Spider-Man 2 RUINED one of the BEST parts of SPIDER-MAN PS4! Stealth vs symbiote ability gameplay

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  • @gherwincarreon6001
    @gherwincarreon60016 ай бұрын

    Sounds like they made symbiote Peter not care about stealth, which is 100% accurate

  • @fenidiv4325

    @fenidiv4325

    6 ай бұрын

    yeah, how about normal one tho

  • @gherwincarreon6001

    @gherwincarreon6001

    6 ай бұрын

    @fenidiv4325 with out the symbiote surge? Doing the hide outs on ultimate? You die in 2 hits on ultimate, that was pretty hard if you ask me, made me do stealth till I broke the coms for back up

  • @MrAnjo234

    @MrAnjo234

    6 ай бұрын

    doesn’t mean they should make it less fun

  • @gherwincarreon6001

    @gherwincarreon6001

    6 ай бұрын

    @MrAnjo234 fun is dependent on the person, I personally found the challenge fun

  • @MrAnjo234

    @MrAnjo234

    6 ай бұрын

    @@gherwincarreon6001 yeah l guess calling the stealth hard in this game is also dependant on the person, its pretty easy to cheese the ai in this game. Spamming weblines all over the place seems to be a dominant strategy and the lack of gadgets does make these stealth sections less interesting for me bc you really can’t get creative at all anymore

  • @XOrtKnight
    @XOrtKnight6 ай бұрын

    Venom and the symbiotes can literally see miles when he’s invisible. That’s f**king op.

  • @Nicholassmith2023

    @Nicholassmith2023

    6 ай бұрын

    And sandman

  • @aza5871

    @aza5871

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@Nicholassmith2023 sandman doesn't see miles, he just feels him since technically miles is stepping in his sands

  • @Mrsir529

    @Mrsir529

    6 ай бұрын

    Sandman can too

  • @Mrsir529

    @Mrsir529

    6 ай бұрын

    @@aza5871that’s the same with the symbiote, including peter

  • @XOrtKnight

    @XOrtKnight

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Mrsir529 Again. That’s OP.

  • @muhammad0hadi
    @muhammad0hadi6 ай бұрын

    Purpose of no stealth was to show the brute strength carelessness of the simbiote and i think its accurate

  • @khangvinh4656

    @khangvinh4656

    5 ай бұрын

    But they also have miles, whose is smart and careful. If anything, they just ran themselves into a wall trying to simplify the game.

  • @youngfargo8099

    @youngfargo8099

    5 ай бұрын

    ok so what was the purpose for playing as mj and riding a bike for two missions

  • @user-ip8vf2ky9p

    @user-ip8vf2ky9p

    5 ай бұрын

    yeah but it makes replay ability less fun

  • @gameplaysfordayz5967

    @gameplaysfordayz5967

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@youngfargo8099 for story.... Yall complain about everything too short too long too slow to fast, it's a good spiderman story with good mechanics who cares I'm just glad they still make spiderman games...

  • @youngfargo8099

    @youngfargo8099

    5 ай бұрын

    @@gameplaysfordayz5967 wait.. you liked taking pictures of brooklyn high and helping two dudes prom proposals as spiderman over playing as the black suit ?? 🤯

  • @geckoarmy4791
    @geckoarmy47916 ай бұрын

    Now it makes sense story wise, this Peter would say fuck stealth, but what if the made symbiot tool & gadgets, like a symbiot bear trap😂

  • @spoon2409

    @spoon2409

    6 ай бұрын

    that would be so sick like a symbiote trip line

  • @geckoarmy4791

    @geckoarmy4791

    6 ай бұрын

    @spoon2409 uh oh, symbiot mimics. Just place them in the map then a painting just eats a guard

  • @vbass2002

    @vbass2002

    5 ай бұрын

    That would have been so cool

  • @MonkeBrain07

    @MonkeBrain07

    5 ай бұрын

    Maybe in the next game. We all know he has Anti-Venom permanently now.

  • @ReignofIndepence

    @ReignofIndepence

    Ай бұрын

    Was happening before the symbiote

  • @PaladinsTemplar
    @PaladinsTemplar6 ай бұрын

    They really said “Stealth? Pft, nah. U know what the players really want? MJ missions again”

  • @streetside2833

    @streetside2833

    6 ай бұрын

    They really wanted to stick it to the people that didn't like them in the first game. How dare we not want to play as a regular human in a game about a superhero that can punch through walls and travel at 70 miles an hour through New York City.

  • @everythingnerd4953

    @everythingnerd4953

    6 ай бұрын

    @@streetside2833you don’t get it

  • @streetside2833

    @streetside2833

    6 ай бұрын

    @@everythingnerd4953 wtf are you talking about they said it word for word that's why they did it 😭😭 Talking bout I don't get i guess neither do the devs 🤷‍♂️😂😂

  • @everythingnerd4953

    @everythingnerd4953

    6 ай бұрын

    Ohhhhh shiiii, you right mb, but it sounded like you were criticizing the mj stealth

  • @ForgivenRejects

    @ForgivenRejects

    5 ай бұрын

    I remember a time when companies used feedback to make a better product for the consumer, ahhh good times.

  • @deathbykonami5487
    @deathbykonami54876 ай бұрын

    You forgot about the webline gadget that allows you to create stealth vantage points and the ability to stealth takedown two enemies will never not be satisfying.

