I’m a THFC fan and go to as many games as possible. This “hype” is completely media driven. I don’t know a single fan who expects us to win the league. But, there is a feel around the club that is both positive and progressive. All of this “cockyness” isn’t the fans. It’s the media stirring the same agenda.

@BaM-qe3xp

8 ай бұрын

100% this, i haven't seen one spurs fan say we're winning the league apart from in jest incredible how this narrative keeps coming up

@nelly4351

8 ай бұрын

I've heard spurs fans say the league is guaranteed. I mean how? You finished mid table last season and now you've won a few games you think you'll piss the league. Chill out for fucks sake 😂

@rezhaej7911

8 ай бұрын

​@@nelly4351probably you just got trolled

@BaM-qe3xp

8 ай бұрын

@@nelly4351 I highly doubt you have read that but ok, ain't nobody winning the league apart from city ain't nobody remotely close to city's level

@2talljoey

8 ай бұрын

@@nelly4351no you haven’t. You’ve seen a couple excited 12 year olds on social media. Go outside and talk to real people.

The irony in an Arsenal fan telling another team it’s fans are getting carried away after a good little stretch is Hilo

@schrodickerLee

8 ай бұрын

The insane thing here is that both teams are top of the league but for Spurs it's "they cannot last the entire season" and for Arsenal it's "they can win the league". But I'mma be honest here I don't see anything that Arsenal has done that have made them look a lot more impressive than Spurs this season. Like are Arsenal perfect? Are they flawless? No, not at all. In fact they've shown that they can drop games to teams below them like Lens and have weaknesses that teams can actually exploit. The only thing going for them is that Arsenal has better squad depth but then again do they? Kai Havertz, Jorginho on the bench and an injured Timber is good squad depth, really? Besides that, all Arsenal really have on the bench is a bunch of City, Chelsea and Brighton rejects but people pretend like they're not washed cause they're playing for Arsenal now. I really think pundits, media, content creators and Arsenal fans themselves are blinded by what Arsenal did last season and overrate this team way too much. As someone who's viewing things from a third person perspective, I can definitely look at things a lot clearer and honestly tell you that the gap between Arsenal and Spurs really don't seem as wide as people want you to believe it is considering that this is Spurs' first year of rebuilding their team while this is already Arteta's fifth year.

Bent is unashamedly ridiculously biased about Arsenal! He cant be neutral about his opinions.

Bent is literally describing himself from last season, what a hypocrite lmao

@theblackswordsman9951

8 ай бұрын

No, Bent was always measured last season.

@Gagefelstead

8 ай бұрын

@@theblackswordsman9951 The majority of Arsenal fans weren't though. Beyond belief how good they thought they were

@theblackswordsman9951

8 ай бұрын

@@Gagefelstead No, most Arsenal fans didn't think they were in a title challenge till after the world cup last year. It was the media that were saying they were.

Bent is still pissed at spurs because Harry’s misses was a better striker than he was.

@UncleRuckus_96

8 ай бұрын

Because he knows it’s the truth

@flexkorasaki5128

8 ай бұрын

He was definitely the shytest striker Spurs is ever had. Even HR said his grandmother is better than him.

@matthewnicholas6365

8 ай бұрын

​@flexkorasaki5128 you obviously didn't see Frazier Campbell, Gerogor Rasiak, Victor Jansen, even Roberto Soldado was worse than Bent. I never realised at the time though what a Spurs hating gooner ***t he is though. I'd have passed on him entirely if I was a coach/Levy when the chance came up. He's just mugged off Spurs fans for being a bit quiet last year. Last year is the only year Arsenal finished above is in SEVEN years.

Without Spurs he would never have won a domestic cup in England- now he’s slagging off us fans! Nice!

@thunderjoy7250

8 ай бұрын

I'm sure spurs fans have never slagged of Darren bent 😂😂😂😂

@charliecruickshank9464

8 ай бұрын

@@thunderjoy7250 Never slagged him off ever!

@masterpee2328

8 ай бұрын

Saying you would finish in the top 4 is a complement.

