Is the Samyang 85mm f/1.4 Lens Better than the Sony?

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Lee compares the Sony's 85mm 1.4 to the much less expensive Samyang version.

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  • @RealRaynedance
    @RealRaynedance5 жыл бұрын

    You can get this lens and the Samyang AF 35mm f/1.4 for the cost of the 85 GM and still have over $500 left. And THAT is amazing.

  • @DrBluntPK

    @DrBluntPK

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have the 24-70GM, 70-200GM, Sigma 135 1.8 and Sony 85 1.8 The Samyang 35 1.4 is by far my most used lens.

  • @RealRaynedance

    @RealRaynedance

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@DrBluntPK I was considering Sony's 70-200 f/4 because I also have the 85, but Tamron is due to launch a telephoto zoom soon and who knows. Maybe it'll be one of those.

  • @DrBluntPK

    @DrBluntPK

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@RealRaynedance You'll get the Tamron. Easy sell. Bokeh will hardly be different but the ability to be at 2.8 is a big difference in light

  • @RealRaynedance

    @RealRaynedance

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@DrBluntPK True enough, but it's very rare that I ever need something that bright anymore. _Usually_ if I do, the 85 is long enough.

  • @mladenp__

    @mladenp__

    5 жыл бұрын

    I found barely used (looked as just unpacked) Samyang 35 - 1.4 and 14 - 2.8 with update adapter, all together for 950€ (around 1050$), and just ordered today Samyang 85 - 1.4 for 510€ - 555$ (vat excluded), I'm sure that 85 GM ISN'T worth alone as these 3 Samyang lenses for almost the same price...

  • @zak1dqcrj263
    @zak1dqcrj2635 жыл бұрын

    About the auto focus, are you just watching it on the back LCD? On a bigger screen it's clear that SONY keeps up better, but as you said, not scientific.

  • @copperx

    @copperx

    5 жыл бұрын

    Exactly my thought. So if the focus pull scenario is really relevant, I guess the Sony is much better from what could be seen in the video.

  • @Swizzterz

    @Swizzterz

    5 жыл бұрын

    I thought the same thing, the sony out performed the samyang but a long shot in the autofocus test. But I was still very impressed by the lens

  • @Joe.484

    @Joe.484

    5 жыл бұрын

    yep, totally faster.

  • @BURTBROWN

    @BURTBROWN

    5 жыл бұрын

    Basically, I agree very much with this test! I do, however, agree with some of the other commenters that the Sony lens DID focus a bit more accurately and smoothly than the Samyang. Is that worth the additional price of the Sony?... Well, NOT for MOST photographers and videographers. BUT IF SOMEONE KNOWS THEY NEED THAT SMOOTH FOCUS, YES GET THE SONY. The shot into the sun (something I wouldn't ever do normally) again the Sony had better contrast. Again, not worth the cost for me. I'm IMPRESSED with the Samyang!

  • @FStoppers

    @FStoppers

    5 жыл бұрын

    You're correct. It was much better full screen than I could see on location.

  • @patrickfutato6555
    @patrickfutato65553 жыл бұрын

    I’ve watched at least a dozen reviews of the samyang/rokinon, and I think yours is my favorite so far. You mentioned a few times that your tests weren’t “scientific”, but that’s what made them great. If you’re not certain which one is focusing faster, or which one has the more accurate colors, that tells me everything I need to know. 👍

  • @michaelcliffordphotos
    @michaelcliffordphotos5 жыл бұрын

    These lenses are primarily aimed at portrait photography, but you didn't take any portraits. It's important to understand how the lenses resolve facial features, how they render bokeh, how well they establish separation between a foreground subject and the background at different apertures, etc. The color cast is a significant issue if you do portrait photography, because you don't want someone's skin to have a yellow cast to it (as with the Samyang lens), nor do you want to have to color correct every photo you take. Based on this review, I can not tell how these portrait lenses compare for portrait photography.

  • @Sebastian-dk8rj

    @Sebastian-dk8rj

    5 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree with you, it's more about rendition, in portraits we don't need super sharp or have "no vignette" ... it's all about rendition!!

  • @mikejameswhite

    @mikejameswhite

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's pretty easy to set up a color correction profile which you just apply to all shots taken with the lens. In any case, if you're shooting professional portraits it's highly unlikely that you won't be doing any color correction on images from a shoot, and you'd only need to correct one of these and then copy that across to the rest of the images (like one would do for pretty much any portrait shooting session). I agree on the other points, though I don't expect that the lenses would be wildly different here (based on the flower photo).

