Grab a GN Modmat or Mouse Mat here: store.gamersnexus.net/ We reviewed a disappointing Dell GPU here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/enqVrLyqYZbaops.html Dell made a good PSU, though, and you can find our review of it here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pGucsM-umd2zcps.html And it made one of the worst pre-builts we've ever seen, the G5 5000: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZniByZihhdjKeKg.html And Lenovo gave Dell competition for bottom of the pre-built barrel, which you can see here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hZOWktCdnpjVeco.html

@susandefelice5509

3 жыл бұрын

You gotta at least tell us what kind of cookie it is

@FaceyDuck

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Steve, since you have given many CPUs the title of "Waste Of Sand", maybe you can call Dell "Waste Of E-waste"!

@sketchtherapy1218

3 жыл бұрын

Tech Jesus" Soul > Cookies

@PurpleLEANKrabs

3 жыл бұрын

Tease at the beginning lol

@yourhandlehere1

3 жыл бұрын

Tell me tell me...did a better power supply help my 3080 run better? PNY XLR8 Revel Epic-X (1440-1710) Originally with a TT "tough" 750w gold. It topped at 1995MHz. It was stable at 2200 with Afterburner but I don't do that often. Had it for a few months, never saw it go higher on it's own. Recently got the newest Corsair RM1000x. Beefier cables come with it. I wanted my draw to stay nearer the 50% area. Then I noticed my card was running at 2050MHz and I had to check and make sure I hadn't left Afterburner boosting it. Nope. I've seen it hit 2100 now "out of the box".

A Dell product paradoxically worthy of the "It's Better Than Dell" award.

@vollkerball1

3 жыл бұрын

absolute savage!

@TheJayRoth

3 жыл бұрын

I was going to say that 😥

@Castaa

3 жыл бұрын

Like they haven't done enough. Leave it to Dell to break the space-time continuum.

@whatdafarkenhell7110

3 жыл бұрын

Dell have always been hit or miss, I bought a second hand optiplex and it is still running strong, except the graphics of the intel chip died so i threw a placeholder card I bought the first week the AMD1600 came out at it and it has been happy since. Who knew the stupid little bracket in my AMD Radion9000 series box was to fit it into an optiplex SFF, winning by accident.

@jasonvandyke5401

3 жыл бұрын

Makes sense though. This product itself is better than the company that produces it :)

I spent 10 days, took 7 videos, and 25 pictures, trying to convince them that the green line across the top of my screen wasn't just the Windows background. They had me retake the picture of the serial number, because it was at an angle, even though that meant taking the monitor off the stand. Meanwhile with Corsair I accidentally caught my wireless dongle with my knee, emailed them asking where I could BUY a new one, and they sent me one, DHL overnight from Taiwan, for free. Dell is the worst company on the planet.

@GamersNexus

3 жыл бұрын

I can see why you'd feel that way after that experience. That's insane. Sounds really painful.

@theexplosionist2019

3 жыл бұрын

Worst company on the planet because they didn't do exactly what you wanted? EA are the worst company in the world.

@Zosu22

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah their service representatives can be pretty... persistent. I can't speak to their consumer product support, but I've had an overall neutral-good experience with their support for their business machines though.

@NoName-to5xl

3 жыл бұрын

Any mobile network is the worse.

@guyfawkes8873

3 жыл бұрын

@@theexplosionist2019 m8 he had a defective monitor and they tried to make him give up on getting it warrantied by frustrating him into submission. That's fairly shitty right there. So why Are you siding with Dell on that?

"ITS BETTER THAN DELL...S OTHER PRODUCTS AWARD" - Steve, probably.

@ncxo1975

2 жыл бұрын

Here you seem lonely, have my reply

"better than expected" What Steve expected from Dell: "a rebadged RTX 3070 with a plastic heatsink"

@aleksazunjic9672

3 жыл бұрын

Actually it is all BS. Dell's 1660 Super was of average build quality, and so is this 3090. Only thing happening is that GN does not know how to measure memory temperature. That is why they got 110 C last time /which is ridiculous, card would stop working) and now they got acceptable 90 C . As for the rest, Dell spends enough money to avoid recalls or God forbid being sued. Not terrible, not great.

@misterringer

3 жыл бұрын

@@aleksazunjic9672 Cool. Can you tell us what he's doing wrong? He is open to feedback and updating test methodology.

