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Which is the Best Class B Chassis For Camper Vans? Mercedes Sprinter, Ford Transit or Ram ProMaster? Everything you need to know before buying your first Class B RV. Buyer's Guide review at Sunshine State RVs
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KEY MOMENTS VIDEO TIMELINE👇
0:00 Intro
1:54 Should You Buy a Class B RV
2:20 Class B RV Chassis Platforms
2:55 Which Is The Best Class B For You
3:12 Which is the Cheapest Chassis
3:35 Class B Size Comparison
4:34 Best Looking Class B RV
6:10 Class B Engine Drive Train Comparison
🔷Mercedes Sprinter
9:10 Best Class B RV for Off Road
11:04 Shortest & Most Popular Vans For Off Road
14:02 Interior Design Comparison
15:29 Dealership Service Center Comparison
🔷Dodge ProMaster
17:35 Most Readily Available Chassis
18:01 cheapest Class B RV
20:26 Safety Features
🔷Ford Transit
21:56 Newest Class B Chassis Option
25:14 Which Van is Easiest To Drive?
26:59 Floor Plan Comparison
29:15 Class RV Resale Comparison
31:37 Which Is The Best Class B For You
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@sandrastevens2793
3 жыл бұрын
P Nnp
Just under 400 Mercedes dealers in the USA, not all work on sprinters, and almost never in rural areas. 3000 Ford dealers, all work on transits, and they are everywhere from big metro cities to rural towns.
@Al-pj4dj
2 жыл бұрын
If it’s a Ford, you’ll need all the repair shops you can find.
@mikegaskin5542
Жыл бұрын
@@Al-pj4dj I had a Ford Transit Connect and the only non-routine repair it ever needed was a taillight module that went out because the sliding door track wore the wire out. Other than that it was a good vehicle.
@Al-pj4dj
Жыл бұрын
@@mikegaskin5542 how many miles did you put on it?
Just constructive criticism. It would be nice if you allowed Nick to finish his talk instead of interrupting him. You seem to regularly do that. Sorry again for my impressions
@FEARNoMore
3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Why have an expert if you don't let him lead or even finish his thought.
@dmrdmr5885
3 жыл бұрын
He does that in two of the videos I have seen him in. Sorry bro but it's annoying.
Hank, you need to let Nick, the expert, be able to finish a sentence before you butt in…………if you’ve got somebody to explain the product you need to chill and let them talk…..but it was a great video, other than that!
@behappi2371
2 жыл бұрын
Agree 💯
@earthkarma7420
Жыл бұрын
No kidding, glad you said it. The interruptions are annoying.
@raindragon1000
Жыл бұрын
Agree.
@1WanderingGypsy
Жыл бұрын
RUDE!
@JacquesHomeMovies
11 ай бұрын
Right let the guy that you are interviewing finish his answer.
Hank, thanks for you and Nick, from Sunshine State to talk about the three different chassis models.
The class B rv is on my wishlist so this video answered the many questions I had about the different models. Thank you it is awesome
Wonderful video.....well done! Answered all of my questions. We've got a 2021 Coachmen 22D Li3 and couldn't be happier.We just returned from a 3 week trip from Florida to the West Coast and back and it was fantastic. Our ProAir A/C stooped working on the trip, but we have an appointment with Sunshine State RV to repair it and I'm sure that they will take care of that quickly. We purchased our 22D from Sunshine State and they are by far the best dealer. The best on the planet! Thanks for the great video. George in St. Augustine.
Reliability is arguably the most important feature for me. I don’t ever hear anyone talking about this. I work for a municipality, and the Transit vans are used as fleet vans. I saw some guys loading one up to head out for the day and asked them about it, and they said the vans had some serious mechanical issues, consistent across all their vans. I didn’t ask what year van, but it was interesting to note. An awesome floor plan is great, but if the rig is often at the mechanic or is broken down, not so great.
@rcpmac
Жыл бұрын
Don't get the sprinter if you want to be able to get repairs in the boondocks. BTW when you bring the sprinter in for anything, you have to sign an agreement that authorizes the dealer to do up to $1000 in service or repair!
