It looks much less like you're underwater in the Sonic Gems Collection version.

@xpdev0

7 жыл бұрын

gems is the old pc version from 1996

@theobserver4214

6 жыл бұрын

Windows XP PC version still has green water though

@sirrh9812

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s a port of the 1996 pc version, however, the water was fine in the original pc version. The water problem was an error when they ported it to the gems collection

@theobserver4214

6 жыл бұрын

SirRH lmao the Gems collection version of Sonic CD is trash. So many errors, why couldn't they just have emulated the SEGACD version and not the PC one

@robertanderson9447

6 жыл бұрын

Blank Blank Finally someone says it. I can't stand the Gems version.

"Staff Credits sequence omitted" in Sonic Gems Collection. That seems fair...

@Chillius

10 жыл бұрын

WHO DEVELOP THIS GAEM?

The first version of the game I played was the PC port - which if I recall correctly is where the cutscenes used in all other versions of the games came from. Because of that, I never know how choppy the Sega CD Cutscenes looked. Tidal Tempest's water color was a new change for Gems Collection (still green in the PC version)

@theobserver4214

7 жыл бұрын

KuroKomix it was emulation bugs, don't know why they couldn't have just emulated the SEGACD version

@FloppyDisk893

6 жыл бұрын

It has faster loading times though!

@theobserver4214

6 жыл бұрын

KuroKomix The SEGAPC one was the SEGACD cutscenes but enhanced for 256 colors and a little less choppy. By Gems the Enhanced Sonic CD cutscenes were presented. They're still used for Steam's version

@ralphjeremy6590

5 жыл бұрын

@@theobserver4214 due to complications, they could'nt emulate the original SCD version.

@EnergyBurst2

5 жыл бұрын

Same, i still remember having that yellow cd sitting on the ledge in my family room as a kid, i could never get very far in the game so i remember it more for the cd then the actual game funny enough.

The old staple of "get all the chaos emeralds" (or time stones, in Sonic CD's case) works, too. Getting all seven will automatically grant a Good Future in every level in the game, regardless of destroying robot generators in the past.

@gameomer1855

2 жыл бұрын

What was that intro song in this video

@imperiomongacity4220

Жыл бұрын

Sonic boom

No, this doesn't count the Steam version. I might update this video at some point in the future to include the Steam version now that I have it.

@theobserver4214

6 жыл бұрын

BlazeHedgehog where's that update mate

@nyandwielijah

3 жыл бұрын

Where is the update link it’s been 7 years

@BlazeHedgehog

3 жыл бұрын

@@nyandwielijah I said "might." I never said that I would. "Might" means I'm undecided, and I haven't come up with a good reason to make the video. But that's also not a no. It's a maybe.

@nyandwielijah

3 жыл бұрын

@@BlazeHedgehog oh ok

Back when Sega released good stuff. Good times

@Fortenium How is the special stage in the new version any different from the GameCube Gems version? I'm not calling you out, I'm legitimately curious. I still don't know whether or not I should pick this new one up yet.

Can you please make a comparison video where you compare the Gems Collection version to the Steam version?

I can't give you the URL, but the name of the song is "Brand New World" from the Sonic Remix album.

@MapleAwesome12 They were in Sonic Jam because that's the first time those videos could be seen in full color at full framerate. Sonic CD was slated to be in Mega Collection (menu data for it has been discovered), but I guess they couldn't get it ready in time for release.

The one from the Gems Collection is just the Windows 95 version.

@hexon8013

6 жыл бұрын

What •_•

@lucamihailmurafa

5 жыл бұрын

@@hexon8013 Yup, he's not wrong. The Gems Collection version is based on the 1996 PC Port of Sonic CD, wich has a few minor graphical downgrades compared to the original, but the Gems Collection version even more so. The 1996 Windows 95 Port of this game is the same (or better) than The 2005 GameCube Port (on the Gems Collection). I know... mind blowing...

@emcitement It's up to you to decide. Personally, I think the missing graphics effects, the worse sound quality, and the missing credits sequence makes the Gems version inferior.

@megaheroes3611

3 жыл бұрын

Yep... Apparently Sonic fans rather play versions of games that look worst, have internet blocked out features and dark and depressing looking versions of SA1 and SA2 because Sonic fans love to complain about the smallest changes.