@MLWJ1993

2 жыл бұрын

@@aleksazunjic9672 110°C on a memory module is definitely on the hot side, but should still be okay-ish, 115°C is like the absolute maximum IIRC. That means the card definitely doesn't just stop functioning nor do I think they measure anything wrong. By extend there was an ASUS RX5700XT with really bad cooling that ran memory so hot it *did* throttle badly...

@aleksazunjic9672

2 жыл бұрын

@@MLWJ1993 Well, no. Current MOSFET technology does not allow card to run stable at 110 C on junction. Card would definitely reduce operating frequency (throttle down) to cool itself. If cards remains at 110C you would definitely see artifacts and errors. On the other hand, GN claims that Dell's 1660 Super runs stable at 110C , and at FPS close to other 1660 Super cards. This is physically impossible, and at further examining their measuring methods, they just use thermal IR camera, and that is not the way you could measure junction temperatures. Note that I do not claim that card cannot go to 110C , 115 C or possibly even few degrees higher. But at that temperature it would not run stable at full FPS .

@cmdr_krabov

2 жыл бұрын

LMAO, GTX1660S with no memory cooling, cheapest heatsink and shroud available on the market and electronic parts from no-name manufacturers is of "average build quality". By that logic my R9 390 with server fans attached by zippers is "Premium quality graphics card". Have you ever seen a decent GPU in your life?

"Dell is a confusing company right now," That checks out.

@theredturtle4471

3 жыл бұрын

@Chris from a tech nerd and pc builder stand point i really dislike dell and have never like them acept there moniters are ok, or atleast used to be

@aleksazunjic9672

3 жыл бұрын

Actually it is all BS. Dell's 1660 Super was of average build quality, and so is this 3090. Only thing happening is that GN does not know how to measure memory temperature. That is why they got 110 C last time /which is ridiculous, card would stop working) and now they got acceptable 90 C . As for the rest, Dell spends enough money to avoid recalls or God forbid being sued. Not terrible, not great.

@Emetsys

3 жыл бұрын

@@aleksazunjic9672 If you know how to measure temperature, go on. You are saying that the other 3090 have better cooling on the VRAM measuring with the same method?

@aleksazunjic9672

3 жыл бұрын

@@Emetsys I'm saying that for measuring memory temperature on junctions you need lot more equipment and knowledge . You cannot just take thermal camera and do it. GN presents itself as almost scientific channel (unlike other which are more geared towards entertainment) . Therefore they should update their methods if they really want to be serious. Otherwise, they would just look silly like in their 1660 Super video.

@garysharkey17

2 жыл бұрын

Dell is more interested in thier enterprise products.

Better than dell award. An insult? A compliment? Now I'm confused Edit: glad to see steve felt the same by almost giving them the better than dell award

@yourhandlehere1

3 жыл бұрын

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." - Bilbo Baggins

@Zaprozhan

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if inconsistently bad is better than consistently bad. No matter the company, applaud the good work, and excoriate the bad!

@sonicboy678

3 жыл бұрын

Normally, that would be damning by faint praise, but in this case, it's more like genuine impression.

With their PSU and GPU, if they keep that up, we'll be able to make a whole "better than Dell" computer with Dell parts only

@Vekstar

2 жыл бұрын

I would actually watch that

@jeffscomp

2 жыл бұрын

The psu is very proprietary

@xavierrodriguez2463

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffscomp I think if you know the pinout you can make adaptors well except for the fact that theres no 5v or 3.3v you would have to make something to step it down, and it would also have to be effiecient and stable.

@jeffscomp

2 жыл бұрын

@@xavierrodriguez2463 it'd be too much hassle. You can just buy a seasonic and be done with it

@gamewizard1760

2 жыл бұрын

You won't because Dell computers are so proprietary, they aren't even compatible with each other. The ability to cross match parts between different Dell machines is extremely limited.

hey, on a more positive note, dell now gives the option to not include the ewaste keyboard and mouse!

@vylrent4130

3 жыл бұрын

they will include the cheapest rgb keyboard on amazon as a replacement

I wonder if it was a mistake to only cover half the memory towards the IO or if it had originally been designed with a heat pipe in-mind only cut back on costs last min.

@GamersNexus

3 жыл бұрын

Great point!

@ionstorm66

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe having the heatpipe that long made things worst due to the length?