@WHATEVERPEN
Жыл бұрын
It would have been MUCH better if you asked why or what are the break downs, without them saying it’s not realistic that they break down a lot..
@lisanoway3636
11 ай бұрын
@@rcpmacVery good to know. Thank you
FORD TRANSIT BEYOND Is the best with back fold down bed!!...it has the most storage.💗💗💗
In Europe the RAM comes as Fiat Ducato, Peugeot Boxer and Citroën Jumper they have fantastic diesel engines that are rated to 2.5milion miles without a problem and are very economic with 28 to 30 mpg (us). Those are the most popular versions in Europe as they are by far wider (than Sprinter and Transit) you can sleep widthwise. They are also 4x4 versions that they are using the dangel 4x4 system. I hope that now that Stellantis (PSA group and Fiat that owns the RAM) to bring diesel versions soon.
@scottpearce7466
Жыл бұрын
Fiats diesel wont pass US emissions & it's simply to expensive for such a small market to improve iti. Plus as Chryslers parent company they use Chryslers drivetrain in the states (that was agreed upon when Fiat took over). Pentastar 3.6L 280hp V6 & Chrysler 9spd automatic. Remember all the fiats are 1.8L diesel & manual transmissions only.
Good to see all three next each other to get an idea of the differences. Just ordered my Beyond 22 C!
@strangerpalooza
3 жыл бұрын
Cool Congratulations 👍🏾
I like the Nissan nv 200
@Willie1980
Жыл бұрын
me too...NV200
Wow! This is my favorite video-comparison very informative. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I like the thoroughness i questions and answers , I feel well informed now ,thanks
Excellent video. Appreciate the information on the different types of Van RVs.
Pleasure way builds 2 versions on transit ( on tour 2.2 dually/on tour 2.0 shorter non dually version)
Thank you, Hank, I've enjoyed watching your channel and learning about various RV options. And thank you also, Nick.
Good info here! I’m one who like the shorties, but it’s still good to hear all about the choices available. Hank, I hope you will do a review of the Winnebago Solis Pocket when it comes out. I know it’ll be more of a niche product but a few of us would really like to see it up close.
Awesome video I’m new looking at B class RV. When I retire in 3-years thank you
Excellent review! Got that Ram pro master on my mind!
Thanks, great vid!
Great comparison. Answered many of my questions.
Great interview!
This was a great topic....THANK YOU!
Very sensible and good review. Thanks for clarifying so many different variables to be considered.
I’m a hard no on the Dodge Promaster because of it being front wheel drive (FWD). FWD makes since in a car because the main passengers/weight is up front along with the engine/drivetrain, so you get good traction. However, in a van, especially an RV with fresh water, gray and black tanks at 8 lbs per gallon, the majority of weight is in the back, taking weight off the front making less traction. This is why people in Promaster’s get stuck in wet grass and even have trouble using MaxTrax Recovery Boards. I currently have a Dodge Grand Caravan (minivan) with a wheelchair accessible lowered floor fold out ramp, which adds weight to the back, and my front drive wheels will spin driving 75 mph on wet pavement going up a slight hill. I’m looking at the AWD Transit. You can also get a true 4x4 Quigley conversion with a lift kit on the Transit for anyone wanting an off road van.
@AJourneyOfYourSoul
3 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right. People think fwd is better, but in a van, weighted down in the back, fwd is awful. I was at a tiny fest and the parking lot got a little muddy, all the promasters had issues getting out. For weighted down vans, rwd is better than fwd, awd/4wd even better.
@danielmedlin1045
2 жыл бұрын
I'm purchasing a ProMaster 17 and 1/2 foot it does not have a black tank the gray tank and clean water tank its position more in the center of the vehicle
Nice job on these videos. I like that the Ford has an AWD option, a spare tire and extensive dealer support. The more I learn, the more I lean towards the Ford. Mercedes only if wanting 4x4 like the Storyteller.
@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath
3 жыл бұрын
Storyteller is BS
@FEARNoMore
3 жыл бұрын
You can get AWD on the Transit or convert it to a 4x4. Unlike the Promaster which doesn't come with either or can't be converted.
