Damn insomaniac spider man was going to be brutal by looking at the early combat gameplay

@GavinIsNotOkay

29 күн бұрын

He already is ngl, bro is breaking people's necks and stuff with the finishers he pulls off

@josemolina3858

29 күн бұрын

Yea but the 4 hit combo is boring, i want to break goons with enfinite combos ​@GavinIsNotOkay

@thejournalist8091

29 күн бұрын

Peter and Miles are already really brutal. Their finishers would very much leave people in a vegetative state or just have them be dead. They throw trash bins, manholes, and weapons at 200 mph, they break all your ribs, they will leave you paralyzed or dead by kicking your neck, and more lol

@rhetiq9989

28 күн бұрын

Looks more or less the same, only he punches more here

@davidchittick6783

27 күн бұрын

Actually the brutal combat & blood should only be for the black suit. New York's Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man isn't brutal when it comes to combat like that. He usually just holds his punches.

Honestly i wouldnt have minded to see a more brutal arkham style spiderman game

@Bigmellow_

Ай бұрын

To much Chad energy that era is gone

@emmaelstad341

Ай бұрын

Dark energy for spidey is great

@Indigo_1001

29 күн бұрын

@@Bigmellow_ What’s with the combat now? It’s peak spider-man comic fighting. How is this worse

@josemolina3858

29 күн бұрын

​@@Indigo_10014 hit combo is ass

@Kyronicon

29 күн бұрын

​@@josemolina3858You obviously do not know how to play the game other than spam square. You can get more than 4 hits on a single enemy without knocking them backwards.

The combat feels prett visceral, kind of like Wolverine with the closer camera and blood, feels like they just shifted towards Wolverine for that grittier style

I agree with the decision of removing the blood. Spider-Man isn’t meant to be some bloodthirsty maniac, unless he’s wearing the black suit.

@davidchittick6783

23 күн бұрын

Exactly!!!

@Zee-vc4oq

17 күн бұрын

*Superior Spider-Man laughing in the corner.*

@Naz-xk6hq

16 күн бұрын

@@Zee-vc4oq to be fair, that was ock.

@user-xb3xv8uz3t

13 күн бұрын

I dont

@Zee-vc4oq

13 күн бұрын

The game is pegi 16, so blood wouldn't have been that surprising or repulsing. I think it's " gore " that would have not fit Spider-Man. But in Spider-Man 2, we could have seen more of that. I hope Venom is pegi 18. Not to be esgy or anything... just so that it allows more freedom and artistic choices.

This early footage spidey had so much more weight to him it seems. I kinda liked the more "grounded" approach, especially with the overall animations. Not that the final product is bad, not even close, just that these animations looked a lot more realistic in comparison

From what I can tell, some of the finishers that you would normally press 🔺+🔴 with would've actually already been done in the combat itself without you having to press those 2 buttons I mentioned earlier. Also the blood splattering effect isn't a terrible idea, but in my opinion would only make sense if he's wearing the symbiote suit. Regular Spidey isn't unhinged, so I'm glad that idea got disregarded. But I'm extremely bummed out that the TASM 1 crane move never made it into the final release. That could've easily been implemented in Marvel's Spider-Man 2, as well as the blood splatter effect only when using the symbiote suit.

@DanialDEcool

Ай бұрын

I think this is a direct port from the TASM games where you would press Circle to do a signature move (literally a finisher)

@danielwood6833

26 күн бұрын

I mean blood splattering still works for regular Spidey. Holding back or not he’s still hitting them with spider strength, also the people he fights on the regular are mobsters and killers, nobody’s lose sleep if they lose a couple teeth.

@danielmontero8200

25 күн бұрын

@@danielwood6833 This is true. But in my honest opinion, since it's a game, you can get away with somewhat unrealistic combat. So Spidey punching a regular dude mind of hard in gameplay but without there being blood splatter affects constantly isn't a deal breaker, well not to me anyway.