@ItsReaxxion

3 жыл бұрын

i thought the same but again i saw there is not much room for the pipe to route to the other memory modules because of the NVLink (SLI?) cutout.

@Mallchad

3 жыл бұрын

​@@GamersNexus That's what I thought. It looks like the other 2 parts have the thermal pad directly over the heatpipe, but the 3rd is just chilling on its own, and got an extra thick thermal pad instead...

@user-dn5bx2iu3e

3 жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus I wonder if the bent down cut-outs could act as pass throughs for heat pipes. I could see them just reeling the whole thing back seeing other OEM cards do absolutely nothing about the heat issues with the back plate. Always appreciate you guys. Thanks so much for the work you do.

so.. who made this for you, dell? whoever that was, you should work with them more often

@Megalomaniakaal

3 жыл бұрын

So long as they learn to measure and bend heat pipes better, yes.

@Oofsmageroo

3 жыл бұрын

Its a msi card. My 3080 variant died after 3 days so i think its hit or miss. The replacement has been good for a few months.

@cldpt

3 жыл бұрын

@@notmyfaultthisishappening3795 does MSI even use a vapour chamber or a backplate heatpipe with flow-through air on their top tier cards, such as the huge Suprim or the Gaming X Trio? Anyway, the thing that hurts me most about MSI and still makes me put them waaay down the list of mobo and gpu purchases, is their reticence to offer 3y stock or extended warranty options. For a company their size, it's odd and should be putting off a lot of buyers

@jshico3417

2 жыл бұрын

*angrily yells at the gpu* "WHO DO YOU WORK FOR?!"

I have this card and was able to DRASTICALLY improve the memory temperature (20+ Celsius reduction) by slathering thermal paste all over the vapor chamber perimeter. This will improve thermal contact with the metal part where the memory sits under. Obviously the GPU temps will rise a bit.

@robotuprising1711

3 жыл бұрын

I did the same with my dell 3080. Peel off the stickers, clean with some alcohol, then drown it with thermal paste between the vapour chamber and plate. I have read that some people tried using thin thermal pads, but that thermal paste in that gap performs better

@unRealityFPV

3 жыл бұрын

Literally a 20-30C reduction for 3080 / 3090 cards doing this. Should be MANDATORY if you are mining! The fans will be spinning much slower after as well

@crossey3d

3 жыл бұрын

Same, I use 8 of them to mine and the thermal paste on the VC is a massive reduction on mem temps and a slight bump on GPU

@TRXST.ISSUES

3 жыл бұрын

Can you link a photo?

@TheRnlevi

3 жыл бұрын

@@TRXST.ISSUES I change the thermal pads out and added a lot of thermal paste. Add it to the red areas in the photo. You will see huge improvement in temps. Good luck! ibb.co/TrHxB2L

18:57 The Alienware system looks like a trendy dehumidifier.

This appears to have been designed to have the backplate heat pipe spread around the other side of the longer module stretch. It appears (especially due to the high thermal pad and spacing between screw and pipe) that it does partially cover the modules while wrapping around! The ident pattern appears to support that as well.

@johannes7166

3 жыл бұрын

I was just about to write what you said. I to think the heatpipe is covering part of the memory modules, looking at the frame at 8:51 you can see where the pads have left residue on the upper most modules, and the pipe is just next to that, indicating to me the pipe is covering the other half of the memory module.

@marifla9266

3 жыл бұрын

Seconded

@raymondting8495

3 жыл бұрын

Noticed this as well. Probably the fat pad area is for an extension of the heat pipe too. Either that or the original intention was to have the heat pipe extend all the way, but for some season was stopped short at the 2nd group of memories.

Steve, it deserves the "It Passed the Test" award!

@GamersNexus

3 жыл бұрын

Let's not get ahead of ourselves!

@AwesomeBlackDude

3 жыл бұрын

Y👆😬

@CaveyMoth

3 жыл бұрын

It deserves the Better than Dell award, even though it IS Dell.

@waldolemmer

3 жыл бұрын

@@AwesomeBlackDude ?

@y.o.thefirerat2655

2 жыл бұрын

@@waldolemmer he asked gamer nexus why, what are you confused about? lol

"It's not quite TFX, definitely not ATX, it's not ATX12V0 but it's 12V only. So whatever it is, it's a strange thing." Are you saying that it's alienware?

So, is Gamers Nexus working on a "back to you Steve" shirt yet? I'll take 3.