  • @The-Legend-of-P

    @The-Legend-of-P

    6 ай бұрын

    It gets boring after 2 tries cause it’s the same animation. All you do for stealth in this game is web line, hit square, boom you’re done. Idc if it’s easy, but maybe have more to do?

  • @nicepair8956

    @nicepair8956

    6 ай бұрын

    yeah you got double takedowns and the webline but compare that to the first game and it’s so bad

  • @Mjsports3730

    @Mjsports3730

    5 ай бұрын

    @@The-Legend-of-P It isn’t the same animation every time but ok

  • @The-Legend-of-P

    @The-Legend-of-P

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Mjsports3730 dude the web line double takedown has the animation? Don’t believe me? Clear a base with the web line only and you’ll see. Stealth has like 3 similar animations from the past 2 games. And web line omly has 1 animation for EVERY takedown. Sorry to burst your bubble

  • @Mjsports3730

    @Mjsports3730

    5 ай бұрын

    @@The-Legend-of-P They’re still not the same animation every time tho

  • @RzX173
    @RzX1736 ай бұрын

    Personally I think that beating up a ton of bad guys is way more fun than sneaking around on the ceiling.

  • @Bori.1776

    @Bori.1776

    6 ай бұрын

    Yeah but it kills immersion. Spider-Man by default is a stealth character. His abilities complement it too well.

  • @aurielayala9683

    @aurielayala9683

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@Bori.1776Yea but in the first game stealth was boring too ngl. Also didn't like how in the fisk hideout stealth missions, you would always be forced to get caught when it was the last two guys forcing you to do four waves of enemies.

  • @Bori.1776

    @Bori.1776

    5 ай бұрын

    @@aurielayala9683 I agree with the getting caught thing. Irked the shit outta me. I think the had a good foundation for stealth but they didn’t improve on it. They got lazy for the sequel in a lot of ways

  • @Bori.1776

    @Bori.1776

    5 ай бұрын

    @CaptainThugRdx You’re just wrong 😂

  • @moonlit_sky127

    @moonlit_sky127

    5 ай бұрын

    to each their own, but both approaches should be equally developed if they're both options

  • @LyricMMX
    @LyricMMX6 ай бұрын

    I hope they keep the way gadgets work in Spider-Man 2 but allow you to switch them out like you can with Abilities for more variety..

  • @TheBLT883

    @TheBLT883

    6 ай бұрын

    yes! that's the perfect middle ground

  • @BongWatah

    @BongWatah

    6 ай бұрын

    Oh that would've been a great idea!

  • @Nathon-jd7qz

    @Nathon-jd7qz

    6 ай бұрын

    How about they add the gadgets back but they keep the wheel as well. So it would be how it is in Spider-Man 2 but if you don’t want to use the gadgets you have you can use the wheel to use the other gadgets using both mechanics

  • @zaynkor2670

    @zaynkor2670

    6 ай бұрын

    Yup this would be good

  • @nofacedgoldfish6216

    @nofacedgoldfish6216

    6 ай бұрын

    But then that means people constantly switching them out mid-mission through the menu, breaking immersion. Just have them all available in the wheel like the first game.

  • @lolchilliplant5155
    @lolchilliplant51556 ай бұрын

    As someone who never used the gadgets in the first game I see this as an absolute win cause I absolutely loved the combat and stealth anyway in Spider-Man 2

  • @kaijin713
    @kaijin7136 ай бұрын

    Getting rid of the gadget wheel was a huge upgrade, but I do miss some of the old gadgets.

  • @johnpauldriskill8737

    @johnpauldriskill8737

    5 ай бұрын

    How the gadget shell was tuff

  • @kaijin713

    @kaijin713

    5 ай бұрын

    @@johnpauldriskill8737 The gadgets were cool, but using it during combat felt clunky and broke the flow

  • @vladimircaelum7465
    @vladimircaelum74656 ай бұрын

    In Arkham games stealth in those sections was mandatory, since Batman dies very quickly to guns. One or two gunners are doable since he can Batclaw one gun away and probably stun the other guy, but a full room of thugs with guns is a deathtrap without stealth. Spider-Man fights multiple gunners constantly so the stealth doesn't seem as necessary.

  • @undary0u

    @undary0u

    5 ай бұрын

    Yeah like spider-man can dodge bullets easily while batman needs to maneuver around them, a daredevil game would be more equivalent to batman

  • @shaunavant532

    @shaunavant532

    4 ай бұрын

    See you lost me but then you got me back so I agree

  • @Dookieman1975
    @Dookieman19756 ай бұрын

    If u think about it, still fits the story. Peter wouldn’t use stealth unless he absolutely needs to with the symbiote. Make u feel like a god. For miles, he’s got cammo he’ll be fine

  • @Chainman-bro

    @Chainman-bro

    5 ай бұрын

    You say as the symbiote's see miles any way

  • @DarthMechRBLX

    @DarthMechRBLX

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Chainman-broit’s not like the symbiotes are the only enemies… there’s also basic thugs, and hunters. Who can’t see you when you go invisible

  • @IdiotPersonn
    @IdiotPersonn6 ай бұрын

    “Because it’s easier and way more fun”

  • @Aminur48

    @Aminur48

    5 ай бұрын

    People just wanna complain for the sake of it. Just replay spiderman 1 or develop the game yourself😂