  • @Athiril

    @Athiril

    5 жыл бұрын

    Just set a custom white balance for it when shooting if you want it right in camera straight away. Colour should fine.

  • @TheWhyteBear

    @TheWhyteBear

    5 жыл бұрын

    Emanuele Farnesi how so? He doesn’t shy away from detailing the negatives of the samyang, but makes the fair point that sometimes you get diminishing returns by shelling out for high end lenses. For the price of that Sony lens you could get two or three cheaper but still high quality lenses. Sure those lenses may not be the ultimate best lenses in their focal length, but if they’re good enough for what you need to do then clearly it makes more sense to buy them over one very expensive lens. If you are one of the few photographers/cinematographers who will actually benefit from the more expensive lens, then it might be worth shelling out the extra cash. For the rest of us, probably not worth it.

  • @michaelcliffordphotos

    @michaelcliffordphotos

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@TheWhyteBear It's always the case that you pay more for a premium product. But that's not the issue here. There are lots of cheaper alternatives to Sony's lenses, with various trade-offs. The question is how do those trade-offs affect the people who use the lenses for the things they've been optimized for. An 85 1.4 is optimized for portraits. 85 puts you at the right distance to easily direct a model, while working in just enough background to fill the frame with the model's eye at the 2/3 vertical line. The 1.4 really only makes sense if you want to shoot in low light, or if you want significant subject / background separation. Otherwise, you're just adding size and weight to the lens. So this is a lens aimed at portrait shooters. Which is why tests of the lens really should reflect how it is used - in portrait shooting.

  • @grapefruitdream
    @grapefruitdream4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for doing these real world tests that are easy to understand and matter, I would never have thought to compare lens flare, but that's a huge issue. Amazing video

  • @blubravery
    @blubravery5 жыл бұрын

    Samyang came out with an autofocus lens??? New World we living in

  • @jakewerth9614
    @jakewerth96145 жыл бұрын

    The only time I have noticed a lens producing better color is with astrophotography. This was the difference between a Samyang and a Sigma Art, the Art brought out more color in the milky way. With that said the Samyang was just as sharp as the Sigma Art, Samyang/Rokinon are amazing for the price. Also some lenses produce more contrast and more contrast means more saturation.

  • @Mikri90
    @Mikri904 жыл бұрын

    I haven't tried out the 85/1.4 from Samyang but I did try the 35/1.4 on the a7III on several occasions (a friend has it) and the lens is built well, focuses amazingly and at all distances and f stops, and it's sharp at any f stop you choose. Can't really beat it for the price.

  • @VincentValentino
    @VincentValentino5 жыл бұрын

    Just started using Sony, with Rokinon lenses. Coming from 10 years with my old Canon DSLR. I do notice that better glass produces better colour separation, less muddy bleeds, etc... But again, I'm doing video, which isn't raw colour. Great video, thanks so much for doing this :)

  • @skesinis
    @skesinis5 жыл бұрын

    Nice video! The inconsistency you mentioned in the sharpness in the corners is probably because your camera was tilted slightly down and it wasn’t parallel to the wall. It shows on the video against the lines of the side wall when you had the camera on the tripod but it’s not really a lens issue since you did the same for both lenses. Where the focus stopped is down to the tolerances and by the output differences are negligible.

  • @MichaelRusso
    @MichaelRusso4 жыл бұрын

    I have that lens (manual version) for my Pentax and it diffidently has color correction issues. Other then that, the Samyang has good sharpness and contrast. I used it for B&W shots.

  • @Brian-jp3wt
    @Brian-jp3wt5 жыл бұрын

    Do tamron 17-28 2.8 vs Sony 16-35mm 2.8

  • @ab85main73

    @ab85main73

    5 жыл бұрын

    Just a Globe 😂

  • @dctt3511

    @dctt3511

    5 жыл бұрын

    tamaron

  • @davidbawden6567

    @davidbawden6567

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Al Castill I have both, and your right they are great lenses for the price and sharpness.