@Jake9066

3 жыл бұрын

I'll buy one, but can I request a button-up with a collar? I have nothing that goes with my 3080ti(e).

@sammoss3591

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jake9066 underrated comment 😂

@nosirrahx

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jake9066 hehe, dad joke

One thing to note: You can actually see the heatpipe on the back contacting the thermal pad. Not just running above it.

@jamesblaine5517

3 жыл бұрын

Glad someone else noticed this, just a shame they did not extend it to cover the other side.

@JesterMX6

3 жыл бұрын

I was screaming this at the screen lol

@spencertidd

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesblaine5517 I think that's why the thermal pad on the other side is screwy - the backing plate was designed with the assumption that the heatpipe would wrap around all three areas, but the actual design doesn't allow for it for whaever reason so they just dumped some super think thermal pad there.

“in that case, the memory was well done" pun in the pun. damn.

10:45 That's a damn good way to advertise your deskmat. I don't plan on taking my GPU apart but damn that's helpful.

I once used that same Dell PC that you reviewed Steve, and it had a 2060 in it with a proper heatsink and thermal pads. It also didn’t come with any added warranties or as much bloatware. I was pretty impressed with that machine after you reviewed it, but of course I don’t use it anymore.

@sandwichdriving101

3 жыл бұрын

A Dell product that is actually decent?! The prophecy is true...

@JVHShack

3 жыл бұрын

Hell hath frozen over...

@coolguy91975

3 жыл бұрын

Their U series monitors are consistently excellent.

@Locutus494

3 жыл бұрын

@@coolguy91975 Yes, Dell has long had very good monitors, especially their UltraSharp line, and the Alienware gaming monitors are some of the best out there right now.

@keonxd8918

3 жыл бұрын

@@sandwichdriving101 dell's XPS laptops are quite decent too

I just took the Dell 3080 apart last night to do some thermal pad work and what i noticed is that while the 3080 does not have rear mounted GDDR6X, it still has thermal pads and the heat pipe you see in the 3090.

@robotuprising1711

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting, my dell 3080 didn't have the thermal pads or heat pipe on the back.

@SpacedAug

3 жыл бұрын

@@robotuprising1711 That is very interesting indeed

Looks like the backplate was made for that heat pipe to continue around where the taller thermal pad on the memory is. You can see the imprint of the heat pipe on the memory thermal pads on the other side of the die.

Imagine a Dell product getting the _"Better than Dell"_ award.

@Amir-jn5mo

3 жыл бұрын

dell should add that sticker to their products in their store lol

@mikkelbreiler8916

3 жыл бұрын

ikr

Hahahahah, that cliffhanger at 0:15 XD

Whenever Dell designs something for business use, they tend to do pretty well. When they design for the home user, they're very hit and miss. I'm wondering if this card was designed for some server farm or workstation or something and just ended up in an Alienware box.

It’s probably just me but I actually really like the designs of these oem cards. They are very sleek and not overdone like most traditional aib cards

@SuperSucc69

Жыл бұрын

Me too! I think the simple look can make a build look very sleek instead of over-the-top RGB, logos and heat pipes everywhere style of other cards

@ashupashu5559

Жыл бұрын

@@SuperSucc69 RGB looks fine if you use the right colors.

Can we get a gaussian blur on here? *Uses mosiac instead

Michael Dell: "it's free ad time, of course I sent it to you"

"our viewer sent us this 3090" **proceeds to slap it 17 times after holding it like a gun**

@Nostalgia_Realm

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😩

@dasKeks28

3 жыл бұрын

I think Steve even broke it. Look at the screw hole on the corner at 14:20 😂

You need to make a "It's better than a Dell" trophy.

@mikkelbreiler8916

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment.

Mentioning the thermal pad thickness and the fan model?!! You sir have my full utmost respect.

Any video by Gamers Nexus that has "Dell" in the title, you know it's gunna be funny

I love Steves suprised happy face when he says that its not that bad 🙂

Love the count-down bars you have in the review.

Did a review on this as well and had pretty much exactly the same pros and cons list as you! Another fantastic teardown.

Seeing a 3090 with a green PCB feels wrong

@jonahhekmatyar

3 жыл бұрын

Finally, the pcbs are returning to nature

@matasa7463

3 жыл бұрын

Just there to remind you that it's still a cheap Dell OEM part. Everything on it is still as cheap as possible, but obviously the minimum needed for a 3090 is a whole different beast from a 1660's.

