I've spent a decade on KZread, 6 as a content creator and the last 4+ working with brands like BMW & LEGO with this KZread SEO. I can tell you that real businesses and companies are beginning to understand the importance of KZread but do lack the knowledge of how to check if something is 'legit' or not. Roth 100% bought followers, likely as you mentioned... an ego thing or to stand out to the 'powers that be' in our industry. It's almost as hilarious as it is sad.

@DanTheCardMan2

11 күн бұрын

Honestly SEO goes over my head, consistency is the best approach that I’ve found but I can see why idiots fall for the buying of subs. People are looking for quick wins but it kills your channel so fast. The second they stop buying their makeup views the cease to exist. Companies in this space need to wake up because they wasting so much money on people giving them nothing in return

@ExtraordinaireJunior

11 күн бұрын

@@DanTheCardMan2 they’ll learn. Once people (if they ever) get wise to the tricks.

@DanTheCardMan2

11 күн бұрын

SEO is so overwhelming. You must be a genius haha

@ExtraordinaireJunior

11 күн бұрын

@@DanTheCardMan2 I know 3 things. SEO, dumb memes, and how to lose money on sports cards

@DanTheCardMan2

11 күн бұрын

Haha only know one of those things and it was the last thing you said 😅

I’m sure Sports Card Dad had a few subs buys in his closet…The only infomercial channel on KZread. Dudes a fraud too.

@TheSportsCardDad

11 күн бұрын

Nope. Sorry to disappoint lol 👎

@Sqwack27

11 күн бұрын

@@TheSportsCardDad How about your “sports card addiction vids” Dustin. That was great click bait.

@TheSportsCardDad

11 күн бұрын

@@Sqwack27I’m absolutely shocked that you missed the point of those videos lol whatever dude.

@Sqwack27

11 күн бұрын

@@TheSportsCardDad That’s your comment on everything, dude. “You didn’t understand”when someone disagrees with you.. Addiction is something that should never be taken lightly. You and Geoff would make a great show together maybe you can be regular on the Geoff Wilson show.

@joeTheFreedomMailman

10 күн бұрын

​@@TheSportsCardDadyou had tremendous growth until you decided to chase nickels with those cheap plugs. If this is your main income source than I get it. If not, you shot yourself in the foot.

i pride myself in being all natural. lol.

I've heard a TON of content creators on KZread for years say that the majority of people that watch their videos do not subscribe.

@DanTheCardMan2

11 күн бұрын

Yup, it’s like that for most niches on YT which is why a small sub to view ratio of like 1% isn’t that insane, especially for more viral type content like vlogs

I honestly find most card KZreadrs to be very cringe, there are very few i watch and/or take seriously

Nothing on the internet is real

Lets be honest the cap for most channels with sports cards is 10k. Not to many people in the hobby. Especially gaining over 100 subs in a week is suspect. If your at 100k subs you should be pulling 30k views a video

@DanTheCardMan2

11 күн бұрын

Yup, I agree. Many sub counts are inflated from the boom though. A lot of people have left and it’s hurting channels now.

We hate sports card dad. We love vintage sports shack

@DanTheCardMan2

10 күн бұрын

Sports Shack vs Neo and Dustin in a 2 on 1 handicap steel cage match

@JeezyKeen

10 күн бұрын

@@liverust5 im glad you saw the light

@liverust5

6 күн бұрын

@@JeezyKeen you too

most people in this space are grifters. sad

@DanTheCardMan2

11 күн бұрын

I’d change it to most in social media not in the hobby space. Unless that’s what you meant

@johnwayne9828

9 күн бұрын

​@@DanTheCardMan2alot of the new people are into cards specifically because of the "influencers", and dont care about collecting, only flipping and money.

I bought a couple subs today. 1 ham and 1 turkey/bacon.

@DanTheCardMan2

10 күн бұрын

I lied when I said I haven’t bought dubs. I’ve definitely eaten way too many meatball sandwiches in my life to count

@jaredmay8456

10 күн бұрын

@DanTheCardMan2 meatball subs are awesome...and probably part of the reason I had to have my gallbladder removed earlier this week. 🤣

@DanTheCardMan2

10 күн бұрын

​​⁠hope you are recovering well mate

@jaredmay8456

10 күн бұрын

@@DanTheCardMan2 Thanks it's going well.1st 2 days were brutal but the pain was actually less than what I was going through before surgery so not much to complain about.

Most, if not all of them, are phonies…😂

We appreciate your videos. Keep it up.

@DanTheCardMan2

11 күн бұрын

Thank you!