@EkajTheSwordsman Did you pay attention to any of the text in the video at all?

@BlazeHedgehog can u get the gems fmv quality for the pc version any which way

@BlazeHedgehog What was that song in your intro?

Can you give me an URL of that song? 0:00-0:08 Where have you found him?

Does the PC version also count as the steam version? Might sound like a stupid question, but I was just wondering cause the video scenes on my steam version are not laggy.

@theobserver4214

6 жыл бұрын

Underdog_3.7S550 This comparison uses the original 1996 PC version.

@CCrockyourass I labeled what parts were from the PC version and what parts were from the Sega CD version.

@Beeqman The PC version was more or less identical to the Sega CD original. It had the same low sound quality issues, but it also had the correct (high color) credits sequence, which Gems doesn't. Besides that, there was no difference that I am aware of.

Also, a lot of the backgrounds in the Gems version are messed up.

Love the clean water and sound effects of the Gems version. How were the sound effects in the two Windows versions?

Was the sonic CD CD (for the PC) any different than the port for the gems collection? @BlazeHedgehog

I've always lol'd at the explosion effect of Robotnik's ship. Also in that scene, the engine looks taped on.

I got the 2011 PS3 release.

@devantewarner9288

6 жыл бұрын

Will M As for me on XBOX 360 so PS360 versions are better

I've only played Sonic CD on the Sega CD, which I still own both, and I'm glad to be able to see the animations from the game in a crisper smother form in the Collection. I always loved the animations they did in the original game but the upgrade in quality does it great justice. Thanks for vid upload!!!

How can you tell if you dont press the buttons at the same time

What was the song at the beginning?

Whats the name of the song inc the intro?

So... Where and what did the collection version come from? It has *lots* of differences that make this version seem to be a remake/remaster of the game.

@theobserver4214

6 жыл бұрын

KewlZonic The collection version is a very broken port of the already inferior PC version (1996, not the superior to both versions Steam edition).

Gems Collection version is based off of and almost identical to the PC version not the Sega CD one. The PC version released in '96, and a home console like the Sega CD was a much more powerful system for gaming than the PC.

@sirrh9812

8 жыл бұрын

Sega CD more powerful than a 1996 PC? You are on drugs right?

@logan68k3

8 жыл бұрын

+RHCommandos I'm personally a fan of the SEGA CD, but the fact is undeniable. You can't even use the different architectures to make an argument. CPU speeds were doubling almost every year. Even the 486 could mop the floor with the SEGA CD, it's just too old. That's like saying the XBOX One could outperform a Titan X. The XBOX is great, but it just isn't possible.

@sirrh9812

8 жыл бұрын

Blast Processing That's my point, the OP thinks the sega cd was more powerful than PC's not me :D

@beatmania3rdmix

7 жыл бұрын

RHGames Okay. "More powerful" was a bad choice of words. I meant that PC ports of many console games at that time were scaled down due to funky things the console's hardware could do that would have been hard to replicate in software. Sonic CD would have been a challenging game to accurately port at the time. Not only does it use both the Sega CD's hardware (graphics, CPU and generated PCM sound), it uses the original Genesis' hardware (some graphics and some FM sound). The Sega CD could alternate between its own hardware and the Genesis hardware. For example, Sega CD could read CD audio off of the game disc for music, all the while still using its onboard PCM or the Genesis' FM sound to generate sound effects. Things like these posed issues for porting a game like this back then. The PC port of Sonic CD is noticeably lackluster and inaccurate. The water in Tidal Tempest is incorrect. Redbook audio has trouble looping. PCM like sound effects and past stage music play at a sample rate of 22.5 k (as they cannot be generated by a sound chip like they were on the Sega CD). I was trying to say that the PC port is weaker. GC uses the PC port rather than the SCD original with some textures cleaned up. But the wrong water is still there, and the bad quality audio is still there.

@drifter402

6 жыл бұрын

Is this PC port related to the steam version in any way?

Could anyone help with this? I bought sonic gems collection for my ps2, but i noticed that sonic cd only plays the cutscenes when i've left it at the title screen. It doesn't seem to have any triggers to set them off (I haven't been playing the game and have one interrupt my gameplay during or between levels).

@BlazeHedgehog

9 жыл бұрын

That's how old games used to be.