@corruptedpoison1

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonahhekmatyar Nature is healing

@shredderorokusaki3013

3 жыл бұрын

i saw your name now.... Are you Greek too?!

@gregdaweson4657

2 жыл бұрын

It is like seeing an old friend. Put a smile on my face.

The heat pipe on the backplate rests on top of the thermal pads that are on the memory modules. Perhaps that tall thermal pad is not due to a mistake, but rather a design change. Maybe an earlier version had a heat pipe in that area, and they decided to remove it for cost and/or because it wasn't as effective on that side of the card.

I have a Dell 3070 that looks identical to this. I'm probably going to pull it apart at some point now just to see if it is actually the same cooler, or just the same shroud

very well done, good job giving props where props are due

They used the same stamp for all of the backplate, to save money, and just used the thick thermal pad to accommodate for the lack of heatpipe on that side of the backplate. The other two didn't need it because it has the heatpipe to cover the other half of the memory chip.

Take a look at the RTX 3090 made by HP please. It comes with Omen prebuilds.

@rice6022

3 жыл бұрын

Kinda thought this was the same one

I have a Dell Aurora R10 with a 3080ti coming in, so I await your R10 review with great interest!

I ordered an Alienware R12 just for the 3090. Got the EKWB waterblock and active backplate for the card and that really got the thermals in line. Like the size of the package.

As in the past, I think MSI makes these cards for Dell. You can tell from the "MS" model # on the front of the card right above its PCIe connector.

@alltheboost5363

2 жыл бұрын

MSI the name also shows up in the Alienware software for overclocking.

This types of cards reminds me of captains workspace GPUs

@CaveyMoth

3 жыл бұрын

If only Gamers Nexus used Cornholio Mark for their GPU benchmarks.

@bentron5228

3 жыл бұрын

It dosen't have enough fans to be one

@shredderorokusaki3013

3 жыл бұрын

@@bentron5228 Still i havent found RTX 3080 yet! Since october i go to shops trying to find rtx33080 and now i also search for rtx3070ti or rtx 3080 ti. I just came back from a shop. They told me that they expect full avaliaibiltiy until the end of the year. But they also told me that there are people who has ordered the cards since 5 months ago and havent received them yet!!! At least myG TX 970 G1 GAMING that i have since november 2014 still runs evrything at max settings 1440p 30+ fps and games that are not very demanding like crash bandicoot 4 for example, still run maxed 1440p 60 fps. I hope avaliaibility becomes normal soon so i can get a card!!! Anyway, see my videos too i play all action games and most fighters!

@shredderorokusaki3013

3 жыл бұрын

@@CaveyMoth Still i havent found RTX 3080 yet! Since october i go to shops trying to find rtx33080 and now i also search for rtx3070ti or rtx 3080 ti. I just came back from a shop. They told me that they expect full avaliaibiltiy until the end of the year. But they also told me that there are people who has ordered the cards since 5 months ago and havent received them yet!!! At least myG TX 970 G1 GAMING that i have since november 2014 still runs evrything at max settings 1440p 30+ fps and games that are not very demanding like crash bandicoot 4 for example, still run maxed 1440p 60 fps. I hope avaliaibility becomes normal soon so i can get a card!!! Anyway, see my videos too i play all action games and most fighters!

The backplate heat pipe should go next to the last modules also. And having it over by the exhaust air actually gives it good cooling capability

I got an Alienware R10 during Dell's last sale for under $2k, it has a 5800x and 6800xt. I debated simply pulling them out but decided to add in a few fans to help the airflow and add some thermal pads to the GPU. Overall it came out pretty good and is working well.

> "Not to be confused with Michael Dell, I don't think he would send us anything at this point" lmao

Probably the only 3090 I've seen that can fit in to my mini ITX case surprisingly... I already have my 3080 which I pre-ordered last November coming (in three weeks hopefully), but it would be interesting to see if other manufacturers will release smaller sized cards in the near future...

@lazyreuvin

Жыл бұрын

@@nataliek3384 I have a louqe ghost s1. Really love the build and quality of the case but I'm definitely limited as its only a two slot case. I had to deshroud my evga xc3 ultra to fit. I would also recommend getting a meshlicious or a formd t1 if you're after other mini itx options 😊.