  • @IdiotPersonn

    @IdiotPersonn

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Aminur48 exactly

  • @cheezygui5803

    @cheezygui5803

    5 ай бұрын

    That's exactly what ticked me off man😂 you have the option to do stealth especially with the new web lines, the gadgets in the first aren't what allowed you to do stealth, if this guy was actually that annoyed and liked stealth he'd just do it, besides there are countless times throughout the story where you get thrown into combat so idk why he can't just leave the stealth bits to do stealth

  • @A.H.goose1

    @A.H.goose1

    3 ай бұрын

    @@cheezygui5803 They downgraded the stealth heavily bro just admit it. They themselves admitted it, don’t be a shill 😂

  • @A.H.goose1

    @A.H.goose1

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Aminur48 No criticism allowed, yes sir

  • @lordred9122
    @lordred91226 ай бұрын

    I understand them not wanting to do stealth for Pete in this game but miles can literally turn invisible

  • @Cyro702

    @Cyro702

    5 ай бұрын

    Yeah its miles powers

  • @kalvin187douglas
    @kalvin187douglas6 ай бұрын

    I think the point of not having so much gadgets in MS2 was not to rely on the gadgets so much which would make it more difficult to survive. If you think about it, we had quite an advantage with the amount of gadgets we had in the previous games. We relied more on our skills, attacks, and abilities instead in MS2. I’m not complaining, and who knows, maybe they’ll add it back in the updaters or DLCs

  • @Vastickle

    @Vastickle

    6 ай бұрын

    I don’t know but to me it felt like more skill was needed with gadgets as in this game the gadgets are just things to spam or never use

  • @Drakobsidian

    @Drakobsidian

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Vastickletrip web required no skill

  • @Vastickle

    @Vastickle

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Drakobsidian yea but it sure was funner and cooler than spamming all my web abilities is Spider-Man 2

  • @notme6753

    @notme6753

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@VastickleI agree with you that it takes more skill to use those gadgets in the first game... You might like it but I don't hahaha I got zero skills on utilizing those gadgets and it felt more of a gimmick to me.

  • @Vastickle

    @Vastickle

    6 ай бұрын

    @@notme6753true those gadgets were an acquired taste

  • @kevanprogamer
    @kevanprogamer6 ай бұрын

    Tbh it makes sense why they didn't care about stealth think about if your filled with rage and want to destroy everything u want to brute force it not hide in the shadows talking out enemies one at a time it about sending a message to them.

  • @azeemabrar9252

    @azeemabrar9252

    2 ай бұрын

    well how about spider man without symbiote also miles morales???

  • @StormTrooperEX
    @StormTrooperEX6 ай бұрын

    the zipline was a huge improvement, but yeah, your 100% right

  • @zacharyheath2518

    @zacharyheath2518

    6 ай бұрын

    Agreed! Honestly, that's how I made it fun for me.

  • @mexicanadian0846

    @mexicanadian0846

    6 ай бұрын

    Agreed. But I felt, why introduce the zipline if stealth feels empty or pointless? I thought it was counterintuitive to be honest. I too miss stealth as well. Hope it returns in 3

  • @The-Legend-of-P

    @The-Legend-of-P

    6 ай бұрын

    @@mexicanadian0846yeah all they did for stealth was web line. They introduced it to us and got people hyped but never mentioned it’s the ONLY new stealth change lmao. Seems weird

  • @mexicanadian0846

    @mexicanadian0846

    6 ай бұрын

    @The-Legend-of-P very weird. I loved stealth in the first and MM made me think ahead. 2 felt brutish and I am not a100% fan of it

  • @The-Legend-of-P

    @The-Legend-of-P

    6 ай бұрын

    @@mexicanadian0846 nah I’m not a fan either. It felt no brain type stuff. Very simplistic and no strategy

  • @TonyJaaFan1587
    @TonyJaaFan15876 ай бұрын

    I didn’t personally see anything wrong with the gadgets in this game, I hated pulling up the wheel every time I wanted to use a gadget so I ended up almost never using gadgets for any of the stealth missions, I just stealthfully took everyone down with the normal webs

  • @jahnybravo2168

    @jahnybravo2168

    6 ай бұрын

    yea same. even in this game I tried to not rely on the web lines too much unless I needed to take 2 enemies out at once with that skill or there's no other angle. ive always preferred webbing everybody up to walls and the ceiling like how Spidey probably would actually do it

  • @generalkenobi9307

    @generalkenobi9307

    6 ай бұрын

    It's not so much the gadget wheel being gone that's the issue, as what the gadgets in the first game actually were. You had the trip mine, impact web, web bomb, and taser webs that were pretty fun to use in stealth. In Miles' game he had the remote mine. In the new game, the ricochet web is good, but all the other ones just force you into combat.

  • @shaunavant532

    @shaunavant532

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@generalkenobi9307 web grabber anyone??

