsive and light it's so nice. The only people with criticisms are the ones who haven't tried it.

@janiszambars6132

10 жыл бұрын

Devon Clancy The comment section of any video is annoying these days to read, unless it's something unequivocal that everyone agrees on or likes. What's even worse is that the grammar and punctuation skills are thrown out of the window, and you've little kids going on about some redundant and arbitrary nonsense. I didn't see anything wrong with the video; yet there're 39 dislikes( most likely because Linus suggested that those who've upgraded to an SSD might be deluded).

@aserta

10 жыл бұрын

Janis Zambars The dislikes and the polarizing effect you observe in the comment section seems to be centered around the fact that the test was not correct. Old HDD, new SSD. There is fact to the issue. SSDs degrade far faster and if an SSD will suffer catastrophic failure there is the problem of recovery which is not as high as that of an HDD. There is also the issue of price/storage and other minor details. The upgrade to SSD is deluded. Because SSD is presented as the next best thing, yet the tech behind it has been in use for a long time without major breakthroughs. Meh, at the end of the day it is irrelevant. A hdd will always be more reliable and when money is concerned any smart person will choose reliability.

@janiszambars6132

10 жыл бұрын

aserta What you've said is extremely subjective. Even though your points might be shared amongst the common consumers, you've to remember that there are ample amount of people out there who can afford SDD's, even in raid 0. Not only that but having top of the line SSD's such as the Intel 730 series SSD's in raid 0 for many justify the cost. The divergence in performance is akin to that of buying an exorbitant car (£50,000 for example) instead of a modest car (£15,000).

So glad this video is now here! I love the very in depth spec comparisons/ reviews!

Been watching your channel for ages, and I appreciate the extra mile you guys go to help out and provide info that actually helps make real life decisions, IT wise. Love it! Great work as always, Cheers!

@6-30Gaming

Жыл бұрын

I just started watching his channel and I see the same results!

Every single friend I've recommended an SSD to were hesitant at first but once they got one. they said they would never go back to HDD. They were all amazed at the difference. Honestly, you have to have one to see what I mean. If you haven't got one, get one.

@revorocks123

10 жыл бұрын

It just makes everything better, even small things like opening right click menu's. There's never a delay with an SSD, yet on HDD it loads for a few seconds. Also opening start menu's, using search, loading the list of installed programs before uninstalling. All happen instantly. Just makes using your pc so much nicer.

@Grrizz84

10 жыл бұрын

Totally agree, my main system has had nothing but SSDs for a few years now, just recently I wanted some extra cheap space for game recording and a bit of "scratch pad" storage so I got a WD black, 2 weeks later I had to get a second one for RAID 0 just to help make it bearable to use. Even though all its used for is low use storage it still managed to frustrate the s*** out of me.

@blaxout1213

9 жыл бұрын

i will if you pay for it :/

@AgedQuasar

9 жыл бұрын

When you go for speed, want speed (SSD), you really can't go back. Slow (hard disk) is NOT where it's at for those of us who compete in gaming, or even just normal desktop activities... ;) (Hard drives are best for cheap mass storage these days.)

@Vinni-2K

5 жыл бұрын

hmm after growing up with playing minecraft with 5-8 fps regurlarly and seeing my laptop(ibm r40) crash when trying to play any downloaded game, i just cant imagine the luxury of having a ssd,and now i am about to buy a 970 evo 500gb m.2 ssd

Great and very representative video in terms of "real life situations". We need more stuff like this! It easier for customers to be identified with what they'll get!

@devilmikey00

10 жыл бұрын

YA this far better shows the "quality of life" improvements an SSD provides.

I was waiting for this video since the live stream. Thanks for the awesome work!!!

I've just had a new pc without an ssd and for the machine to boot up and be useable took 2mins. Now I've installed an ssd and moved everything over to that, 2mins has now been reduced to 27 seconds.

@zenoist2

9 жыл бұрын

MatthiasRosberg ypu should have typed msconfig in the start run box thing and got rid of all the crap that runs when you start up. 2 mins to start is ridiculous.

@benjamin4930

9 жыл бұрын

Well shit dude, my pc takes 23 seconds to load up and I only have one 1tb hdd. I'm buying a ssd later on to make the system even faster.

@benjamin4930

9 жыл бұрын

*****​ But my looks empty without ssds in the front. I have the nzxt h440 case.

@MrDark21knight

9 жыл бұрын

MatthiasRosberg you should check for firmware updates for your SSD and make sure your BIOS setting is AHCI unless your running windows8 or better

@onakaxy

8 жыл бұрын

+MatthiasRosberg 27 sec boot with a ssd? sounds kinda long imo. My pc goes down and it is up and running again under 10 sec. Although i only have my OS on my SSD and the rest on my HDD that does not boot at the same time

I love that there are actually people in these comments arguing that SSDs don't matter, aren't worth it, etc. They are objectively better in every single way that I can think of. It sucks that some of you guys can't afford one or haven't used one yet, but that doesn't mean you need to leave incredibly stupid, un-informed, and simply incorrect opinions laying around the place. :3

@roseroserose588

10 жыл бұрын

Only thing they aren't good for is high-availability, high-load storage. But of course, if you're doing anything like that you're going to be using enterprise grade drives, which will dick on a standard HDD

@AConsolePeasant

10 жыл бұрын

I agree, but I'd rather get a better CPU/RAM than get an SSD. I don't care the loading times, I'd rather get up and get a quick snack/drink.

