I put them on my 170 lb e-dirtbike, running 220mm rotors. They work great, feel great. The modulation is perfect, with plenty of stopping power. They ate-up the organic pads really fast. But the metallic ones are holding up nicely. I did have to pay attention to make sure the lever was fully bled.

Awesome video can't wait to see the long term review.

@EMTBReview

5 ай бұрын

Coming soon! Many rides in and going very strong

I’ve heard of people complaining of hand fatigue with these brakes.

I’m so glad you got your hands on them. Unbiased and keeping it 💯 compare to the rest of KZreadrs. Keep up the work!

@EMTBReview

5 ай бұрын

I appreciate that!

@rafakwiatkowski7907

4 ай бұрын

Love your content. Are you going to review Orbea Wild? I’m interested what you think about that bike.

@KurtRWalker

4 ай бұрын

@@rafakwiatkowski7907 I would like too since that is next on my list after my Rise but I need another bike. and thinking maybe a Relay for flights since that wont work w the Rise/Wild.

Great review. Thank you 👍🏼

@EMTBReview

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Had a chance to play with an installed set of Maven Ultimate Expert brakes yesterday. Totally agree with you about the too heavy return spring feeling in the levers. Made me stick with the Code RS brakes on my Levo SL for my cross-country/trail/bike park riding needs. Otherwise, if I had a heavier full-powered e-bike, I might give the Mavens a go.

@EMTBReview

5 ай бұрын

Right on. This is for big bikes and big terrain

Great review, thanks Francis!

@EMTBReview

5 ай бұрын

My pleasure! What is your favorite break setup these days?

@amir_mtb

5 ай бұрын

@@EMTBReview I run Codes on all my MTBs (Tallboy, Enduro, and Kenevo SL) so I have consistency, and also I always want the most power don't care about a few extra grams. Which is why this review and the Maven is even more interesting (if I switch and like it, I switch all my bikes). TBH I don't feel I lack braking power with the Code, but honestly that's how I felt about 200mm rotors until I tried 220mm rotors...

@KurtRWalker

4 ай бұрын

@@amir_mtb Dont like the Hayes Dominion?

@amir_mtb

4 ай бұрын

@@KurtRWalker never tried them. They could be great, maybe better than Codes, BUT: (1) Codes do the job for me, and I'm used to them in all situations, and (2) I run the codes on all my MTBs (enduro, ebike, and trail) and I like to have a consistent brake no matter which bike I ride, since sometimes the trail bike will go where the Enduro usually goes. So if I swap brakes, it will eventually have to be on all bikes.

Awesome review, really the added value was your own opinion and added knowledge facts. Subscribing to your content. Thanks!

@EMTBReview

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the sub! Will do long term updates on this

Just got a rear bronze maven! Is it just slightly less quality materials, but still same overall performance? I really like these brakes and I’m trying a rear first… but thought $180 was more reasonable than the $300 Ultimates 🤷‍♂️ Awesome review and video! Thank you! Also, pairing this with a brand new continental Kryptotal rear DH tire! 💪🏼

i like the look with those big bolts . it's implies a sense of strength .

@EMTBReview

4 ай бұрын

Same. I kinda like the industrial look on this one.

They look awesome if you ask me :-) In my Rail 7 I have the DB8 which is fine. No issues and I like stiffer lever feeling. Maybe this is similar feeling because of the mineral oil. It would be nice to test for sure. In my other bike I have the G2 Ultimate and they are for winter rides. The biggest issue in the G2 is snow melting on top of the caliber and pads freezing to stuck! Maven looks more closed and it would be nice to see some extreme testing in cold and snow. For sure SRAM is welcome to send me one set so I'll put some extreme cold testing on next winter. LOL!

I bought these a few months ago and have them on my eMTB RS75 Crestline-8/7.5" travel monster truck. I ride in the PNW and trails here are steep. I've ridden on SRAM brakes for past ten years. I agree with all your points. These brakes are a game changer for sure. I keep the pad bite points super close which I felt helped reduce the force needed on the lever. Would like to see a slightly lighter lever feel revision in the future... I did need to bleed them a few times after install to get them dialed. Not uncommon after setting up new brakes though. Getting a random weird resonance climbing lately which is odd. Going to re-bleed them and see if that helps. BTW SRAM recommends every two year fluid change which is a year longer than the Codes and most other brake manufactures. My GF just bought the Heckler SL in that same silver color. Sweet bike! Rip it up Francis!

@EMTBReview

3 ай бұрын

Exactly!!!!!!!!! So good but stiff dead stroke and floaty bite point. On the long steeps, all is forgiven since there is nothing like it

I like them. They remind me of the brembos on my sti lol. Exited to give them a try

@EMTBReview

5 ай бұрын

I think you'll be pleased. Gold Brembos on a blue STI? Legend!

@carterschichtel9678

5 ай бұрын

@@EMTBReview Yupper! 05 wrb I wish they made mtb brakes

thanks for the review! i wonder if they changed the piston seal rubber also. i find this was the main issue on codes va dominion and others. dominion is dot5 and lasts forever too , but their seals dont get eaten up by the dot fluid like the sram ones do . all the sram and guides always gave black stuff when you service even after just a few months of riding (its the seal rubber going away)

@EMTBReview

5 ай бұрын

Definitely they changed the seals. That's a big part of their R&D to improve longevity and consistency.

