"It's fine, Parker. I invented this equipment i think i can handle it" _Press X to doubt_

@BlackDiamond2718

3 жыл бұрын

proceeds to rage quit to avoid doubt.

@Anonymous-bu5bk

3 жыл бұрын

"It's fine, Parker. I invented this equipment; I think I can handle it." *It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia music starts playing* "Otto Becomes A Super Villain." ."

@qirinezra432

3 жыл бұрын

Spiderman 2 be like

@mandingopantsparty2299

3 жыл бұрын

Dutch: HAVE SOME GODDAM FAITH!!

@doomspidey1737

3 жыл бұрын

3.. 2.. 1.. yep it broke (My initial reaction)

"Wait, where are the arms?" *arms appear* Every Spider-Man fan: Oh dear.

@nebby947

2 жыл бұрын

yes

@ccelite3782

2 жыл бұрын

Me starting the game: *maybe they won't make him evil in this game* Me halfway through the game: *ah, shit.*

@risraid9324

2 жыл бұрын

Me: "Oh.. no no no...i don't like where this is going."

@introduction1266

2 жыл бұрын

@@ccelite3782 i knew it had to be otto or Osborn. I just couldn't tell which one till halfway

@rhodie5396

2 жыл бұрын

And then when the yelled at peter is knew it was over.

38:27 Peter was honestly considering helping Doc for a second, but when Doc threatened his identity he realized he was off the deep end.

@gutzbin

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, you can definitely see Peter thinking, he obviously wants what’s best for Otto because he looked up to him and respects him, and you can see him considering helping Otto so he doesn’t lose his arms and motor functions, but his expression changes immediately as soon as Otto threatens his identity.

@SomeAngryGuy1997

2 жыл бұрын

@William Borgemo Off to the loony bin you go!

@harperevans6856

2 жыл бұрын

@@bullymaguire9987 but hol up, this is actually philosophically deep… if you refuse to believe in it, does that mean is doesn’t exist? If I don’t believe in bullets does that mean I can’t get shot? No. I’m not here to defend one way or another (while I do have my thoughts) but I am here to say it’s a poor argument to infer that if it is in fact a physical place, it doesn’t exist because you don’t want it to.

@BrunoGuilhermeAP

2 жыл бұрын

We know bullets exist. There is no evidencie for hell or heaven.Its Just an stupid idea

@dapperfan44

2 жыл бұрын

@@SomeAngryGuy1997 Tolerance of the beliefs of others in action, folks. Let's see you say the same thing to a Hindu or a Muslim.

this actually made me cry... a doctor that just wanted to help disabled people, help them to be normal... went into this madness... so sad...

@davidordaz5251

2 жыл бұрын

Oh boy if I could have those mechanical arms would change my life drastically since being disabled is so hard and with so much pain..

@dragon091327

2 жыл бұрын

Well more like the tentacles more or less screwed up his mind because he went ahead with his neural interface carelessly.

@nadavbar-gil689

2 жыл бұрын

@@dragon091327 not the time to show your geek skills Pikachu

@aidenprogaming8055

2 жыл бұрын

@@nadavbar-gil689 he not wrong tho

@nadavbar-gil689

2 жыл бұрын

@@aidenprogaming8055 still

Can we appreciate how this game kept its main villain a secret till it’s release

@msucsabahmuhammadhazman1821

2 жыл бұрын

I remember thinking that Mr Negative is the main villian, only for the game to show its Doc Ock who is the main villian

@davidmacamay7099

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao movies/games today Trailer shows the entire main plot, villian, protagonist in the ending scene/fight scene

@shockingred2626

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidmacamay7099 my god it’s so annoying

@andrewpenn1145

2 жыл бұрын

That brings the number of times a piece of Spider-Man fiction kept the presence of doctor octopus a secret up to 2.

@williamturner7557

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewpenn1145 if you mean Molina being in NWH that’s shit had been knowledge for a while Molina even did a interview in like June where he confirmed his involvement

Its actually heartbreaking to see when Otto says, 'If they take me away, they'll take my arms'. Its really humanizing even after all he's done to see an old man afraid to have to watch as his body becomes nothing but a shell.

@Aviator-Chicken

5 жыл бұрын

Auzzie015 I think it’s also because his body has that thing simpler to ALS so his new arms are the only way he can walk grab things etc

@foxboiunknown320

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@Xehanort10

5 жыл бұрын

Didn't Stephen Hawking have the same condition Otto has in the game?

@dafilmqueen556

5 жыл бұрын

@@Xehanort10,I don't think so.Stephen Hawking couldn't walk and his vocal cords were destroyed.Dr Otto Octavious,on the other hand,is able to speak perfectly fine without problems.

@KGillis

5 жыл бұрын

@@dafilmqueen556 Stephen Hawking had ALS, much like what they allude to Doc Octavius having. I think they shied away from calling it ALS, but that's clearly what they were going for. It's a degenerative disease. Hawking was able to move just fine well into adulthood, and you can even find online a photo from his first wedding where he's standing next to his wife and only using a cane. Given time. Doc Octavius would eventually be just like Hawking. That being said, there are different forms of ALS, and Hawking was "lucky" that he had a form that was so slow moving that he was able to live as long as he did. Most don't live that long.

Small detail, but I found it neat how the schematics on otto's drawing boards became more wild and menacing looking throughout the story, signaling his change in personality

@CamC159

2 жыл бұрын

That, and how much rougher his hand writing starts to look due to his worsening condition

@cosneanumatei5117

2 жыл бұрын

Like the whiteboard which was covered in black with a black drawing of the arm in the middle. Like he drew over all of the possible tests and outcomes because he became obsessed with the arms.

@caldw615

2 жыл бұрын

@@CamC159 I think it also conveys the frustration he feels as his co-ordination and motor functions gradually degrade. It's rather tragic.

@Ofri1717

5 ай бұрын

And if you look around the lab nearing the breakdown of Octavious you can see the suit or the goggles he will wear, and he even comments about them. Such a cool and small detail

@phousefilms

5 ай бұрын

@@Ofri1717 Also, the gear he is making is for the Sinister Six(and, atop that, his making a motto for the company goes from "Building the World You Deserve"to "Building the World I Deserve". And the mission plan becomes "Destroy Oscorp".

What’s interesting is that you can see the limbs slowly becoming less human like and more octopus as time goes on. The reasons for making it like that are viable too, which is neat.

@alexp6013

2 жыл бұрын

The juggling arms feel like tentacles constricted in human shape. You can feel the violence that Doc Oc is ready to dish out, just underneath the skin, still limited by his humanity.

@rickyplaysyt4322

2 жыл бұрын

that's why his name as villain is "Doctor Octopus", however I think that it would be better if he had 8 tentacles instead of 4, because an octopus has 8 tentacles, so he would look like an octopus even more.

@Shotokan1001

2 жыл бұрын

@@rickyplaysyt4322 he has four regular limbs and four "prosthetic" limbs, that already equals eight in total.

@rickyplaysyt4322

2 жыл бұрын

@@Shotokan1001 something interisting is that in the game I never saw him getting mentionated as "Doctor Octopus" I always hear him as just Otto or Octavius.

@cosneanumatei5117

2 жыл бұрын

@@rickyplaysyt4322 well i can tell you a reason tgat is the most realistic. He started being doc ock like 3 days before gathering the sinister 6. He wasn't a criminal until then. Now that he is he just started doing bad things and got caught pretty easily. Spiderman had fights with rhino, electro, vulture and scorpion multiple times so that's how they came up with aliases ir nicknames. Notice how mister negative was only adressed "mr. Li" even though in the subtitles it was "mr. Negative". That's the only reason i can think of.

I love the fact that Doc Ock, an 50 year old withering man, manage to bring a dangerous team together, with him in charge.

@Trokaine

4 жыл бұрын

66 actually

@Jenna_Talia

3 жыл бұрын

Cause he literally is a brain with untapped potential trapped inside a rotting shell. He found a way to remove Rhino's armour within mere days. Same goes for the rest of the sinister six. He gave them reasons to obey him. Rewards for doing good by him.

@urfriendjimbo9433

3 жыл бұрын

hes 63

@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jenna_Talia See? Otto helps everyone! Except that he's helping the criminals to do his dirty work of bringing down Norman. He's the direct opposite of Peter.

@333mirage

3 жыл бұрын

Hes 5 years older than norman *how*

Honestly, Otto Octavius as a mentor to Peter is just a great choice! It worked so well in Spider-Man 2 and here.