NEO cards and comics looks like one of Harry Potters Hobbits, does he buy subs, wouldn't surprise me, as he comes across as a flipper type, flippers help ruin collecting with there greed

@DanTheCardMan2

10 күн бұрын

Neo growth has been slow and consistent, I don’t think he has bought any but who truly knows

@zachpierce641

6 күн бұрын

A flipper type? All he does is talk about all the stuff he’s always chasing for his PC? lol

Your channel is a blessing that brings much joy 🌺🌺 You see a message like the above and that's one way to tell someone is buying interactions

@DanTheCardMan2

11 күн бұрын

Haha 100%, sometimes you get random bot comments, but it’s when you see the above dozens of times is a red flag

They use sub count as a salss pitch closing deals. What a shame.

In this day and age I'm not surprised. Some of these influencers will do anything to pump themselves let alone certain products.

It definitely is telling on the creator's personality. I wouldn't trust him.

Great information Dan, thanks for sharing

@DanTheCardMan2

11 күн бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

ol sports card daddy was the failed ‘personal finance dad’. then he begged geoff wilson to have him for an interview so he could gain popularity. the interview was horrible n weird. theres a little core of hobby buddies. and theyre all sketchy and sleezy. anything to get attention. sports card dad. geoffy wilson. Neo cards and comics (who purchased kurts card care “just to see what it was”). neo was the most normal/helpful, but he was just hiding it.

@DanTheCardMan2

9 күн бұрын

What interview with Geoff? The one on his show?

@johnwayne9828

9 күн бұрын

I always got Geoff wilson vibes from dustin, didnt realize they were buddies though. That explains alot, including why his thumbnails look like they're made by Geoff's editor.

Of course Desperate Dustin the Sports Card Poser didn't give credit, he is only about promoting himself. He only regurgitates and recycles second hand information, never offering anything original.

@DanTheCardMan2

9 күн бұрын

I have told him this before but I think doing daily content really hurts his ability to add original thought speech to a lot of talking points.

@johnwayne9828

9 күн бұрын

Yep, every video he makes is literally just a copy and paste of others peoples content. Or its him pumping his own cards.

@Sqwack27

9 күн бұрын

@@johnwayne9828 Well said!!

Gamble Gamble early on tried to do a video with Roth band he brushed him off and he and others suggested early on that Roth has been buying subs. What abour Geoff? Keane is a hustler. That kid is on WhatNot almost every day selling hundreds and hundreds of cards.

@DanTheCardMan2

11 күн бұрын

It wouldn’t surprise me with Geoff. Need to do more research but I think his is more high quality content that went viral a few times and gained subs that way. Entirely possible and probably plausible that they bough some so need to do more research.

@LetsStormTheTeaCupRide

11 күн бұрын

@@DanTheCardMan2 Geoff has a whopping 324,000 subs and that increased quickly and engagement is low and views are about that of Roth and in some cases more with more than 1/3rd less subscribers than Goof. #HankyPanky.

Shorts massively skew channel subs vs. long form views as you pointed out later on in the video. I think a lot of people are trying to make short term ego gains via shorts over making decent long form content. TikTok generation at work.

@DanTheCardMan2

11 күн бұрын

Yep, exactly. They don’t convert to long form and these guys don’t get it. Happy to see a big sub number but then get confused why they stop getting pushed by the algo

i may not comment on every vid mate but i do thumb up and watch even loved the fishin N rips too was good to have on in the background while sorting cards

@DanTheCardMan2

11 күн бұрын

Thank you my man! Appreciate the kind words

I am doing my channel for the LOVE of it. Hard work is more rewarding to me.

@DanTheCardMan2

11 күн бұрын

Consistency is key. As long as you have fun that’s all that matters

The funniest thing is that the KZread algo is so good buying subs will only hurt you.

@DanTheCardMan2

11 күн бұрын

Yup, like I said, guys basically do it and then get stuck having to keep repeating it because YT nukes it pretty quickly. Subs stop clicking because they aren’t real and then YT stops recommending

Appreciate what you do! Great video as always!

@DanTheCardMan2

11 күн бұрын

I appreciate that!

Was there a specific time period that drew your attention to make the comment that the Great Curator bought subs?

@DanTheCardMan2

8 күн бұрын

I would say 12-18 months ago. Quite confident he did it for IG

Stryker Breaks bought 50k subs and nobody said anything, actually crazy. Even Sports Card radio scared to shake that tree for some reason

@DanTheCardMan2

11 күн бұрын

Assume they just missed it. I’m happy to take a look

@lennybeucler6575

11 күн бұрын

I have a hard time watching him. He seems fake and full of himself. Not attractive.

Who TF cares about this stuff? I guess only emotional content creators that are struggling or flat do. KZread makes a lot of money , I don’t care at all if someone is able to outsmart them and get some of that money.

@DanTheCardMan2

10 күн бұрын

People care as it gives context to YT and sponsorships etc. if you listened closely you’ll know it doesn’t outsmart anyone and no money is made from it long term

Appreciate you Dan!