@georgemidland1623
Жыл бұрын
@@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath Why Mark? Please explain...
Great video!!! We love our 2020 Ford transit beyond . His name is Winston. 😃
Every German vehicle I've had has been a Money 🤑Pit
Awesome video thanks
Thank you for the info...Amazing...Great Job!!!
For a family of 4, the best value for money that we can enjoy now and not wait until we're at retirement age (in our 40s), we went with RAM Promaster. For the best layout, price, features we went with Thor 20AT with pop-top and lithium battery system. Only one of the few that can claim can sit 4 people and sleep 4 comfortably for a Class B RV. I've looked and this was the best class B for what we're looking for. Considered Roadtrek Slumber and Winnebago Solis PX was our close 2nd but didn't have lithium option and missing some features (no TV, awning etc).
Great questions !! Thanks !
Van-Do-It makes great ford transit based RV conversion. They make truly flexible model for true wilderness goers. I seriously looked into it until lately. Their models are based on modular design, and you can take sections in and out, and change design for occasion and use. Totally different revolutionary concept!
Great video thank you!
Thanks great video
Hank I just subscribed man. I've watched a TON of videos and this is one of the best I've seen. You asked all the right questions. VERY informative. We have an older 25' class C now and I'm looking to get into one of these vans. Based on the video I'm leaning towards the Dodge, but hoping I can find it in 4x4. Do you know? We are going to explore the USA, and then go to Thailand and buy a small van there. Then plan to travel all over Asia. Thanks man.
Classy presentation. Thank you
Thank God I stumbled upon this great video! I almost visited this dealer when I visited sunny ☀️ florida in March but didn’t and now I feel like I’ve been there! Well in Faith I’m gonna take this knowledge and when I get a chance to visit Florida again I shall make my purchase!!! Woohooo! God’s soo good 😊👍❤️💃🎶🙏
Great job thank you for this wonderful video
Great Video, learned a lot. Thanks
I really enjoyed this video especially Sunshine Nick guy. Now I know the difference thanks for the video
So helpful!
Great information. Thanks 谢谢
Only select Mercedes dealers have technicians that can work on Sprinter vans. If you break down your repair choices are very limited. If I were do another Class B it would be a Ford just for that reason.
Super informative !!!!!
👍⭐️😍🏆🏅Wow! This is video is absolutely fantastic & packed with very helpful info. Nick seems like a terrific guy. I’m new to your channel, but I have to admit that I’m still surprised you didn’t get the Mercedes RV. 😂💝🤩
You both did a Great job. 👍
Another informative video, thanks, guys!. Lola Strange is Gorgeous she's a class act.
@ww3922
3 жыл бұрын
lola strange
I love the Amazon Van Class B look. Blue
Hi Hank-----great video!
Love the videos.
@strangerpalooza
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks my friend
There’s a good number of shops doing custom conversions. They’ll usually build on whichever platform you bring them.
Very good 😊
Great Video & INFO ....AWD is a nice option...
@strangerpalooza
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah thanks I’m hoping going forward the floor plans get more innovative
Thank you so much!!!👠🚌👠
Good video. Very informative.
This sales rep is so pissed off that he keeps getting interrupted
Let him talk...
I've got the Ford with the all-wheel-drive 222rb and the vehicle is great.
@justjudy7320
Жыл бұрын
A year has gone by since you posted this comment, do you still feel the same way. I live in Montana and would prefer a four-wheel drive but I'm not interested in the Mercedes the front wheel drive is attractive because it seems like it would be cheaper in gasoline than they all wheel. So how you liking your Transit I'm leaning in that direction strongly.
ummmm dealer said Transit has a 9-speed transmission, it is a 10 speed automatic. Great video though!
@DeborahLong7777
3 жыл бұрын
I love the Chevy transit yes ! Mercedes will be big bucks and bigger bucks to repair!