  • @elbanaag9355

    @elbanaag9355

    4 жыл бұрын

    the problem on 17-28 is the range. you bought wide lens to have widest as possible. and 28mm being the longest focal length is quite no good compared to 35mm. you bought 16-35 probably to have just 1 lens with you. you got 16wide and 35 tighter shot. that's nice range. if you do not need longer focal length, then maybe a prime lens would be better like 14mm samyang 2.8, or laowa 15mm f2.. :)

  • @Bloodshade

    @Bloodshade

    4 жыл бұрын

    Every. Single. Comparison. Comes out to have the same result. “The (third party) lens is 90% the same lens as the Sony but lacks (buttons/build quality/image quality issue at some end). Still, it costs 33%-50% of the Sony. If you absolutely need the best of the best because photography makes you $60,000/yr or more, buy the Sony. Otherwise, buy the (third party) and save the money for another lens or a photography trip/courses.” Every. Single. Comparison. .. Most differences are fixed in post in 10 seconds (WB/Lens Profile). if you’re here and you don’t make $60,000+ from photography, buy the third party zoom, the third party prime, or a cheaper Sony prime in your desired range.

  • @maxcha5473
    @maxcha54733 жыл бұрын

    You are just 👍! Very comprehensive review which covered every of my doubts thank you so much!

  • @stuffnuns
    @stuffnuns3 жыл бұрын

    I got the Samyang 24mm a few months ago for my A7ii, and I was impressed by look of the images, and the quiet focusing was a boon. This 85 looks like a bang for buck winner. The GM would be great, if I had more green to throw around.

  • @Champo0
    @Champo05 жыл бұрын

    oh wow, I never thought the color different lenses could produce would be that much different in camera. an interesting followup experiment would be to use a color-checker (the ones you take a photo of to do the whitebalance) and compare them after calibrating the color corrected shots.

  • @nathanksimpson
    @nathanksimpson4 жыл бұрын

    Not just videography but more cinematography is what that smooth ring is for. Creative and controlled filmmaking where you plan your aperture rack for effect.

  • @DiegoTerzano
    @DiegoTerzano5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the review. I own the Samyang 85mm (since release day) and used the GM several times. I am extremely happy with the Samyang. It is very sharp for normal portrait conditions (studio and outdoors). I don't care much about the lens flare resistant, on that focal length I am never shooting sunrises or sunsets (I care more on my 16-35 for landscapes). AF works very well on firmware version 4 and has improved significantly since its release on low light conditions. Samyang updates their firmware frequently so investing in their Lens Station is a good idea. I really like the way the lens renders, especially wide open. If you step it down to f/2.0 it is very sharp across the entire frame. I have no doubt I made the right choice with this lens. My other favorite 85mm is the Batis (it has Optical Image Stabilization) which is also quite expensive but a better value than the GM, imho.

  • @kenspo

    @kenspo

    5 жыл бұрын

    What he said ^^

  • @bobbydigitalmedia8426
    @bobbydigitalmedia84263 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Ive been looking for a new portrait lens. Think i figured out what i want to try!

  • @vijaychitte6921
    @vijaychitte69214 жыл бұрын

    I loved that radio static sound actually my view points it’s like when radio has no frequency reception kind of sound...

  • @shamgartruth1449
    @shamgartruth14494 жыл бұрын

    That was a great test! I learned a ton.

  • @reginaldworthington7558
    @reginaldworthington75584 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the informative comparison. One thing you didn’t mention which doesn’t matter for stills shooters but critical for motion picture capture is focus breathing. Did you happen to notice if the Samyang was breathing and if so, was it subtle or pronounced?

  • @marcm.bamberger3537
    @marcm.bamberger35375 жыл бұрын

    interesting comparison. I would have loved to see an eye-af comparison in a portrait shooting. Also waiting to see a comparison against the Sony 1.8/85 Keep up the good work!

  • @fritz9880
    @fritz98802 жыл бұрын

    Good video with good insights. I would suggest that when testing for sharpness, you photograph something with sharp edges to begin with, such as lettering. Brick wall comparisons with irregular edges and erose texture leave me cold.

  • @bigdemi
    @bigdemi5 жыл бұрын

    I think it's worth noting the 'Autofocus Lock' button on the Sony lens is programmable. I have mine set to eye autofocus. Can't understate how useful this is once you've tried it.

  • @BrianIrwin

    @BrianIrwin

    5 жыл бұрын

    I had come to say the same thing so thanks for that. also nice work on the sad-face as a username.

  • @jamesjackson4264

    @jamesjackson4264

    5 жыл бұрын

    That is what makes it great for users that don’t have the 3rd series of cameras.