@DanTheCardMan2

10 күн бұрын

Thank you my man

@4:06......we are still in the boom dan. Youll know its really ended when prices tank and all the influencers, grifters, and conmen all find a new grift.

@DanTheCardMan2

9 күн бұрын

Very fair! I still think we have a lot of people holding onto cards they significantly overpaid for and they’re holding out. We haven’t seen the real offload yet. I’m ready though cause there’s heaps of pc crap I wanna buy lol

That’s so obvious Dan. I’d be embarrassed not doing it organically. Like it should be.

Can someone tell me the process of actually how someone would buy subs and views. How is that even done, need a walk thru on that process to understand

@DanTheCardMan2

11 күн бұрын

There are 100s of websites. They are basically bot farms in certain parts of the world where you go on and pick how many subs and views you want

Excellent analysis. I hope you’re getting enough sleep as a new father!

@DanTheCardMan2

11 күн бұрын

Thank you! Things are getting better now, both kids are sleeping almost through the night. I think we win the lottery.

One37pm (now known as ballplayers) I feel like also Bought subs. They have nearly 500k subscribers but the podcast for sports cards was only getting 2k views

@DanTheCardMan2

9 күн бұрын

I’ll need to check it out more closely

Good video for aspiring YouBoobers. Just do giveaways!

@DanTheCardMan2

9 күн бұрын

Entered! 😂

I might not be timely watching all your content but rarely is there something I am not interested in. Well done as always Dan!! It is sad when even some of the small channels like less than 2k spike to 11+k but still get a hundred or two views a video. there was someone I really enjoyed watching her content but after that. I bounced. Just bothered me for some reason...

@DanTheCardMan2

7 күн бұрын

Thanks mate, I appreciate you. It’s entirely possible that a random short can make people grow fast but most of the time that’s not the case and they’re buying subscribers

Buying subs, to me, feels like cheating at golf when you are playing by yourself lol...like why do it other than to stroke your own ego?

@DanTheCardMan2

9 күн бұрын

100% lol. Great analogy. Many sponsors are ignorant so some guys get rewarded for it

I’ve watched roth a lot cause I enjoy card show content he says the main reason he does social media is to promote the cards he has/picks up at shows. Everything else is like secondary to him so idk if I agree with ur analysis of hunting for sponsors but it’s pretty fishy how he got that many subs for sure

@DanTheCardMan2

2 күн бұрын

He definitely has a lot of sponsors too but respect your stance mate

Great video Dan. Hope the dad life is treating you well

@DanTheCardMan2

10 күн бұрын

It is and thank you for checking in 🙌

I called a watch dealer out on bought subs, views, and comments. Made a Reddit post on a sub the guy and his associates read daily. He had 475k views on average per video within 24 hours of release. Comments would reach around 2500. They gained 1k subs a week for a year consistently. After my post, his views dropped to 50k and less in 24 hours. He stopped releasing videos weekly for 3 months after the post. I posted the data, so people, including him, knew he was caught. Comments went to around 200 at most, and the majority of them were not favorable. His subcount dropped to 35 a week on top of it. He would go days without a single view of his long and short form. The algorithm took him off the suggested for long and short autoplay lists that quickly. He bought comments for giveaways to drown the callout comments from being seen. So, another post was made, and they turned on the fake Instagram comments. But they were the fake investment ones. They were deleted within 10 minutes of my post, and at least 75% of the comments for their last 10 posts went away. There is no way someone with 1500 followers gets 20k likes and 350 comments. The watch market is almost dead. It dropped faster than cards, and almost every model is at retail or below.

@yankeesandgiants1886

10 күн бұрын

Which channel was it? I'm a big viewer (critic) of watch channels - Roman Sheriff, 4P, old TPG (pre-arrest), Tim Write, Archie, WN....

@patchesohoulihan9826

10 күн бұрын

@@yankeesandgiants1886 Roman Sharf

@DanTheCardMan2

9 күн бұрын

Yep! I totally forgot about him when talking about this topic lol. His channel should be beside the definition of buying subscribers in the dictionary.

@DanTheCardMan2

9 күн бұрын

So you're a fan of a certain sub-reddit then as well haha

Stryker breaks diffenly bought subs look at his watch time and views went from 50 to over 100k makes no sense in less than a month

@DanTheCardMan2

9 күн бұрын

I’ll check it out. What do you mean watch time?

Buying subs ... Buying them from whom?

@DanTheCardMan2

10 күн бұрын

A bunch of companies sell them. They basically make fake accounts and then charge you to get them to watch and sub

I don’t enjoy watching someones videos any less if they bought subscribers.