I have a 2016 jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon and I plan on towing it behind my 2020 tall top Mercedes sprinter 4 x 4. There’s so little room and jeep wranglers even this four-door. I had a 2012 Toyota FJ cruiser they got totaled in a rollover accident which is why I had to buy the sprinter and I could tow so much more stuff in it than the Wrangler plus it had a full length heavy duty aftermarket luggage rack for hauling things on top
Great job thanks 👍🇨🇦
good video, thank you!
@strangerpalooza
Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome, thanks for check it out
I don’t like Ram or Transit because they don’t have engine hood bump out to protect in accident. Like the old VW van. Sprinter does have that added protection and MB good safety record. Plus its the most nimble driving. Great comparison👍
I love the Ram look
I have the Ford Transit too / I love how Smooth it Drives / the Sprinter is just an Endless Money Pit / & I've had Friends that complained about the ram Transmission....
@bypinkerton892
3 жыл бұрын
I think the Ram looks like a Frog...
@LCLand
5 күн бұрын
That’s what I’ve decided on. Most economical in the long term I think
@bypinkerton892
5 күн бұрын
Hi... L Land.... I still Love my 2018 Ford Transit 250.... Med roof.... Cargo Van.... I do the Regular Oil Chg & Tire Rotation.... I've had No Problems... Also mine is No Eco- Boost.... Great back up Camera... & Big Side mirror's together I don't think I have blind spots.... Enjoy....
@LCLand
5 күн бұрын
@@bypinkerton892 eco boost bad? I’ve emailed vandoit to see if they can build something pretty not campy. 😌
ONLY reason I powered thru this video is becoz I will be purchasing a Class B in my future & am reviewing as many viewpoints as I can. However; had that not been my objective I would have stopped viewing (there goes your KZread commercial credits), due to your "constant" interruptions of your guest. You are the interviewer, not the interviewee. Plz allow us to listen to your guests answers. Everyone knows it's your channel, you don't need to insert your face shots & quips. You will be more successful with adding subscriptions to your channel with better interviewer skills.
What are the different fuel mileage between versions. Great video . Thanks 🙏
I drive a truck and I like how I sit in it so I'd probably go with the promaster or sprinter if I went just on seating position
If you are over 6' 1", the Ford is your only option. (6' 6" vs 6' 2" for the ram / mercedes)
Great info! In terms of interior height, the Ford Transit High Roof is definitely the the winner of that category..
@k.pacificnw02134
3 жыл бұрын
The high roof Promaster isn't just as tall?
@ab-ym3bf
2 жыл бұрын
@@k.pacificnw02134 the extra high roof is taller, but not available in the USA
Love this! The information is great. It totally helps me make up my mind on which one to buy.
I was expecting you to address the Sprinter recalls and how hard it is to get service, not, do you like European styling?
I believe Ford now offers the RV Transit Chassis with a diesel option.
I drive a fiat promaster at work. For my personal use, I wouldn’t touch one with a ten foot pole. I understand that Ford has fixed the issue with rainwater draining directly on some of the electronics under the hood and the new all wheel drive and eco boost are also great upgrades. I’ve heard no complaints about the Mercedes except the cost of maintenance.
@genxskeptic5816
2 жыл бұрын
@Dave Silver Chrysler has always made good looking and impressive vehicles, but the longevity and quality workmanship is just poor these days. The Daimler Chrysler partnership improved quality, but the Fiat ownership is just bad. Own one for 5 or 6 years, then dump it before it starts falling apart. General Motors is heading in the same direction. Nissan isn’t doing very well either.
@genxskeptic5816
Жыл бұрын
@Dave Silver Most likely a Transit. I’d love the Mercedes, but a simple oil change or tranny service is $$$😬. Also, I tend to be a destination camper. I’ll go to my destination and stay for an extended period, then return. That may change after I retire.
Transit for the win.
you send it any where for free? I am so excited. thank you for your video.
Let the man explain for God sake
I own a 5.3L V8 Chevy express conversion van and my highway mileage isn’t much different than the v6 vans I can get upwards of 25 mpg and it’s nearly 30 years old to boot. You just have to evaluate your needs
The Leisurevan Wonder out of Canada also builds on the Ford Chassis.