  • @ahmadreza6818

    @ahmadreza6818

    5 жыл бұрын

    What body do you use ?

  • @bigdemi

    @bigdemi

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ahmadreza6818 A7R3

  • @ahmadreza6818

    @ahmadreza6818

    5 жыл бұрын

    0011101001011011 have you upgrade to latest firmware ?

  • @aibada6594
    @aibada65943 жыл бұрын

    Optics can capture different amount of different wavelengths so perceptive color can be different. This was probably more important with film cameras. Sony's advantage is its built in auto corrections (I think Sony only supports its own lenses - raw files might not be corrected) I would go with Samyang if I don't plan on using it for videos (wouldn't zoom lens be better for videos?)

  • @marcpettersson
    @marcpettersson5 жыл бұрын

    The aperture ring can be declicked on the Sony primes, however the aperture actuation is electronic and rasterized/quantized (just look at the movement of the blades while adjusting the declicked ring). So if you declick it to rack expose you will still get a noticeable stutter. You can't set the aperture to for example 4.7, you can only set it to 1/3 increments, just like you would from the camera.

  • @clintjohnson2460
    @clintjohnson24604 жыл бұрын

    I'm actually looking at the manual focus version of one of these lenses right now to use in video shooting... From what I have been able to find it's for the most part the exact same design and lens set up... Including the aperture contacts and the ability to confirm focus electronically..It just does not have the autofocus motor...just wondering if you realized while you were putting this together what a cool shot at 12:40.. that shallow depth-of-field but such a precise sharp focus on him...One of the reasons why I started looking at this lens seriously. Very nice review and I like how you use tons of illustration and make that effort rather than just sitting and talking at the camera. I think I agree with you a lot,, having shot with Nikon lenses and Sony , Rokinon and especially the Leica lenses on the micro four-thirds about the color issue.... All lens formulas are different based on what the manufacturer wants to create as an end product... And in the end it's always a compromise between performance and cost..I will say though that using the Leica prime lenses on a camera like the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema 4K vs many other micro 4/3 lenses... Or adapted Rokinon or Canon lenses... The Leica lenses do have a "pop".. especially in the area of contrast that other lenses don't display. In the end it's not necessarily better always...it's just a different characteristic of that lens line.

  • @eformance
    @eformance5 жыл бұрын

    Could you do a behind-the-scenes of what you're shooting video on? I think you were using the GH5 in the studio, is that still true for field work? Are you mostly just using footage with settings that make it good "in camera", or are you grading, etc? It would be nice to hear what you guys are doing and any tips or tricks you'd recommend for video.

  • @GeorgeOu
    @GeorgeOu4 жыл бұрын

    That seems like too much of a difference in focal length on the color test. Is the software cropping out the edges for lens correction?

  • @RedHatMedia
    @RedHatMedia5 жыл бұрын

    All of these features you said we'll probably never need (AF switch, shooting against the sun, shooting fast moving subjects, changing the aperture while shooting a video) I actually needed during the last couple of months. Keep in mind that not everyone's a youtuber who's mostly shooting with a tripod or simple handheld stuff.

  • @omyandsea

    @omyandsea

    3 жыл бұрын

    we can reduce flaring with help of a UV filter right??

  • @jarkkopukki143
    @jarkkopukki1435 жыл бұрын

    Love that Lee does not give a shit about micro-macro things. Stop buying expensive gear as an excuse not to create.

  • @NeonPixels81
    @NeonPixels812 жыл бұрын

    Very minor detail but I love the red ring on Samyang lenses, it really matches with the red ring of Sony full frame lenses, very elegant little touch. I have the Samyang 24mm 1.8 and it's been one of the best lenses I've ever owned, especially for video.

  • @devjeetjena9604

    @devjeetjena9604

    2 жыл бұрын

    Red ring is ❤️❤️🔥🔥

  • @SteveDeWaelephotography
    @SteveDeWaelephotography5 жыл бұрын

    Did you shut of de lenscorrections in de camera ???? for the native lens sony camera corrects these

  • @Mayanstudios
    @Mayanstudios5 жыл бұрын

    I would love to see the Samyang compared to the Sony 1.8, since their closer to the same budget!

  • @BenLovell80

    @BenLovell80

    5 жыл бұрын

    The 85 F1.8 is just as sharp but the bokeh is quite busy in places. The Samyang bokeh is much smoother and less distracting in portraits. Whether that is an issue for you is down to personal preference. I had the Samyang and the Sony 1.8 at the same time to compare them and returned the Sony.