  • @A.H.goose1

    @A.H.goose1

    3 ай бұрын

    This makes no sense. Hating the gadget wheel mid combat is fair enough, it’s why the arkham games have quick fire and why they changed things in spiderman 2. But hating it in stealth? Bro what 😂 Half of stealth is you perched observing and looking for opportunities. Switching gadgets takes like 1 second and even slows down time for you so that you don’t miss your opportunity. You are almost always stationary while changing gadgets in stealth

  • @TonyJaaFan1587

    @TonyJaaFan1587

    3 ай бұрын

    @@A.H.goose1 ok? I don’t remember caring how long it took to pull the wheel out to pick a gadget to use, that wasn’t even the point of my comment but go off I guess

  • @morgonyoung4935
    @morgonyoung49356 ай бұрын

    Na it’s still fun being completely stealthy with the symbiote suit, find a good room and enemies could just keep coming to you made my Spider-Man literally look like a mix of a demon and Batman in the night

  • @bolttwo
    @bolttwo6 ай бұрын

    I thought the stealth in this game was still pretty fun. You can upgrade the sonic blast into a lure during stealth, and the web lines allowing for better takedowns later made stealth more streamlined for me. I do think they should have had more gadgets and let you swap them like the abilities.

  • @GloryToGodAlways316
    @GloryToGodAlways3166 ай бұрын

    I remember using spider bro and the bots while surrounded. I could stand surrounded by enemies and let them do the work. It was pretty OP. The gadgets should have stayed but they should have been swappable so we could use them in a style of our own.

  • @Alternatively2020
    @Alternatively20206 ай бұрын

    I loved stealth. It made me feel like an actual spider in a weird way as I was making spider webs since I was creating the most applicable patterns in the sky with the web lines for the room at hand. Just my opinion tho 🤷

  • @OrtegaSauce
    @OrtegaSauce6 ай бұрын

    Despite stealth being heavily ignored in the game, any missions that allowed you to start in stealth were the missions i did 100% finish in stealth. There was maybe one Hunter base that i finished off the last 3 or 4 hunters with guns blazing but that was it

  • @ikea6682
    @ikea66826 ай бұрын

    Bro is complaining just to complain

  • @sup3414

    @sup3414

    6 ай бұрын

    Bro shilling just to shill.

  • @dragonleeman1283

    @dragonleeman1283

    6 ай бұрын

    Y stealth Is fun

  • @user-ew5wv5sq3x

    @user-ew5wv5sq3x

    6 ай бұрын

    It’s a valid complaint though the game is not perfect

  • @sherm2572

    @sherm2572

    6 ай бұрын

    @@dragonleeman1283stealth was too easy with the countless gadgets, it’s actually decently challenging now

  • @dragonleeman1283

    @dragonleeman1283

    6 ай бұрын

    @@sherm2572 it was fun tho their is no Stealth in this game

  • @JamesBlakeBoland
    @JamesBlakeBoland6 ай бұрын

    The problem with stealth with Spider-Man is that he’s too op, super jump, stick to walls, can swing and web up enemies, so it takes away the skill needed for a good stealth experience imo, also knowing u can just go heavy doesn’t create that suspense and risk which makes stealth thrilling. maybe stealth should only be implemented in hostage situations so if u get caught the person your trying to save dies. maybe there Could be random crimes where I have to infiltrate a gang hideout who have a hostage or a banks with multiple hostages. U have to take out all the goons guarding the hostages without being detected and once the hostages are safe then u can go heavy and finish them off? Essentially there needs to be more challenge and repercussions in stealth and that’s it and then being creative with stealth will be fun.

  • @PizzaTimeGuy

    @PizzaTimeGuy

    6 ай бұрын

    That's a great idea.

  • @MegasXRL

    @MegasXRL

    6 ай бұрын

    There was taskmaster missions with hostages on first game.. but now 🤡

  • @theresnothinghere1745

    @theresnothinghere1745

    5 ай бұрын

    "so it takes away the skill needed for a good stealth experience imo" I disagree this is only true if the enemies behave like normal enemies. But if the nemies act with the knowledge spiderman exist you can make fun stuff. Like letting enemies scan walls and roofs or letting them react to webbing left over by spiderman.

  • @matthewrocks23
    @matthewrocks236 ай бұрын

    Honestly this is fine since basically we heavily depended on the gadgets and used them all the time to survive. For this tho it really came in handy more when it came to fighting the symbiotes. With stealth, Peter would be stealthy but the Peter with the symbiote does not care about stealth but would go crazy in combat which suits it better

  • @Spyke7ful
    @Spyke7ful6 ай бұрын

    Web bomb + concussive blast was pretty broken. Sure gadgets made stealth fun but it was not that challenging when you can just use gadgets and not be detected. This one was a lot more challenging when trying to stealth a whole hunter’s base

  • @The-Legend-of-P

    @The-Legend-of-P

    6 ай бұрын

    But you could still use all the gadgets

  • @Spyke7ful

    @Spyke7ful

    6 ай бұрын

    @@The-Legend-of-P the gadgets in this game were really anti stealth, aside from the zipline

  • @The-Legend-of-P

    @The-Legend-of-P

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Spyke7ful yeah it’s annoying! I Don’t like how stealth was just 1 button press and just wasn’t fun

  • @RaianBlockbuster

    @RaianBlockbuster

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Spyke7fulconcussion blast is a distraction when upgraded

  • @Spyke7ful

    @Spyke7ful

    6 ай бұрын

    @@The-Legend-of-P in this game, it was okay to me but in SM1, yeah it was lowkey annoying to be able to stop a crime with two, sometimes one gadget

  • @SuperMoonGamer
    @SuperMoonGamer6 ай бұрын

    “I skipped stealth and went in punching because it’s easier and way more fun.” Sooooo objective achieved?

