'South of the Border' World in Action 1971 - Troubles Documentary
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Growing up during the troubles in Belfast was a crazy time. I’ve seen a lot of young people online recently saying that they’d “take up arms” for their side . These people don’t realise what this period was like for both catholics and Protestants. Friends , families , co workers dying on a yearly basis , sometimes multiple funerals a year .
@rileyhughes5613
6 ай бұрын
You were too cowardly to join and help defend the murder of your countryman? Nice!!
@ATroubledLand
6 ай бұрын
One of the main reasons I decided to take this on. At least in some small way these documentary give an idea of how it was but they will never fully grasp living through those days with no end in sight.... I still can't believe we came out of it. Appreciate the comment chum. Merry Christmas to you.
@stephenholmes1036
6 ай бұрын
Im from the Republic these young ijuts must be stopped! Garrett Fitzgerald has them to a tee!
@glasgowrangersyouletyourcl5032
6 ай бұрын
They're watching videos on social media that glorify the troubles. They are bored and think it would be good crack to go back to the rioting every night. If only the knew the fear and pain we went through on a daily basis. I remember going to work every morning and hoping I came home especially in late 80s early 90s
@markace1071
6 ай бұрын
Well said
I hope everybody appreciates how extraordinary this footage is. Only ATL could put this on the channel for all to see. Nollaig Shona Duit mo Chara! 🎄🤶💚🇮🇪
@cbradioghosttalk1986
6 ай бұрын
I agree
@stephenholmes1036
5 ай бұрын
So do i , Thank you for this
extraordinary footage. I grew up in all this and i have to say that at a young age most of it sailed right over my head so these docus are priceless to me. Well done again mate, you are doing a great service
Did 4 tours from the late 70s and 80s. Although I’m proud in a way - I joined up under no illusions - and even enjoyed it, historically Britain (and England before that) were wrong. And they committed dreadful crimes upon the Irish people. Over centuries. I have no truck with indiscriminate bombers. But I can respect the soldiers who bore arms against the British Army. It wasn’t a war. It became, for us, a counter-insurgency operation. It remained for the IRA and Sinn Fein a fight for freedom. I knew many such freedom fighters. We both lost our brothers. I’m glad the Irish people in the north have peace, albeit fragile. I served with ex-miners. We wondered if we might find ourselves in IRA boots had our fates been otherwise. The British political cant was disingenuous.
@gw2891
6 ай бұрын
Were you infantry?
@trevorcook9680
5 ай бұрын
A fair & articulate comment from someone who was there
@RalphBrooker-gn9iv
5 ай бұрын
@@gw2891 Yes. Royal Hampshire Regiment.
@ashleyupshall7641
5 ай бұрын
Well said a balanced and justified comment.
Amazing point in time documentary. Reflects that in 1971 the situation was out of control. Fitzgerald and Cruise O’Brien sounded desperate whereas the Provos sounded composed. The fact that the Chief of Staff of the Provos could appear on a public platform in Dublin showed how weak the Lynch government was after the Arms trial debacle.
As a southerner, it really makes me sick hearing the pontificating of Garett Fitgerald and Conor O'Brien. They had no idea of what it was like to live in Northern Ireland during this time.
@greglyons2526
5 ай бұрын
The majority of catholics voted for the SDLP
@stephenholmes1036
5 ай бұрын
What did you want Jack Lynch to do? The problem was Maudling and Heath who didn't bring in direct rule when the soldiers came. Faulkner and Dr No destroyed it.
@greatest7391
5 ай бұрын
Neither did you
@malachy1847
4 ай бұрын
@@stephenholmes1036 Thinking one might muse that the historical narrative was that Reggie Maudling and Ted Heath only came to power in the Spring of 1970, being so it was James Callaghan and Harold Wilsons government that were in power in 1966-1970 predated that of Maudling and Heaths government 19th June 1970, [ but as for those Direct Rule plans that came in much, much later 28th March1972] other events were to the fore out of Downings Street ,'Falls Curfew' July 1970, Internment 9th August 1971 then of course Bloody Sunday 30 Jan 1972...
@dobman2011
4 ай бұрын
Self-interest, amazing how southern politicians are exactly the same now, over 50 years later.
My folks thankfully managed to get to South Africa in the 70s but we still visited family every few years my mum and dad were so heartsore seeing what was happening. My dad passed before he was able to go back one last time mam the same.
Same here alot went over our heads down south,but i do remember been a kid and cycleing every day down Mrs Tyrells shop to see had she put up any new pictures of hunger strikers that had passed warriors of Ireland,it hit me hard as a preteen they only wanted POW status it was that simple for me its our country british troops on streets of the occupied counties was a war,a lot i dont know these docu's fill in the gaps in my Irish History,Thank you ☘️💯
@Eddie10777
6 ай бұрын
Arklow ? I remember this at Tyrells shop. Thanks
@TroyaE117
6 ай бұрын
"occupied counties"? Yea, "occupied" by people that wanted nothing to do with the likes of O'braudagh. And no wonder.
@2815andy
6 ай бұрын
Then you should of taken up arms and helped out your fellow brethren then
Thank You for the videos
It all could have been avoided - very sad.
@dobman2011
4 ай бұрын
It couldn't.
Thank you for another great footage. I remember these things happen vaguely. As i was also very young.
SEASONS GREETINGS,,, Great documentary series,,,,, 👌👍👍☘️☘️☘️✌️🇮🇪
I am 59 in/from Liverpool, I have studied the history of Ireland ... I can understand (over the period of history) why people have joined the I.R.A. yet the only outcome - way forward is democratic politics. As for my perspective, I am a Nationalist ... I have no doubt that within the next twenty years ( I hope I see it!) Ireland will be a 32 county Irish Republic, how by democratic politics!. One thing I hate is The Border ... Its the British Partition of Ireland!.