@letsgoiowa

10 жыл бұрын

The problem is that I need a lot of storage space, and that isn't something an SSD will excel at. Speed is nice, but storage space is necessary.

@HellDestroyer77

10 жыл бұрын

And that's why a secondary 1-2 TB HDD for music, pics, etc is a great solution to that.

@RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse

10 жыл бұрын

***** So they are not, in fact, better in any single way you can think of. Your statement is as worthless as the ones you're complaining about. SSDs and HDDs have different strengths and weaknesses and thus lend themselves for different applications. It's foolish to think either will replace the other any time soon.

Wow, a Seagate drive that didn't die after less than a year? Is such a thing possible?

@iDian23

9 жыл бұрын

Matt D I have a Seagate HDD for almost 4 years now.

@mattd6931

9 жыл бұрын

iDian23 Every Seagate drive I've ever had has died after less than a year. I only use WD now for mechanical drives.

@abdullahakhtar8161

8 жыл бұрын

My Seagate drive died after 1 year and they made me pay for postage and some expensive packaging to replace it. Costed about $20 in total

@MashedPotatonator

8 жыл бұрын

+Matt D (Frizbee) I had 2 Samsung laptop HDDs (Rebranded Seagate). The first one lasted 9 months and the other one lasted 7. My moms AIO PC has a desktop Seagate and is almost 5 years old and still going strong.

@AhmedSamirr

8 жыл бұрын

+Matt D (Frizbee) me 2tb Seagate did do click of death then died after 3 years :( i am using now WD Green 2tb

They should have cloned the data to a new HDD and used that one for testing. Now they're comparing a HDD with 5 years of usage to a brand new SSD. The difference probably won't be that big but it still seems a bit unfair.

@potatoonastick2239

8 жыл бұрын

The point of this video is also to show that if you have a old HDD, with maybe around 5 years of usage, is it worth it to buy a new SSD? That's why they compared a old HDD to a new SSD, not new HDD to new SSD.

@antoniz3692

8 жыл бұрын

but wouldn't you be upgrading from an old HDD to a new ssd

@antoniz3692

8 жыл бұрын

but wouldn't you be upgrading from an old HDD to a new ssd.

@ashscott6068

7 жыл бұрын

It's comparing a HDD to an SSD...it's ALWAYS gonna be unfair. It's like comparing a zeppelin to an A380

@FluorescentGreen5

7 жыл бұрын

yeah the hard drive would be out performed by new hdds, it would be nice to see the performance gap between the old and new hdds. also fuck segate

I have learned more back door fixes and standard fixes that have helped keep me going with my buils. Thank you so much for taking the time to build these videos to help other tecs, it's very generous of you. Your information would not come cheap at a omputer store so I hope all that watch your vids appreciate them as much as I do. Priceless information, thank you again and again.

"If you don't like the video, dislike and subscribe. We will make something you will like eventually."

once you go ssd you never go back (unless you lose your job, and dont have much money)

@andrester88

10 жыл бұрын

or a student

@andrewjohnson5227

10 жыл бұрын

Andre Cruz I'm a student, and I have an SSD

@rubikfan1

10 жыл бұрын

Andrew Johnson so do i but i do have a partime job. without i wouldnt have one

@andrewjohnson5227

10 жыл бұрын

rubikfan1 Same here man. Cool thing about living in a shared house, fuck all living expenses, can still afford nice things

@rubikfan1

10 жыл бұрын

Andrew Johnson i still live in my parents hous. but with my own room(half a floor). i basicly rant a room for free. and free food. and free washing. and no water and electric bill.

So glad I found this guys videos! Helpful af!

Once you have SSD, you never go back to HDD ;) I have a laptop with SSD that I've had as my daily machine for about 5 years now (Win7/64) and I keep it fairly clean + use autoruns now and again to make sure nothing necessary is trying to start on login The original install was ghosted over to a larger SSD about 18 months ago, but in all that time it's consistently booted up in around 30s and is as fast to use as when installed. The old 128Gb drive I stuck in a caddy and used to safely store video/pics when travelling :)

@MrVidification

5 жыл бұрын

four years later > how is the ssd now and-or how long did it last, signs of failing?

@riyuiwashere

4 жыл бұрын

I have 3 2TB SSD for Games,OS,system and apps and a 6TB HDD for pictures,videos,movies,songs and programs can a SSD store much than a HDD?