@Bubzee11_Editz

7 күн бұрын

Yeah no in the comics it’s showed blood splattering from his attacks normally, it’s not like he’s angry, but like in the comics when he faces a mugger, he kicks their jaws and punches them aswell, which brings out some blood, kinda reasonable

1:24, Damn... Spidey's got some moves. This feels actually like a street fight.

The screen flicking when zipping webs was purely realistic. They should have stayed with that concept

yo there was vaulting and pole rotations..... also i wanted that crane webshot too

@JJ-zo7jv

29 күн бұрын

Dude same! I really wanted to do manual pole swinging I’m still upset we didn’t get it. The crane ability would’ve been so good too idk why they didn’t just go through with it.

@Cybernyde

25 күн бұрын

REALLY wish it hadn’t been cut, would have added more ways to interact with the environment

I like the recoil the webs have when Spider-Man is going for a launch point.

i wish they kept some of the things in the early development

game seemed to be a bit more mature especially in the first clip with the blood and the brutal combat

Utterly ridiculous that they didn’t just keep TASM ending crane move.

The old combat looks a little better

@DanialDEcool

Ай бұрын

It’s identical to another game and even clunkier than the already bad combat

@isaacthompson4915

Ай бұрын

They took even more stuff out from the e3 gameplay you had a named combo meter like wos and you had a few more combat moves for the basic combo

@Marvel_Motions

Ай бұрын

It’s because of the camera movement you think that

@agent.orangelar88

Ай бұрын

@@DanialDEcool well no you had stamina and genuine combos.

@deanmoriarty6015

Ай бұрын

lmfao no it does not, not even close

Many of these movements and some other things were implemented on Marvel's Spider-Man 2.

The finisher at 3:46 is my favorite finisher. It’s just so acrobatic and full of finesse

We need more blood in Spider-man 3

@laffin4033

Ай бұрын

Hell yeah

@MoaiGuy7537

Ай бұрын

I reckon they should keep their violence style for the Spider-Man games and give the Wolverine game that gore

@purpleguylover1

Ай бұрын

Ummm alright buddy 🫣

@Bigmellow_

Ай бұрын

Not if sweet baby inc has something to say about it lol

@DanialDEcool

Ай бұрын

@@Bigmellow_what is a sweet-baby incorporated and what have they done?

This was more like black-suited Spider-Man fighting.

I’m surprised and disappointed that Insomniac hasn’t done any major changes to the combat. It would have to been to have different stances.

@marquintabell5307

27 күн бұрын

The combat is fine its just not as brutal than it was before.

@Chiron00

26 күн бұрын

@@marquintabell5307just because its fine to you, doesn't mean its fine to them which is why they made the comment.

@marquintabell5307

26 күн бұрын

@@Chiron00 I mean what's the point of talking about it now?

@taharokerya5028

9 күн бұрын

This isn't ghost of tsushima. Why would he need different stances?

@Chiron00

8 күн бұрын

@@marquintabell5307 for discussion? Maybe they will actually communicate eith them on twitter or something? Plenty of reasons why

I like how they cut the little weapon gadget wheel out in the first game but brought it back in the 2nd 😂😂