@charliecruickshank9464

8 ай бұрын

@@masterpee2328 😴

@ronanh13

8 ай бұрын

I don't think he was slagging you off tbf

Tottenham fans are happy with the football they’re seeing and that they are currently top of the table. After a full summer of everyone saying Ange is a joke appointment and Spurs will get relegated after losing Kane. Darren Bent: “calm down, you’re chirping too much”

Tell you what it is Benty. As a Spurs fan, we sit by and listen to shocking comments from ‘pundits’ like you and Merse telling us we’ll finish outside the top 8. So when we come out and prove you wrong it’s a lovely feeling. Absolutely no Spurs fans are gassing us up, we are just enjoying it! Worry about your boys mate, they have all the pressure on them.

@jhonb2556

8 ай бұрын

This .

@orinorio1

8 ай бұрын

Benty Mers and co all show that they are clueless about football. They just follow the trend. Say what ever the trend is. I like watching Dawson on Sky. Last week he sat with a smile. I think he is the only pundit who said Spurs would challenge for the top 4 this season and Kane wasn't a major lost or as bad as everyone made it out to be.

I used to like Darren , the last couple of years he completely bleed Arsenal….. Who saw his combined 11 for spurs v Arsenal ? Wonder if that differs now … Not one Spurs fan including myself thinks we will win the league, just let us be happy with how things are going atm aha after the last few years of dissatisfaction ,COYS 💪🏼

Spurs have finished above Arsenal 6 out of the last 7 years

@paulmartin9194

8 ай бұрын

Yet won nothing

@donone352

8 ай бұрын

Arsenal won 4 Fa cups, What did Tottenham win during that period????. 😂😂😂

@markjeffers4663

8 ай бұрын

Spurs think they get a trophy for finishing ahead of arsenal ffs how many times in the premier league era have they did it also in that time compare what each of the two clubs have won spurs will always be a small London club with a nice stadium and no trophies they will never be as big as the gunners

@LeoBov1

8 ай бұрын

Lol this is so irrelevant, do you get a reward for that? Arsenal still won trophies during that period 😂

@markjeffers4663

8 ай бұрын

Arsenal will always be the biggest club in London west ham won a trophy last season when was the last time a spurs fan could say that

Literally 90+% of tottenham fans at all are saying we're challenging for the league, literally taking a game at a time and enjoying our football

Who cares what bent says!! Hes still pissed off cus we celebrated him leaving spurs, especially after all the open goals he missed from 6yards out!!! Even Harry ripped into him for one specular miss!!

As a Tottenham fan, we all know it’s unlikely that we’re gonna win the league. But just a small possibility of us winning it is our rival fans’ worst nightmare. And we’re enjoying that.

@indianastones6032

8 ай бұрын

Hes crushing peoples little bit of hope cus he can see that Spurs are drastically improving!

@Corporateconcrete

8 ай бұрын

Everyone knows there's isn't one iota of spurs winning the legaue, it's literally *za histowy ov za tottnam".

@bobp4

8 ай бұрын

Yep, they're all in panic mode right now

@Ayah_Mia

8 ай бұрын

​@@bobp4😂😂😂😂... Dare to win nothing 😂😂

@4haelli

8 ай бұрын

Why not? Why so negative?

I'm a Spurs fans for 43yrs n frankly is nvr easy to be a Spurs fans the last 20 over yrs. We Spurs fans r nvr cocky. We know how disappointment feel like after all this yrs so we r nvr cocky. We r just happy and enjoying this moment when we r playing well. That is all....nvr cocky..we are also realistic that we can't win the league bec our squad depth is not gd enough compare to MC n Liverpool. To get top 4 with the way we r playing at the moment is what we really want but if we really win the league then is all a bonus. So I hope all this pundits stop putting words into Spurs n it fans.

@Corporateconcrete

8 ай бұрын

Compared to only man city or Liverpool?, who has better squad depth between arsenal and Liverpool?, you just don't have the stomach to say it.

@davidtan4188

8 ай бұрын

@@Corporateconcrete lol....Gooner will always be a Gooner...do u think u can win the league this yr or it will be the same like last yr🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Corporateconcrete

8 ай бұрын

@@davidtan4188 Notice how the question got swerved?!! 🤭🤫 and atleast you can't put "last 62 years" in your sentence 🤣🤣😂😂

@joe883

8 ай бұрын

Never cocky 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@peaceakhigbe9084

8 ай бұрын

@@Corporateconcretethat’s what they always do, deviate from the initial question

Bent before season: Spurs are relegated without Kane. Bent in October: don't get carried away!

