These 3 episodes is going to be a life saver for a lot of Sony portrait shooters. Jumping from video to video to make an informed decision has been my nightmare. This will save time and coming from the trusted Dustin Abbott, no one is going to make a wrong decision after watching the 3 episodes. Please make an ultra wide angle for sony as well. My suggestion is to compare the 16-35 Zeiss and GM, 12-24 Sony, 14-24 Sigma (the new 2.8 for sony), 17-28 Tamron and perhaps a comparison of wide angle primes (such as Laowa, Sigma, Samyang, etc). Thanks again for the time and effort you put into these videos.

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

We'll see if I can coordinate something like in the future.

That is really incredible that you gathered all six of these lenses, a feat that is rarely accomplished in a review. Amazing work done here.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

It took some planning, for sure.

lol can we just take a moment to appreciate dustin's son for putting up with his dad's random request

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

He's pretty accommodating!

@RussSchampers

4 жыл бұрын

I was imagining the conversation prior to shooting. "Son, I need you to sprint your tail off, I'm testing AF" "But dad I'm photosensitive" "Just one sprint up the yard, son" *son complies* *while son is still panting, Dustin detaches lens* "Son, I need you to do that 5 more times" *Dustin calmly attaches next lens* **click**

Congrats (and thank you) for your awesome work. You're setting the bar very high.

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

You're welcome.

Been waiting on this video ! Thank you!!!!

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

My pleasure.

thank you for all the time you spend on these reviews

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

Thanks Dustin...looking forward to part 3

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

Coming tomorrow!

Man! what a great work you are doing with this review.So much time and effort you put in there,i really appreciate!!!you killed it!!!

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Once again, you are clutch with these videos🤘

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

My pleasure.

Really appreciate your straightforward, no nonsense approach. Subscribed.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub!

Thank you for such in-depth guide. I watched the videos of this series multiple times. This has been a very valuable guide to let me decide on what 85mm lens I will buy next (the Samyang). very much appreciated.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome!

kudos for such a comprehensive work with so many lenses. Your analysis is laced with real world shots. Not just we your audience should be thankful for this video but the lens makers should appreciate as well. Thanks so very much for the great work you have been doing. My best.

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind feedback.

@cimage1000

5 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI You deserve much more than just a feedback. I hope these lens maker's look at the effort you make and give you what you deserve. Thanks for all you do. May God be with you and your family.

Most excellent! I do live my rokinon 85 1.4. Can't wait to see the next video.

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

Next week!

Great as always! Thanks!

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

You're welcome.

Thanx!

What a thorough test!

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

That's the goal!

Great job! Dustin Abbott.

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Great video of the 85mm comparision. 🙏

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Excelente Review!

@DustinAbbottTWI

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

fantastic Dustin ... great work

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

My pleasure.

Thank you for making this.

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

My pleasure

Incredibile work

@DustinAbbottTWI

3 жыл бұрын

Tahnk you!

Very Nice Comparison, Appreciate the effort that you have put on this Video , Well Done :) , Looking for more.

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

You're welcome.

Great review. Love those sample shots of the Samyang, 19:02.

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

Yes - I've had a little longer to shoot with it, so I have a few more strong images.

Great video as always!! I've used that 85 1.8 to shoot dance recitals and it is so quick and accurate it is nuts! I hardly ever miss a shot and if I do it's usually me and not the camera or the lens. I'm still VERY intrigued by the Samyang for it's extra depth of field option and it's creamy bokeh along with those warm tones it produces. Can't wait to see the next episode!!

@neohsoonsien4007

5 жыл бұрын

High Five... I owned the Sony 85mm f1.8..

@DennisMoncla

5 жыл бұрын

@@neohsoonsien4007 And now??? Samyang?

@neohsoonsien4007

5 жыл бұрын

@@DennisMoncla explore other lens first... I can't afford expensive lens yet... Samyang might be a good option for your case besides GM, if you wish to upgrade... >.

Oh man! Your reviews are SO good, Dustin! I tried the Sony 85 GM, FE 85 1.8 and the Sigma 85 and eventually decided that the Sigma was the best. The Samyang seems like an extremely amazing lens especially for the price; kudos to them for competing with Sony!