Wow, that HDD is like my 107 year-old great-grandmother. It has really gone through everything that could ever happen.

@nathangek

10 жыл бұрын

Even AIDS

@flowingbass

10 жыл бұрын

shingles dont forget shingles

@1300l

10 жыл бұрын

Funny i have an HDD from 1993 who still have my 1999 Windows 95 instalation and it run better then this HDD from slick. But again his HDD has more shit then mine.

@semhak

10 жыл бұрын

If the HDD didn't get Vista installed on it it didn't go through the worst of it. Let us all remember the drives that did.

@CheapSushi

9 жыл бұрын

LMAO!

It still isnt a fair test. The OS, drivers, boot table and softwares may be the same. But the HDD is old and there for its damadged with time (and run a slower SATA i bet). Where the SSD may have the same terrible softwares, but the drive it self is new.

@CbarMiiXaaS

10 жыл бұрын

Yeah it just looks like a plug for corsair

@ict89007

10 жыл бұрын

I've done similar tests with a Intel SSD that's about a year old and a western digital black drive that I bought about the same time and got similar results. SSDs really do make a huge difference. its just a mater of if the cost is worth it to you.

@1300l

10 жыл бұрын

John Kempton I know, HDD cant beat SSD, not even the velociraptors from WD. But the test still isnt fair, the age diference do give even a bigger advantage over.

@Bulwark1911

10 жыл бұрын

It's a real world test, showing a user upgrading to an SSD from an old mechanical, and then cloning their old drive.

@MasticinaAkicta

10 жыл бұрын

John Kempton I got one in my PS3. And as we know the PS3 is rather limited in many ways, slow chipset, tiny amount of memory etc. But even there things are smoother. And that is a big feel difference, An HDD is just not as smooth.. but an SSD will just smoothly do what you ask it to.

Ive been needing help with a retro build and these ancient LTT videos are helping a lot, thanks.

Great video keep up the good work guys

and now the same under linux?

Can i get more fps in all games on ssd ?

@johnathonmonson

10 жыл бұрын

You can get much quicker load times though.

@Hannermanchannel

10 жыл бұрын

A high FPS isn't really down to your HDD or SSD, I might help a tiny bit, but FPS is more about what your GPU and CPU can churn out. Hope this helps

@ytc51

10 жыл бұрын

nope. As Hannerman said, you'll need a better GPU and CPU to achieve higher performance in games.

@smanni01

10 жыл бұрын

No but you will be in and playing before the other players with regular HDDs. It's fantastic for games like Battlefield, I'm always one of the first into vehicles while everyone is still in the loading screen

@xXcondidiXx

10 жыл бұрын

Nope, But... 0 loading times,

Thanks for giving us a different, real-world, perspective on the ssd vs hdd comparison. I appreciate guys.

Love that tower set-up you've got going there.....LOL!

Nvidia 7000 series ? .. Linus do you know something we don´t O_o ?

@progste

10 жыл бұрын

yes, there is even an nvidia 7950 =P it was around one year before the wii and xbox 360 came out

@WhoAmIToDie

10 жыл бұрын

Nope they are old cards, Nvidia series used to be in the thousands and got changed when the 9800 card got rebranded to the 240 gtx

@Ledabot

10 жыл бұрын

The annotations said he meant the 700 series. If you have them off, you might have missed it.

@legice

10 жыл бұрын

use google and you shal see. what if I tell you there is a ati/amd 9000 series ?:D

@PcGameHunter

10 жыл бұрын

It´s not an annotation, it´s in the video, i was just joking :D

How about doing that same test with an actual five year old ssd?

@NoLChefoTSM

10 жыл бұрын

There's no such thing as a 5-year-old SSD. They die after 3 years tops.

@kassuvaisto

10 жыл бұрын

But how about using a new hard drive that you copy the os to

@underpantcockroach

10 жыл бұрын

NoL Chefo they don't, how come the Samsung ones come with a 5 year warrantee? Stop quoting false facts

@1300l

10 жыл бұрын

Exactly, SSD is a gamble, it can last 5 years or more, or it can last at the most 5 years. Where there are still HDD from 1995 PCs that still running the install from that year.