nice touch adding *Hulk 2003's OST* in your outro- best Hulk movie ever made imo

That's awesome. I wish Insomniac added a few things in the 1st game. Not complaining btw, the game is still amazing. I love the game, but after seeing this. I wish they could've done more like made NYC more interactive & feel real like in the 2nd game, but a LOT more. Like add extra crimes like stopping a thug who is running off with a stolen purse or bike, save someone who's about to fall off a building, save a hostage that's involved in a car chase, save a cat from a tree, help a civilian with directions like in "Homecoming". Take crimes out of District Completion like in the 2nd game, pick any crimes to stop like in "Miles Morales", wave at civilians while hanging on a wall or something like a light pole, & shoot webs at enemies while swinging. Lastly add wall run on the web swinging like the end swing in "Far From Home". Crawl on the walls a little faster like in the 2nd game. Have there be QTE's in a few cutscenes like in Uncharted 4. Give some of the villains more appearance in the story like the Electro, Vulture, Rhino, Scorpion, Tombstone, Shocker, & Hammerhead little scenes in the game. Add some of the combats, parkour, & traverals that we've seen in the early prototype & alpha. Also for the gadget wheel I would've done it exactly like the one in the 2nd game, also so you can customize your gadget wheel by choosing different gadgets, pretty much like the abilities. Done better with some of the boss battles (add 3 rounds & health bars like in the 2nd game) like Kingpin, Scorpion, Rhino, & Electro. Replayable missions like Miles Morales & Spider-Man 2. I also think they could've added more into the story that we've seen in the comic that is based on this game, E3 2016 trailer, & some that we seen in the concept art. Once again I'm not complaining or anything, I still love this game a LOT. I just think they could have done a little bit more into this spectacular game & story, but it's still perfect & I'm still grateful for what we got👌

@time2play961

Ай бұрын

I wish we would have gotten more parkour stuff mixed in with the swinging

@davidchittick6783

Ай бұрын

@@time2play961 like in some of the movies like Homecoming & TASM?

@time2play961

Ай бұрын

@@davidchittick6783 maybe, but in general, as I don't see a lot of parkour actions

@davidchittick6783

Ай бұрын

I wish they could've added that detail where the enemies ends up unconscious with their eyes closed & breathing. Like in the Batman: Arkham Games.

@gannielukks1811

29 күн бұрын

​@@davidchittick6783also damage. Beaten enemies in Arkham Knight are damaged and bleeding

E3 had water everywhere 💀

when you think about video games in this perspective the final products are mesmerizing

Some fight moves from early stages can be use with mods. There are some different fight and travel animations mods for PC.

i cannot WAIT for insomniac to put all of that early-developed brutality toward the new wolverine game!!

I hope they go more realistic for spiderman 3. We need closer camera angles, heavy pendulum swinging, and less floaty air combat with holograms and space grenades.

I like the way the camera moved during swinging in that 2016 era

The e3 era version is said to be a version with more content than base game

@DanialDEcool

Ай бұрын

I think that’s a bit of a lie.

@SWAHswah-tm7sn

26 күн бұрын

​@@DanialDEcoolnot entirely impossible tbf, loads of games scrap content, sometime complete content and we never really get a reason why.

@deepflare1028

13 күн бұрын

@@SWAHswah-tm7sn Or said content could cause game breaking bugs or glitches, hence why they were cut in the first place

I kinda like the Chinatown swinging more than game launch

really liked the og air launch 03:50 like e3 2017

@TheBlurReturns16

21 күн бұрын

Ended up giving that one to Miles.

One thing I noticed, Peter uses his fists a lot more than later in the game.

One detail I noticed that I dont see discussed more often is that the streets are crowded like in the spiderman 2

I hope they add the 2016 variant of the advanced suit. So classic

1:13 this part is literally so smooth I wish they made it more flowy like this

Looks better then what we got. I also love the addition of blood. Makes it more realistic considering how badly spiderman could mess someone up

@davidchittick6783

27 күн бұрын

I think they should've done blood for the 2nd game instead, because of how brutal Peter is with that black suit when it comes to combat.

The combat reminds me of Assassin's Creed 3 up to Rogue, as when Spider-Man attacks, the camera shakes like how it does in the Assassin's Creed games, and noticing how grounded it was like Batman Arkham.

@laffin4033

9 күн бұрын

Interesting yet true comparison

God I really like E3 2017 version of the game and the art style they went so far, it’s probably my favorite version. The color grading, more stylised UI, shiny suit, brutal strikes and more weighty animations for both combat and swinging just makes it much more realistic and filmic.