@masonwhite3698

8 жыл бұрын

+Lord Mugfish (Wyvern20) I think you can unlock the cutscenes by getting fast enough times on the time trials ingame, but that could only be the Xbox/PS3 ports. I don't recall.

@theobserver4214

6 жыл бұрын

Mason White The remake shows the cutscenes when you start a new game unless you are tails for some reason

@theobserver4214

6 жыл бұрын

BlazeHedgehog Many old games at least. A few PC games started out with FMVs

What is the song at beginning????

@BlazeHedgehog it looked weird seeing 2 robots in that position. what did you think it was when you first saw it

What song is used in the intro?

What confuses me about the water palettes is, for some reason, I recall the water in the "Past" edition of the level was kept in the Gems Collection port... yet the green color in the "Present" edition wasn't.

What's that song playing in the beginning of your video??!

@BlazeHedgehog

9 жыл бұрын

ManualDanual I guess the comment got buried, but it's this: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dndt2dapk7nTY7A.html

@ManualDanual

9 жыл бұрын

BlazeHedgehog Oh I found it down there a little later on but thanks! That song just rocks! So that's where that radical instrumental from Sonic CD HD level select bgm is from!

@IamRobtastic

8 жыл бұрын

why that's Sonic boom

I remember having seen 10 seconds or so of this Japanese Intro. That definitely got me into game/manganime art.

The Gems Collection version is the only version I ever played - I still have the GameCube disk!

@material___

6 жыл бұрын

Yan93 youre a very lucky person

@lucamihailmurafa

5 жыл бұрын

You can download the mobile port: for free! It's better in ANY SINGLE way. (though it is filled with ads, but you can disable them by paying the moneh)

Cual es la cancion que aparece al inicio del video?

@OfficialCyaned

9 жыл бұрын

Sonic Remix - "Brand New World"

Title screen: In Sonic Gems, Sonic is a little wider. Intro: Extended scenes must be added, due to slow framerate in Sega CD. And the quality is better. Timer: When doing speedruns on Sega CD, time is "faster", so those records from Sega CD are almost unable to beat on Sonic Gems Collection. Underwater: Everything is more green than normally. Special Stage: Timer again and speed is slow on Sega CD.

@RWL2012

7 жыл бұрын

The green water effect is normal not the other way round

@SonicPAJ It's not harsh. Sonic CD on Gems Collection is literally the least faithful version of the game, for reasons I detail in this video.

i always thought the gems collection sound quality sounded a bit muted and lower pitched.

What is the CPU, GB/MB's of RAM, and GPU of the PC?

well nows theres an HD remake for Xbox and PS3 now, thinking about making another Comparison?

@EkajTheSwordsman That's because the PC version is visually identical to the Sega CD version. The only things in the PC version that aren't identical to the Sega CD version is the sound effect quality and the FMV quality. It was more worth it to compare the gulf in quality between Gems and Sega CD for the most part, and that was the intent of this video. I would have completely ignored the PC version entirely but I discovered I did not have a "Clear Game" save for the Sega CD emulator.

@aperturius lol i always thought that as well it just comes across so loud and really is distracting from the stage music ect its like OH NO I GOTTA JUMP *really loud jump noise* lol

@bobsauce100 S&K Collection has trouble running on newer PCs, and technically so does the old port of Sonic CD. There's a new version of Sonic CD that should be hitting an online PC marketplace called Steam within the next few months, and you can pick up all the Genesis Sonics there, too.

@BlazeHedgehog Yeah. Not only that, but also not needing to make the screen so much smaller like the Sega CD did.

@ZacJackleReala "Brand New World" from the Japanese Sonic CD Remix album

ugh. Good thing I imported the Japanese Sonic Gems Collection. I do love me some toot toot warrior...

@BlazeHedgehog No, the good ending does not have Robotnik in it because you collected all of the timestones. Also, Little Planet flashes an image of Sonic's head and EXPLODES, the debris lands on the ground and makes flowers appear.

I'm puzzled. In the original Sega/Mega CD version, Tidal Tempest's Present water palette is green. In the 1996 PC version, it's the same. In the Gems Collection, it's clear (due to a graphical rendering error). In the 2011 remake for PC, PS3 and Xbox 360, it's green again (well I'm assuming for the console ports cuz I use Steam). *BUT* in the mobile version of the remake, it's clear again. *WAT*

@mattedg8095

5 жыл бұрын

Yea I went through it again. It isn't darker per se, but it is *slightly* green. I like it like that more though.