@NoLChefoTSM

10 жыл бұрын

***** From my experience, if I use an SSD extensively, i.e lots of installing/deleting, it dies after 3-4 years. You can get it to 5 years. I'm kind of conflicted on them, but they're getting cheaper so that's good.

really good test! liked and shared! :D

this is the type of videos we need

+LinusTechTips While I do like this video a lot, because it's more realistic, when files are copied to a new drive the files won't be fragmented, as they'll be copied as a whole file instead of as the fragments. So I'd love to see a follow-up video on this where the data is then copied back to the HDD from the SSD, just to make sure that the file fragmentation issue isn't something that's at play here. (After all, a mechanical hard drive has to move the head back and forth to read data, so the more fragmented the data across the platters, the longer it'll take to read it all. However, if the files aren't fragmented then they can be read sequentially, which for a hard drive is pretty important for performance.) Hope this comment of mine was helpful/useful. And once again, great video Linus. (Note: maybe I should note that most users wouldn't have a free SSD lying around to clone their HDD to, and then clone it back to the HDD. But having one more benchmark of what a fully de-fragmented HDD can do for performance versus a completely fragmented HDD would be a nice touch, just to add icing on the cake for the benchmark results.) Have a good one, guys! =)

@progste

10 жыл бұрын

fragmentation slows down an hdd because the magnetic head has to move all over the place to find each piece of data, that is not a problem on an ssd, so fragmentation doesn't matter

@JayMannStuff

10 жыл бұрын

***** I know that's not a problem for an SSD. I was saying fragmentation is a problem for hard drives. As progste mentioned in his reply, fragmentation slows down an HDD because each piece of data may be on a different track and sector, causing the mechanical head of the hard drive to move back and forth while the OS is multi-tasking. That mechanical movement causes the bandwidth bottleneck for the OS we see today, and until the OS gets the whole file back from the storage device (in this example, hard drive), it has to wait until it can open it. In a heavily multi-tasking operating system with large files (as modern operating systems and program files now are), big delays in reading files is a huge issue. If you're interested in reading more, check this blog post about it: www.computableminds.com/post/Hard-disk/HDD/HD/partition/good/bad/track/sector/cylinder/head My point was that it might be a nice touch to add a hard drive benchmark that *ISN'T* de-fragmented, and one hard drive benchmark that *IS* de-fragmented. That way, if a user installs a free disk defragmenter app (like Defraggler, by Piriform), they might get a small boost. I wanted to see that difference in performance because I wanted to see how much it would affect a very old hard drive that has undergone various upgrades, drivers, installations, uninstallations, etc. I know it won't compare to a fresh OS install or an SSD upgrade, but having more benchmark numbers wouldn't hurt, and if the performance difference is big enough to justify not having to upgrade an SSD for the next few months, it might really help the average user who can't afford these things right away.

Even if the speed was the same, I like knowing my data is safe when using my laptop in bumpy places and there is no annoying noise from a HDD while running.

I love you guys been watching for a year or so I've been a it guy for years finally moving to a sand disk ssd and I love this test there should be more like this sense it shows real world scenarios for true performance

Great video guys , keep doing the good job :)

You should test my 200MB HDD from my 486 computer from 1992. It hasn't been formatted since 1998 I think, still running Windows 95 :D

@MrNamegame

8 жыл бұрын

Damn

@BryantAvant

8 жыл бұрын

Windows XP on modern computers with a HDD loads in just a few seconds. Bet you could top 2 or 3 seconds with an ssd and i7.

@gabrielbenchimol572

8 жыл бұрын

That's a grandfather

@MrNamegame

8 жыл бұрын

***** He's saying it's damn old.

@joycescruggs3859

8 жыл бұрын

What the hell is widows 95

this test was faulty as the hdd was clearly worn out and the ssd was not worn for the same length. great video though.

@mrfoxycracker4836

7 жыл бұрын

Well think, it was from the perspective of upgrading from a hard drive to an ssd, so. what your or I would see.

@Malus1531

7 жыл бұрын

I don't really get the point of the video. We all know that SSD is faster than HDD. If the argument is that HDD slows down over time, I would've like to see the load times for a new HDD or a clean install in comparison.

@mrfoxycracker4836

7 жыл бұрын

jockslap ^ I got an SSD because of this video actually

@mrfoxycracker4836

7 жыл бұрын

jockslap I'm using my old HDD for games and such, gonna beat on it until it dies. lmao, but. I would replace all my hdds with SSDs if i had the money to

@shnrbtlle18

7 жыл бұрын

Actually it would not matter how old the ssd is because they have NO moving parts at all, hdd is full of moving parts that can ware out over time and cause failure to an HDD as opposed to an SSD which has no moving parts, Hints the name (solid state drive) and will not fail under stress and does not get hot at all. So it doesn't really matter which one is new the SSD will always outlast HHD

Yes, please! More of these comparison videos. They are pretty unique on the interwebz.

Thank you guys. Keep doing what you're doing, you're the best!

Damn, I thought you were literally going to torture them.

The real test would be a old SSD filed with Garbage and a brand-new clean HDD I bet the SSD will still out perform the HDD

That is quite a good idea. Great test.

That was a very interesting little comparison.

This test could be fair if - Both HDD and SSD were new with a copy of the old drive's image. All the questions would go away in that case (cause the fact the hdd is old and by some reason they even didn't test it - where is the check on bad sectors of the drive?SMART info? this was a little bit lazy of you.But still thanks for the video

@invgreat5608

9 жыл бұрын

:( of course there has been such an obvious suggestion already in the comments :(

@jothain

9 жыл бұрын

You totally missed the point of this video. Check it out again. They specifically wanted to show what old hdd's are like after heavy use. And what improvement can be gained by upgrading to SSD. I don't get it how so many people have missed the point of video.