@ryko1478

2 жыл бұрын

I think it works much better here than in Spider-Man 2

@introduction1266

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryko1478 yes this is my definitive dr ock

@applehazeva2739

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryko1478 yep

@DeepEye1994

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryko1478 To be fair a multi-hour game has more time to flash out the characters than a 2 hour long film that has more than just Peter and Otto.

@ryko1478

2 жыл бұрын

@@DeepEye1994 agree

I love that doctor octopus is a leader that actually cares for his team and is doing things to help them out like freeing Aleksi from his suit and bringing electro closer to his dream

@zylgp

2 жыл бұрын

I think I prefer the view that he's gone full sociopath. He is willing to say and do anything if it furthers his goal of destroying Osborn - greasing up the villains with their personal wants and needs was his way to make them work for him.

@theparrishshow9803

2 жыл бұрын

@@zylgp I personally like the point of view that he wants to benefit his team

@lordogordo9407

2 жыл бұрын

@@theparrishshow9803 idk , at otto’s very core he’s a good man, just broken from his hatred and spite. I really think he’d just tell the villains what they wanted to hear to get them to work for him, then screw them over later when it’s safe to do so

@bleachyboy3590

2 жыл бұрын

I can see him justifying it as a win win,he proves to himself hes still a good man by helping his teammates whilst also using them to advance his plans to destroy Norman,he could still quite easily be 'good' or 'bad' but Octavius isnt entirely 'good' or 'bad' here (at least not compared to the others) hes a fallen hero whos trying to justify himself as a good man doing the right thing,however what he views as the right thing is twisted

@tobeynegsyourfavoriteverse

2 жыл бұрын

I wish doc ock returns but that’s not conformed and the sad thing is that we never see gobby and doc ock teaming up:(

I love how this game builds the relationship between them and makes his inevitable betrayal that much more heart breaking. Sony pictures could learn a thing or 2 from this.

@arkevolver1254

2 жыл бұрын

@William Borgemo wut

@meisunebernadetta9868

2 жыл бұрын

Then in No Way Home they start him as evil to eventually redeem him with his peter parker

@zumaky18

2 жыл бұрын

Wait till Ned will become evil

@TheOriginal_Unaleska

2 жыл бұрын

The moment that Peter realised that Otto knew, I was heartbroken for Peter, I cried, it was a wonderful emotional cutscene.

@fynnthefox9078

Жыл бұрын

@@meisunebernadetta9868 Well, he was when he was pulled from his timeline.

Lines that hit like a truck "You were everything I wanted to be!" "I'll be trapped in this useless body!" "Peter? Peter where are you going? Peter. PETER!"

@patrickrichardson9183

5 жыл бұрын

Huey Nguyen “You Knew?”

@bads4905

5 жыл бұрын

also "Turn? turn? i worshipped you!" The way peter's voice is breaking was really authentic.

@CJ-ln5ov

5 жыл бұрын

Line that hit like Devil’s Breath “The truth is...you were only ever worth a DAMN...when you worked for ME! The truth is...you could never accept that I’m better than you! You’re a failure, Otto...and you always will be!!!”

@himeshoney

5 жыл бұрын

"You were my hero! I hate that you're making me do this!"

@damianherrera5700

5 жыл бұрын

I'M NOT CRYING YOU'RE CRYING!!!

I like how Peter drops the friendly neighbourhood's Spiderman personality and becomes ruthless real quick when he is hurt by Otto's revelation.

@Soulbone3

5 жыл бұрын

ditto. just the difference in the ways he utters the words "you knew" you can see as he cycles through sorrow over things turning out like this, feeling betrayed that a man he came to see as a father figure would do this to him, to sheer anger that all of this suffering, not just from peter himself but for may, mj, miles, all these people that are suffering, is because otto and li just want revenge on a single man. and not only that, but otto himself knew the pain he was going to bring peter and still did what he did. it'd be hard not to turn ruthless at that point.

@Benderbot50

5 жыл бұрын

This script for this game is incredible. During the fight Otto say's something to the effect of "you haven't suffered like I have" and I was actually full of rage for Peter at that point. Like how much more selfish could Otto be that he claims to have seen Peter as a son but doesn't recognize that Peter has suffered as much or more than he has? That's how you know that Otto was full of shit all game and that it was always about his ends, never about Peter. Also, that line serves to highlight why Peter and Otto make such good enemies. Both are brilliant men who have suffered tremendously throughout their lives, but while Otto is ultimately broken by his pain (like the weak man that he is) Peter continues to be Spider-Man, despite all the suffering that his powers have caused him. Earlier in the game when Peter gets poisoned he keeps hallucinating and all the things that Scorpion and Otto taunt him with are actually Peter's greatest insecurities. Spider-Man is defined by his suffering and by his fear that he's a failure and that he only hurts the people he's trying to help.

@stepanserdyuk4589

5 жыл бұрын

I don't think Otto is weak per se. They are similar, indeed - but they come from different places. Otto didn't have loving parent figures, teaching him what is good. Otto didn't have supermodel-like Gwens, Lizes and Mary Janes flocking around him. Otto weren't bitten by a radioactive invertebrate, granting him awesome powers and self-respect. You switch them, and they would easily become alternates of themselves. Superior Spider-man series gave us a hint of that.

@Benderbot50

5 жыл бұрын

That's the whole point of Spider-Man. Anyone can be good when it's easy. Between the tremendous amounts of loss he's experienced and how hard up he is for cash there is every reason for Peter to abuse his powers, but he doesn't. And I vehemently disagree with your view of Superior Spider-Man. Otto in Peter's body was a huge self-important asshole who put strain on a bunch of Peter's relationships and got the city to hate him again.

@oasisconstructions

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, and at the end, Otto needs Parker to be spiderman again because he was the superior one. So yes, Otto is a weaker person, which is understandable because Peter is an archetipic hero.

I honestly love how Otto is doing things involving prosthetics because he's soon to be completely paralyzed. It feels so real and genuine, and makes it all the more impactful and sad that Otto ended up falling to madness.

Fun Fact: the voice actor who voiced Doc Ock also voiced Rigby in Regular Show

@anthonygloria6377

Жыл бұрын

I can't unhear it now. All I hear is Rigby

@zerolayne8245

Жыл бұрын

Flashbacks to Rigby with the Playco Armboy-

@Haydenmartinez7164

Жыл бұрын

No wonder he sounded familiar

@Quantum722

Жыл бұрын

And Nonomiya from Yakuza 7

@IncredibleFulk1

Жыл бұрын

And Dr. Mordin Solas from Mass Effect.

I really like how they don't immediately have Otto be evil. They have him start out good, make him mentally change in a realistic way, and so it feels more hurtful when he abandons his ideals for revenge.

@bobbysworld281995

2 жыл бұрын

Makes you wonder if he's started being desperate THEN evil for himself over others. Or was it always there?

@Voldrim359

2 жыл бұрын

@Chris for power

@goofygoober779

2 жыл бұрын

@Chris Sauron, Doomsday (even though he kinda has a sad backstory, I think he would still be a killing machine even without it). These characters are pretty much the absolute opposite to everything a paragon is and/or strives to be.

@PR--un4ub

2 жыл бұрын

"Nuanced" villains are starting to becoming boring. There's a problem when more and more people are _sympathizing_ with *villains* of all characters.

@firetools

2 жыл бұрын

@@PR--un4ub Yeah there's a lot of what I call well intentioned extremists these days. They are more nuanced and people like them for being more relatable/realistic, but sometimes it's nice to have a villain that's just pure evil.

Hard to believe that's the same guy who voices Rigby in Regular Show.

@anonymousgoblin792

5 жыл бұрын

*NO WAY.* are you kidding me!? Holy shit!

@danielwood6833

5 жыл бұрын

dafuq? u serious? omg I can totally see that now 0o0

@goturbotube5971

5 жыл бұрын

Daryl Dixon OH MY GOD THE MOMENT I SAW THIS MY EYES WIDENED I WAS LIKE HOLY LORD

@primesapprentice2416

5 жыл бұрын

FOR REAL?!?!? WOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

@omarkarim2280

5 жыл бұрын

WOT?! WAIT NOW I JUST HEAR RIGBY! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO ME?!

The "You *Knew* " was horror inducing, the amount of anger, betrayal and sorrow but no ounce of hate. Peter really did love Otto, his betrayal only hurted him more, and the final note of pain was him walking away from a shell of man that he considered a hero.