  • @Chainman-bro

    @Chainman-bro

    5 ай бұрын

    Task failed successfully. I'd say😅

  • @A.H.goose1

    @A.H.goose1

    3 ай бұрын

    You are a good boy. Good consumer. Keep it up

  • @shaunavant532

    @shaunavant532

    3 ай бұрын

    @@A.H.goose1 bro you ok? Did suicide squad get to you?

  • @Jonrocks7
    @Jonrocks76 ай бұрын

    The gadget change was needed for gameplay flow, stealth was NEVER needed unless it’s required. Stealth was way too easy with the enemies being extra dumb in the first games and having a crap ton of gadgets that made it way to easy and not having strategy, in 2 since the gameplay flow is fast paced most of the time, you get less gadgets and therefore harder stealth. Also setting up weblines for when you enter combat is fun.

  • @A.H.goose1

    @A.H.goose1

    3 ай бұрын

    This isn’t a good argument. Spider-man 1 stealth was easy but had opportunities for creativity. So instead of improving on that and making it harder, they just…dumbed it down even more?

  • @JAREXTRAREX
    @JAREXTRAREX6 ай бұрын

    The stealth in the first game was also boring

  • @lnsanityItself

    @lnsanityItself

    6 ай бұрын

    Fax

  • @taxability6244

    @taxability6244

    6 ай бұрын

    I think this man is mainly complaining about the old gadgets being removed since you could be creative with them in stealth and combat

  • @fried_fries

    @fried_fries

    6 ай бұрын

    @@taxability6244I stopped using the gadgets as soon as I wasn’t required to

  • @RandomGuy-gk1tw

    @RandomGuy-gk1tw

    6 ай бұрын

    For real, I can't get ppl who say stealth was ruined. It was ass from the beggining lol.

  • @unholyrevenger72
    @unholyrevenger726 ай бұрын

    I didn't miss it. It actually helps the pacing.

  • @Dexwex3
    @Dexwex36 ай бұрын

    Web line made the stealth fun for me tbh

  • @ace12schweitzer
    @ace12schweitzer6 ай бұрын

    I mean I don't care about stealth. The zipline was an amazing improvement and I can look past the gadgets as they gave us new moves and web wings.

  • @The-Legend-of-P

    @The-Legend-of-P

    6 ай бұрын

    But the zip line omly had the same animation every time. It wasn’t different. It’s using a line, hitting square and you’re done

  • @ace12schweitzer

    @ace12schweitzer

    6 ай бұрын

    @@The-Legend-of-P that fine still was fun placing ziplines all over the place

  • @The-Legend-of-P

    @The-Legend-of-P

    6 ай бұрын

    @@ace12schweitzer true

  • @A.H.goose1

    @A.H.goose1

    3 ай бұрын

    That’s the bare minimum my guy

  • @SuperBlueGamer9000
    @SuperBlueGamer90006 ай бұрын

    Honestly i wish they allowed you to have infinite webbing whenever you used the symbiote

  • @Chainman-bro

    @Chainman-bro

    5 ай бұрын

    Would that make since tho? Not entirely but a decent idea

  • @A.H.goose1

    @A.H.goose1

    3 ай бұрын

    Would be too OP. I know it recharges fast and seems like it wouldn’t make a difference but that short time where it refills makes all the difference

  • @tomhaas7078
    @tomhaas70786 ай бұрын

    In stealth I've had some really cool combos with the ricochet web sticking a lot of people to walls it also kinda works like the impact web from the first game.

  • @legoben98productions
    @legoben98productions6 ай бұрын

    I still had fun with the stealth in this game but I hope that they do improve it and maybe even let the game be longer, I don’t have any issue with the game but I would love to see the sequels and spin-offs being longer from this point

  • @arturollapa7277
    @arturollapa72776 ай бұрын

    Admits going in loud with symbiote is fun and still complained lmao

  • @Real_DvD

    @Real_DvD

    6 ай бұрын

    Cause its meant to be a stealth mission

  • @arturollapa7277

    @arturollapa7277

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Real_DvD if it was meant to be a stealth mission, then you’d fail when caught

  • @arturollapa7277

    @arturollapa7277

    6 ай бұрын

    Like the Mj missions

  • @A.H.goose1

    @A.H.goose1

    3 ай бұрын

    @@arturollapa7277 That’s just a flaw of the games bro, and his entire point in this video 😭 They give you a “stealth option” so they can say “HEY LOOK GUYS WE HAVE STEALTH” but it may as well not exist because there’s no consequence to failure. This can be done easily without nerfing spider-man by using things like hostages

  • @HollowGon
    @HollowGon6 ай бұрын

    To be fair, gadgets in the first game didn't really make stealth good. Every gadget was either a one-shot ability, or a distraction ability. Trip Mine was the best example of a good stealth gadget, whereas Impact Web was just a non-lethal gun. In Spider-Man 2, they encouraged for more deliberate stealth with the zipline, and they allowed for more explosive potential with the new gadgets being able to relocate and distract enemies. If anything, I wouldn't say Spider-Man 2 RUINED stealth; instead, Spider-Man was never good at stealth, but Spider-Man 2 didn't really do enough to make it any better. I think it would be cool to have "Stealth Gadget Toolkit" which would switch in when Spidey is undetected. Then you could have cool gadgets like Trip Mine and other traps while not sacrificing the speed of combat. Plus, most of the fun in Spider-Man Ps4's stealth came from Suit Powers. That shit was funny

