Thank you! Good info! Best regards, Dante

Appreciate the comparison of the two tents. I didn’t realize they even had rain flies for these types of tents. Are they really necessary? I like the springbar option for hot tenting. Kodiak seems like a great tent for the money.

@Outdoorithm

5 күн бұрын

We find that the rain flies help in two ways: 1) they allow you to keep the windows open when it's raining so the rain doesn't run into the tent through an open window and 2) if you're heading out the next day, it'll keep your tent dry since you can't pack it away wet. We sometimes we'll use the rainfly if we're expecting heavy dew. But you're right, it's not necessary in the traditional sense as the tent is watertight!

Value is a measure of price and feature/quality. Failed to compare value. Comparing one tent $750 to one that is $1200 which is nearly a 50% price delta makes it easy to point out differences . Comparing a $900 Springbar Vagabond Tent (still $150 20% more than the Kodiak) which is a smaller tent and far fewer features would be a better comparison of value.

@Outdoorithm

5 күн бұрын

Thanks for your comment, Peter. The great thing with Springbar is that all their tents have some of the features we highlighted (steel wire stake loops with perimeter rope reinforcement, heavy-duty 12oz laminated vinyl floor, guy lines, etc.). There was a recent change in the poles - the new Classic Jacks that came out in May 2024 do have EP coated steel poles while the Vagabond has aluminum alloy poles. We chose to compare the Kodiak 10x14 with the Classic Jack 10x14 because they are both imports and they're the same size. Comparing strictly by price is certainly one way to go but we opted to compare by size because we figured families looking for a large tent are probably not comparing a 10x14 that sleeps 5 (or more with younger children) with the smaller 8x10 Vagabond. Hope this helps!

@randomstuffwithjoe

4 күн бұрын

I disagree. This is the perfect comparison. They are direct competitors in size style. Pointing out the differences in the tents helps people determine if $1200 is worth the price cost over $750 for a tent that is the same size, materials, design, etc.

@peterdement

4 күн бұрын

You may make that argument for every purchase decision in life. Most people however have a finite overall household budget and must extract as much value from every purchase not just the better feature/quality available for a tent used one to three weeks a year at very steep premium.