@riradd92

Жыл бұрын

wait, why peter surprised when otto said parker at 33:57 ? peter must be not surprised cause otto knew peter is spiderman in the beginning of the game when peter tried to fix his suit in the lab and otto caught him? please explain to me

@Gebro_gaming891

Жыл бұрын

​@@riradd92 You got it so wrong. Otto at the beginning thought Peter just designes Spider-Man's equipment.

@BoginTheOrange

11 ай бұрын

​@@Gebro_gaming891Honestly, I feel like Otto immediately knew when he saw Peter with the suit, I feel like he just decided to pretend he didn't know to keep Peter calm since they were friends.

@Gebro_gaming891

11 ай бұрын

@@BoginTheOrange You may be right actually. That would explain why he spared him the first time.

I absolutely love the reveal of Octavious in this game. He wasn’t featured in the advertising once, so him being in the game was a complete surprise. The game begins with a comic accurate costume for Spider and same for Kingpin, so when Otto’s silhouette is in the lab and we see someone with a lab coat and four tentacle like metal wires in his back, our instinct tells us it’s Doc Ock. But no, it’s a friend of Peters

@jeffreypeters2803

2 жыл бұрын

They had me absolutely convinced that Green Goblin was going to be the antagonist with all of the Norman Osborn references in the trailers, but the moment I saw Otto I had a really good idea of what they were going to do, and it still broke my heart when it all went down

@Jackferrett6781

Жыл бұрын

They need to do that with Green Goblin in the second game

@marcusblackwell2372

9 ай бұрын

​@@Jackferrett6781Well they already kind of did hint at it at the end of the game when Harry was in the tank

@CosmicScythe69

6 ай бұрын

@@marcusblackwell2372about that

@mehdimoueddene7642

5 ай бұрын

​@@CosmicScythe69Anyone that thought that The Green Goblin would appear before the Third installment cruelly lacked logic

Game: *zooms in on doc oc's reflective goggles* My brain: "The power of the sun, in the palm of my hand."

@rosequartz4708

3 жыл бұрын

Finally some thinks the same think as me

@thomasnolastname8734

2 жыл бұрын

Before CGI though "The power of a beach ball, in the palm of my hand"

@iancuspinera1160

2 жыл бұрын

It's crazy that the anti-ock suit Peter uses in the final battle has the same eyes design of the Tobey McGuire's Spider-Man suit, the one who fought Doc Ock in the movies

@jedijack0577

2 жыл бұрын

Every time I see him climb/ walk with the arms, fight, or talk I here the doc ock theme from Spider-Man 2

@christianmohammed3728

2 жыл бұрын

Iconic

the voice acting is legendary, this is hands down the best spider-man ever.

@leojs5673

4 жыл бұрын

Holland does a far superior job

@burstingturtle

4 жыл бұрын

@@leojs5673 hahahaha no

@leojs5673

4 жыл бұрын

burstingturtle your profile picture kinda gives away your nostalgia-driven bias, old man

@KeithLeeMH

4 жыл бұрын

@@leojs5673 As an actor I disagree

@leojs5673

4 жыл бұрын

Keith Lee because you're supposedly an actor (not saying I believe you) why in the fuck would that make your opinion more valid? It doesn't take knowing how to act to tell a good Spider-Man, it takes knowing comic book history; a history to which Holland's version is the most loyal and true.

I love how heavy and mechanical the arms sound. I also like how instead of the arms somewhat controlling him, his disorder is fueling his hatred and evilness.

@mikephelps9238

2 жыл бұрын

If they make another Doc Ock like this one or the Raimi one, I hope that his hatred is fueled by both his disorder while the AI in the arms is influenced by Otto’s growing anger, causing the arms to gain 4 parts of his personality.

@shadowreezy3137

5 ай бұрын

That sounds genius

"Thank you Peter...for everything." He 100% knew he was already too far gone, but still didn't want Peter caught up in it. It makes this incarnation of Doc Oc all the more tragic.

This is how you do a tragic antagonist, NOT a tragic villain. There’s a huge difference and this Otto fulfills the first. I seriously felt bad for him the entire time. Who wouldn’t do what he did after all the shit he’d been through? Not to mention the shit that’s actually happening to his body and mind. Well done to the writers and actor who portrayed him.

@Jim-ke3vj

5 жыл бұрын

Perfectly worded bud.

@tatesmith7140

5 жыл бұрын

Nah he's a villain dude, he knew he was spidey and yet he knew that he was hurting people and could possibly be hurting peter and his family. Though I felt bad for him for most of the game I ended up hating him so much at the end

@marcsuraci7759

5 жыл бұрын

To think he’s voiced by Rigby

@12227UserName

5 жыл бұрын

I agree that the character was well done. And I'm not even a fan of the Spiderman franchise. But any way you look at it, he's still a villain. Despite all of his misfortunes and flaws, it's no excuse for essentially becoming a terrorist, willing to cause terror, destruction and death just to make a trivial point. Still though, he's definitely a tragic villain. If I was Peter, I'd show the guy a little bit of respect by visiting him in prison, out of sympathy. But he deserves everything he got.

@tayojones9460

5 жыл бұрын

@@12227UserName Osborn stole his bloody company. How is that trivial. Does not justify his actions, but you at least understand why he is doing this. And he is a complete villain. To me, a villain is someone who shows no remorse and cares about no one but himself. OCTOPUS may have been selfish in the end, but you can tell that there was apart of him thst regretted his actions, but felt he had no choice.

I 100% believe Otto knew right there that Peter was Spider-Man. He’s a genius mind, he even said it’s obvious. The great thing was when he saw how it shook Peter up, he decided to play it off and calm him. He was a real good friend. It wasn’t until he was against Peter he finally revealed that he was completely aware of who he was.

@Frazier16

2 жыл бұрын

I think at first he believed him then later figured it out

@wbariq8407

2 жыл бұрын

It was more obvious when Dr. Octavious sent a new Spider-Man gadget to Peter's phone instead of Spider-Man's.

@mavisseafoam

2 жыл бұрын

@@Frazier16 doctor Octavius is way too smart for that. I’m sure he knew from the beginning.

@Frazier16

2 жыл бұрын

@@mavisseafoam he probably figured it out a few minutes after he left

@superevolvedshinamalgamleo8168

2 жыл бұрын

@@mavisseafoam yup

I like how the arms that Dr.Octavius makes in the game aren't simply there to allow him to hold "The power of the Sun, in the palm of my hand" but instead are actually required for his continued wellbeing, as he has that "Degenerative Neurological Disorder" which makes his muscles weak/unresponsive, he needs the arms to live a normal life... but due to the intense neural load and his deep hatred for Norman Osborn, they inadvertantly corrupted his mind

@TheOriginal_Unaleska

2 жыл бұрын

Makes him more sympathetic, huh?

@Mannyhdz0052

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't really make him any more sympathetic then Sam raimis doc ock since he created the arms for the sole purpose of stabilizing fusion and making renewable energy for the entire world only for him to miscalculate and end up having his wife dead and his entire life going to waste, then he gets corrupted by the arms who were designed only for the fusion so they steal and make equipment to make the machine again only for peter to stop him and convince to give up the thing he wants most for the right thing.

This story line was heartbreaking, because we've all been Otto in one way.

@memecliparchives2254

2 жыл бұрын

No matter how many times I replay the story, it always brings me to tears.

@hobomike6935

2 жыл бұрын

I think Otto got it way worse than all of us did combined tho…

@almerosepwanzaky6342

7 ай бұрын

​@@JL32506depends on how you look at it tho, your legacy is literally the deepest worst version of yourself

"... you *knew*!" That line. That line was hands down the best of the game, even with it being one of the best written games in 2018. At that moment, Peter understood exactly who Octavius was. It didn't to him that Peter was Spider-Man. Peter, who he claimed to consider a son to him. He still did everything he did; releasing supervillains, spreading a supervirus, killing who knows how many people. The fact that he did all of that, that he didn't hesitate, even after knowing who Peter was, was the breaking point for Peter. That line was his heart breaking and the void being replaced with rage. God, this was such a good game.

@Daboss-kq3jm

3 жыл бұрын

That line hit like the train that hit tobey

@matthewayvar9393

3 жыл бұрын

Well duh he knew he saw his suit

@marcusgalimba7629

3 жыл бұрын

Although for me the "YOU WERE EVERYTHING I WANTED TO BE! BUT YOU JUST THREW THAT AWAY WITH THIS *drops metal arm*) line was better, had more meaning.