Thank you for bringing up Sapphire cooling designs, We've been running Sapphire cards since 2008 and have always been very happy with the cooling.

Thanks Mike for letting him use your 3090 for this video. Loving the content.!

"Better than expected" award!

Out of curiosity, do you ever test a card after re-assembly and check if there are notable differences?

@pf100andahalf

Жыл бұрын

That's irrelevant. If he reassembles the card and it doesn't work as well as before, where is the value in mentioning that? Pretty sure it wouldn't work better than before either, so yeah.

Can't give enough kudos for highlighting the graph's vertical axis being magnified and why. Awesome statistical integrity.

I have this card, but I got it several months ago. I also bought it in the same type of R10 system and re-housed it in another case (after the alienware PSU failed due to overheating). I can tell you that Dell didn't actually make them all this way. Mine had considerably less thermal pads, and a lot less paste. I didn't have any of the extra tall pads seen here on my unit, only the thinner ones that cover the chips only partially. I opened it up so that I could add more thermal material because my VRAM was hitting 100c while mining as the only video card in an open case. After opening it up and doing to my card at home basically exactly what you've observed on this card from the factory, temperatures while mining dropped to around 90c on the VRAM, but now crammed into a smaller case with another video card also mining, so it's actually an even bigger difference than it appears. I'm suspecting they've had some RMAs or at least customer complaints from these RTX 3090 Alienware systems and in order to reduce RMAs they've started to include more thermal compound from the factory in more recent models.

As a Dell employee, we needed this win..

@Rawsawn

2 жыл бұрын

win is a strong word ;D

@mikemallen3453

2 жыл бұрын

Where’s my x15

@mikemallen3453

2 жыл бұрын

Am kidding sorry

@gregdaweson4657

2 жыл бұрын

Chin up, I'm sure you'll get better eventually. I personally love the monitors.

Kinda impressed it can cool that well given the fairly small heatsink vs other 3090s. And a good candidate for water cooling if it's a reference board.

@steph66h

3 жыл бұрын

i stumbled on a video of the EK waterblock working with the dell 3090 as it is a reference board. somewhere on you tube.

8:25 the heatpipe does go over the memory. You can clearly see the part where the thermal pad is nice and flat next to the part isn't. The part that isn't is in the same location where the thermal pad material sticks to the backplate. Therefore the heat pipe is indirect contact with the thermal pad

8:30 Steve the heat pipe is contacting the thermal tape which you can see from the outline in the tape, so it is contacting the components! 👍 Would have been better if they took the pipe into the slot area to get air flow directly on it. 9:10 it was clear that they should have put the heat pipe on backwards. The "U" of the heat pipe should be flipped around or another longer pipe with a U should have been installed to better wrap around the memory.

Knowing Dell, I’m surprised that they’re now doing something half-right

@Pwnag3Inc

3 жыл бұрын

Surely it is a big misunderstanding. Big wig at dell just watched this video and heads are rolling.

@yourhandlehere1

3 жыл бұрын

I'm out in my shop right now. I'm watching this on a...12 year old Dell Latitude Core2 Duo laptop running XP. 2 whole giggity bites of ram. It's never crashed. It used to travel a lot. There's a 32 in TV hooked to it, remote key board and mouse, powered speakers. The battery died a few years ago, it stays on AC power. 50mbps wifi. I had an ethernet cable running out to the shop but one day I had a lightning strike right outside. It went right up the cable and knocked me off the computer...hit me through the wired mouse. Knocked stuff off the walls. Now the ethernet port doesn't work. Other than that it's fine.

@Azerkeux

2 жыл бұрын

I have an old T3500 workstation from 2013 that has been running 24/7 365 for nearly 10 years without a single hitch

@gregdaweson4657

2 жыл бұрын

@@yourhandlehere1 You must repair it as a reward for it's dedicated service.

These OEM cards are quite interesting to me. I just picked up a Lenovo RTX 3080 for cheap a couple of days ago. Tracking shows it will be delivered tomorrow. I can't wait to see how it is put together.

@MHCP

Жыл бұрын

Some models are interesting. HP and Lenovo uses good components

@Daz555Daz

Жыл бұрын

@@MHCP I have my Lenovo 3080 now and it looks very well put together. Plenty of cooling for both core and memory and it is performing very nicely. Nice LED lighting as well.