This really looks like an arkham style spiderman game and i would love it if they did that too

Looked like potential moveset switches like more focus on follow up attacks on a single target rather than crowd control every fight, would like to see that added, bit like ghost of tsushimas sword styles. Maybe a combat style focused specially on webbing or range and then a fighting style that focuses on air combat which could add in flying enemys with more complex fighting systems

I wished they didn't change the swinging. Glad the sequel fixes that by adding the swing steering assist

I want that crane ejection. Thwy completely sealed them closed with boundaries in the releases

It looks like a lot of the old animations to the combat and traversal were inspired by tasm 2, the game. I'm glad the stepped away from it, and went on the more cinematic style. Suits the game much better.

bring the heavy attacks from the old games back

I hate watching combat mods sometimes cause it be showing me what we could of had

@laffin4033

12 күн бұрын

Lowkey

Kind of puts into perspective how wolverine could turn out based on the leaks

1:50 kinda looks like the web rush for the tasm games, wich I hope come back for the next game

@davidchittick6783

27 күн бұрын

Yeah I noticed that too

I wish they would’ve kept the E3 suit as the official suit for the first game

@DanialDEcool

Ай бұрын

I think it’s still in the game files

To me, the combat feels mostly the same. The added blood makes it more brutal, but many of the animations are unchanged, giving it a slightly heavier feel.

It's amazing to see what is essentially early dev footage that insomniac considered a starting point of sorts, while other spiderman games went ahead and said "yeah this is good enough" and shipped it.

They should make combat options in settings because I feel like this aggressive play style is much better but, we should still be able 2 pick yk?

@laffin4033

12 күн бұрын

Yeah kinda like Ghost of Tusima

I like the web-swining and combat hear much beter then in the final game...

I bet if this leaked before the game came out people would say that the graphics are ass

I’m thinking how can you make more Spider-Man games like this without making the other games the same. Spider-Man from Spider-Man 2 is a big leap forward. Now how can they keep this up with improving combat and swinging without making the new games feel the same or dry. Spider man 3 seems like a challenge cause now they gotta somehow make it better than 2 and 2 seems like the peak of super hero gaming

@deepflare1028

13 күн бұрын

I'm...sure most people are inclined to disagree with you and consider Arkham City the "peak" of Superhero gaming. (I haven't played SM 2 yet)

Way more gritty and feels like Arkham combat

Everyone saying that the old combat system was more brutal and they should have kept it that way but I think the final version is better than this. Remember: Spider-man does not move realistic or brutal like Batman, his moves are supposed to be amazing!

The blood in Spider-Man same doesn’t feel right, so it’s a good change after all.

@theotherguy21

5 күн бұрын

Nah it makes sense they'd definitely be bleeding

0:34 this is almost identical to the challenge rooms inside of The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Edit: just realised the blood, I think it was simply already incorporated in the model.

Interesting!

Idk if this is how it would have worked but at 3:57 we can see the gadget in the bottom left corner which really reminds me of spider-man 2 R1 gadget wheel Maybe gadgets were meant to work like that but when they realized they wanted to add more gadgets they just created the 1st games gadget wheel and when spider-man 2 came around and they shifted focus away from gadgets a bit they brought it back

His appendages are hammers in the early gameplay

this looks actually insane

Please 🙏 tell me the track name or where i can find it - im actually serious help me out 🥺

I wish we got an option for blood

Why is the old UI so much more visually appealing?

@laffin4033

12 күн бұрын

I know right. The one we got was so bland

@Dottol-

12 күн бұрын

@@laffin4033 like I can understand the grittiness and things like that changing because of the tone, but that's just a straight up downgrade to the ui

It just looked darker because lighting wasn't done.

Shouldve made Sunset Overdrive 2 but aight

This is the route they should go for in wolverine

They shouldve left the blood in the game i mean spiderman literally violently beats them up until they are knocked out cold. Spiderman isnt a murderer but hes definetely a violent person.

@DanialDEcool

Ай бұрын

Got removed because they didn’t want an R-rated game. Besides, it will make it look even more like he’s killing them when he doesn’t.