There really are not many spurs fans who think they are going to win the league. The media love for fans to hate…. The more fan on fan hate the better for them. As far as I am concerned for the good of the league let’s hope a team other than city can win. Not that I dislike city, I just don’t want our league to be a forgone conclusion every year.

he will always be remembered for one of the greatest misses of all time he's just bitter that he never made the grade😴

@superflyjimmysnucka9068

8 ай бұрын

And then he started sulking when Harry said his Mrs could have scored that!😂😂

Rich coming from an Arsenal fan, some still think they won the league last year

It’s everyone else getting carried away,not the spurs fans

Unbelievable to think he played for Spurs. Not sure what happened to him there but he's got more chips on his shoulders than Harry ramsden

For a ex spurs player who's one of the worse strikers we have had so it works both ways.

@thelegendthatischels

8 ай бұрын

Darren bent wasn't even close to being your worst striker, you've been blinded by Harry redknapps comment about my wife could have scored that. He's not even top 10 worst

@ZaineKnight

8 ай бұрын

Go on benty The truth hurts 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@OldSchoolBoxing1

8 ай бұрын

​@@thelegendthatischelsdid you watch Spurs week in week out at the time? He was crap.

@daviddulom8258

8 ай бұрын

​@@thelegendthatischelshe was 😅

@jbo4547

8 ай бұрын

One of the worst we've had? That is utter nonsense

Bent's 2 friends who support Spurs have given him a bit of banter and now he is claiming the whole fan base are expecting to win the title 😂 I don't know a single Spurs fan who think we are title contenders. We are all enjoying the ride until the inevitable happens.

@deloford

8 ай бұрын

Exactly, his mates must love winding him up, love it

I’m a lifelong spurs fan and 99% of us genuinely know we’re not winning the league this season 😂👍 COYS!!! I read somewhere that 5th is enough for CL this season so I’d take that now tbh after the last couple of seasons we’ve had of fossil football. Sandra needs to shut up and hope his beloved varsenal don’t bottle it again

I understand playing for Spurs as an Arsenal fan and vice versa, but the over the top Arsenal fan act from Bent is what's truly annoying. If you were that big fan, you'd never have signed for Spurs.

Bitter Bent. Still triggered by Harry saying his Sandra could've finished the chances Darren missed. Probably the worst striker to have come to the club as long as I've followed them.

@indianastones6032

8 ай бұрын

Hes one of the worst and ive seen some really poor players in my time as a spurs fan!!

They chirp at Darren Bent because he is an absolute pillock

@KS-xj7ux

8 ай бұрын

No doubt about that

Arsenal fans are the worst. They rated Arteta as top 3 coach in the world, although he haven't won big trophy. They rated Saliba as the best although there are better defender like Dias, Van Dijk, Romero. They said Ramsadale is rhe best but thier own coach didn't trust him. They said Odegard is better than De Bruyne. They claim Arteta is even better than Klopp. They said Partey is better than Rodri.

@joefernandes4256

8 ай бұрын

All that u mentioned is just u

@0tipp

8 ай бұрын

I stopped at Romero. 😂 lmao what a load of shite

@TheJohnCooperShow

8 ай бұрын

@@0tippRomero is better than saliba

@AbdulkadirHassan91

8 ай бұрын

Romero 🤣

@0tipp

8 ай бұрын

@@TheJohnCooperShow Romero is no better than Mustafi let alone the best CB in the world

Says the person who picked all Arsenal players for Spurs-Arsenal combined 11.

I think Bent needs to remember he played for Tottenham once upon a time

@eldante4139

8 ай бұрын

So did Jason Cundy. Will rarely get a positive word about Spurs out of either.