  • @missileman-qb7hf
    @missileman-qb7hf2 күн бұрын

    Didn’t know what he was talking about until now. Shows how long we’ve been waiting for this game😅

  • @timotfenyvesi9863
    @timotfenyvesi98635 ай бұрын

    Idk about you guys but pressing the "Special" as Peter and just Brute punching everyone with maximum bass and sound in my headset was one of the most satisfying thing to do in a videogame

  • @pkmntrainerian1092
    @pkmntrainerian10926 ай бұрын

    "I didn't have fun cause it wasn't on baby mode" is what you're trying to say

  • @corvenalemna8631

    @corvenalemna8631

    6 ай бұрын

    People can enjoy games how they like. If they like to have mire variety, more options than thats not a problem. If you dont like the gadgets, dont use them. No need to be an ass about it because someone likes to have more gadgets. Who cares if it's "on baby mode"? Games are meant to be fun. If you need a challenge for that to happen, but that's fine. Point is, as long as people are having fun with a game, who cares? Besides, the point he's making isnt that it's too hard, just that he found it boring. So, in that case, your remark makes no sense

  • @mrmelonman2893

    @mrmelonman2893

    6 ай бұрын

    You glazing hard

  • @zage932

    @zage932

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@corvenalemna8631you shouldn't criticize something you didn't experience. Simply put, this guy must've played in low difficulty

  • @corvenalemna8631

    @corvenalemna8631

    6 ай бұрын

    @@zage932 you mean me, the commentor, or the youtuber?

  • @zage932

    @zage932

    5 ай бұрын

    @@corvenalemna8631 the youtuber

  • @Goofy_Goobington
    @Goofy_Goobington6 ай бұрын

    That's the point. The symbiote makes the host more aggressive which makes it more straightforward when wanting to complete a fight. With the symbiote, it avoids stealth and forces brute strength

  • @malachisotelo8911
    @malachisotelo89116 ай бұрын

    bro said we have to compare them to the arkham games when they are COMPLETELY different.

  • @PreciseSkillzGaming
    @PreciseSkillzGaming6 ай бұрын

    Sometimes I miss the gadget wheel but I primarily love the brute aspect of this game more and love the second game way more than the first one.

  • @NiTroFlash1
    @NiTroFlash16 ай бұрын

    There is one simple answer: literally nobody liked stealth😑😑

  • @cyphoah8748

    @cyphoah8748

    5 ай бұрын

    Okay here’s a great idea then In the sequel improve stealth rather than making it worse??

  • @ronaldluna6709

    @ronaldluna6709

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@cyphoah8748 they rather focus on improving the MJ missions than the stealth.

  • @shaunavant532

    @shaunavant532

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@ronaldluna6709 mj missions are stealth!

  • @jonoden6415
    @jonoden64156 ай бұрын

    You just love to complain about a good game

  • @cyphoah8748

    @cyphoah8748

    5 ай бұрын

    Insomniac shill has been detected

  • @reignellwalker9755

    @reignellwalker9755

    5 ай бұрын

    its a valid criticism.

  • @reignellwalker9755

    @reignellwalker9755

    5 ай бұрын

    Jesus loves you all

  • @lou.fortune

    @lou.fortune

    5 ай бұрын

    idk... running thru kraven the HUNTER's crew as if u were hunting them coulda a been a dope angle to the game *typos

  • @pacman4202

    @pacman4202

    5 ай бұрын

    Comparing a great game to its lacking sequel is a valid complaint.

  • @justjakestuart
    @justjakestuart5 ай бұрын

    People in the comments talking about a feature in the game being removed is because peters symbiote doesn’t care about gadgets, no the creators didn’t care. That was one of my favourite things in the first game!

  • @zeyolivetree
    @zeyolivetree6 ай бұрын

    add a couple extra gadgets for stealth, remove the game literally telling you it’s safe to take someone out and add line-of-sight cones like the TASM 2 game. i think just these few changes would add a layer of difficulty and creativity we haven’t seen in any of the three games. i don’t mind the web lines as i’d prefer to be able to do them because Spider-Man definitely should be able to, but i try to limit the use because they’re very powerful. the only other request i have is to add a mechanic similar to Arkham Knight where if an enemy sees one of his fellows webbed to a wall or vantage point, they’ll cut them down. i don’t want to see it just copy and paste Arkham, but they don’t even try to help each other when they find one of their own webbed up.

  • @shawnthompson2303
    @shawnthompson23034 ай бұрын

    One could argue that is the symbiote affecting YOU, THE PLAYER.

  • @shadtowa8986
    @shadtowa89865 ай бұрын

    Stealth is still creative with wall and ceiling takedowns, and making a whole web of web lines is interesting. Also the gadgets were op, they shifted the creativity and power into other aspects of the moveset.