@STOPNSWOPguy Also there are features in those games that's not in the sega cd version. The Ability to unlock Tails and play as him is one of them.

A few of the old educational PC games we used to play did the same, it's a fab feature :D

@F2L4Life Yeah I realized that later, after I had posted it and I actually hit KZread's "cancel" button. The post disappeared on my screen and I figured it was deleted.

I wonder how whomever made the animated cutscenes managed to get them to play at 30fps instead of 24fps, especially since they were cel animated.

6:45 *INSERT BRAZZERS LOGO*

so which one is better

The visual quality for the menu and intro is so much better in the Gems version.

@BlazeHedgehog

10 жыл бұрын

Missing effects is "better"? There's a lot more to this game than just the FMV intro.

@AmaroqStarwind

10 жыл бұрын

BlazeHedgehog I said the intro and the menu. The rest of the game looks like crap in the Gems verison.

cutscenes are better on the gems (obviously) but the overall color palette and the sounds are definitely better on the genesis CD

@sweetpataterz8738

5 жыл бұрын

Christian Zoni “Genesis CD”

I like the Sega CD version better because of the way the ending was made compared to the Sonic Gems Collection.

@Darkspines22 Because "Sonic Boom" (for the American version) is a longer song than "Cosmic Eternity" (for the Japanese version). Rather than fade the music out, they stretched the video out to last for the entire duration of the song.

Wow, the parallax scrolls at a dramatically different speed in tidal tempest.

Ah ok thanks, that makes me feel better. I guess I'll actually play the game later on when I get the chance to. Kind of busy at the moment.

I grew up the Gems Collection version.

Is the Sonic CD hidden message on the Sonic Gems Collection?

Oddly enough despite the high speed I'm generally more successful at the Gems Collections Special Stages. Same is true of Sonic 2 on my overclocked Genesis as opposed to my stock one. Something about high speed special stages just really clicks with me when it comes to the classic Sonic games I guess.

@theobserver4214

6 жыл бұрын

NiGHTSnoob The input is less delayed due to a higher framerate, as special stages run at 30fps/60fps on Gems compared to the 15/20fps of the original SEGACD version. Gems is faster, but the PC version just has a smooth special stage at the normal speed.

nice to see the full version of the animations again, the old game had to sacrafice the quality etc.

Wow, so since the special stages for Sonic CD on the Gems collection runs at a faster than normal speed....that means I was technically playing on Hard mode O.o

"Brand New World", from the "Sonic Remix" album.

as the song is called the start of the video?

@OfficialCyaned

9 жыл бұрын

Sonic Remix - "Brand New World"

@pandasingle7791

9 жыл бұрын

SarahandAshley Thanks

I'm really glad they've done the real ending credits justice this time for the re-release on PSN last year. Good Show, Sega and Taxman. ^_^

Found the time and after a few restarts and lots of concentration I beat Sonic CD with all Time Stones and got the best ending. Thanks for letting me know that information about Time Stones! ^^

I think with the release of the PSN/Xbox live port of this game all of these are outdated. They were good and all but they didn't fix the collision detection at all from the original until the newest version. They also added new stuff like Tails and a spin dash that works (Not that I'm complaining. CD was in developement longer than Sonic 2 I assume) and they also gave the option to switch between JP/EU and USA soundtracks which was awsome.

In the gems collection (gamecube) are using the windows 95 version of the game

How does it compare to the mobile version?

@BlazeHedgehog

10 жыл бұрын

That version is the same as the one on Xbox Live Arcade/PSN, so the review more or less applies to that one... the only determining factor there is how much you enjoy touch screen controls.

Why the title screen is different in the PC Version?

@spikedubs760

8 жыл бұрын

+SeepMan Productions I mean the 1996 PC Version, the one that was used in Sonic Gems Collection, that version is not a remake, is a port.

@ActRuNeo

7 жыл бұрын

+SpikeDubs You're asking what's the difference?

@spikedubs760

7 жыл бұрын

No, i was asking why in the Sonic Gems Collection and 1996 PC version of the games, the title screen has sonic shaped differently

@ActRuNeo

7 жыл бұрын

SpikeDubs Converting?