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

Glad this helped.

Really looking forward to the image quality test for sure, this af result went how I thought it would for the most part. I own the Sony 85mm 1.8 and I know it’s superb for AF. I was pleasantly surprised by the Samyang here.

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

The Samyang really was the surprise performer.

Cool.

great work! I recently decided to get the Samyang over the GM (after I owned the FE 85 1.8) and I am very happy so far with the AF;: shooting my younger kids while playing outdoors and moving around. is a blast and eye-af works really well too.

@ab85main73

5 жыл бұрын

Felix Morsdorf do you prefer it over the 85 1.8?

@felixmorsdorf1391

5 жыл бұрын

That is a tough one, both are very good. Sold the 1.8 as I had the Batis 135 for outdoor & kids, but then got some studio lights and *needed* another 85 and based on the reviews i decided to give the Samyang a try. If it was my only (short) telelens, I likely would have kept the 1.8, it is hard to beat on value and size.

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

Nice to hear. I really like the Samyang, too

Thank you man!!!

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome.

I can't wait to hear the conclusion of this for I'm about to buy my own 85mm.

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

Good timing!

Awesome. My big question, and I hope someone can answer here, is how well the newcomers Samyang and Viltrox Eye-AF is working on A7R2.

Im loving this series, would be nice to get that same series with some 50mm lenses, great job :)

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

I did one like that comparing the 1.4/50 Planar, 1.8/55mm Sonnar, and the 1.4/50 Samyang AF. I later compared the Sigma 1.4/50 ART.

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/e39kvNGuaJi2c9Y.html

@machmutdoener

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah right i saw that one just wasnt in my mind but i would have loved it to see it with the sony 1.8 and the canon (because you can get it for so little money )

Thank you Mr Abbott

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

You're welcome.

Another extremely informative review! I would love an 85mm that was good at tracking subjects walking toward the camera in video mode. I know the Samyang was not great at this when it first came out. Wonder if the updates have made it more of a contender in this respect.

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

I think it is pretty clear from this test that it has been dramatically improved.

Cool video nice

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I have Sony 85mm 1.8. Awesome lens. I've been very happy. Now thinking also Sigma 105mm.

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

The Sigma 105 is a sweet lens...though it is huge!

I love my Sony 85mm 1.8 and looking forward to getting the 35mm even though it seems a little over priced.

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

It is overpriced, but if it performs as well as the 85mm (and to a lesser extent, the 55mm), it will probably be a great lens.

@ekphotography

5 жыл бұрын

Dustin Abbott the 55 is Zeiss though, right?

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

It's a Sony but with Zeiss input.

@sadenb

5 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI I think too that it is overpriced. It should have been around $600 . Hoping to see a review from you. I already pre-ordered it but will return if it doesn't turn out to be good. I really need a good 35 mm for everyday photography.

I can't wait for the final review about the IQ. I returned my Samyang 85 1.4 due to not being sharpe enough/not focusing correctly at 1.4 for fully body shots.

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

Interesting. That wasn't my experience at all.

@miket2164

5 жыл бұрын

Was it v4 ?

Thanks Dustin. I’ve decided to finally sell my 105mm sigma ART for the Samyang 85 mm f1.4. Love hate with the lens. Hate to lose it because of the IQ, but I think is the right choice to allow me to capture more event shots without standing out with the ginormous lens. Thanks for your review that ultimately helped me to purchase the Samyang 45 and 85.

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

I've just started my review of the 45mm. It's a pretty sweet little lens from what I've seen so far.

@Crysmeth_

5 жыл бұрын

Dustin Abbott yes it is. And I believe it comes head to head with the zeiss 55 instead of Sony’s nifty fifty. It’s an awesome light weight lens, sharp enough really for real life use and love the case they threw in. Really very useful.

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

The little case is sweet, for sure!

How do I update my 85gm? Love your reviews, this is another winner!!

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

Check out this link: www.sony.com/electronics/support/lenses-e-mount-lenses/sel85f14gm/downloads

I hope you get to the other GMs and compare against Canon equivalents EF and RF. I also like your focus scoring system. Way more informative of the focus test then just hit or miss. Because in the real world sometimes we have to use what we get. Sometimes the shot is slightly off because of the heat of the moment. Great job as always!