@prabeshgurung1067

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthewayvar9393 yeah, but we thought he only thought that Peter was spidey’s designer and gadget maker. It was only then we were revealed at some point he realised it was him the whole time

@matthewayvar9393

3 жыл бұрын

@@prabeshgurung1067 oh come on it was obvious

Poor Otto Octavius. Lost control of his life, lost his livelihood, lost control of his body, and eventually lost control of his mind. Just a life of losing. No wonder he felt like a loser.

@DarsiPadilla

5 жыл бұрын

If I can recall, Otto's childhood is one where he has little self-respect, despite his intellect.

@BlackDiamond2718

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like Rigby

@juanpedraw4245

3 жыл бұрын

@@DarsiPadilla he was beaten by his alcoholic father, and he's also bullied a lot as a kid. His mother pushed him and supported him to become an atomic scientist, and he invented the mechanical arms, but she didn't allow him to find love. She betrayed Otto when she started dating other men. She died of a heart attack when she and Otto argued about this subject. Then Otto became workaholic, arrogant, and a loner. He didn't sleep or eat either just to finish his work. One day, his experiment got out of hand and it exploded, which led to the Doctor Octopus we know today.

@DarsiPadilla

3 жыл бұрын

@@juanpedraw4245 that'a right.

@supersaiyan30-

3 жыл бұрын

@@juanpedraw4245 Wow... Poor Otto all he needed was a friend and wife, no scratch that: Love from others.

I like how both raimi and the people who made this actually went ahead and made otto be like a really cool uncle before inevitably becoming doc ock

@Broomer52

Жыл бұрын

The foundations existed before that. The experiment that fused the tentacles to Otto in the comics is basically the same as in the Raimi movie. He was just less sympathetic in his original origin story. In every version of the villain they always make it a point that Otto made the arms to compensate for his bodies limitations. It’s not hard to make a version of the villain that was once a good man.

@rickyronny4019

6 ай бұрын

@@Broomer52true

The thumbnail looks like he did a pretty good job so far

@Fright_-ck6iw

2 жыл бұрын

He does kinda looked like Mathieu Coté

@EggNog5708

2 жыл бұрын

Mathieu cote in 30 years

@RomanSnow

2 жыл бұрын

I did not expect to find a DbD reference here

@gennarosevero1856

2 жыл бұрын

@@EggNog5708 Matthieu after losing the “stranger things” license

@ThatGuyorSum

2 жыл бұрын

Aren't you the guy who made those L4D2 parodies like a decade ago? If so, hell yea glad to see you're still around man.

See, the thing I appreciate about this Doc Oc version is that it treats the arms as the scientific breakthrough they should be. In Rami's movie, as much as I love it, the arms are treated as a scientific afterthought. But the implications of having a neural connection with artificial limbs would be a huge breakthrough in the real world.

@eoftar3192

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say so. He was obviously showing off, if you can call it that. "See these super advanced robotic limbs? Oh, these are nothing... prepare for a real treat now". He was flexing in what he believed to be his moment of glory.

@rabd3721

2 жыл бұрын

@@eoftar3192 In the movie, James Franco makes a big deal about how Otto's fusion energy project will make them rich and famous, but... the arms alone would ABSOLUTELY do that, for the reasons I posted earlier. Maybe the sun experiment was a failure but holy hell, a neural link with robotic limbs? That should still get you the Nobel Prize.

@Zauchi

2 жыл бұрын

Going on a whim with the multiverse in mind, but maybe in Raimis universe the arms were not that great.

@maxwella.gamingps4631

2 жыл бұрын

That is because of ambitions. They had two projects and Oscorp was oaying for the fusion one. The arms were a "means to an end" but were still an amazing scientific discovery nonetheless. Its like, trying to uncover a project, you invent something new for it. Even though whst you invented is groundbreaking, the project is the focus. I.e. imagine if NASA is building a spaceship that can go lightspeed, and for that, they create a G-Suit that can withstand the pressure. Thr G-Suit is a groundbreaking creatjon in itself, but what NASA will announce is the ship they crested, with the suits as a bonus.

@theparrishshow9803

2 жыл бұрын

In that movie the arms were just a tool used in a bigger experiment

Lord, watching Otto trying to rationalize with Peter is heartbreaking. Especially his begging him to come back basically.

@carsenmaxwell3336

5 жыл бұрын

I hated watching that because I could never just abandon someone like that

@Adam-jn7nc

4 жыл бұрын

he stabbed him intending to kill him 2min prior - he is the reason Aunt may is sick no remorse form me

@pixy8897

4 жыл бұрын

In that moment he wasn't our good Doctor Octavius anymore... He was already Doctor Octopus, and even tried to blackmail Peter, with hes secret.

@CountDVB

4 жыл бұрын

@@carsenmaxwell3336 Yet he anandoned his morals and conscious and prettu much tried to blackmail him.

@pob_42

4 жыл бұрын

The attempt to reconcile with peter in that last moment can be boiled down to one line. "Of course, your secret will be safe with me" Thats deceitful and manipulative, and is the blatant hint to Peter that Otto's mind is permanently damaged from the neural link.

The voice actor for peter parker is brilliant. I love how he conveyed the subtle change in the two voice lines with “You knew?!” In total shock to “YOU KNEW!” In anger as it dawns on him that the man peter saw as a father figure and friend worked so hard to jeopardize his life and his family’s lives

@driplerthadripper

2 жыл бұрын

He's ben ten aswell i think , so legendary

@unimportantcommenter673

2 жыл бұрын

The voice actor is named Yuri Lowenthal I believe.

@alexsilva28

2 жыл бұрын

Phenomenal voice acting all across. The actor that does JJJ is amazing too

@jakomioftherose2434

Жыл бұрын

@@unimportantcommenter673 Yupp. Good ol' Yuri. He did a great job in this game.

@capitatecab6049

Жыл бұрын

Also his grunts of pain when he’s stabbed with the tentacle, and his whimper when its out makes him feel more real and vulnerable, like an actual human feeling pain

"You always were the smartest guy in the room." Damn, the sheer venom in the delivery of that line is just brilliant.

When Otto thanked Peter after turning off the interface when he begged him to turn it off, that was probably the last time the real Otto was really there before getting completely corrupted.

@superevolvedshinamalgamleo8168

2 жыл бұрын

yup

@tyshco2969

2 жыл бұрын

That was the last time Peter saw Otto Octavius, who he saw afterwards was Doctor Octopus.

@BenBen-vh5qo

2 жыл бұрын

Timestamp?

@joshriley2936

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like the last time I saw the real Otto was when Peter convinced him to turn it off himself in the full 4-arm reveal. He relented for a moment, and even though it was short lived, it seemed genuine. But then again, right after, the way he looked at him and smiled, waving him away saying that he'll keep at it and work out some bugs, it seemed kind of, well, sinister... and I can't help but wonder if his momentary hesitation was actually just him realizing that he needs to be more subtle to not alarm Peter too much and expose his intentions. I guess that's a testament to how well this entire character arc was. It's hard to tell exactly where the Otto that Peter idolized stopped showing up, and when he was fully replaced by Doc Ock, or if he was even gone altogether. Heck, even at the very end, I was starting to wonder if some of the old Otto was showing up one last time. It feels like you can still see glimpses even up to the end of the story, but sometimes the way it's delivered makes you wonder if it's a facade or if it's sincere. It's so well done, hats off to everyone involved.

"Peter Parker, brilliant but lazy"

@keeganstormblade5456

4 жыл бұрын

"Being brilliant’s not enough, young man. You have to work hard. Intelligence is not a privilege, it’s a gift. And you use it for the good of mankind."

@Princeofthekoopas18

4 жыл бұрын

@@keeganstormblade5456 But it was my Dream

@keeganstormblade5456

4 жыл бұрын

@@Princeofthekoopas18 "Sometimes we have to be steady and give up the thing we want the most. Even our dreams."

@Kriz10010

3 жыл бұрын

Spiderman 2 references

@Princeofthekoopas18

3 жыл бұрын

@@keeganstormblade5456 He Right

They did Dr. Octavius so right in this game, he’s humanized very well and you genuinely feel terrible seeing him descend into such a desperate, dangerous path

This might be the best Octavius has ever been portrayed. His character arc going from a good man who wants to help people to a supervillain through no real fault of his own made me genuinely feel bad for him and the final scene he was in hit me in the feels so hard.

"YOU'RE A FAILURE OTTO! AND YOU ALWAYS WILL BE!" If you're gonna die, do it as a boss roasting your killer.

@JinxTheLooneyToon915

3 жыл бұрын

Marvel's Spider-Man - Part II Goblin (It's like I said before. You're a failure, Otto! And now, you'll die like one!) Doc Ock (No! NOOOOOOO!)