@isosk1229

6 жыл бұрын

Still not a port. They did actually completly rebuild it

In Sonic Mega Collection for Gamecube, it uses the Sonic Jam Sonic CD ending speed.

what's with sonic's eyes on the gems collection?

"Brand New World" from the "Sonic Remix" album.

Preferred the eu version soundtrack but now it's on Xbox 360 you can choose.

@Qualske

7 жыл бұрын

I love both I can't decide which is better

@luginess0

2 жыл бұрын

@@Qualske I love both too, but I prefer the JP/EU soundtrack.

you guys noticed the eyes of sonic in gems collecion on the title screen? 0:v?

@jakighcolburnchannel3584

5 жыл бұрын

Gael yeah his eyes on the sega cd looks like he’s actually looking at the player while the gems collection looks like he isn’t looking directly at the player

I prefer the way the water is all washed out and darker than the background in the Sega CD version, it helps you distinguish it more readily from the non-water parts of the levels, so you don't fall in without realizing there's water there.

i remember seeing some weird version someone made of the sonic cd intro where sonic was colored red when i was little...anyone else remember this?

"Brand New World" from the Sonic the Hedgehog Remix album in 1994.

The music quality isn't what's at question in that bit, it's the sound effect quality. The sound effects in Gems Collection have a noticeable crackling to them, while the sound effects in the original Sega CD version doesn't have that, though it does have channel overwriting.

Sonic Jam really should've sped it up until the part where he through the rock at Eggbotnik. Everything after that in the other versions seems good, while Jam just sorta rushes through it.

I think that the Gems Collection version is based on the PC version from 1996.

@theobserver4214

6 жыл бұрын

Gallon it is, but it's a lot more broken

@Neilousluda Are you saying that on another game franchise, incorrectly porting a game so that it is missing features, has worse sound quality, and completely omits the names of the people who created it would be an acceptable practice to you?

Also, the ending I saw didn't have robotnik flying off with a time stone.

Why'd they slow down the cutscenes?

Why did the Gems Collection sound effects get butchered?

@BlazeHedgehog

8 жыл бұрын

+DariusKing13 The Sega CD version of Sonic CD uses an FM Synthesizer for its sound effects. When Sonic CD was ported to the Personal Computer, there was no guarantee that a PC would have an FM Synthesizer capable of accurately reproducing the sound effects, so instead, they recorded the FM Synthesized sound effects as digital audio WAV files. But, since PCs of that era didn't have much in the way of memory or HDD space, these WAV files had to be compressed, reducing their quality. That PC version of Sonic CD then served as a basis for what was included in Sonic Gems Collection.

@casualvanilla

8 жыл бұрын

+BlazeHedgehog Thanks for the info. Because it always seemed weird to me when the sound effects were louder yet lower quality.

@N0rlight

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you, it does understand why when I play the gem collection version feels like I'm playing the Pc Version.

@90sNath

7 жыл бұрын

its the freakin pc verison! and they put pc on the same side as sega cd that just makes it pointless.

@theobserver4214

6 жыл бұрын

BlazeHedgehog If only they had a High quality install option like some PC games with .wav files.

@localhbci Especially considering they did a remarkably poor job of resampling the framerate to make it stretch for time, so you end up with this wonderful high-res animation that's running at like, lower than half speed, probably.

Yea, I prefer the game on its original hardware. Fortunately I have the game and the Sega CD. And I love it to this day

0:31 Look closely in the Sonic Gems Collection that his first eye is smaller than Sega CD o_o

knew that. but oddly enough, I REALLY didn't know about the spindash... well, "the more you learn" as they say. :)

The intro is different in the sega cd versión why?

I wouldn't say Sonic Jam's FMV has the correct speed,,, things seem way too faster there; in common anime/cartoons the overall speed never goes that fast. Perhaps they already knew of how slow the SegaCD reader is, so they tried to do the FMVs with such limitation into account?

@nintendo1889x

10 жыл бұрын

Because it was remastered. The Sega CD FMV was pretty bad.

@theobserver4214

6 жыл бұрын

HCKTROX It would have been neat if Sonic Jam had a second disc for Sonic CD, as the Saturn definitely had enough power to run Sonic CD

Oh my god, the final video over 1000 different conversions, and is hard to determine which is the original.

so what differences do you guys see?