@invgreat5608

9 жыл бұрын

jothain Well, you've missed my point a lot. To break it down for you to very a simple statement : there is a Huge difference between healthy old hdd and Not healthy old hdd

@shivshankredemption5024

9 жыл бұрын

Inv Great but its a worst case senarios and a lot of times it will be both unhealthy and old

@invgreat5608

9 жыл бұрын

Damn, somehow it's pointless to note that healthy old hdd and an old hdd with bad sectors ARE VERY DIFFERENT THINGS. very surprising that is not clear enough to some people. Again. they should have check old hdd on bad sectors and S.m.a.r.t. check

As far as I'm concerned. Once you go SSD, you never go back. Running someone else's system with HDD's is like having your teeth pulled.

@JamesAutoDude

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Sometimes I feel like just freaking paying for one for them because it'll piss me off so much lol.

@99xara99

5 жыл бұрын

But it's wayy too expensive for me to save all my data and programs on ssd :/ I got my windows on a small SSD and already very happy about the much quicker boot etc

@jace_Henderson

4 жыл бұрын

It’s nice having the ssd and hdd combo because all the things you heavily use you can throw on the ssd and the hdd for less important things, pictures and videos, and not have to worry about all the data you store and delete using up your write cycles.

@riyuiwashere

4 жыл бұрын

@@jace_Henderson yeah you're a smart one SSD peasants are like console peasants don't know a shit.

@The8Osbaby

4 жыл бұрын

Once you go m.2 you never go back 3 second boot times

I have a question. Could you basically program your pc to to destroy your hdd to spin it too fast when pressing a wanted key or are current hard drives almost indestructible?

Where can I get that table thing Linus uses? Not sure what it's called. Or is there a tutorial on how to make one?

"We'll make something you like eventually" xDD nice one

I think this would have been a more interesting comparison if you have given the choice between a new HD or a new SSD. We all understand that the old drive will perform badly. The question would be if I need to replace it, should I buy another HD or an SSD with the price premium that brings.

@MrDark21knight

9 жыл бұрын

RogerWilco SSD would still be faster then the newest HDD. always!

@Wilvin

9 жыл бұрын

MrDark21knight No shit, aren't you a genuis. RogerWilco is saying comparing a old HDD to a new SSD (even if it is a clone of the old HDD) is not as fair since the HDD also has years of more wear and tear on it. They should have cloned it to a new, modern HDD than compare that to the new SSD to get a more accurate result.

@MrDark21knight

9 жыл бұрын

psst waste of time. and they did that in another video...HD got its ass kick

@Wilvin

9 жыл бұрын

MrDark21knight Please send me a link or tell me the title because I did not see any other video of them matching the description I gave in my previous comment.

@MrDark21knight

9 жыл бұрын

RogerWilco buy an SSD, i am using one. OCZ ARC 100. well worth the $

Very interesting and helpful!

Wow, very old video! Anyway, really helpful and quality as usual.

Age is a huge factor as well. If you have a 3 year old HDD and clone to an SSD that's brand new (or not the same age) of course the SSD is going to perform better because it doesn't have all the mileage as the HDD. There's really no fair test to compare SSD's to HDD's unless you install the same exact programs, drivers, games, etc. every single time to both drives for a set time such as 2 years, which who has time for that lol. Cloning doesn't mean it's a fair test

@ijulesy

8 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@terrylee8804

8 жыл бұрын

Point is SSD is faster than HDD in general, got the money then go for one :P !

@jonathanoxlade4252

8 жыл бұрын

pcie is faster ssd is fast hybrid HDD slow regular HDD fucking slow

@GreatMelonLord

8 жыл бұрын

It wasn't meant as a "fair" test. Most people looking to get an SSD have 3-5+ year old HDD in their system that's been used for a lot of things. I don't care about synthetic benchmarks with freshly formatted drives running just windows and bench-marking software, I care about what kind of speed increase I can expect an SSD to give me over the HDD that's sitting in my system right now. This was much closer to showing that than many other SSD vs HDD comparisons.

I usually format my PC once every two years or so, or just buy a new one lol.

This is a great test that still holds up today. Good info for anyone wondering about upgrading from their old terrible hard drive to a new ssd

The best real world example I've seen of SSD vs. HDD is when my friend and I played Borderlands 2 recently with me running on a hard drive and him having a newer SSD. At the loading screens between areas he would load a good ~30-40 seconds faster than I did every time. Even though I'm on an almost 6 year old machine at this point it still drove the difference home.

Thanks to my Samsung Evo SSD, my laptop boots in 8 seconds.

@LETHALF90

8 жыл бұрын

Bull.