@Jenna_Talia

3 жыл бұрын

Kind of hated that scene tbh. Who would antagonise someone trying to kill them? Especially if it's by being dropped from hundreds of feet in the air.

@shadowgoethe

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jenna_Talia To each his own XD

@memecliparchives2254

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jenna_Talia I mean that's Norman Osborn to the core. He's not gonna give in even in death.

@juanpedraw4245

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jenna_Talia he's got big balls energy

3:44 The fact that Peter continues to wear that suit at the start of Miles Morales shows that he still values his friendship with Otto.

@budusbusham3324

2 жыл бұрын

That and it looks absolutely banging

@icecream4you161

2 жыл бұрын

That and Insomiac didn't want to create a whole new suit.

@mynamejeff2436

2 жыл бұрын

@@icecream4you161 more that they didn’t need to

@erikfantasia9985

2 жыл бұрын

Well you know Peter is able to discern the difference between the actual Octavious and the mentally alteterd Octavious. And he knows that he was partially responsible for what happened to Otto.

@truthone25

2 жыл бұрын

@@icecream4you161 you realize they could take any other suit or use the ones that exist

Dont get me wrong. I love Alfred Molinas preformance, but this is arguably the greatest Doc Ock adaptation of all time.

@johnnyjay102

2 жыл бұрын

This is just the best Spiderman overall. Best portrayal of the villains, best black cat, great aunt may, actually has miles morales in it...... it's too good

@Mannyhdz0052

7 ай бұрын

Nah, Alfred Molina is still the best Doc Ock

@furious_pie466

6 ай бұрын

⁠@@lucgermain9310 we live in a world with 8 billion people and you think nobody cares about miles also no she was not the best may she was you’re favourite may there’s no need to treat what you’re saying as factual when it isn’t

@Kazuma_Drake

4 ай бұрын

​@@furious_pie466look kid you don't read comics so you wouldn't know who's the best May she was the best and most Accurate Nancy Linari is an awesome May as well

@furious_pie466

4 ай бұрын

@@Kazuma_Drake 1: Calling someone a kid doesn’t make your argument look any better 2: How would you know I don’t read them and even though I don’t that doesn’t mean i don’t understand what makes the character good 3: Your opinion isn’t a fact everyone has their own thoughts and feelings on stuff so it’s foolish to say a certain version of a character is objectively the best version And before anyone gets it twisted I think both interpretations of aunt May are fantastic versions of the character

This game did something I've never seen a game do. Every single one of us, each and every one, knew the ending. We knew exactly what was gonna happen, from the second they said his name was Otto Octavius. And it *still* hurt to watch.

Peter and Otto's voice actors are on another goddamn level. There is _so_ much emotion conveyed in every line. The after-battle scene made me cry harder than any fiction in a _long_ time.

@WilliamSalyers

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Something you may not have realized: Yuri and I acted out those scenes in full-body motion-capture. Insomniac used our entire performances, not just our voices.

@spongebobsquarepants2981

2 жыл бұрын

@@WilliamSalyers WILLIAM SALYERS?! IS THAT REALLY YOU?!

@WilliamSalyers

2 жыл бұрын

@@spongebobsquarepants2981 LOL! If I were anybody else, why would I choose THAT guy to impersonate? 😉

@Petey0707

2 жыл бұрын

@@WilliamSalyers You did an amazing job, really felt like I was watching a movie, incredible stuff.

@markymar

2 жыл бұрын

@@WilliamSalyers YOOOOOOO

I feel genuinely bad that how things turn out in the end. The relation between Otto and Peter was so sincere in my eyes about they deeply cared each other with mutual respect that at the end of the story, I couldn't even dare call him "Doctor Octopus" because it's too insulting that this portrayal of "Doctor Octavius" is so heartbreaking, it's like losing a friend turning into your worst enemy. I would even say that Insomniac did a great job for the reimagining of the caracther to his downfall ... I mean look at 20:07, this pause that is silent but says "I'm so sorry ..." because he knew that Spider-man was Peter...

@WOOFBandits

5 жыл бұрын

U r my new fav person... decoded so beautifully

@anonymousgoblin792

5 жыл бұрын

We need more people like you in the internet. You summarized Doc Ock here perfectly. If they ever make this into a series and not just one game they have to so much potential with the other Spider-Man villains. But here. This is by far my favorite interpretation of Doctor Octopus.

@bowlofpasta8846

5 жыл бұрын

Judging by that pfp you don't even have feelings

@ShoShoArts

5 жыл бұрын

I could tell,because even though there was rain,I saw a tear go down from his goggles.

@Darkvega2k7

5 жыл бұрын

On the one hand I agree with you, on the other I don't. In the end, I think Octavius did care for Peter in his own warped way. But the fact is, he knew he was Spider-man from the moment he saw him with the costume. Then throughout the course of the game, armed some of his greatest enemies who had no qualms with killing him in the past, against him. Purposely endangering Peter's life. When Peter realized that fact, I'm sure he started to wonder how much the Otto he knew was the inhibitor chip, and how much was it the real Otto. Tragic tale, no doubt about it. But Otto was still very much a monster for what he did.

I love how the Doc Ock proceeds to put a gas mask on almost 10 seconds after he released the toxins

@bradleyadams5252

6 ай бұрын

He MIGHT not be thinking clearly.

@bradleyadams5252

6 ай бұрын

With the faulty arms wired directly into his brain and all.

@theparrishshow9803

6 ай бұрын

@@bradleyadams5252 If he’s intelligent enough to build and operate those arms and synthesize a toxic gas to poison the whole city, I think he’d be smart enough to put on the mask as soon as possible to avoid being poisoned by his own chemical weapon.

I love this portrayal of Doc-Oc, when I see this version of Doc-Oc I don't see a bad guy I see a man who has a great idea and mind but who has reached his breaking point. His creation exploited that breaking point. Love this character and hope he finds redemption in future games!

@SavageJarJar

2 жыл бұрын

So you’re a Doc Ock fan but shorten his name to “Doc-Oc”???

@viktorvolkov5314

2 жыл бұрын

@@SavageJarJar and? Your point?

@kraziscribbs4552

Жыл бұрын

@@SavageJarJar That's a weird thing to complain about dude

@SavageJarJar

Жыл бұрын

@@kraziscribbs4552 It’s not, he is incorrect.

@kraziscribbs4552

Жыл бұрын

@@SavageJarJar no it's not? like you said, they shorted the already shorted word. How is that incorrect lmao

You know what's going to happen. You know *exactly* what's going to happen. ...and yet, _somehow,_ it still hurts bad, man. Bravo, Insomniac. Bravo.

@nz7677

5 жыл бұрын

Of course we knew what was going to happen, Doc Ock is one of the most popular super villains. Insomniac then decided to make Octavius an inspiring, relatable character. That way, we didn't want to fight him.

@sjjzak3133

3 жыл бұрын

@@nz7677 he often is...

@katakurifan5213

3 жыл бұрын

@@nz7677 Like what happened with Mr Freeze in Batman the Animated series and like Doc Ock in Spiderman 2 as well as Sandman in Spider-man 3

@r15kyify

3 жыл бұрын

@@katakurifan5213 and Two-Face in The Dark Knight

@WillieManga

3 жыл бұрын

That's the sad part; fate will very rarely be kind to Doc Ock. It's like some cross-universe karma; other versions of him are so evil that they affect even the most innocent versions of him to lead him down such a path.

Is it weird that this kind of portrayal of Otto is the kind that I would've expected from the MCU?

@The94Venom

5 жыл бұрын

If not a movie, this game would have made the perfect Netflix series.

@remiel2436

5 жыл бұрын

When i played this Game i thought that this would be the perfect end for TAS movie series ignoring Harry and Norman stuff in tas 2

@joshualagrimas9555

5 жыл бұрын

Better than Spider man 2 movie,Justice done right, bad guys out into prison, It's all I ever wanted for a spider man game and I'm gonna get it.

@gentlemanmaniac9992

5 жыл бұрын

let's be realistic here even if they get mark Hamill I doubt they would try too top afred Molina's ock doc i'm kind of expecting (and hoping) for him to be a generic mad scientist and green goblin right hand man in the Mcu

@ozairchishti1264

5 жыл бұрын

If I'm gonna be honest they basically just gave him the Lizard's story. He's a well meaning scientist working for the betterment of humanity while also trying to cure his own disability who ends up losing sight of what's good and becomes deranged from the obsession of completing his project.

36:00 The way Otto's voice actor shouts... Goosebumps... This is way better than any movie out there.