@dannymcardle4754

8 ай бұрын

@@eldante4139 Just makes me laugh mate I bet they won’t both complaining to much when they picked up there weekly wages at Tottenham back in the day

@Antec76

8 ай бұрын

@@eldante4139but Cundy actually played for the club he supports, Chelsea. Bent never played tor Arsenal

@superflyjimmysnucka9068

8 ай бұрын

I'd try and forget that myself to be fair 😂😂😂

Not sure why bent is so determined to make out like spurs fans think they're going to win the league, I don't know one spurs fan that thinks they will. Not sure where he's pulling all this from, he's obviously upset about the positive press Tottenham have been getting lately

@rezhaej7911

8 ай бұрын

probably from youtube comment

Darren’s surname reminds me of his footballing ability at the top level of football

We're in everyone's heads. We've got everybody rattled. Obviously when we all talk about being top and winning the league it's all tongue and cheek from our fans. It's kind of a joke because even most of us are surprised to be where we are. We are very self aware that we aren't going to win the league but we're having some fun when things are going well. The fact they need to bring up on air how we're talking ourselves up is a prime example of us being under their skin. They don't like seeing us top of the league and are easily wound up about it

Pity I am not allowed to say what I think of Bent I would get banned. COYS

@suesmith3744

8 ай бұрын

Say it Roy say it 🤣‼️

@PerfectMask1

8 ай бұрын

Go on be brave 😅

@indianastones6032

8 ай бұрын

Do it!! Do it!! Do it!! Haha

Bent still hasn’t got over when redknapp said his wife could’ve scored the open goal header

@indianastones6032

8 ай бұрын

That remark really cut him deep, didnt it??!haha!

@KS-xj7ux

8 ай бұрын

Bent is oversensitive and gets defensive on almost anyhting, easily triggered

Conte, Jose all also won the league in their first seasons at Chelsea 🤷‍♂️

@parklane8315

8 ай бұрын

you mean BROUGHT the league title 🥱😴

@LeoBov1

8 ай бұрын

@@parklane8315 I’m not sure I understand your comment 🤷‍♂️

Doesn't this guy support the same team that is acting like they won the treble after they beat City 😂

Darren Bent/Worst/Tottenham all in the same sentence!!! yep I see what he did there.

For those who saw the Klopp pre match interview it was clear that he was very nervous about taking on Tottenham if he was anxious I wonder how the other managers are feeling right now . ? Shaking in their boots , to be sure .

@Surveillance-Ys

8 ай бұрын

Even at 10 men Liverpool looked the better team. Spurs are lucky.

An arsenal fan complaining about another fan base being too big for there boots is so dumb

All that talk but the only trophy 🏆 he won in his career was with Spurs. On top of that he played for us but is supposedly a “gooner” through and through, have a day off Darren. It’s the media that are pushing the narrative about us being title contenders, we are just enjoying the ride. Never thought I’d find myself agreeing with Andy Goldstein.

Thing is Bent never got over the fact thst he was absolutely useless at Tottenham. We bought him and he just wasn't any good. I don't think he's ever got over that really.

At one time I liked Bent. To see his bitterness and hatred for a club that payed his wages is disgusting.

Sandra Redknapp > Darren Bent

I’m Spurs and I definitely do not expect to win the League.

Harry Redknapp’s mum is a better goal scorer than Darren Bent, I bet she’s a better pundit as well.

Hilarious of Goldstein to defend spurs fans enjoying top… when he mocked arsenal fans for enjoying being top for far longer… this is the typical double standard.

No Darren. Arsenal fans are the worst.

It is not 10 out of 10. At most we are about 7 out of 10. The next 5 games will determin if it will be a 9 out of 10. Win those and they will be heading into the Man City away match with a real chance of being well inside the top 4 come January. Then Spurs will do business in the tranfer window and Postacoglou will get in a few players to add to the mix. His systems are what Spurs fans want to watch. The idea Spurs were a one man team was never true. There always has to be a spine. My favourite mantra I've heard is, "When in doubt go forward." Even Man City can be made to look ordinary if their best few players are absent.

Wise words from a legend of the game , no one ever chirped up for him

As a city fan. SPURS have always been comical to me. Always beating but never winning anything. Now, if they're contending for the title, i will now have to start hating them. I hate United, Liverpool, Varsnal and Yeovil Town. There is so much hate and now i have to hate Spurs.

Spurs fan and I _don’t_ expect to be top 4 end of the season. Bench is too skinny.

Darren Bent was one of the worst strikers we had.

No Spurs fan thinks we'll win it - not one! All of this is being stirred up by the media who can't wait to shout "SPURSY" as soon as we lose a game! We're just enjoying watching good football again, seeing where that takes us and enjoying seeing literally everyone else get wound up by us along the way!

They've not had much to shout about for quite a while so let them crow imo. Enjoy the season & whatever happens happens.