@asdfasdf4345artsdfg

8 жыл бұрын

Medo Gabr Would I lie just to appease people? It boots in 8 seconds... is there anything else you want me to say? I'm running Mac OS X, so that's why it boots up so quickly. Maybe you're used to how inefficient Windows is.

@LETHALF90

8 жыл бұрын

+maccollectorZ (Commenting Account) lol sorry that was my friend i didnt do that. Thats nice tho. Btw i only use mac os x i hate windows 10. I rarely use it but when i do its only for gaming as mac library is very small. Also mac os x will not make your build any faster that depends on your hardware.

@asdfasdf4345artsdfg

8 жыл бұрын

Medo Gabr I put both Windows 7 and Mavericks on the same machine; it was much faster with Mavericks. In fact, it was amazingly fast for a Core 2 Duo machine.

@Giovannithegamepro

8 жыл бұрын

+Medo Gabr i just put a 250gb 850 evo in my PC. He's not lying, that thing is fast !

Still using an HDD boot drive with great hardware! It's my biggest bottleneck!

@ThoolooExpress

5 жыл бұрын

When this video came out, that was understandable... but it's been 5 years man... If you can afford "great hardware", you can afford a proper nvme drive lmao

@phongnguyenviet474

4 жыл бұрын

Same, just got a cheap 120gb ssd to save my life.

Hey how did you mount that radiator? I have a different test bench and cannot find a fancy way to mount one.

NOOB QUESTION Folks: If I have photoshop and maybe a game I use alot and therefore want it to operate faster do I have to put it on the SSD? If so how do I do that? Just move everything over to that drive?

I'm sold on SSDs.

once you go SSD you'll never go back to a HDD as C drive its not just boot times everything is faster

great video on showing the difference that out shined the hdd and what a ssd can handle! thumbs up!

So question .. What the best way to clean up a system or a ssd or a hdd of all the left over junk from upgrades and everything else.

Getting an SSD tomorrow after using an HDD my whole life

@michaelsantamaria8306

4 жыл бұрын

Lol I’m getting mine tm

@Yokeniku

4 жыл бұрын

@@michaelsantamaria8306 Got mine today hahahaha It's relatively faster I'm crying.

@michaelsantamaria8306

4 жыл бұрын

Kenneth Rae Colipapa lol nice

@Arkeologen

4 жыл бұрын

im getting one next week and never had an ssd before too, cant wait. UPDATE: I got a 480GB SSD and 16GB ram now my pc runs 10 times faster

@TheShakin99

4 жыл бұрын

yeah , it also happens to me

Linus couldn't say it better. But lets test it on my system: 4 years of mechanical engineering degree, 3 drives, win 7, win xp, + win 7 uefi, 5 partitions, less than 10% free space in total of 3tb+1tb+500gb on an Asus g73jh laptop, a freaking amount of files and programs, a a total clusterfuck with more external hardware devices. And did i mention the 3tb drive is 3.5" running through a SATA cable popping out the optical drive bay of the laptop, powered by an external PSU? Yeah. I'm waiting for it to blow up at any moment!

@Aint1S

10 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, busy much?! That's a shat ton of necessity!

@St0RM33

10 жыл бұрын

Can't help it anymore :p My PC is just a workhorse. At least i have an iphone to do the mobile stuff :) Since i'm graduating now i'll probably get a new system and put an ssd in there. Even at 500gb they are so expensive:/

@beekaynimaruichi

10 жыл бұрын

Wait, laptops have more than one sata connector? Much weirder, yours has three? And why not just use a sata to USB adapter if your to cheap to buy a real external enclosure.

@MrMega200

10 жыл бұрын

Akio Furukawa Some laptops have two HDD bays allowing you to install a second HDD or SSD if you wanted to. The third is from removing the DVD Drive and connecting the hard drive with a sata cable and external power to power it. Sure is more clumsy than using a external USB 2.0 HDD but it's a faster connection if needed. 3 Gigabits is faster than a USB 2.0 480 Megabits connection when you have a laptop that doesn't have USB 3.0 or a esata connection.

@beekaynimaruichi

10 жыл бұрын

Nick Schafer Ohhhhh, haha I didn't even think of the dvd drive connector, I thought he had to have the dvd tray open then run a cable through that. I really should wake up before writing comments...

Loved this video, would have like to see a hybrid in the mix too

By installing a SSD to my computer will my applications automatically boot up faster? Or do i need to do something in order for it to work.

I've owned 2 barracuda's. The 1TB I had lasted 3 years but got extremely slow for that last year and eventually died. I went and bought a 2TB one and it has lasted less than a year before experiencing issues. I'm convinced these are some of the worst HDDs on the market. The next build I run will be using western digital HDD combined with a 250gb SSD. Stay away from the Barracuda.

@ovennoneya8777

8 жыл бұрын

should you trust ssd boss

@carlossantana4086

8 жыл бұрын

I've had a barracuda since 2007, did you shoot yours or something?