  • @joshblank1

    @joshblank1

    5 жыл бұрын

    HoopDogg80 what about AF acquisition & tracking, and eye AF? Sony 1.8 or Samyang 1.4?

  • @BenLovell80

    @BenLovell80

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@joshblank1 both on a par with each other really especially given the shallower DOF at 1.4 vs 1.8. The Samyang snaps onto the eye and tracks it no problem. For posed portraits it's 9 times out of 10 hitting the pupil focus and not the eyelashes even. I have a 2 year old son and it'll track his eye when he's moving towards me in a pretty erratic way! If I'd noticed AF being better on the Sony I probably would have chosen it even given the worse bokeh but the Samyang AF for photography is excellent. Can't comment on video AF as I don't do much video.

  • @joshblank1

    @joshblank1

    5 жыл бұрын

    HoopDogg80 I have a 3 year old and eye AF and tracking is everything. I own the Sony but may sell it for the Samyang. 1.4 is tempting. What about color rendition? Someone said Sony was saturated and had more pop, while Samyang was muted

  • @NAM3L3555

    @NAM3L3555

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@BenLovell80 I think the same but for video af sony works better but for photo samyang it's better choice

  • @JB_Hobbies
    @JB_Hobbies5 жыл бұрын

    Every video I see about the Samyang makes me glad I bought it.

  • @RazVlogsOfficial

    @RazVlogsOfficial

    4 жыл бұрын

    How is the image quality

  • @JB_Hobbies

    @JB_Hobbies

    4 жыл бұрын

    Raz Vlogs it’s good. It’s my go-to lens for outdoor portraits.

  • @t1000se
    @t1000se2 жыл бұрын

    Amazing review, just subbed :) One question: can I use this Samyang lens with my Sony a6400 ? It's an e-mount camera. Or do I need an extra lens mount to convert it to E?

  • @BentleyPascoe
    @BentleyPascoe5 жыл бұрын

    Great comparison fellas, I'd love to see how the Sigma Art 85mm compares in this line up, its a little more than the Samyang, but much less than the Sony. My experience with Sigma on Sony so far has been pretty incredible, so I'd love to see it compare to these two 85s.

  • @osirisjackson5443
    @osirisjackson54434 жыл бұрын

    You taught me a lot specially as a rookie like myself. I'm thinking of getting a Sony a6600 or the Fuji xt4 or the Sony a7iii. Peace and love from East Harlem NYC...

  • @HatimJawad
    @HatimJawad5 жыл бұрын

    Sony was definitely better in video focus racking, it was smoothly pulling it off. Whereas in Samyang it pulled focus in stacks (look at the bokeh to get a clear idea).

  • @kabardink

    @kabardink

    3 жыл бұрын

    no! samyang is better at all

  • @wookster77
    @wookster775 жыл бұрын

    Look at the walking test and look at the greenery area to the right. The Sony's focus motors seems to be way smoother where as the Samyang motors seems to be adjusting in steps.

  • @billydonerson1581
    @billydonerson15815 жыл бұрын

    What about the adjustment in the samyang. Could you do a video on the port to adjust the lens?

  • @cyberbunny777
    @cyberbunny7774 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video with opinions clearly presented from different user's perspective. I am just watching lens reviews for fun, but this is by far the most comprehensive comparison video.

  • @PraveenKumar-fs6of
    @PraveenKumar-fs6of5 жыл бұрын

    Great work, keep it 🆙 . & Thanks 🙏.

  • @shang-hsienyang1284
    @shang-hsienyang12845 жыл бұрын

    The garden you're filming in is incredibly beautiful.

  • @chirag4

    @chirag4

    5 жыл бұрын

    TRU

  • @tonytober
    @tonytober4 жыл бұрын

    2:06 ... not a feature the reviewer's not personnally using, but makes that lens a Cinema-lens worthy. For that price, it's cheap for such a feature not many lenses have.

  • @TheRickAustin
    @TheRickAustin3 жыл бұрын

    Curious, would you mind sharing the brand / model of the chair used when sitting at your desk?

  • @SamHannYoga
    @SamHannYoga Жыл бұрын

    Great video brother! Thank you. 🙏🏽

  • @dawgyv72
    @dawgyv724 жыл бұрын

    Why was your aperture closed when doing the autofocus test on the Sony lens? Wouldnt that make a difference considering your lens was wide open during the samyang test?