  • @danielhs9005
    @danielhs90056 ай бұрын

    The gadgets were so goddamn annoying in the first game having to constantly bring yourself out of the action to switch to a different gadget just to switch back to your web shooters just to switch back to a different gadget SM2 nailed it so much more with just the buttons you press to essentially use a refined gadget system with the powers of they had something similar to where you could assign 4 gadgets to the face buttons it would’ve been a lot better but I think 99% of people will say pressing a face button in the middle of the action is so much better than having to pause the game every 2 seconds to switch gadgets

  • @valleyboyradio
    @valleyboyradio5 ай бұрын

    Everyone is saying symbiote Peter wouldn’t care about stealth which i agree, but i think they had a chance to make things actually scary and put fear in enemies similar to how he made MJ feel. We could’ve gotten a more intimidating stealth Peter, who made enemies get terrified like how Batman did in the Arkham games, Batman literally made enemies heart rates increase and that was a cool thing to see

  • @kin4386
    @kin43865 ай бұрын

    Although I heavily disagree about the gadgets, I do admit it was a huge missed opportunity to not incorporate the Symbiote into stealth. We know that it can shapeshift and mimic other clothing, so they could've had it work like Prototype where you disguise yourself as a hunter to walk around hunter bases undetected, like in the party mission where he disguises himself as a waiter. Have it be mapped to the same button as Miles' invisibility. That way both of them have unique stealth powers.

  • @brad3910
    @brad39106 ай бұрын

    They should have made stealth way stronger and scarier with the black suit. They need corner takedowns and more variety

  • @omnimon2230
    @omnimon22305 ай бұрын

    I had fun doing the stealth missions. Listening to them TRY and find me is just…👌

  • @Gingergroot
    @Gingergroot6 ай бұрын

    Yes it would be cool if they still had that gadget wheel I wish the symbiote had some cool things you could do on stealth like pick some up and throw them and whoever you threw at them got knocked with the guy you threw.

  • @imposter0shadow
    @imposter0shadow5 ай бұрын

    Just tell us you suck at stealth without telling us you suck at stealth

  • @nikomatkovich9727
    @nikomatkovich97274 ай бұрын

    I was able to stealth most levels fine. It was actually rare that I had to brute force it

  • @willmarsh2735
    @willmarsh27355 ай бұрын

    A stealth based boss fight against chameleon would go hard in the third game

  • @Darth_Arashi
    @Darth_Arashi6 ай бұрын

    The web zip line made it so I didn’t have to use gadgets. I still rarely used gadgets in the first game. 😂

  • @TheSmar09

    @TheSmar09

    6 ай бұрын

    The zip line was all the stealth you needed tbh 😂 I took down a lot of flame hideouts and other missions just by putting hella zip lines in all angles and webbing enemies up lmao dude in the video spacin, the web zip line made you be creative in stealth

  • @Darth_Arashi

    @Darth_Arashi

    6 ай бұрын

    @@TheSmar09 most people who play really aren’t that good in the game because I did that exact same thing. 😂😭 I had to force myself to stop using the zip line as much because I was cleaning whole hideouts.

  • @RYLIECOOLGAMER
    @RYLIECOOLGAMER3 ай бұрын

    Stealth was my favourite part of spiderman ps4 but it makes sense how peter doesn't need stealth with the symbiote

  • @rushan816
    @rushan8166 ай бұрын

    Am i the only one that actully really liked the stealth in this game like the zip line then just pulling them up was so funny to me

  • @TheEsotericChild_
    @TheEsotericChild_5 ай бұрын

    I feel like having less gadgets made stealth more difficult, which made you have to think twice as hard about how to complete a stealth mission without getting caught.

  • @MysticD_one
    @MysticD_one6 ай бұрын

    I’m just happy they ended stealth with Mary Jane. Peter really should’ve said “I’m the hero, not you!” In the first game.

  • @CazDad
    @CazDad4 ай бұрын

    Stealth is what makes games like this so fun imo my goal was to always stealth the mission the entire way if possible reminded me of playing Arkham

  • @tajjjjjj_
    @tajjjjjj_5 ай бұрын

    Getting rid of the gadget wheel was like the best part 💀it was too cluttered and you know damn well you didn’t even use most the gadgets

  • @EpsteinKilla69
    @EpsteinKilla695 ай бұрын

    I actually like the stealth and how Myles is better equipped for it than Peter. Adds variety and lets us think about who does which missions.

  • @ayodejiodesile5653
    @ayodejiodesile56536 ай бұрын

    Tbh moving away from stealth was a win for me

  • @hayes4762
    @hayes47626 ай бұрын

    I miss some of the gadgets but it makes stealth a little harder and i like that. Makes sense with symbiote spidey too because hes much more aggressive.

  • @randomvoice9558
    @randomvoice95585 ай бұрын

    I've never really seen Spider-Man use stelf in other media outside of the first insomniac game. I always felt like like even without a symbiote, his powers didn't require him to be stealthy.

  • @waltdeezy11
    @waltdeezy116 ай бұрын

    Funny enough, now that you mentioned it, I hardly used Mile's invisibility either. I used it a lot in Miles Morales and there were even missions that required it to progress, but in spiderman 2 you can get through the whole game without even using it once.

  • @scrap-godsuper-zo4740
    @scrap-godsuper-zo47406 ай бұрын

    I like that stealth is optional I do not like mandatory stealth

  • @willwebb7207
    @willwebb72075 ай бұрын

    I totally forgot there was gadgets, but now I knew something was missing, I enjoyed using the gadgets in the first one

  • @aaronhunter6268
    @aaronhunter62684 ай бұрын

    The gadgets made the first game way to easy with the shockwave, impact and web bombs. I still wish the tripwire one was in the game it was so fun

  • @benjaminmorris4962
    @benjaminmorris49625 ай бұрын

    100% agree. Stealth in games is already often too difficult or too easy and almost always far too tedious as is. Making it more boring gives a player no reason to do it.