It’s so heavy-hitting to watch the relationship between Peter and Otto finally crumble at the end. Peter still had hope in the Octopus up until the very end, and it crushed him in the end when he realized Otto was too far gone.

I knew what Otto would eventually become, but I liked his character so much that I didn't want it to happen. That's good writing right there.

I’ll admit this doc oct reminds me so much of the one from spider man 2, they started off as good people in the beginning but eventually turned evil due to others

@meguy4758

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@SoddingSuperHero

5 жыл бұрын

The Doc Oc in SM2 was different, the Sun particle generator affected his neural interface thus causing voices coming from the metal tentacles talking to him , causing him to spiral down a criminal path The one in this Spidy game, Doc Oc was already obsessed and infuriated with Norman Osborn , him discovering neural interface and later on having that motor control damage to his altering his personality + having a personal vendetta only further feed into his obsession while he secretly plotted revenge right under Pete"s nose

@ozairchishti1264

5 жыл бұрын

@Velocerbate The comics one is pretty significant at this point as well. Sure he's not some tragic sob story but Superior Spider-Man is one of the best Spidey and Doc Ock stories of all time since it peels back the layers and deconstructs Spidey and Octavius as characters. I'm honestly hoping they use that story in these games at some point since Doc Ock is established as already losing his motor functions. I could definitely see him going after Peter's body and becoming Superior Spidey by swapping minds since his arms already failed.

@actionvids35

5 жыл бұрын

Otto is great character that that had to made poor mistakes in order to save him self. He is not a villan mor like anti-hero

@fallenscythe

5 жыл бұрын

I loved that series . I was actually hoping for a superior spider-man costume.

15:27 this is actually an important detail since this makes ottos arms react faster then peters spider-sense which i find interesting

The writing in this game was so good that I was shocked that Doc Oc, one of the most cartoonishly evil members of Spider Man's rogues gallery, was actually a villain this time around.

15:04 Watch this whole cutscene, at the start Otto is limping, probably due to his condition worsening. But when he has the arms out, he uses them to support himself and can walk, to a degree, normally

@cosneanumatei5117

2 жыл бұрын

Well yes he stated that he had his motor neurons worsening and that he would lose control of his motor functions within a year. I mean if he escapes raft he needs those arms for everything.

@dignusdingus3709

2 жыл бұрын

@@cosneanumatei5117 Just pointing out an awesome attention to detail the animators/mocap actor put in

When he was crying for Peter it really broke my heart

@HomelessAkunin

5 жыл бұрын

honestly couldn't agree anymore it was like watching a carer for a disabled person just giving up on them.

@wandawakanda8103

5 жыл бұрын

its heartbreakingly haunting

@MagnsATK98

5 жыл бұрын

Where?

@trevorphilips4925

5 жыл бұрын

i didn't wanted peter to leave him but otto was the reason aunt may got sick and died moments later

@doctor_whoey3857

5 жыл бұрын

Same, only time i've ever cried in a video game

The worst part of all this is the guilt Peter must feel knowing that maybe he could have saved Otto if he had paid a little more attention and hadn’t kept shoving him to the wayside. And by extension, Aunt May and everyone else who fell to Devil’s Breath.

I really loved Otto in this game you could really feel for the man and understand his motivations and it was heartbreaking to see not just the man you worked with but a huge friend turn into your biggest enemy, honestly everyone knew how this was gonna turn out but man was I hoping it wouldn’t, I mean Otto just seemed like a great man… crazy how this game can bring out so much emotion

I looked at this again, and I realized something. Octavius and Osborn's story is very similar to Thomas Edison and Nikola Tesla's story.

@Javer80

4 жыл бұрын

That's a game I'd play.

@juanpedraw4245

4 жыл бұрын

@@tyrellwilson9334 oops, hehe sorry. Thank you for correcting me.

@agentwash1

4 жыл бұрын

*puts down newspaper* by Joveh he got it

@gutsbigfan

3 жыл бұрын

Minus the evil octopus tentacles part

@monsoon1303

3 жыл бұрын

Which one is Edison and which one is Tesla?

JESUS I CANT GET OVER HOW GOOD THE GRAPHICS ARE

@davidroberts7352

5 жыл бұрын

about the story and the acting, that too was amazing

@justanotherstarcoshipper8641

5 жыл бұрын

Have you seen RE2 or DMC5's graphics?

@elmantishrimp1689

4 жыл бұрын

Especially from Insomniac, this was damn impressive

@solidus1995

4 жыл бұрын

Eh these are just cutscenes

@solidus1995

4 жыл бұрын

It's a pretty game just not the best looking, spider man games take a lot to simulate

31:22 genuinely amazed at how they foreshadow Norman being the Green Goblin here. Can't wait to see what they do with him next.

@lochness5524

11 ай бұрын

How does this foreshadow him becoming the green goblin?

@seth12786

11 ай бұрын

@@lochness5524 If you kisten well, you can hear the goblin's screech like voice yelling no before Norman's voice comes bck

@rickblaine9670

11 ай бұрын

@@lochness5524 I’d say it’s in the sense that you see how truly ruthless and evil he is. Instead of trying to save his skin, he used what he thought could very well be his last words to further hurt Otto. Like, what did Mr. J say about last words and a man showing his true self when he’s about to die? Well, Norman thought he was about to die, and he showed his true self: the cruel, ruthless bastard that he’s gonna fully turn into as the Green Goblin.

@Jackferrett6781

11 ай бұрын

Can’t wait to fight him when Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 comes out

@LearningGabriel

6 ай бұрын

Finally someone says it. Norman Osborne was being just as villainaous as Otto was in this scene. The dialogue between him and Otto really should show the player that Norman is no where near a good person, and is just as corrupt as Otto if not more so. And yet I really don’t understand how it flies over nearly everyone’s head when I look up reviews of the this game.

Even at the very start of this video, you can see that the tubes that Otto is connected to resemble the placement of his future tentacles. That combined with the shot of the prosthetic arm extending out like a tentacle is god-tier foreshadowing, and makes me love this game even more than I already do.

I love the line “For the first time in my life, I don’t feel like a failure, I feel like me.” You empathize with Otto because I think we all know what it’s like to be in that situation, the idea of finally feeling like a winner and that you’ve accomplished something; this version and the Spider-Man 2’s Doc sock isn’t great just because he’s a cool looking bad guy, it’s because that he’s a person, and that’s what a villain should be, a person who in their own dark world believes they are right; not to mention that Salyers and Molina give the best performances ever to this amazing character, and it can’t also go without saying that Lowenthal and Maguire are just as great as the previously said two actors

@Kriz10010

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, and uh im sorry for this but.... _Doc Sock 🧦_

@boianko

2 жыл бұрын

This is especially true for spider man villains I think. They are nearly always very damaged, but ultimately good people, at least in the cinematic releases. They are tragic and their powers never really feel like something that defines their character, but their character shapes their powers.

This is the definitive Doctor Octopus, he's always been my favourite Spider-Man villain, but at the end of the day, he was just a silly scientist with extra legs and a scheme for world domination, but this and Alfred Molina are the best and most complex Doc Ock portrayals

@Snavels

2 жыл бұрын

My favorite will still be Molina's. Especially his design. I just prefer the trenchcoat and the industrial look of the arms, plus how they move

@cosneanumatei5117

2 жыл бұрын

@@Snavels i love that this version gave a more realistic transformation than just "they fused with his body"

I can’t tell you how much I miss the old face

2:30 you can actually kinda see his thought proscess here "oh hes spiderman, that makes sense, wait hes gonna freak out now ive gotta come up with something"

The relationship they built between these 2 during the game was great, it made me feel bad knowing what would become of him, also doc has the best rendered face in the game

@ThatBeingCed

5 жыл бұрын

Naaah, the honor goes to Stan Lee's face

@wandawakanda8103

5 жыл бұрын

From the very beginning, I knew something was coming (not just because he is Doc Ock). Their relationship was so pure and close, I knew the creators were gonna rip it apart right in front of us (':

@joeytoofly5139

5 жыл бұрын

Alot of people forget in this game doc oc and peter have been working together for 8 years so it means much more

"It's because people like us have a duty, a responsibility, to use our talents in the service of others, even if they don't appreciate it" "With great power, comes great responsibility" Well played Insomniac.

@RickyG93

4 жыл бұрын

but then Peter said 'No you're wrong!" which I didn'y get.