Didn't know an Englishman in charge of the military of the IRA in 1971😮
@ATLmodK
6 ай бұрын
I don’t think anybody who considered himself an Englishman was. Sean McStiophian obviously did not consider himself English 🇮🇪🇮🇪.
@davidmccann9811
3 ай бұрын
Quite a surprise that. Maybe he was of Irish heritage.
That cratering of the roads on the border seemed completely pointless.
We may have great men, but we'll never have better...Our day Will Come..
@TroyaE117
6 ай бұрын
Your day has passed. Your country is flooding with those that owe it nothing, or are you yet to notice?
I'm Scottish a love the documentaries pateon cover
Keep them flowing my Bredren ❤
What a heid of hair old Garret Fitzgerald had 😂
Conor Cruise was some hypocrite. The biggest egomaniac of all time.
@irishdepartmentofagriculture
4 ай бұрын
He became a Unionist in late life
Fight War ☮️ Not Wars. ✌🏻
The old car was very clever. If you know you know))
I saw a short film some years ago of PIRA in the early days giving military honours to the deaths of British soldiers in N Ireland
@ATLmodK
6 ай бұрын
Respect for the life of a soldier.
@JimboBond71
6 ай бұрын
i've seen british troop, officers too, saluting a passing IRA volunteers funeral cortege.
@cbjgdicad1
6 ай бұрын
@@JimboBond71 Yes, I may have been confused. It was a few years ago.
@josephcurley8226
6 ай бұрын
It was during the funeral of Charlie Hughes, a PIRA volunteer killed in a fued with OIRA, a British soldier saluted the passing cortege.
@Waynebridgeof
6 ай бұрын
@@josephcurley8226 fair play joe Charlie was respected from castle street to poleglass and beyond man of the falls 🫡
Being a newly married eighteen year old in Belfast in 1969 on the Protestant side of Crumlin Rd just below Ardoyne chapel. I also find these archived accounts invaluable. I couldn’t see the bigger picture at the time. But now looking back I have to think what was it all for? They didn’t want us to have six counties , but welcomed the third world in which is now taking over, 52 mosques in Dublin! Make it make sense!
@skeletor8169
6 ай бұрын
You’re upset because people want to practice their religion? Pathetic. Get a grip.
@Noirinni
6 ай бұрын
"They" being Irish Republicans wanted to re-unite the country. It wasn't about everyone being Irish and Catholic, more about everyone being Irish regardless of religion. At least for Republicans. What have Mosques to do with anything? So what if an immigrant population with a different religion practice their faith here? It's not as though they are trying to dominate any groups of people with a different faith.....
@GG-kf8ox
6 ай бұрын
💯 % right ✅️ !
@Earhairy
6 ай бұрын
"....but welcomed the third world in which is now taking over,...." The same thing was said about Ireland and the Irish when they were immigrants to other nations. The Irish don't get to complain about immigration. Neither do the English, Scottish or Welsh for that matter.
@davediesel90
6 ай бұрын
Can't beat a bit of bigotry 😂
I always think the politicians of the time were wishy washy and ambiguous in relation to this struggle. Fitzgerald is a good example.
@stephenholmes1036
5 ай бұрын
John Hume, wasnt, Bernadette Devlin wasnt, Jack Lynch was a good man our last honest Taosach
@countsmyth
5 ай бұрын
@@stephenholmes1036 The Irish government didn't do much to help the nationalists up north. Maybe I'm wrong.
@stephenholmes1036
5 ай бұрын
@@countsmyth The mudee of a Garda officer didn't help early om. It was a very difficult situation
@greatest7391
5 ай бұрын
@@stephenholmes1036 your're having a laugh
The British Army were in a catch 22 situation,damed if they do & damed if they dont!!
7:45 Can anyone say "called it?"
State of sinn fein now
🇮🇪❤️🇮🇪❤️🇮🇪❤️🇮🇪❤️🇮🇪❤️🇮🇪❤️🇮🇪❤️ Ireland is NOT a troubled land and never has been any where in Ireland,.. England is the problem NOT Ireland,. In the North and the South of England life is very much different yet England is one country with no border,.. There is NO problem in the North and the south of Ireland, just the problem that England as created,.. Ireland is the most peaceful country in the whole of Europe, they've never wanted to invade England,.. Or any other country for that matter... 💓🇮🇪💓🇮🇪💓🇮🇪💓🇮🇪💓🇮🇪💓🇮🇪💓🇮🇪💓🇮🇪,
@greatest7391
5 ай бұрын
Only because they hadn't the means to do so lol
@ricardomcmahon5658
4 ай бұрын
Well said mo chara
Why aren't these groups concerned about Ireland now having completely open borders and allowing , even encouraging, the rest of the world to pour in ? All at the expense of native Irish people.
Fitzgerald reminds me of Varadkar
How fuckin big was that hole in the road!
Sean Stephen aka Sean mc stoifan AN ENGLISH MAN...COLLUSION WAS ALWAYS HAPPENING EVEN BK THEN.
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C.R.O halfwith
Its only the BRit s
Very interesting that at 2:10 and 22:40 the front Bencher calls the PIRA “ fascist " and "Nazis". He also calls them socialist, so I shall refer to them as national socialists . This term may certainly be applied to Sin Fein today. This secterianism also is a parallel to say Hamas or the PLO which find many supporters in Irland and NI today. If we then remember how keen the Irish were on Adolf Hitler......... The rampant antisemitism today amongst the Irish left also underlines their national socialist credentials .
You asked me to "edit" what i said, how? Id nog posyed it yet, it was only once i posted it you came with edit, or post anyway, well ofcourse i posted it Anyway. Thankyou. Pity we were fooled!
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