  • @RonanB99
    @RonanB995 ай бұрын

    Getting rid of the weapon wheel was a great idea. It means combat is fluid because it's not being interrupted the whole time by having to bring up the wheel. I think the first game had too many gadgets as well. Spiderman isn't really about having a million different gadgets at the ready, it's better streamlined.

  • @ThatOneAlternateUniverseAries
    @ThatOneAlternateUniverseAries6 ай бұрын

    I rarely ever used the gadgets in the first game during stealth. It always went: perch web, perch web, do that a few more times, then web strike the last guy. Same with Spider-Man 2 and Miles Morales. Never changed it because I never felt the need to do it any other way than the easy way.

  • @rajankajun
    @rajankajun5 ай бұрын

    This is where the Arkham games shine. Getting caught while in stealth mode in the Batman games proves to be a difficult out and you almost always have to go back into hiding otherwise you get killed. In the spiderman games there really is no consequences to getting spotted.

  • @bluefalcon2472
    @bluefalcon24725 ай бұрын

    Finally!! Somebody said something about the gadget system i miss impact webbing😢

  • @smashmasternl3849
    @smashmasternl38496 ай бұрын

    Well everyone has a preference i didn’t use gadgets for stealth in the first game and in the second game you can now eliminate two enemies at ones and you can make your own ledge with your webs wichis huge

  • @darkwarrior92
    @darkwarrior925 ай бұрын

    I used stealth a lot and never got caught. The webline stealth takedowns were really good

  • @BardockEnjoyer
    @BardockEnjoyer5 ай бұрын

    Since they did state an update with changes will happen I hope that they add gadgets at least for after you get rid of the symbiote and before symbiote but miles gets it anyway.

  • @mifoon8727
    @mifoon87276 ай бұрын

    I’m not usually one to use gadgets or anything like that because I prefer to zip around really fast and do takedowns from walls or vantage points or slack lines/wires. So being able to make my own wires and quickly unlocking the upgrade that lets you grab two guys at once and I was cruising through stealth sections with no problems whatsoever in no time flat this time around.

  • @3badthebad
    @3badthebad6 ай бұрын

    Simply put, the whole point of the symbiote is that it makes Peter all gung-ho. He doesn’t give af about stealth, he only needs the brute force from the symbiote

  • @Iliadic
    @Iliadic5 ай бұрын

    In Spider-Man 3 we need to have Peter's mossions be more brute force and Moles missions generally more on stealth. It fits the characters perfectly. Peter doesnt have camo or electricity, so he would just brute force it.

  • @blaisecargill1987
    @blaisecargill1987Ай бұрын

    I like the web lines and the double takedowns in this game for stealth though.

  • @spidermanmyers
    @spidermanmyers2 ай бұрын

    Playtesters complained about no stealth missions and they didn't want to add them in so they flimily changed a couple missions to have stealth possibilities but didn't bother to make it indepth.

  • @justdom1801
    @justdom18015 ай бұрын

    In Spider-Man miles morales, there’s also no reason to use stealth, because the venom strike is cool and you focus bar super quick.

  • @user-ic1yc9zq9d
    @user-ic1yc9zq9d4 ай бұрын

    Haven't played Spiderman 2, but loved stealth in the first game.

  • @CoffeeMan678
    @CoffeeMan6785 ай бұрын

    definitely felt the same way. although i do like that BECAUSE gadgets are limited, they reduced stealth missions. i only felt like there was only a handful in 2, vs having countless in the first game

  • @user-uo7bf6qv4b
    @user-uo7bf6qv4b5 ай бұрын

    parrying took me the entire game to learn, wish i didn’t die 40+ times to finally beat the game, stealth would’ve been handy yk

  • @MrRed_vr_
    @MrRed_vr_3 ай бұрын

    That’s the point tho. Symbiote Peter doesn’t care about being careful and having stealth

  • @booperdooperdooperbooper9848
    @booperdooperdooperbooper98485 ай бұрын

    Spiderman 2 has that Arkham asylum-level bare-bones stealth which I personally like because it makes it more challenging but I can also understand how some people might find the stealth boring

  • @XoxoZoe411
    @XoxoZoe4113 ай бұрын

    "You can use all your gadgets to set all kinds of traps takedowns" Me:I never did that..

  • @121charbander9
    @121charbander95 ай бұрын

    Tbh i found making a spider web above enemies and using it to hang them from was pretty entertaining

  • @devilalastor3320
    @devilalastor33205 ай бұрын

    As someone who hates stealth I see this as an absolute win

  • @izaactrevino2123
    @izaactrevino21236 ай бұрын

    It didn’t bother me in the first game I always flew in punching🤣🤣🤣🤣same in this one

  • @danielkleimenovas9484
    @danielkleimenovas94844 ай бұрын

    I replayed every Spider-Man game after I played Spider-Man 2. The stealth is way better in Spider-Man 2. I really missed the web lines when I played the other games.

  • @ScottHiggins511
    @ScottHiggins5116 ай бұрын

    Man I loved doing stealth in miles morales just because I can complete the base without rushing in guns blazing after the first round

  • @2kx62
    @2kx626 ай бұрын

    Tbh I didn’t like the web abilities in the last game, I just like to turn my brain off and just fight waves of enemies without gadgets and it also just makes u fell more bad ass especially in the 2nd game.

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