@DanTheCardMan2

10 күн бұрын

It’s why I said the only thing it hurts is themselves. Makes it hard to grow and get videos pushed out to people

I had a youtube channel that was slowly growing but growing nevertheless. I started live streaming some stuff that was kinda related to my content but also wasnt. Picked up a lot of new subs and all of a sudden ppl stopped watching my actual vids. I think if I do a youtube channel again, I would never live stream again.

@DanTheCardMan2

9 күн бұрын

I think you just need to be careful how far you diverge from your actual niche. I.e. it needs to be a consistent theme across all your content but like I said in the video, shorts audience is very different to long form

I would think jabs family is buying subs but then I remember how cheap the guy is

@DanTheCardMan2

9 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂

Mojo is weird AF

@DanTheCardMan2

9 күн бұрын

It’s all about the vibes

@dandiaz84

9 күн бұрын

@@DanTheCardMan2 and he also needs to buy head and shoulders for his dandruff

I think Dappz buys subs or views on social media

@DanTheCardMan2

11 күн бұрын

I forgot about him 😂. He 100000% did

@patchesohoulihan9826

10 күн бұрын

@aihsports dappz had a live on Instagram one night with 2k viewers. I checked the list, and it was fake model accounts. They kept commenting the same 10 ones over and over, lol.

@aihsports

10 күн бұрын

@@patchesohoulihan9826 lol

Hello, I think we need to be careful when we say "buying subs". Buying subs is illegal, and youtube will terminate your channel, so I don't think anyone is buying subs. What I think is happening is that they are using the promotion feature that is within youtube to promote their videos in youtube studio. If so, there is absolutely nothing wrong with promoting your brand. These new subscribers subscribed because they must of enjoyed their content, and it's a good way to promote your channel under the youtube guidelines. No difference than a company promoting their brands, products, movies, etc... we are surrounded by advertisements, we live in a world of advertisements, and yet the sports card community seems to have a problem when one of them promotes its brand. I recommend sticking to what you do best and getting away from this toxic jealously that will only negatively impact all sports card channels, because real collectors which you seem to praise don't give a crap a out it. Sincerely, ODN1

@DanTheCardMan2

9 күн бұрын

Hey mate, if you dig a bit deeper into the YT Algorithm and how the Analytics work with the promotion feature, you will understand that the growth he obtained is odd. Toxic jealousy is a far cry from the truth but each to their own. This flows through to "Real collectors" too which is why I talked about it.

@odn1

9 күн бұрын

@DanTheCardMan2 Thank you for your reply. The growth in subscribers is what you would expect when you run a youtube promotion for a particular time frame, which would also explain the odd growth.

@DanTheCardMan2

9 күн бұрын

@@odn1 From the hours I have researched, those numbers obtained seem absolutely out of the realm of possibility. I will investigate further though. I might even experiment and run my own promotion campaign to see what happens

@odn1

9 күн бұрын

@DanTheCardMan2 yes, excellent idea. I know for a fact that one can gain thousands of subscribers when running a promotion targeting all countries for, let's say, a few hundreds of dollars. IMO, an excellent way to legally promote your brand on the youtube platform. Sincerely, ODN1

My thing is why do other people care that much about it why are people looking so closely at people sub counts maybe I’m just to old to get it 😂

@DanTheCardMan2

11 күн бұрын

That’s what I say at some point in the video. It hurts their own channel and that alone. I’m only talking about it because SCR raised it and so did Dustin. A good opportunity to bring some clarity

謝謝！

@DanTheCardMan2

10 күн бұрын

Thank you man, again, you don’t need to do this but I really appreciate your support

Most of my subs are from short videos and at least 90% don't subscribe according to my analytics. I have only recently heard of buying subs, got accused of it, lol. Know nothing about it

Basically my vid from yesterday, but in an Australian accent lol 😂 hey bro if you want me to come with a British accent, I can do so. Mums a Brit 😂

@lilcoop7712

11 күн бұрын

He’s making fun of you lol

@DanTheCardMan2

11 күн бұрын

I am all for that, we need more diversity. It’s why you got an attribution because I piggybacked off it to cover the Keane example and go more in depth on sub to view ratio (I don’t recall you covering that)

@buzzy1337

10 күн бұрын

Desperate Dustin the Sports Card Pathetic Poser, unoriginal hobby clown

Uhhhm gayyyyyyyyyyy!

@DanTheCardMan2

9 күн бұрын

😬

Still noone mentions stryker lol

@DanTheCardMan2

11 күн бұрын

lol someone mentioned him earlier, I had no idea so will need to take a look. Didn’t even know they existed if I’m being totally honest 😅

@whitesoxtom2657

9 күн бұрын

He's shady as heck his watch time and views don't match up Stryker needs to be put on blast to

I just subscribed hope that helps your analytics some 🫠

@DanTheCardMan2

10 күн бұрын

Ty good sir