The Dodge chassis is still far behind the Ford. No adaptive cruise control which makes driving long distances more tiring. The drivers seating position barely tilts back enough to sit comfortably pushing you over the steering wheel. To tilt it a bit more the entire seat tilts. I’m 5’6” with a 28” inseam and barely had enough room in the drivers seat. The steering wheel moves in and out but does not tilt. So you have a more horizontal steering wheel than the more vertical ones we are used to in all cars and the Mercedes and Ford vans. The dashboard navigation screen is ridiculously small and looks like ten year old technology. It lacks Apple car play or Android auto. The one thing I found with the Dodge is that it is quick and Nimble and can park most anywhere. The transmission is rough and the vehicle is a jerk a minute drive. The Dodge chassis desperately needs to be updated to at least 2020 standards. They may call it a Dodge but it really is a Fiat. The line of Fiat Ducato full-size vans are sold as Ram ProMaster vans in North America.
😮😮 knowledge! 🙌🙌👍👍❤❤
Folks, if you're trying to decide. I can give you a quality perspective you may want to consider. Best: Sprinter Better: Transit Worst: Promaster. Actually the 2021 and older Promaster has a huge issue with the transmission. It will give you trouble guaranteed....over and over. I'm a Ram loyal customer too. As a matter a fact I would still consider it for the fact it's cheap and my dealership is a couple miles away. Also, the 2022 and up have a new improved Transmission...I wonder why ;) Still, everything about it is cheaply made compared to the others.
Don’t forget the 20’ Pleasureway Ontour 2.0 on the Ford Transit platform
@oceanlover3530
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was wondering why he was saying Coachmen is the only one whose builds on the Ford chassis. ✌🏻
@alecmurray4921
3 жыл бұрын
@@oceanlover3530 probably because they don’t carry Pleasure Way. I also mentioned the 2.0 because he indicated that the Transit only comes in 22’.
@RockAndGrohlMe
3 жыл бұрын
Last I checked, the Pleasure Way Transits have EcoBoost but are ONLY RWD. With the Coachmen Beyond, they all have EcoBoost AND duallys BUT you can have either RWD or AWD.
@alecmurray4921
3 жыл бұрын
@@RockAndGrohlMe there are other differences, too. But my point (which I could have been clearer on) was that while it was stated in the video that Transit-based B-class RVs were all 22’, Pleasure-way has one on the non-extended version. I actually own a 2020 Beyond, built on the 2019 Transit chassis. AWD only became available on the 2020 chassis. The Beyond so far has been a pleasure to own.
@RockAndGrohlMe
3 жыл бұрын
@@alecmurray4921 Gotcha. Most of the time, I don’t respond in comments because I don’t want to get into a long explanation… Same as you are saying LOL… You and I know there are many more differences. I have heard that the 2020 Beyond is built on the 2019 chassis, which means no AWD. What I don’t know is were any 2020 coaches built on the 2020 chassis? Similarly, are all 2021 coaches ONLY built on the 2020 chassis? I am envious… I really want a Beyond, but I assume a glut of barely used RVs will go on the market in the next one or two years lol. I hope you keep enjoying yours!
I live near Portland Oregon. They can't keep Promasters in stock. There's the microchip shortage problem, due to the covid supply chain eff-ups, and more people that want to do the #vanlife thing, and even preppers ready to live off grid.
I like the Dodge Ram it’s easy to park.
i am going cargo van, sleeping bag, air mattress, igloo cooler and gas stove. skipping all the build stuff class b. ford transit awd eco is the selection. i like ram ( sorry no awd), sprinter cool looking (just to scary getting towed xxx miles wild west to a dealer).
This was a well intentioned video, but the host’s interruptions keeps the sales person from finishing what he has to say, and worse in some parts of the video it throws the sales person off from his train of thought. This another bad example of bad interviewing skills. No offense meant. I didn’t even finish the video coz after awhile, the interruptions from the host just started to get annoying. Again, no offense meant. Hopefully, this will be taken constructively. Peace! ✌️
Which one is quietest while driving?