@kj12351

8 жыл бұрын

then why not a SSHD insted?

@CanaldoZenny

5 жыл бұрын

Did you tested and verified the "age" of your Barracuda drives? Some people sell used and "restored" HDD as if they were brand new. Also, check Seagate's site for currently models. Even if it has the same storage capacity and line name, there are many "generations" and models of Seagate and Barracuda drives.

Just purchased a 240gb SSD waiting for it in the mail I'm so hyped

@johanreviews7587

7 жыл бұрын

The boot times are much faster.

@pewdiepieschur-haig1483

7 жыл бұрын

why does that matter, the guy who was trying to sell me one seemed to think boot time mattered does it at all affect performance of the game or just makes windows and games boot faster?

@xtazxvegasx

7 жыл бұрын

You're not going to get a bump to FPS with an SSD, but if you're used to a mechanical drive and you switch to an SSD, I can assure you, you won't regret it. It makes a colossal difference in how your computer performs.

@pewdiepieschur-haig1483

7 жыл бұрын

PhuchxpH they seem to be very expensive only downside to me

I'm glad you guys did a real world test cause it's hard for me to explain benefits of ssd to my friends when I clearly can't give them definitive answers lol

Can i use a 6gb/s ssd on a normal sata 3gb/s port? I think i can but i do t have dat speed of a 6gb/s ssd right?

So should it buy a ssd now and a hdd later for my build??

@xXFreeGamesXx

9 жыл бұрын

Ningamer X yes or just get both since hard drive are pretty cheap

@Tate525

9 жыл бұрын

King Brad your best option is to buy SSD first it will make just about every other thing fast in your build, buy HDD later unless you need more than 1TB of storage

@Tate525

9 жыл бұрын

***** damn, forgot to mention "Build"..

@xXBrownySnipezXx

9 жыл бұрын

Ningamer X Depends on how much space you need. Most users get a ssd for the operating system and a mechanical drive for storage. Unless you have a large budget by all means get the biggest ssd you can buy they are vastly superior to mechanical drives in speed and reliability..

@HigdonLuke

9 жыл бұрын

Ningamer X I agree get the biggest SSD you can afford for the OS and applications and games and a HDD for storage of the rest of your files. However, even though people see that SSD's don't have a mechanical part and should therefore be more reliable, I have in practice seen many a SSD fail. So be careful SSD's can fail too. Surprisingly to my company and my administrator we have seen more SSD's fail which is kinda a big bummer bc I love them.

do a defrag...

Right, so I've just ordered a new SSD (Samsung 840 EVO 240GB) and I'm planning to install a fresh new copy of Windows 7 onto it. BUT I have a 3TB hard drive with ALL my stuff on it (Steam games, OS, Software) and there's about 800GB left, so I clearly won't be able to copy everything onto the SSD and that's a lot of stuff to lose. I need to know how to uninstall Windows 7 completely from the HDD without completely formatting it. Any help would be appreciated, thanks!

So when i buy an ssd i should plug it into the sata lll plug or the m.2 or sata express or what? I am really confused here...

So a new SSD vs an old HDD wtf?

@Rhys-gv3ir

6 жыл бұрын

SacreDro well, realistic scenario...??? I have an old hdd but I’m getting new ssd

@JoshuaKisb

5 жыл бұрын

a more realistic scenario. i have an old hdd and want to decide whether to get an ssd or buy a new hdd

@BlackieNuff

4 жыл бұрын

Right? Kind of a fucked up comparison - like pitting a high school nerd who is failing gym class up against an experience professional athlete in an endurance competition... yeah, that's fair.

@itskdog

4 жыл бұрын

@@BlackieNuff it's testing to see how it fares if you were to upgrade and clone your existing OS full of stuff over, not just starting from scratch with a fresh install.

@kartheekketha6537

3 жыл бұрын

Yup

can you have both in the same computer?

@jhmonti007

7 жыл бұрын

yes

@Bidwellz9

7 жыл бұрын

OS on ssd, depending on size even a few favorite games.... Storage on hdd

hey Linus where did you get that motherboard bench

Nice info. THX

They used the old drive and not a cloned New HDD so that they could compare what a HDD is like after years of use. They even explained this in the beginning of the video.

@abuttandahalf

9 жыл бұрын

insainllama yes, because they want to show the difference after an upgrade in a worst case scenario.

@Wilvin

9 жыл бұрын

insainllama We know that, but still would have been more fair to include a new HDD as well to see if the difference between upgrade to a new SSD is worth the price and performance difference over upgrading to a new, modern HDD or even a SSHD.

So the only way to counter a slow HDD is to get a new one every month? Lmao

@PurpleHeartVR

7 жыл бұрын

Or do raid.

Awesome video guys :)

really cool video!!

RIP Spock

2019 ?