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. I don't often do cross-system comparisons, as it is very hard to separate lens performance from camera performance. It's rare, for example, that two cameras have the exact same resolution, which obviously impacts performance.

These are beautiful images Dustin! Are you using your color presets you designed for the a7riii with these or are they unedited? Thanks!

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

Typically only minor edits, though I do sometimes use some basic color calibration presets on import.

Please include this AF analysis in all your definitive lens reviews in the future

@DustinAbbottTWI

3 жыл бұрын

Tracking action isn't always practical, but I do typically do it with sports oriented gear.

I knew from day 1 the Sony FE will be a great lens. I got it as a gift from my sister and I think it is performing as my best lens. I never thought I would love shooting portraits until I had this lens.

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

It's a great lens for the money.

Great review! Much thanks for all that labor! Does anyone know where to find out which Samyang lenses have weather sealing? I failed to find anything that looked like a spec sheet on their site... And we have some serious downpours where I live.

@DustinAbbottTWI

3 жыл бұрын

The Samyang 85mm F1.4, 35mm F1.8, and then I know the 14mm F2.8 on Canon RF does. There might be one or two others I'm not thinking of.

Dustin, did you have the updated firmware on the Sigma installed that came out on 7/18?

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

This was shot prior to that.

I like the test. But as you pointed out all of them did pretty well. Would have been a bit more interesting with some more challenging AF tests. Like AF in a heavy backlit scene, AF in very low light, Eye-AF with a continously moving model. Or combine them all into AF with a moving model, in low light with heavy backlighting. Basically how do they perform when you need great AF the most

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. Creating these scenarios and testing six lenses simultaneously is very time consuming.

Very informative and thorough. Love your reviews. I have the Sony FE 85 1.8 on my Sony a6000 and I love it. By the way, do you still keep your 55-210?

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

I didn't. I just didn't use it much, and it wasn't really up to my optical standards.

@DjimmyTrovy

5 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI Ok, thanks.

Could we get a low light focus performance both speed and reliability test?

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

Probably not, as I've already moved on.

Thank you very much for reviewing these 'competitors' from the point of view of shooting action/continous autofocussing/tracking, that's something I very rarely come across in reviews overall. I was very surprised though with your excellent results of the Sony 85 F1.8 - I recently bought a Sony a 7C camera for his good action stills and that was the first lens I bought for it........to return it the next day because of it's disappointing results in the tracking area : it was slow to find the subject (if it even did find it at all), eg. locked on to the railing of a bridge where my dogs came running over to me and so on. Now you made me very confused with this results : I was considering the Batiss 85 instead, but should clearly buy the 85 1.8 again and hope for a better specimen?

@DustinAbbottTWI

3 жыл бұрын

Hmmm, it could be the fault of the lens, but considering you are new to the camera, there's also a chance you didn't have things set up properly yet. A big issue can be if you have human eye af engaged when trying to track animals and vice versa

@123sette

3 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks for your reaction :-) . I don't think the settings could have been the problem because after returning the lens I didn't have any ff lens yet so I used my 18-105 F/4 apsc lens (which I had from my former Sony a6300) and that lens did a perfect focussing and tracking job in the same circumstances (also with animal eye tracking on). But anyway, I'm very glad with your review, I certainly want to purchase an 85mm ff and I had the Zeiss Batis in mind but might have to reconsider.

Quick question; I heard you talking in another video about stops of stabilization when talking about lenses with no Internal stabilization. What is exactly stops of stabilization and how do we measure that?

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

A stop of stabilization is measured by a stabilizers ability to provide steady results at one stop less than the shutter speed/focal length relationship. Let's say that the ratio for a 100mm lens is 1/100th second. A stabilizer with one stop of stability would allow you to shoot 1/50th second instead (provided your subject is still). Two stops would be 1/25th, etc...

As far as the AF goes, I'd go for the Samyang. For the price is just a sweet spot.

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

I really like the Samyang, actually. It works great for my purposes.

0:30 omg you have all of those 85mm lens.