  • @DennisMoncla
    @DennisMoncla5 жыл бұрын

    I have the Sony 85 1.8 and love it. The color rendition is almost identical to the 1.4. On a lot of shots I do like the cool colors they produce but 85 is primarily a portrait length and I do primarily shoot portraits with it. For that the warmer tones of the Samyang look great to me! It is just one more step in LR I don't have to take that I'm taking now to fix it.

  • @toddysurcharge771

    @toddysurcharge771

    Жыл бұрын

    The 85 1.8 sony has faster AF than the 1.4 that's why I got it

  • @KNAPPAID

    @KNAPPAID

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@toddysurcharge771yeah thats funny as well

  • @juantascon
    @juantascon5 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if the Samyang is using the latest firmware. They are notorious for updating the AF lenses overtime. Thank you for doing this.

  • @RogerOThornhill

    @RogerOThornhill

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm wondering about this too.

  • @c.augustin
    @c.augustin5 жыл бұрын

    Your test around 11:00 with the Sony lens wasn't correctly done: The aperture was visibly closed. I don't know if the A7 can open up the aperture for focusing even if set on the aperture ring (it did not move in the video). This way the camera gets less light, and the Sony lens would be at a disadvantage compared to the Samyang. But maybe we just can't see the aperture opening up …

  • @c.augustin

    @c.augustin

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@paulstickley4819 Really unusual.

  • @gazdyer2732
    @gazdyer27323 жыл бұрын

    Excellent review , thanks.

  • @GavinPhillips
    @GavinPhillips5 жыл бұрын

    When I heard the Sony lens I though that was my stomach lmao

  • @cris_stn
    @cris_stn4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this video dude !!! I am at a point right now where want to get a good portrait lens for my a7 iii and I had some mixed feelings on the samyang 85mm but after watching this video I know I won't make a mistake by buying it !!! Thank you for saving me a lot of money !!!

  • @minhvisual4265
    @minhvisual42655 жыл бұрын

    I alway change the autofocus lock button to super 35 mode, but you can change it to whatever you want.

  • @UCreations
    @UCreations5 жыл бұрын

    In the AF speed test, the aperture of the Sony lens was quite small, this blocks light to the AF-points. Don't know how much this makes a difference with daylight, but it could make a difference.

  • @FStoppers

    @FStoppers

    5 жыл бұрын

    UCreations can you explain? Most lenses open up to their widest aperture when autofocusing. I’ll have to watch it again but I thought Lee did the test wide open. -P

  • @UCreations

    @UCreations

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@FStoppers The aperture ring wasn't wide open. What also sometimes makes a difference is the "live view display effect" on or off.

  • @dannisvanderheiden
    @dannisvanderheiden4 жыл бұрын

    I have purshed the Samyang for on my Nikon D750 and am very happy with it. Thanks for your review!

  • @Windows10kids
    @Windows10kids4 жыл бұрын

    hey, what's the tripod were you using in for taking photos in the video?

  • @yashazare
    @yashazare3 жыл бұрын

    Amazing review. So clear and detailed.

  • @robertmyers4390
    @robertmyers43904 жыл бұрын

    An excellent and very fair review,,, well done mate 🎯

  • @nikrotas
    @nikrotas5 жыл бұрын

    The contrast thing with backlit situations actually makes a pretty big difference even when not shooting directly into the sun, any backlit subject will suffer a loss of contrast that is next to impossible to correct in post. Try it with sunset backlit portraits. Thats imho the biggest reason to go for the more expensive lenses and it can really ruin shots. The focusing might change if you shot at lower than f8 XD

  • @notgazo7009
    @notgazo70095 жыл бұрын

    Autofocus sound may vary from copy to copy. For example my Canon 24-70 II is a bit noisy compared to some other copies... But autofocus performance is great for stills so...

  • @AsianWithHat
    @AsianWithHat5 жыл бұрын

    If you're gonna do an autofocus test, why not record through the Atamos Ninja to show what you're seeing for focus?