For the sales tax punch I take registering in Kansas, would I be better buying a buying a barebones van, going through the registration costs, and then after surviving that, then tricking it out to all the amenities and add-ons?
Thank you Hank and Nick thumbs UP and shared. :)
@strangerpalooza
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rich much appreciated
@RJM1011
3 жыл бұрын
@@strangerpalooza They were sold out of those Gina dolls but the other shopping I have for you and Walter will be here soon. :)
Embassy RV also builds on the Ford Transit.
Am i wrong to say that the promaster is not a dodge?
@AJourneyOfYourSoul
3 жыл бұрын
No. In the USA it is under the Ram brand.
Hank, I missed the premier of this video, but better late than never! Great shootout (excuse the pun), but one topic not covered is ground clearance, so I'll cover what I've noticed between the three brands. I could say I'm biased when it comes to Mopar, as I've been a Mopar man since 1970 (340 Dart) and still own a 73 Power Wagon I bought new, but I must say the Ram Promaster sucks when it comes to ground clearance. What the heck is that bar running from side to side back where the rear end ought to be? That thing looks like it was made just to shave down the hump that forms in the middle of dirt roads. You do know the best boondocker sites are at the end of such dirt roads. No thanks, but if there were no other choice I might have to go for it! I've never owned a Ford, and I'm guilty of mentioning those found off road dead jokes a time or three, but I might be a little biased to make the Transit my second choice, as Ford stock has been very, very good to me. As soon as the chip shortage ends, and Ford starts paying a dividend again, I'll be a happy camper. But, when following a Transit I can't help but notice it has a hangy down thing on either side which may be a shock mount or something to do with the leaf springs. It sure looks like it would hit a not too big rock in the road! Maybe a hacksaw would take care of some of the loss of ground clearance, or an aftermarket company could come up with a solution, especially since they are now all wheel drive and expected to go off road. So that means my top choice would be the Merc. I will admit to being biased here, as I bought a used 170" 22' 2011 3500 dually back in 2014 from a trucking company that turned them in every two years rather than worry about repairs. It had 180k on the odometer, and after using it as my daily driver ever since, it now had about 225k. It was just getting broken in when Mercedes recalled a bunch of years to replace smog parts like oxygen sensors and diesel particulate filters, so now I've got a 4 year extended warranty, but have to start all over on breaking her in! The 3500 has a lower rear end gear ratio, so my mpg suffers over the 2500 models, but all around 17mpg is easier to accept as I only paid $14k for the van. I knew the trucking company driver who turned me on to the sale, and he said they always took care of maintenance. Russ over at RVerTV says his long tall 2019 2500 24' gets 24mpg if anyone cares to look one over: kzread.infovideos The Sprinter does have more ground clearance, although the 144" version would be better suited for lots of offroad boondocking. Mine is two wheel drive, but as a dually it sits up about as high as the new four wheel drives, or at least they look about even to me. I think the roof sits at about 9 1/2 feet tall, excluding the MaxxAir fan and solar panels I have yet to install. Another topic not covered is towing capacity. I hear the Nissan Cargo van wins that shootout, but I'm just going off of hearsay! Now, for the DIY crowd, or for those with $$$ to burn, you might like what George and his son Alex build at Humble Road. They build highly customized vans to order on whichever platform you want. I'd go so far as to call their vans the Rolls Royce of class B's (my words, not theirs). They use a lot of 80/20 aluminum and nice wood, and they recommend (and have toured the factory) the Lithionics battery system, but $10k for one battery seems like a lota mula. Here is a sample of an earlier Promaster build in progress, and search George's vast videos for just about any van build topic and he has probably covered it. kzread.info/dash/bejne/opeXkqaOcaq_YJM.html
You can't park in some lake parking or camping trailheads with over 20 ft. Vehicles. Gmc with ASTRO is really missing the boat. If only they made it awd, higher ground clearance, modernized and plusher cab.
I’m a dodge and Chevy guy but I’m a have to look at the transit
Looking for class B with Max seating to Gaston additional to the driver and passenger and eating out back an a pop-up
What’s the difference between all wheel drive and four-wheel-drive?
He forgot to mention how much can you afford to spend?