Spurs fans reaction is unreal, they witness their team playing great football, players rejuvenated, great team unity, winning and top of the league but a lot of them have suffered so much misery they refuse to go all in and say they will win it, it's hilarious 😂. I've followed Ange since he helped my home team Brisbane Roar, he only wants to win, so I'm quietly confident they can win it, conditional to being injury free and strengthen in the transfer window.

Goldstein’s the worst kind of self entitled football fan. A Londoner who supports Manchester United just because they were successful when he was young. Now they’re garbage, he tries to belittle and bully genuine fans of clubs doing well

Yeah, Spurs fans pick combined north london 11s with all our players. Oh no, that's what Keown and Bent did.

Spurs fan. The only thing the Spurs fans that Daz knows are chirping about is all those messages that Daz sent out to them when Kane left saying we'd be relegated. No Spurs fan is getting carried away, feet still on the ground.

Can’t hit a barn door Bent is a typical gooner. I see a lot of excited Spurs fans, but no one is getting ahead of themselves. Why can’t we be excited after the dross of the last four years?!

What he is doing Ange is preparing the foundation in terms of moral, unity, belief, trust and believe.. for our first defeat.. so we will bounce back fast. 💪🏾

Liverpool and city imo are in the best position league wise . Liverpool by far have had the hardest run of games , whilst still being inconsistent and injuries and piss poor refereeing.

I think the PL title has a very good chance to go to North London this season .In my 60 years supporting Spurs i yearned for an Arsenal v Spurs title showdown , and this could be the time for it .

Wouldn’t say 50/50 with spurs fans on Ange. But can guarantee all fans of Scottish teams rangers included would say he would succeed. I said he would get spurs flying, and Richarlison would be his Kyogo… until I saw son down the middle. Incredible player.

As a spurs fan I don’t expect us to win the league. It only been eight games, trust me we’re not gonna win the league we’re gonna finish 2nd or 3rd

Nobody knew Bent was an Arsenal fan until last season.

@deanlowdon8381

7 ай бұрын

Exactly, he was pretty quiet until they started doing well wasn’t he!? 😂

OUR MANAGER legit said "They can dream"...

I've been saying for weeks that Ange reminds me of Martin Jol most

I think every spurs fan knows our squad is weak but first 11 is good and we’re not in Europe so may survive with squad we’ve got till jan and then will need window to be perfect - but fact we don’t think will win league doesn’t mean can’t wind up other fans if can see their biting and easy to wind up

Chelsea: 2004/05 - Jose wins double in first year. 2009/10 - Ancellotti wins double in first year. 2016/17 - Conte wins league and makes cup final.

There is not a single fan who ACTUALLY think we will win the league we are just happy we are doing well

So bitter, you love to see it 😂

My opinion is that football fans are used to the other top 5 fanbases lording it over everyone when their team is at the top. Leicester were an exception as nobody really felt like they would continue to threaten the establishment. But Spurs, who have been lurking for a while but "rightly so" not actually winning anything, are genuinely looking like they could upset the applecart. If they win, the fans of these top 5 teams, and the likes of West Ham, Villa, and Leicester, will no longer be able to instantly win any argument with "but you haven't won anything". And I think that scares them.

Spurs fans are not getting cocky. The fans are enjoying the teams football for the first time in years. They are top of the league and are rightfully upbeat and happy but not cocky.

Ange has given everyone permission to get excited.. so why not. Football is about hopes and dreams.

Lol this is exactly what we always say to Arsenal fans...

Coming from a Arsenal fan 😂😂😂😂😂

Spurs...have played 3 top teams of EPL..against MU- Refs did not give them Pen and that would have changed the game from first half to second half because they did not do a lot in the first half..Against Arsenal- for some reason, Mikel changed the tactics in the second half by subbing players and going for a draw.. if DR was injured, how the heck did he play in the following game.... Liverfool - do not have to describe anything about that game... Besides those games, in two games, they had a narrow win which involved 2 OGs against lower teams of EPL and rest of other teams were also lower ranked teams against whom they won...let's see how Spurs and Ange will do when they start playing other teams such as Brighton, Villas, New Castle, City etc...