  • @Miracle_chiedoze
    @Miracle_chiedoze3 жыл бұрын

    Nice, does the both have OIS For stabilisation

  • @AllenFreemanMediaGuru
    @AllenFreemanMediaGuru5 жыл бұрын

    I love my Sony G Master 90 1.4, but its definitely my slowest focusing lens. And loudest. I think its mainly because its one of the oldest G Master lenses that came out?) And I have most of the Sony FE lenses. (Briefly before I returned it, I had the 50 1.8 which was the loudest and slowest focusing FE lens)

  • @AtlantaTerry
    @AtlantaTerry4 жыл бұрын

    On the subject of shooting directly into the sun, I wish you had created some low light tests where you were shooting into street lights, birthday candles, wedding candles, etc. That is something a videographer might be more likely to do. If you do those tests at some point, you might want to try some wide open (typical in a low light situation) and try some stopped down 1 or 2 f/stops. Thank you. Terry Thomas... the photographer Atlanta, Georgia USA

  • @mathmatters6984
    @mathmatters69845 жыл бұрын

    How about the autofocus in lowlight..

  • @vigneshgowda4348
    @vigneshgowda43485 жыл бұрын

    How can we see the original photos you've clicked by those tow lenses? Please provide us plzzz

  • @AkhilsaiNo1
    @AkhilsaiNo14 жыл бұрын

    I totally agree with you on that "color" thing.

  • @georgb.920
    @georgb.9205 жыл бұрын

    Was the focussing test done during videography with Eyes AF? Maybe both lenses work better under normal test conditions in the eye AF mode and error free?

  • @ChristopherKretz
    @ChristopherKretz4 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely great video. Thank you for this.

  • @FrankieTheOne
    @FrankieTheOne3 жыл бұрын

    What tripod did u use? Love the vid btw

  • @anon82037
    @anon820374 жыл бұрын

    Great honest video. I have the samyang 85 which recently replaced the sony 1.8. It is really amazing. I like the warmer image and dont need to adjust wb in post. Bokeh looks amazing and central sharpness is really the most important and its great even at 1.4. I also have the samayng 35 1.4 and am very impressed.

  • @hendrairawan3573
    @hendrairawan35735 жыл бұрын

    Hi Morris, please do the same thing with their 35mm f1.4, Sony vs Samyang...! I really² need to complete compare of these two..thanks in advance.🙏

  • @theyasman

    @theyasman

    4 жыл бұрын

    I owned both, sold off my Sony. The Samyang is definitely amazing!!!

  • @adamabele785
    @adamabele7854 жыл бұрын

    I do architecture photography and sometimes landscape and it quite often happens that you need to shoot against the direction of the sun with wide-angle lenses. Flares and sun stars do play a role in these cases. You can not simply turn around the building to get the building with the light source from a different direction, neighboring buildings or a narrow street limit your possible shooting angles, and it is not always possible to lure around for hours just to wait till the sun has moved on. However 85mm is not a wide-angle lens, but you might need to shoot against light sources in event photography. As for the colors: I have the feeling that some cheaper lenses filter out some blue light, while for example, Zeiss lenses tend to almost exaggerate blue colors. Almost all the Samyang lenses ad little orange/yellow/red to the picture, that is the contrast color of blue. They might do it unintentionally or to reduce chromatic aberration, or because the can not do better coating, don´t know. But when you switch between these brands all the time you see immediately even in the thumbnails which lens took which foto. The difference between different brands and lenses of similar focal length and f stops is in most standard cases not very obvious, but you´ll get more difference the more you go to the extremes: very low light, very bright light, stray light, backlight, high contrasts, extreme colors, fluorescent lights, monochromatic light, then you might see the differences popping out more. And to be honest, sometimes it is the extremes that make a picture either a case for the trashcan or for popping out photos.

  • @JosephHHHo
    @JosephHHHo4 жыл бұрын

    What do you mean when you say one lens might be more adversely affected by diffraction than the other while operating at the same F#?

  • @santilozus5370
    @santilozus53705 жыл бұрын

    Can you test focus breathing? It usually is the Achilles heel of cheaper but still decent lenses when compared to the top of the line OEM ones. It seems the Sony has a better T number (better transmitancy).

  • @joshuadtaft
    @joshuadtaft4 жыл бұрын

    I've watched videos from astrophotographers who have used a number of camera lenses for wide field AP, and there's a bit of a consensus that the Samyang and Rokinon lenses tend to have a bit of a green color cast

  • @archimedespalimpsest1697
    @archimedespalimpsest16974 жыл бұрын

    15:00 about different factors that do affect continuous auto-focus performance. It would be really nice to try to play with some of these factors. Different contrast, different overall lighting conditions, dusk, dimly lit scenes (say, when you need ISO 3200 to keep shooting at exposure 1/60 s). How do these lenses compare say at 2.8 instead of f1.4? What lenses keep focus better at the moving subject -- zoom lenses in particular, say, how good is Tamron 28-75 at f2.8? Looking for some good lens to use this way in dimly lit space -- in circus, with artists moving fast across substantial distance range, like from ~4m to ~20m away.

