Whatever you’ve done in production has made these speakers sound 10x better than in real life

@aheadofmetal

3 ай бұрын

Wow thanks man. Its pretty minimal. Im about to post a new one, maybe Ill start focusing more on what Im doing in the production...

Came for the speaker comparison, stayed for the riff.

@aheadofmetal

Жыл бұрын

Haha thanks man!

@apexiwildchild

2 ай бұрын

Same bruh!

You're doing a great job. These are some of the best speaker demos on youtube.

@aheadofmetal

Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot! Appreciate it

finally i could hear what a Greenback was about! And I love it a lot.. Both, blended, are a killer joint!

@aheadofmetal

2 ай бұрын

Yea man, Greenback is cool. Lots of 8k slice.

The best comparison of these two speakers for me I’ve seen. Awesome, man! Both sounds great and classic, but I always look towards the greenbacks. I’ve been using greens, v30s and also the 2/2 of them and now I’m gonna get back to the greens again!;) thank you!

@aheadofmetal

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man! I definitely like both. The greenback was brighter than I thought It would be but in the right application it is awesome.

Great production. The riff, the visuals, the mix! Pure gold. Keep up the good work buddy! You should get a raise…

@aheadofmetal

7 ай бұрын

Hey thanks man! I like your thumbnail. Busey all day

Damn dude these are some tasty riffs right here. Excellent demo by the way

@aheadofmetal

7 ай бұрын

Thanks man. I'm working on a new cover right now, should be posted pretty soon.

Yeah totally needed this. Got a cab with British Greenbacks, and was going to switch the bottom speakers to H75 Creambacks, but now I’ve changed my mind back to V30s. Awesome!

@aheadofmetal

10 ай бұрын

Thanks dude! I have considered creambacks also. Every demo I hear, I think they sound great.

I have this speaker combination in a Friedman 4x12 cab. It has this great 3D effect like a wall of sound coming from two amps. Great speaker comparison and great work.

@aheadofmetal

7 ай бұрын

Thanks man!

The greenback sounds killer. You've got some sick riffs and tones.

@aheadofmetal

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man! I have a few new ones that I'll be posting very soon.

Both speakers together kick ass, love the best of both worlds.

@aheadofmetal

Жыл бұрын

Agreed!

Holy cow blended sound awesome

@aheadofmetal

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Fantastic video, congratulations. I've used both speakers in the studio and they sound amazing and very different. In this video i prefer the Greenback!

@aheadofmetal

11 ай бұрын

Thanks dude. I think I need to put the Greenback back in my avatar cab and give it another go :)

I run a 1960A with 1996 V30's and greenbacks in an X pattern. Love it. When recording I quad track with V30's hard to one side and greenbacks hard to the other.

@aheadofmetal

Жыл бұрын

I've experimented with that a little bit. Gives a nice wide stereo field.

luv it. thank you!

@aheadofmetal

2 ай бұрын

No prob dude thanks for checkin it out!

fuck yeah! love the green backs man, that natural speaker peaking in the 25 watts P-owns!

@aheadofmetal

Жыл бұрын

Thanks dude. I dig the greenbacks for sure.

Awesome comparison. For me the Greenback + a Peavey amp like a 6505 is "THAT" sound for me. Really dig it with the Mesa too.

@aheadofmetal

Жыл бұрын

Thanks dude. I was pretty impressed with the Greenback also. Very solid

I prefer Greenbacks. V30s are also very good, but Greenbacks, for me, are more rich.

@aheadofmetal

Жыл бұрын

Greenbacks are great imho.

I really wish you'd done a quick comparison of the whole mix like you did at the end with the guitars solo'd, but I appreciate the video regardless

@aheadofmetal

Ай бұрын

Good point. I started doing that on the newer videos

Question- when mixed in a cab, the V30's dominate. Curious what you or others think if I were to take a 4x12 with V30's, and another 4x12 with Greenbacks- 2 different cabs, going through the same 6505+ head- would the V30's still dominate if they aren't in the same cab?

Like one other poster said... came for the speakers and stayed for the killer riffs!!!!!

@californiadaze

Жыл бұрын

I think the Greenbacks sound great in this mix. The V30s still sound awesome though... a cab loaded with V30s and a cab loaded with Greenbacks would be pretty sweet. Does this track have a name? Can we find it on your bandcamp?

@aheadofmetal

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I agree that the greenback really worked on this track. I should give the greenbacks another go. No name for the track, but Ill be announcing a new project very soon!