@DustinAbbottTWI

3 жыл бұрын

No...most of them were loaners. I own two 85mm lenses - the Samyang AF 85mm F1.4 for Canon RF and the Sigma 85mm F1.4 DN for Sony (neither of which are featured in this review)

so the tokina 85 1.8 looks very impressive. would love for you to review it. i got the rokinon after watching this video but i updated the firm ware and it fully bricked the lens. dock and camera have no idea its there. and rokinon says itll be 250-350 to fix it. i wont be buying rokinon ever again. tokina though looks like itll be the new best 85.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

That's very strange regarding your Rokinon. I've never seen that, and your lens should be under warranty.

The only question I have about the Samyang lens is, if I buy it today, will i get the updated version?

@DustinAbbottTWI

2 жыл бұрын

I would definitely think so at this point.

I know I am two years late to this party lol, but just to double check, the Sigma in this review was the HSM version, not the newer Sigma 85mm 1.4 DG DN Sony, correct? My understanding, which cld very much be wrong, is that the second version with the DN designation was specifically designed for Sony mirrorless. The DN one probably wasn't out yet at the time of this video. Trying to decide between the Samyang and the Sigma DN. I already have the Sony 85mm 1.8 though. Maybe I need neither, I'm all set? But there is just something abt that 1.4. Buttery bokeh and just the tiniest bit more 3D. Or I am imagining it?

@DustinAbbottTWI

2 жыл бұрын

That's correct. The DN lens is fantastic. I bought one myself.

I preferred the Sony GM for the video racking test because it zooms the least when you change focus. On many of the others it was very distracting.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

That's a definite consideration for those whose priority is video.

Photographers are totally spoilt for choice these days, whether it be lenses or cameras, looking forward to the image tests!

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

That's so true!

best test of the year. with a9 will be diferent

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

That's probably true, though there are many more people with an A7 body than an A9 body.

@nyneak

5 жыл бұрын

Dustin Abbott I have A7III + mc11+ 85Art. Fw 2.0 with face detect was much faster then fw 3.0 with forced eye detect. for me is a big big disappointment and is intendet to sell more a9. I ca not downgrade to 2.0 or to disable eye detect and use only face detect.

Is the samyang reliable for weddings compared to the Sony 1.8?

@DustinAbbottTWI

3 жыл бұрын

What camera body are you using? If you are using one of the newer, better focusing cameras, and have the current firmware update on the Samyang, I believe it to be just fine.

@91krarup

3 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI I just ordered the a7 iii. Thank you☺️

Samyang for me - cuz I'm poor lol

@waltervanlille2263

5 жыл бұрын

The native Sony 1.8 isn't that much more expensive, is it?

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

It's less...but it's also F1.8

@waltervanlille2263

5 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI - Personally, unless I shoot full-body, I don't like going lower than 2. There's only so many ultra hi-def eyebrows with blurry eyed photos a man can stomach. In other words: For me, 1.4 would probably just be an exercise in frustration.

I believe your test shows that the most important thing for AF performance is the system inside the camera body. I mean, 76% hit rate of a moving subject from a no-name, wide aperture lens is THE WORST result lol... Just think about it :)

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

That's 100% true. Sony has done a great job of continually tweaking their AF systems (even via firmware) to produce cameras with truly excellent focus.

I think ure son ran faster when u shot with the sigma - pls make new testing and let him run again^^ - When he ran for the sony 1.8, he was already tired, so u could take more photos and AF had an easy game - just kidding. thanks for all ure testing. greetz from germany

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

LOL.

@TheFalkingFive

4 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI i have good sigma speed when i go jogging.

SAMYANG has bad QC. My copy goes back to the shop. AF.C misses all the time. :(

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

Which lens? I've now tested most all of their AF lenses and I've not found that to be the case other than some focus inconsistencies with the 35mm F1.4.

@sulev111

4 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI Samyang AF 85 F1.4. My copy has issues - it cannot focus at infinity and struggles with AF.C. I went to a local shop and did some tests comparing it to another working Samyang AF 85. ( I have the latest firmware on both the A7-III and the lens.)

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

That's too bad. I own a copy of that lens, and mine is very reliable.

First