@ezplays5622

4 жыл бұрын

@@RickyG93 Because that basically wasn't the thing Dr. Octavius was doing, he was doing the opposite, that's why Peter said he was wrong

@tylerrichardson3034

4 жыл бұрын

@@RickyG93 Its because it's the same concept but they both view it differently. Peter sees it as helping his equals, Otto sees it as keeping control over those beneath him.

@BeeyothGaming

4 жыл бұрын

“Intelligence is not a privilege, it's a gift. And you use it for the good of mankind.”

@agentwash1

4 жыл бұрын

@@RickyG93 same idea, but approaching from different directions

Otto’s genius just can’t be appreciated.He gave a person a new arm!

“They’ll take my arms! I’ll be trapped in this useless body” was so heart wrenching in the end, even with that final threat, I saw him as someone who was deeply afraid of losing not necessarily power, but afraid to lose the work he’s done to try and solve his weakening body.

I always felt that at around 20:06, with Otto Octavius knowing Peter was Spider-Man, you could see some sign of remorse that Otto knew he was hurting Peter, both physically and emotionally, yet sadly his vengeance to bring Osborn down was far greater than his friendship with Peter.

@shadowmight1242

5 жыл бұрын

The story between the two is, so multi-layered for a superhero story that it's unreal. I mean Arkham has a good story; but its character's weren't as human or complex as this. This however is a true evolution of what people expect from these kinds of stories, these character's and it's amazing ;)

@nelsonivan9297

5 жыл бұрын

I don't know if I'm wrong but at that moment you can see that out of all rain drops falling off his face you can notice a tear dropping from his left eye(the tear seems to stand out and it made this scene really tragic) and just by thinking that I became even sadder than before.

@prabeshgurung1067

3 жыл бұрын

@@nelsonivan9297 I never can tell if that’s tears or the rain

@SnapOoooThereItIs

3 жыл бұрын

i kept wondering afterwards why he would give spiderman a 'warning' and not just gut him right there

@YaBoiKeLz

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely just the rain, but he was big salty with himself for doing that to Pete, you can tell

11:29 I LOVE the part where the prosthetic arm extends and starts to resemble a tentacle!

@Clevernamegoeshere

3 жыл бұрын

Oh my god I never noticed that until just now

@MegaFafnir

3 жыл бұрын

@@Clevernamegoeshere And you see the flash of inspiration in Otto's eyes!

@joseescobar2076

2 жыл бұрын

@@Clevernamegoeshere g

It's amazing how he has the same va as Rigby from regular show

Seeing Otto just flip on a dime trying to convince Peter by saying that his mind was affected gave me chills, since it was what Goblin did in the movie right before his death

I still think the reveal of Octavius alone was amazing. When I heard Peter's working at a lab and he gets a call from a doctor my immediate response was "Cool, Kurt Conners is in the game. Wonder if we'll get Lizard." And then I see the wires mimicking the arms and my jaw drops. Doc Ock's in the game. With Conners Lizard is a possibility, with Octavius Doc Ock is inevitable.

@bowcake1065

2 жыл бұрын

Well, lizard is gonna be in the next one

@sentientmustache8360

2 жыл бұрын

Lizard was also teased, you can find a backpack with a vial of his blood, and he appears alongside Norman and Harry (Venom) at the end credits scene of Miles Morales

The wholesomeness of Doc Ock makes the betrayal even more heartbreaking.

35:39 that scream of pain...Yuri Lowenthal was amazing in this game.

“Well, I’ll leave you to it” *takes the entire bag of chinese with him*

Rigby literally had to make 4 octopus arms just to beat mordecai in punchies

@8ightythre3

2 жыл бұрын

Had to beat him in punchies somehow 🤷‍♂️

@Mr.Sa33

2 жыл бұрын

@@8ightythre3 HEY

@jacobschnabl6353

2 жыл бұрын

“Where are you Norman?! I wanna play punchies!!”

@ohnobro1424

2 жыл бұрын

S T O P T A L K I N G

@sentientmustache8360

2 жыл бұрын

“And then i’ll be all like WE’VE DONE ENOUGH TESTING!”

Otto's gradual decay into insanity in this is considerably nuanced, human and believable being as it's determined by a number of things, i.e. his mind deteriorating, his limb condition worsening that therefore continued to drive further his obsession of wanting to improve his body which integrally leads him becoming increasingly influenced by the neural hub interface as it damages his brain. However, in the Spider-Man 2 movie Otto's downfall was down to the hub neural control chip being destroyed at the accident which prevented the metal arms from controlling him. This is better overall execution as everything leads into each-other as a cohesive package in believable manner that you cannot help sympathize considering that the damage to Otto here, both mentally and physically is permanent. Though it's clear that the motions of the character, the way he moves around, depicted is undoubtedly similar to Spider-Man 2's interpretation off the character that it's obviously a huge source of inspiration in making of this story; there's simply no denying that this pretty much surpasses it in nearly every single way in terms of the writing of the character. The story of this game truly explored the source of Otto Octavias's inner ambitions like no other Spider-Man medium. Otto's obsessive workaholic nature of wanting to change the world with technology along with the consequently touchy and jealous bitterness the disgruntled scientist harbored for Norman Osborne's corruption as well as accomplishments; whilst in turn ignoring his own flaws and finally his creeping disabilities that eventually turned him from a good noble scientist who only wanted the betterment of mankind to a sadistic monster bent on revenge purely out of egotistical pride.

@nostalgia_junkie

5 жыл бұрын

this game really is like a reimagining of spidey 2 ps2

@godofwar234regi5

4 жыл бұрын

Visitormassacre Ock has always been the evil counterpart to Spidey.

@deinonychus1948

3 жыл бұрын

also in Spiderman 2 they never mentioned (to my knowledge) the neuralogical disorder that made his body basically useless

@prabeshgurung1067

3 жыл бұрын

@@deinonychus1948 I don’t think it was the case in the film. It was something for this game I believe

@xenodrone3367

3 жыл бұрын

It's also easier to flesh out a charector in a 18 hour game than a 1 1/3 hour movie

Otto didn't treat Peter like a student. He treated him like a son to him.

The ending made me cry like a baby I couldn't hold my tears. The fact peter worshipped him since he was 6 years old and only to end like this is so so heartbreaking. I love this relationship between them so much.

Can we just take a second to appreciate the way the typical “with great power must also come great responsibility” idea becomes twisted and far darker after it’s been shaken around by Otto? He takes a message meant to inspire acts of heroism, selflessness, and sticking up for the little guy and, thanks to deep-seated bitterness and a crumbling psyche, turns it into an insane ramble on those “beneath” men like he and Peter. Tries to use it as his own justification. That’s one cool thing about everything Spider-Man: this idea of responsibility comes up and is played with again and again. And Peter, a hero to his core, always sees through the dark spins that other may put on it, sees through to its true message, and does the right thing... Even when it hurts like hell.

@JC111414

3 жыл бұрын

I like how he tries to convince Peter, but then he threatens to expose his secret, making Peter realized he is too far gone to help. The arms and chip didn't turned him like this. They only amplied his existing dark emotions.

@ince55ant

2 жыл бұрын

its a great use of norman osbourne as a shared antagonist. Spiderman is absolute about his morals. While Doc Ock thinking he can decide who lives and dies sends him down a dark path.

@ConsiderTheCrows

2 жыл бұрын

Peter will always hold to the true meaning of responsibility with power to help people. Because of his uncle.

To me Norman Osborn was the real villain of the entire game. Both Li and Ock may be antagonists but they were victims of Oscorp, one literally and the other taken advantage of. Everything Norman did was out of self gain and selfish ambition. Even when facing Doc Octavius with his life, instead of admitting all his wrongs, he decided to further demoralize Octavius to the end. A real villain wouldn't show any remorse, and Osborn did just that. But even after all Octavius had done, he poured his heart out to Peter, although it wasn't 100%, it still showed his humanity towards the only person he had left.

@monsoon1303

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, well even he wasn't truly evil. Norman really did feel bad about killing Li's parents, truly loved his wife and did everything he could to help save his son's life.

@Adam-jn7nc

4 жыл бұрын

he poured his heart out to Peter and then started the blackmail talk about knowing who he is - nope Otto was already gone there

@krustykrabemployeepatricks3709

4 жыл бұрын

Tom Kurstjens It still doesn’t justify ordering Sable to kill Spiderman while gangs of escaped prisoners ravage the streets.

@mr_0n10n5

4 жыл бұрын

I mean Norman was trying to save his son. What I am wondering is why he didn't ask anyone for help. Octavius would have helped him. I just think the conditions behind Harry's illness are unnatural.