@thatginger6839

28 күн бұрын

Blood is too much for Spider-Man imo. It would only make sense to me if he's affected by the symbiote

@xeox4280

28 күн бұрын

@@thatginger6839 why? He already beats people up until they are in a coma

Why does he look like Javier Milei on the thumbnail? Lmao

4:10 ayo CLEAN combo spotted

They Peter got that Tobey in em

Jesus he has blood on the back of his suit

Damn not counting release date, but the code and plans for this game are almost 10 years old.

The combat and swinging is better in the finished product

Not gonna lie insomniac really missed a huge chance in bringing the blood back with spiderman 2 symbiote suit not a better time to use it haha.

2:47 dang ngl this move was fire, dont know why they replaced it.

I'll buy this DLC for sure!!

now im wondering bout gta 6 actual look

There's something I find so eerie about test footage and I can't work it out.

@Oliveiraverde

23 күн бұрын

Maybe because it shows the building of the world and due to the secrecy of the footage. Seeing how it looks in its earlier states, starting being so unnatural with the test room where Spider-Man is fighting and next the footage moves to the grey world with untextured buildings and yet they are similar to our world, then becoming more and more like its final version and reallistic.

Ah so this is where the mod animations come from

@laffin4033

Ай бұрын

Yessir

Hold on, early development fight style reused for wolverine?

Bro they removed the triple kick-.-

Where can I download this masterpiece?

Rated T for teen due to hyper realistic combat displays

Kinda has similar mechanics to Tasm 2

Bro there was blood? Awy man...,

@davidchittick6783

27 күн бұрын

I'm actually glad that they took that out, but I wish they putten that in the second game, so it would have shown how brutal the black suit is in combat.

This the version they imported on PC.

Bro it's so good and awesome I wish spiderman 3 was released and they could have added more features in this game

@strider117aldo9

25 күн бұрын

Was released?

Unpopular opinion: The combat in both Spider-Man games isn't good enough.

combat looked alot better. just cant stand those automated finishers where the animation plays outl

1:43 i wish they kept that

@davidchittick6783

27 күн бұрын

Same. I wish they could've kept all of that for the final. Same goes for the parts that was in the very first trailer. Like the cafe & other stuff that we saw.

You think you can find more OLD combat clips of the prototype... maybe they hid some canceled mechanics.

@laffin4033

26 күн бұрын

Maybe If I look hard enough

@youngspecial64

26 күн бұрын

@@laffin4033 please do 🙏.

BRO. That Zoomed camera movement in web swinging during the "Wall Object Testing" portion of the video looks a bit similar to the amazing spiderman 1. I remember how much everyone had mixed feelings about it when that game was out on the 360. I wonder if that's what caused them to move it back a bit. Still, for those who grew up with that game I know Y'all felt that little sting of nostalgia lol, I had to google gameplay of the OG

Seeing how brutal the combat looked in the beginning of the video reminded me of the line from No Way Home when TASM Spider-Man said that he stopped pulling his punches. I’m imagining that gameplay is how he fought now.

Why does the combat and graphics in the retail version look downgraded

Wall object testing didn’t improve that much lmao

Ngl there's a lot stuff they should've added or should add in sm3 and I think they will considering the Web line was confirmed to Be made for SM but got added in SM 2 They should've added Peter triple kick into SM2 to switch up the combat and Enemies should've bled whenever Peter had the symbiote suit on And being able to zip through a crane should've been added like a reference to The amazing spider man

@davidchittick6783

27 күн бұрын

I think they should've added those in the 1st game. I still love the game though & I'm not complaining or anything, but I wish they added a little more into the gameplay that we saw in this video & the very first trailer.

WAIT SO YOU COULD ACTUALLY WEB LAUNCH THROUGH THE CRANE LIKE ANDREW???? WHY TF DID THEY TAKE THAT OUT??????😭😭😭

@laffin4033

Ай бұрын

I know it’s so frustrating

arnt these from the leak archive

@laffin4033

25 күн бұрын

Perhaps lmao