@californiadaze

Жыл бұрын

@@aheadofmetal Awesome! Can't wait to hear it. Love this tune. It's dark, kinda sludgy, a head bobber for sure. Love it

@aheadofmetal

Жыл бұрын

@@californiadaze thanks a lot man

Отличное сравнение, v30 идеально подходит для тяжелого стиля, он выделяется своей резкостью. Вот классический рок и блюз это стезя Greenback.

@aheadofmetal

8 ай бұрын

Agreed. I honestly like both very much.

awesome grindy riffage !

@aheadofmetal

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

2 different flavors, both very good. Do you know what year the V30 is?

@aheadofmetal

Жыл бұрын

It was an early 2000. I believe I bought the cabinet in 2003...

My opinion after testing the celestion IR's is that greenbacks are more focused and direct, and vintage 30 are milder, warmer.

@aheadofmetal

7 ай бұрын

Yea i think the greenbacks have more 8k and less of a 4k spike like the v30s.

i prefer the Greenbacks over the V30 i currently have a mesa dual rectifier solo head, 3 channels, and a mesa clone cab 2x12 with 2 Celestions CREAMBACK W each one. very satisfied with it, but i want more crunch, and but i also want to keep the tightness.

@aheadofmetal

22 сағат бұрын

Which version of creamback? I have wanted to try those as well...

@wfd666

19 сағат бұрын

@@aheadofmetal the 75w version

@aheadofmetal

18 сағат бұрын

@@wfd666 nice, that's the version I was going to check out.

Like the sound of those Greenbacks. I'm thinking about buying a Engl cabinet with 4x25W Greenbacks. The other guitarist in my band plays an Engl cab. with 4x60W vintage. Can a 100W Greenback cab. keep up with the 240W vintage cab. We dont use mike's in rehersal.

@aheadofmetal

Жыл бұрын

I think it would. I always think about speaker wattage more in terms of "here is how much volume I can put through them before they start moving". The cool thing about lower wattage speakers is you get a nice push of air on the chugs when you are loud.

@Smurfman256

Ай бұрын

Believe me when I say you're almost certainly not using anywhere remotely near the full power rating of your amp at any given time. 100 watts worth of speakers will be fine. As long as you don't run your master volume all the way up.

This is a great demo! Are these speakers at 8 ohms each? Thanks

@aheadofmetal

Жыл бұрын

These are all 16 ohm speakers actually.

Gonna blend the cabinet with two of each

@aheadofmetal

7 ай бұрын

Blending is the move

Greenvacks always have more presence and clarity. I have no idea why v30s are so popular. I have an orange 212 with them. I don’t know why.

@aheadofmetal

Ай бұрын

Yea I won't lie Im debating taking my v30s out for a while...

Is it just me or does the v30 dominate the sound when combined?

@aheadofmetal

4 ай бұрын

I think so too. Probably because of how prominent the 3-4k spike is. That is the most sensitive area of human hearing from what I understand.

killer sounds

@aheadofmetal

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

@profile_01

Жыл бұрын

@@aheadofmetal Check out the DV77 by Eminence of you havent already

@aheadofmetal

Жыл бұрын

@@profile_01 I have wanted to check that out, seems like it would be awesome.

Impressive comparison, and kudos for the riff. In my book, the Greenback take the win. Mind sharing which microphone you used?

@aheadofmetal

4 ай бұрын

Thanks dude. I thought the greenback crushed this one too. The mic was a regular SM58 (I dont own a 57).

@babatork

4 ай бұрын

​@@aheadofmetalThanks, man! Seems like it's time to grab the 58 and some greenbacks.

@aheadofmetal

4 ай бұрын

@@babatork the 58 is a good mic (57 is more common but I actually like a 58 a little more). Heck even a 20 dollar Amazon basics mic sounds awesome on guitar....

@babatork

4 ай бұрын

​@@aheadofmetal Man, I recently decided to shake things up by using my NT1A microphone with my Peavey 2x12 instead of my trusty Kemper setup. And you know what? I finally achieved the tone I've been chasing for years. It's pretty funny because I always assumed that specific sound I wanted could only come from tubes, so I never even bothered to try without a tube amp. But it turns out, it's more about the cab and mic. I didn't even approach it systematically; I just went for it, slapping the mic center on the speaker in a totally unconventional position. And against all odds, it worked like a charm. This whole experience has got me realizing there's a lot more to speakers than I've given them credit for. So now, I'm diving deep into the world of speaker tech. I can talk hours about it.