@KurtRWalker

4 ай бұрын

I have had Hayes seals, feel last for years in the hot Vegas garage whereas many other brands cant go more than 6 months. Hayes has always seemed dependable to me, thinking about some Dominions on my next bikes

are you running sintered or organics? i run code rsc 200/200 mtx red. i have the ltd pkg not installed yet. debating going 200/180 staying sintered. front range colorado. aggressive trail with some enduro racing in summer and dh park laps.

the calipers look liek the cheap caliper covers that dudes use to make their brakes look bigger on cars.

@EMTBReview

5 ай бұрын

It doesn't score high on the sculpted caliper department. They did a good job though packaging that much hardware in an 'industrial' looking style.

Getting the A4s over the Mavens.

I hate guides and codes. I pull them off on every bike I get and just sell them before they become a problem, because I have had them enough times to know they will. I wonder how easy the new Mavens are to live with. My favourite brake is dominion A4 but I am missing good options for mounting shifter properly to the brake. It's fine for my DH rig but for a trailbike I need the shifter to be in a perfect spot. It's easier to fit the dropper well on the dominions for some reason. The hydroscopic nature of DOT is a feature, not a bug. Servicing your brakes once per year is fine. I don't mind Shimano brakes but dominions are simply just better in every way except integration. If Mavens are trouble free in the sense that they wont have all the annoying quirks with sticking pistons and sticking levers maybe the Mavens will actually come out on top vs Shimano. Time will tell.

@EMTBReview

5 ай бұрын

Dominion A4 is an eye-opener for sure. Gobs of power, so easy to modulate with little hand effort. And similar lever shape to SRAM

I'm heavy, and I'm happy with my code r on all my bikes. I'm curious if there is any fading over a super steep, super long section. Do they feel like codes as far as modulation?

@EMTBReview

5 ай бұрын

No fade that we could notice. And modulation feels like codes, just a lot less hand effort.

😮👌🏻💯

@EMTBReview

5 ай бұрын

Just keeping it one hundred

Their specification for the brake oil to be used isn't that suprising for cars this is standard. Engine oil has to meet certain standards, mixing it isn't difficult but that it could be used by car workshops it has to be certified for each brand specifically. This is why on oil canisters you could find that it's for BMW or so on, basically it work fine with other brands they just didn't certify them because it is expensive.

@EMTBReview

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info! Great insight

Everyones talks about braking power, yes that's just the force you need to apply on the lever, that's the most overused myth in the bike industry, tires and traction are the limiting factors of stopping distance, if you don't experience fade or are craving for lower lever effort you don't need bigger or stronger brakes...

@EMTBReview

5 ай бұрын

Braking power is not the effort force applied at the lever. Brakes are a combination of many parts and all work in conjunction to stop the bike. Some elements are: - force of the pistons on the rotor - effort required at the lever - heat generated by the system - amount of traction availalbe. So they all work in concert with each other and the weak links have to be optimized to stop the bike. The biggest factor of all is braking power - aka, how much force can the brake apply to the rotor and wheel.

Someone tell that man that break performance depends on the force applied and has nothing to do with piston size. However, thermal management is dependent on the size and mass. One of the reasons Shimano have ceramic pistons is to isolate heat in the rotor and pads. Nobody can beat Shimano Saint by their tremendous on/off break force, even on smaller piston sizes. The idea of keeping callipers hot to maintain break performance is still being unclear to me because it might work with metallic pads, but resin pads have the same performance in hot or cold conditions.

@EMTBReview

5 ай бұрын

Nothing to do with piston size.... Nothing can be further from the truth as it is the most crucial element of all. Size of piston and number of pistons. Other elements are key to a brake system of course and each has to support the other and not create any weak links. Saints set the standard a decade ago. But we are entering another level of power and braking demands. Yes, temperature levels are interesting. Some level of heat is required for peak performance but it really is not easy to maintain that heat level with dozens of variables for each rider and terrain type. They're taking the first step by saying read the rotor discoloration and don't just pursue the biggest rotors available.

What about magura MT7

@EMTBReview

4 ай бұрын

This is quite a bit more powerful and a bit easier to maintain. Maguras are very good when dialed but contact point is rarely symmetrical between levers and the pads are always dragging.

@porroco

4 ай бұрын

@@EMTBReview hope magura comes with a new brake too. Mt7 are not emtb specific brakes.

Saint vs maven

I dont know why people keep syaing that DOT can destroy seals and mineral oil is better. This is wrong, there's a reason why racing cars, bikes and any high performance vehicles uses DOT 5.1 fluid. They're just better and last longer.

@EMTBReview

5 ай бұрын

It's a harsher chemical for sure it's bad for paint, skin, and some rubber seals. Also, it attracts water so the fluid will be contaminated for sure after a few years if not serviced.

@RyuMoto

5 ай бұрын

The main advantage of DOT fluid is a higher boiling point. Modern brakes no longer get that hot so the compromise of better hydrophobic qualities of mineral oil is worth it. I run Motul 660 in my track car but it's a pain to swap fluids often but I have no other choice cuz I need the higher boiling point.

@drone_tech_review

5 ай бұрын

@@RyuMoto great reply and insight. Yes, we're aware of the higher boiling point of Dot fluid but it really doesn't seem to be a factor anymore in modern brakes. Plus, when Dot 4 is contaminated with water (often the case), its boiling point drops below that of mineral oil

@phildattilo8598

4 ай бұрын

Majority of mountain bikers prefer mineral oil brand brakes. They are better hands down.

@phildattilo8598

4 ай бұрын

Dot fluid brakes suck. I don’t know if it’s a brand thing, but mineral oil brake brands are so much stronger & more reliable when it comes to mtb