@depressedbreakfast2614

4 жыл бұрын

It’s funny that tony did something similar to mysterio and vulture in the mcu

That’s Spider-Man’s real gift. Making bad jokes in tense situations 😂 7:56

I love that Doc Ock and Rigby from Regular Show share a voice actor.

20:07 I like how you can see otto’s expression of how hard it is to do what he’s doing especially since he knows Peter is Spider-Man. That expression you can just see that it was hard for him to be that relentless and threaten Peter.

That last scene between Yuri Lowenthal and William Salyers is masterfully done. The pure rage and heartbreak in Peter’s voice and the persistence and determination Otto’s voice to get Peter to help him in the way Otto expects him to really sells the scene. Insomniac has had a couple misses with their last couple games imo but this game is a masterpiece.

@theanimator2semi-hiatus295

2 жыл бұрын

Ben tennyson vs. Rigby

@jackthecommenter2768

2 жыл бұрын

@@theanimator2semi-hiatus295 bruh REALLY?

@theanimator2semi-hiatus295

2 жыл бұрын

@JackThe Commenter Yes Yuri played Ben Tennyson since Alien force and William played rigby

@kamentrainerhorn2073

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's one more reason why I feel like this game should have taken home more awards than it did.

@regulate.artificer_g23.mdctlsk

Жыл бұрын

@@theanimator2semi-hiatus295 more like Sasuke vs Rigby

The story of this Otto Octavius is very tragic and I love how they made him the mentor to Peter. It makes it more tragic when He betrays Peter and the work that they have thrived towards has been used to inact his revenge upon Osborn. Can we also appreciate how they developed upon the backstory of this Otto and Osborn more by having them be old Business partners who studied in college together and established their own business together for Osborn to steal of the credit for their achievements. They made this version of Norman Osborn more sly and treacherous, making him more and more unlikeable. It makes Ottos quest for revenge become more saddening as his quest for revenge consumes his heart. I also liked the addition of giving Octavius a Disease 🦠 that attacks the muscles 💪🏻 in his body while leaving his brain 🧠 intact. I was left heartbroken at the end as Otto screams out for Peter not to take away his arms because it would trap him inside his own decaying body. It adds more heartbreak to Peter because he viewed Otto as a father to him and they really had a strong relationship with each other. This has to be my favourite Doctor Octopus 🐙 adaptation who’s design is only taken by the Sam Raimi’s design of Doctor Ock but apart from that I love this version so much. Xx

“Sometimes to do what's right we must be steady and give up the things we desire the most, even our dreams.” One quotes that fits to both original and this Dr. Octavious.

Raimi's Spider-Man - "MARY JANE!" Insomniac's Doc Ock - "PETEEEER!"

@ThePhantomKing

5 жыл бұрын

Insomniac's Doc Ock - "MORDECAAAAIIIIII!!!!!!"

@The94Venom

5 жыл бұрын

Raimi's Spider-Man: "UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuUUUUUUuuuuuuuUUUUUUUGH!"

@omarkarim2280

5 жыл бұрын

Insomniac Spider-Man: COOKINNNNGGGGG!!!!!

@sinceakingsecondchannel4303

5 жыл бұрын

Batman: MARTHAAAA

@unknownnecessities1754

5 жыл бұрын

Daniel Wood Spider-Man 2: PIZZA TIME!!!!!!!

I could totally see doc ock being this franchise’s Arkham series joker.

@hellstrom4209

5 жыл бұрын

That's Norman's spot

@cpassion1408

5 жыл бұрын

I could see him being more like a scarecrow with the goblin being more so like the joker

@qwertyuiop123456168

5 жыл бұрын

He's more like a Mr. Freeze/Scarecrow hybrid type

@skullfishd2346

5 жыл бұрын

The story is something new you may love it or hate it and it's so new. Now that otto and osborn are enemies how are we gonna see the birth of goblin? and how is he gonna fit in? if they are enemies?

@KatsuImagitian

5 жыл бұрын

@@skullfishd2346 They already planted the seeds for the goblin. His prototype bombs, the mask, the green serum Harry is in. Norman pretty much has all he needs to eventually become the goblin.

32:06 Norman's smug smirk, he knew he won.

I just found out that Dock Ock is played by the voice of Rigby and my world is forever changed.

@joscar062

6 ай бұрын

And Spider-Man is voiced by Ben 10 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

dr octopus's mechanical arms looks awsome

@fearthereaper76

5 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@anonymousgoblin792

5 жыл бұрын

Dill Tuber You beat me to it.

@HafidzMurshidie

5 жыл бұрын

It does, but the claw looks too organic.. If it were more mechanical, that would’ve been perfect..

@anonymousgoblin792

5 жыл бұрын

Hafidz Murshidie Dude not at all. They are perfect. Ho in any way are they “Organic”?

@juicywalrus9684

5 жыл бұрын

Honestly the best portrayal of them.Big,bulky,and not spaghetti like in other media

I actually think this game was more of an exciting, well-written, cinematic experience than half of the MCU films. Although I didn't expect anything less from Insomniac. I like how it's an original interpretation that pays homage to the films, series and comic books but it's not adhering to them, it does it's own new thing with the characters, kinda like what Spectacular Spider-Man did. I also really love the soundtrack, Otto's theme when the arms come out, and during the prison riot and the final battle, really captivating. I also like how different Otto looks before and after donning the arms, suit and goggles, he really transformed 100% to Doc Ock, things like the snarl from the comics and Alfred Molina's stare as the arms move about in a sinister way, genius. I also really like, sorry know I'm saying that a lot, how this version of Otto wasn't already using a fully-formed set of arms to handle dangerous radiation or anything, he wasn't going about like he just whipped them up in a shed overnight and looking over the fact that the arms alone would've made him a mint, but this Doc Ock actually works hard and struggles to create his signature arms, not only for scientific discovery; but also for his own wellbeing and the wellbeing of others. And I love the little details like how he moves about in a more upright, faster, more confident way when he's finished the arms, despite the limp, which isn't even on his mind. And during the riot; when he grabs Peter's hand, the other arms are flat on the ground while the arm on Peter's hand is grasping it like a handshake. Very realistic too, the arms aren't controlling him; the brain implant is merely affecting him in a very mild, barely Phineas Gage sort of way, so it changes his personality through brain damage, which makes him act out on violent thoughts and desires that he was already supressing. I sort of know from experience that brain damage can do that, because my dad suffered a lot of brain damage, after a motorcycle accident and he seemed to recover really well, but it really impacted his personality most of all, he went from a nice, easy-going guy to a violent alcoholic, he was very abusive, like a completely different person, and it took me a while to understand that this was because little shards of concrete in his brain actually changed the way he thinks. Really just my favourite incarnation of Otto, I never thought anyone could top Alfred Molina or Spectacular Spider-Man but here we are. I also really dig Electro's new suit.

@himeshoney

5 жыл бұрын

I wholeheartedly agree. In other adaptations of Spider-Man, it is usually the origin story of how Peter became Spider-Man. If not, then he is usually fairly young and new to the spidey life. In this game, I like how Peter already knows so much about his powers and can control them very well. Peter also graduated college, he's got a job, and he is very experienced. This wasn't an origin story for Spider-Man, but it was one for Doc Ock, and I find that SUUUPER refreshing, and genius! This entire game was well thought out all the way through. DAMN.

@basedbattledroid3507

5 жыл бұрын

paint me in trust So true, I never thought of it that way; but yes, it is an origin story for Doc Ock, and it was very refreshing to play as a more experienced, grounded and well-balanced Spider-Man, as well as a more mature Peter Parker.

@guldmattbb473

4 жыл бұрын

Half? I say this beats all of the MCU, Lowkey lol

@basedbattledroid3507

4 жыл бұрын

@@guldmattbb473 that's fair, I agree

@nickg5341

2 жыл бұрын

Yea this easily beats MCU. The tiny little details, the dramatic camera shots, it’s all perfect. The action feeds the story and feels earned, like there are real stakes. Even though the whole thing is animated it looks more grounded and real than any of that over-the-top CGI crap. Script is great, characters are likable. I could only dream that they made superhero movies like this.

Fun fact: The voice actor of Dr. Octavius is the same actor who voiced Rigby from “Regular Show”.

This Otto was so relatable, and his descent into becoming Dr Octopus was tragic

@joedatius

2 жыл бұрын

its horribly tragic in such a realistic way. so many people have to deal with the same fate he's been given, slowly dying in a shell of his own body, without control or the ability to even end his own suffering on his own and only able to wait for his mind to catch up with his body. its a concept rarely touched upon for an antagonist and they did it the best out of just about anyone here