@aheadofmetal

4 ай бұрын

@@babatork you and me both bro - I've come to realize a very similar thing. Just by moving a microphone 2mm's right or left changes the tone much more than swapping heads or pedals, and sometimes one side of the speaker sounds better than the other! Lately Ive been far down the speaker buying/selling rabbit hole which is fun. I only have one condenser mic but I never got it to sound good on guitar....glad you got a good tone with one. Makes me want to experiment more with my SM7B... Another thing I found - throwing up 4 mics on 2 2x12 cabinets and blending 4 different speakers together actually sounds great. It's like the phase differences between speakers actually helps the tone round out a bit. I still align the phase visually, but I was amazed how well it works. Even when normalizing the volume between all speakers and blend options, all 4 at the same time sounded the best to me.

Why does the greenback alone sound sweetest

@aheadofmetal

5 ай бұрын

Greenback is very underrated. This was my favorite here too.

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Excellent quality demo. I made some comparisons myself (see my Fredman video if you care, shameless plug). My personal conclusion is that Greenback is an excellent all-around speaker. It's signature sound is kind of a really pleasant cloud of harmonics, which makes it excellent for clean and crunch. The V30 is more focused in its sound, and has more cut. This makes it more fit for certain high gain applications, but makes it less agreeable to clean and crunch. Therefore each speaker has its place. Also, it's a good reason why the speakers can compliment each other!

@aheadofmetal

5 ай бұрын

Yup I agree. The greenback has more content 8k and above which verges on too bright when you hear it by itself. But in a mix, it gives a nice crispy detail without smothering the 4k ambulance/babycry frequency that the v30 is known for. The v30 needs more eq notching when used by itself, but blending somehow works great with the v30.

@aheadofmetal

5 ай бұрын

Checked your fredman video. I use that technique sometimes but normally just blend going straight on and make sure the phase is aligned.

@lordgraga

5 ай бұрын

@@aheadofmetalDid you do any notching/EQ in this example? I guess not?

@aheadofmetal

5 ай бұрын

@@lordgraga To be honest I don't remember, I probably did a little notch in the 4k region. That is pretty typical for me.

@lordgraga

5 ай бұрын

@@aheadofmetal Yeah I haven't even started recording my first EP yet so I don't know what I'm gonna end up liking most in context. Fredman does have a nice sound, but we'll see.

Greenbacks ftw

@aheadofmetal

Жыл бұрын

They are growing on me for sure!

Gotta admit - How it sounds alone VS in a mix is a huge difference. Alone, the greenback is far more full, V30 lacks tonal range. In the mix though... the sharper bite of the V30 cuts through better to my ear! More dynamic with a quicker attack - it sits in the mix better, with the greenback feeling a bit flat. It may sound better on its own, but nothing is on its own in a mix - each element has to command the space it sits in, and what seem like shortcomings of the V30 are exactly what allow it to own the place it fits into.

@aheadofmetal

2 ай бұрын

Bingo! One of the biggest revelations to me over the past year is just how much listening to guitar tones in solo is pointless. I always choose the darker and fuller speaker in solo. But I am consistantly surprised at how little low end you actually need/want from guitars in a full mix.

The blended mix is the winner

@aheadofmetal

Жыл бұрын

Blending is usually the way I go. As long as the phase is right, it usually works better.

What amp tho

@aheadofmetal

Жыл бұрын

Mesa Boogie Trem o Verb 100 watt

@matt-evans

3 ай бұрын

@@aheadofmetal Do you recall the general settings? Red channel? Vintage or modern channel cloning?

@aheadofmetal

3 ай бұрын

@@matt-evans if I remember correctly this would have been EL34s, red channel preamp cloned to the orange poweramp. Probably a bit of extra mids on the amp and a little less treble this time around.

@aheadofmetal

3 ай бұрын

@@matt-evans knowing me, the channel volume would have been up pretty high also.

@matt-evans

3 ай бұрын

@@aheadofmetal Appreciate the info! You're getting some great tones. Do you typically run the loop off for fuller low end?

are the greenbacks you used 16ohm?

@aheadofmetal

Жыл бұрын

Yes sir!

@genghisghost

Жыл бұрын

@@aheadofmetal interesting!

@aheadofmetal

Жыл бұрын

@@genghisghost why do you ask? I just replaced 2 8 ohm speakers in that cabinet...

@genghisghost

Жыл бұрын

@@aheadofmetal in my experience, 8 ohm sounds way different than 16 ohm. 16 ohm tends to sound more scratchy and have less bass but yours sound great even at 16 ohm which is why i was surprised. I use Heritage Greenbacks with the heavy H magnet. at least with those, there’s a huge difference between 16 and 8 ohm. i settled on 8

@genghisghost

Жыл бұрын

@@aheadofmetal may i ask what amp you were using in the demo?

Greenie sounds evil.

@aheadofmetal

7 ай бұрын

Agreed!