@andrewfern7625

3 жыл бұрын

2021 hombre

this was an awesome test, loved it, you should do something similar with different browsers, see how bad they get over time :/

hi what is the best benchmarking tool for the entire PC like for CPU, GPU, HDD and all the other components of the PC

Why not clone the contents of the old drive to a New HDD as well the New SSD so it'll be a fair test

@potatoonastick2239

8 жыл бұрын

The point of this video is also to show that if you have a old HDD, with maybe around 5 years of usage, is it worth it to buy a new SSD? That's why they compared a old HDD to a new SSD, not new HDD to new SSD.

@BlackieNuff

4 жыл бұрын

How can they win through SSD bias if they actually do a fair comparison? LOL.

@BlackieNuff

4 жыл бұрын

@ Potato Seems kind of moot - new vs old is kind of a no-brainer ; if you have ANY kind of old drive, then naturally a newer one is gonna perform better. The real test should have been just plain HDD vs SSD, both drives of equal age and use (and other parameters/factors, like capacity), for measuring performance and other practical applications. This biased comparison could confuse a novice or n00b and dupe them into going SSD when in fact their situation might be better off by staying with HDD - even if it's a 5yr old HDD.

Intel 730 or Samsung 850 PRO?

@santiagoponcedeleon4062

8 жыл бұрын

Intel 730 ☝️

@arcticroseskull1944

8 жыл бұрын

Santiago Ponce de León Thanks bro

@christianbass10

8 жыл бұрын

+Santiago Ponce de León how bout the BX100 of crucial?

@santiagoponcedeleon4062

8 жыл бұрын

Its a great drive for the price but it could break in one of two years.If you Raid 10 it then GREAT but if you want it for the OS and you use another drive for games,files,etc JUST buy IT

@4kingfreeno

8 жыл бұрын

Intel bro. they work great and last long, I have a x25m since 2010 no problems ever

great video, guys!

For the first build I'm doing (applications such as Photoshop, Digital Audio Workstations, video editing, etc...), I'm planning to get a 1tb WD Black and a 120 SSD (to open up the programs and OS). Is this the most efficient way to get the best of both sides?

I know it may sound a little stupid, but there are cases where games do run better with SSDs. A couple years back, i was playing batman arkham city, installed on a hdd, as i progress through the city at a fast pace, the fps would suddenly drop, id then notice my HDD light flashing its ass off and my GPU usage dip in MSI afterburner. Loading huge amounts of data during a level can affect game play to an extent, espcially todays games that are huge 30gb files. Another similar scenario is GTA san andreas back in the old days, for people who used to play it on PS2, driving really fast down the road would blur the whole world, and would take 1 minute to load a building once at a complete stop cause the DVD drive couldnt keep up with the rest of the hardware. You could literally hear the laser moving back and forth.

@taiiat0

10 жыл бұрын

SSD's always result in games running better, unless the game precaches everything while in the hardloading screen (nobody does this anymore :/), which then only the hardloading screen will be longer, and in gameplay would be the exact same 0 loading. and if a game is 30Gigs, it's not all one file. it's split up across some number of files, which certainly helps loading to some degree. so you're right, but you're 'righter' than you think you are.

@BNR_248

10 жыл бұрын

***** Yep 100% spot on. Pretty sure consoles still use Shader warming to take some load off the gpu, resulting in a longer hardload screen.

@Icathiann

10 жыл бұрын

Games that have assets constantly being loaded will be way smoother in a SSD. Diablo 3 is a good example of that, bad stuttering in a HDD every couple secs, butter smooth in a ssd.

@atomik_bernie2190

6 жыл бұрын

I love this comment, says Huge 30 GB files. games nowadays are around 60-100 GB. I know this is a 3 year old comment but it still is funny. but no matter, you are still correct

I wonder... How much would it improve the HD's performance if you were to defrag it?

@GrulbGL

9 жыл бұрын

Ray Drouillard a bit... but in some cases, a bit more than the previous "bit"...i will take a SSD, my laptop and i want one, you should take some money to take one too...

@definallynothunter490

9 жыл бұрын

I defrayed my SSD, now it is 1000x faster!

@RayDrouillard

9 жыл бұрын

Faze Hunter For the sarcasm challenged, we need to note that defragging will have no effect on the speed of an SSD. It can have a huge effect on an HDD, though.

@definallynothunter490

9 жыл бұрын

Ur wrong! SSD's are hard too!

@lelcetz7628

9 жыл бұрын

Faze Hunter if you defrag a SSD, it breaks faster.

what about the extra wear and tear on the hdd after all those years of use?

We need more crazy tests like this :o With all the hardware you guys have lying around I'm sure you could come up with some cool tests. For instance, I'd love to see a test on positive/negative air pressure :o Find a couple cases, put some hardware in it, make sure to match the brand and number of fans, make one case have more air intake and the other have more exhaust. Put those two cases in the garage for a couple week, check for dust, compare.