That's rich coming from a side that acts like they won the league last year 😅😅😅

I don’t know where he’s getting this “spurs fans are chirping” from…almost every comment from a spurs fan that I’ve read shows that Spurs fans are excited but realistic. They are in a purple patch but know it’s a long season with big games to come. They are just enjoying the ride with no expectations.

Biggest disappointment on the pitch and clearly going against us using our rivals. We are a better team today because players like him are no longer at the club. COYS

It was the Spurs fans who contributed to your wages as a player Mr Bent, and like a rabid dog, this is how you turns on us, but then I suppose we shouldn't expect anything more from you based on who you support!

Bent's just upset Sandra's a better goalscorer than him

He doesn’t need to support Spurs but every time I see him it looks like he despises Spurs, which is so odd considering that he played for Spurs. Maybe it comes from his insecurity since he was such a flop at spurs…. Kinda sad

This feels like Deja Vu from Ten Hag, all the media singing his praises and do doubt we will watch them all turn on them once he has a bumpy patch like Ten Hag.

There aren’t many Spurs fans who would tell you they think they’ll win the league. And fans of all clubs are louder when they’re doing well. Arsenal fans had been quiet for years until they did better last season.

Talksport mouth says something contentious shocker.

Southern fans of Northern clubs like Man U are the worst. Let's get it right....

Harry Redknapp’s mother could pundit better than this guy.

Every Pundit who talks about Spurs have said ' I'm surprise i except Spurs to be struggling and finish 8th or lower. ' . What they have shown is that they just go with the narrative that is the trend. They don't think for themselves. Start of the season I was asked where I think Spurs will finish. My answer was top 4, If Ange can get the players playing as a team with a system that works Spurs can finish top 4. He has done this. It was never a hard job like pundits said. Any Manger who was about football and not his own ego would have done the same and have Spurs playing who they are.

Aussies in general have a winning attitude and don't tend to fear anything. Adversity and underdog status are even more of a motivator and they're not over-awed by any opponent. That wasn't Australia's best team by any stretch last night but those boys went out there to beat England or at least go down fighting and showing what they're made of. It was probably not great to watch from an England supporter's perspective, but to a neutral, the talking point of the game last night was how well a lot of the Aussies acquitted themselves. Australia will never have a Jayden Sancho. I'm sure if a lot of these boys were English, a few of them would be at bigger clubs. Ange brings that same confident attitude and can uplift the collective mentality of a bunch of players who in the past have underperformed and have been written off as a consequence. These guys truly believe in themselves again. He'll also tear them a new one if they get complacent and start doing things that aren't part of the plan.

It doesn't say many good things about Bent that he thinks fans shouldn't enjoy their club finding success. I didn't think he could be a worse pundit than he was a footballer, but here we are.

Why is it all failed ex players that come out with this rubbish. Darren did you see the Arsenal fans after the City win?

He is saying this like arsenal wasn't hyped this early last year. Like what is waffling about

@MusaOzilOfficial

8 ай бұрын

We wasn’t hyped though only by our fans. Not by media, In fact we was asked at the start of last season “who have Arsenal really played though?” Then… “let your October fixtures kick in, then we will talk in November” after Arsenal silenced rival fans with those fixtures, then… “yeah well let’s see after World Cup how you do, you’ll be dipping in form” then after silencing rival fans again for the 3rd time, we only had lost to Everton in February and City was still chasing us up until Anfield game. So we wasn’t hyped, we was constantly doubted throughout the season, and constantly asked manipulative questions. Sometimes I wish KZread had a image upload section on the comments like Twitter, just so I can show you all the screenshots of rival fans saying all that I’ve mentioned. Just so u don’t think I’m waffling

Ange intentionally keeps his distance with his players, he’s not your typical approachable manager. He does it to always choosing the best team and remove all bias of personal relationships with players

I'm not excited as such.. If we bought Toney in January then I would be.

Sharon Bent should pipe down.

For an Arsenal fan to say we're the worst is ironic

I will never know how bent got to where he did in football..

@kygodragon4782

8 ай бұрын

He kicked a football about a football pitch mate... Mystery solved.

@brianmonkey1697

8 ай бұрын

@@kygodragon4782 it’s a rhetorical question… mystery learnt.

That's a lie.. Bent has no friends...

All this when spurs lose kane they will finish 8th. That's like saying if arsenal lose saka they will finish 8th. Its crazy !!!!