  • @bazza1041
    @bazza10415 жыл бұрын

    pity you didn't do a panning auto focus in video mode. that would have been an interesting test

  • @willprice7475
    @willprice74755 жыл бұрын

    About the noise with the Sony focusing, my Panasonic Lumix G X Vario 35-100mm makes the exact same sound. I always thought it was weird, but at least mine isn't not the only one doing it😂

  • @Wychfyre_
    @Wychfyre_5 жыл бұрын

    Quality video! good work

  • @34Media
    @34Media4 жыл бұрын

    Great vid and i concur for the price difference be very hard pressed to pick the Sony over the Samsung great to see smaller companies making quality gear

  • @RogerOThornhill
    @RogerOThornhill5 жыл бұрын

    Does anyone know if this review was using the latest firmware update for the Samyang? It apparently has made big strides in AF.

  • @vanjamodrinjak911
    @vanjamodrinjak9114 жыл бұрын

    Good video!!! You help me to choose a better lens for much smaller money.

  • @kadoc1979
    @kadoc19795 жыл бұрын

    Great review 👍

  • @troberts2009
    @troberts20099 ай бұрын

    coming back into photography and recovering after covid bankrupting my business im switching from canon to sony and getting a a7 ii and the rokinon 85 1.4 excited to start watching your content again

  • @smileinurhand
    @smileinurhand5 жыл бұрын

    Good Job Bro .If you do Samyang 85mm f/1.8 vs Nikon 85 f/1.8 will be more helpful

  • @officialcisko
    @officialcisko5 жыл бұрын

    For video the Sony looks like it's the better lens. For now I'll just stick with the Tamron 28-75mm

  • @richardpcrowe
    @richardpcrowe5 жыл бұрын

    I would think that a better comparison (price wise anyway) might be between the Samyang f/1.4 and the Sony 85mm f/1.8... I like the focus lock on the Sony lens which I reprogram to Eye-AF...

  • @JB_Hobbies

    @JB_Hobbies

    5 жыл бұрын

    Richard Crowe There are already a few detailed comparisons between the Samyang 1.4 and the Sony 1.8. This comparison was more interesting because when you set aside price, the Samyang 1.4 and the Sony GM are more similar based on application than the Sony 1.8. You buy a 1.4 lens because you want 1.4 1st and everything else second.

  • @JIYkp
    @JIYkp5 жыл бұрын

    You can use an external monitor/recorder to test autofocus speed.

  • @holyfool3012
    @holyfool30125 жыл бұрын

    Can you use this kendr for canon M50 with canon adapter

  • @SkateEverythingProject
    @SkateEverythingProject5 жыл бұрын

    Killer video thanks!

  • @woodybenjam
    @woodybenjam5 жыл бұрын

    I would love that camera and lens!

  • @michaeldande
    @michaeldande4 жыл бұрын

    Good but why do u have 2 mics . Please explain

  • @felipearmandoryan
    @felipearmandoryan4 жыл бұрын

    I don't think the Samyang lens is "wider". It's just not being corrected automatically for distortion by the Sony Camera RAW app.

  • @huiedinwiddie7294
    @huiedinwiddie72945 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the test. Very helpful. However, what I did notice was that the image quality in the Sony when 1st focusing on your assistant before he started walking toward the camera, was really nice/good saturation and clarity. Worth $1,000+ more? Not to me, unless...unless you want that truly amazing clarity/contrast that I saw just now, then...I guess, dish-out that extra $$. Just my thoughts!! Thanks again for posting.

  • @MarloweHolt
    @MarloweHolt5 жыл бұрын

    Anyone notice that during the autofocus test the iris of the sony stayed the same size, and the samyang 11:40 opened larger when the button was pressed? Different modes?

  • @maxipadthai
    @maxipadthai4 жыл бұрын

    My Sony 24-105 makes the same noise in AF-S mode, but the sound is only noticeable in a very quiet room.

  • @NYCSputnik
    @NYCSputnik4 жыл бұрын

    What is that tripod? TY

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