@BoboFerre

Жыл бұрын

@@Daz555Daz my lenovo 3070 is very hot when running above 150 watts and very loud it so so annoying because most 3070's running quite and cold

These Dell tests are fun for comic relief. Keep 'em comin'! 😁

love the ambiance in the intro lol

Hi, I have the 3080 thats the sister of this card. Putting thermal paste all the way out on the vapor chamber drops temps on the 3080 significantly. My memory was hitting 110, now it peaks at 74. take off those stickers and put paste

When prices dropped on the used market, october 2022, I got a Dell 3080 for $450 in great shape. I really like the card. It's well built, and with the latest bios and the "thermal paste on the vram plate by the gpu core trick" (that you didn't mention in your video probably because you weren't aware of it yet) that lowers vram temps down to 90c, It's at least as good as any other well built reference 3080.

I feel like the U part of the copper heat pipe on the back plate was supposed to touch 3 of the 4 vram locations; and that is why the larger thermal pad was needed

I don't know if you guys have looked at their Rtx 3080, but they look identical with the exception of the back plate copper heat pipe they added for the vram cooling. Out of the box, the front memory runs hot as hell because there is no contact with the cooling capabilities of the heat sink, a .5mm thermal pad or even some thermal paste surprisingly does a better job at dissipating heat simply by adding the paste or pad between the copper vapor chambers and the black plate covering the vram in the front. The heat on the 3080 I dealt with, dropped from over 110 to just under 90c and allowed it to stop thermal throttling. Great break down, thanks for taking the time Steve.

My favorite part 14:12 ' They must be doing something wrong ' Ohh I'm waiting as well lol!..

I have a DELL RTX 3080 (shortly after launch) and its been one of the best GPU. Its ugly, yes, but it fits amazing well in normal size cases, which I can't say the same for my other RTX 3070 from MSI.

@Pursc248

Жыл бұрын

i have a dell 1660 super and its run great idk whats up with all the hate...I can run any game out there

@Swiss4.2

Жыл бұрын

@@Pursc248 have you seen your memory temps?

Love the channel, love you dudes

R11 owner with the 3090 and playing DCS runs like a champ with no thermal issues using msi/af for the card. Also mainly running DCS with HP G2 VR the 3090 is a must for me. Vram temps are usually around 96c while gaming. It’s actually is great gaming machine especially if your not a builder. Thanks Steve !

I was JUST looking at a 3080 dell model thinking there's no way I'd buy one even if it was the only one I could get, although now due to this video... no, no I can wait for a non-green pcb model

@arz1898

3 жыл бұрын

Just a random info but it seems to be any nvidia card with GDDR6X memory will draw so much power at idle (around 100-120w for 3080ti. not sure for 3080) Idk, that seems not good specially if you leave your pc at night, it can even warm the room!

@DeSinc

3 жыл бұрын

@@arz1898 my 1080 draws 20% power at idle until I turn on gsync where it drops back down to 5-8% idle, I imagine that might be related. if I recall correctly, I used to be able to idle at lower power without having to use gsync on desktop.

@gregdaweson4657

2 жыл бұрын

Green pcb is the best pcb. RGB looks terrible. Change my mind

Expect the TVA to take the person responsible for Dell having a good product.

@lucaschinder3875

3 жыл бұрын

I understood that reference! Ps: literally just finished the 6th ep. Pretty cool yet confusing, Disney wth gimme my post credit scene >:(

@thealien_ali3382

3 жыл бұрын

I understood this to, I need to watch the final episode today!

Around @9:00 It looks like the heat pipe was meant to circle all 3 sides of the memory, but something has changed those plans and the back plate was not fixed for the change.

I think the backplate memory cutout was meant to have the heat pipe on both side and top, but for some reason the heat pipe was only long enough for the rear and top side, so they padded the empty space with thermal pad.

"It was not well done. The... well... I guess, in that... In that case the memory was well done, as in it was... was cooked extremely well at about 110º Celsius." Just priceless.

@vylrent4130

3 жыл бұрын

yum

@ManOfAttitudeLP1998

2 жыл бұрын

RTX 3090 founders edition has the same case with that I have owned one but RMA'd it because of that and because it didn't have much resell worth atleast with making any profit

I really appreciate your journalistic integrity. As weird as Dell can be, I see you giving them praise where it's deserved, and that's nice to see.

That left hand memory module on the back-it looks like the heat pipe was originally going to keep going down that side, because there's the same smooth finish there as under it on the other side.

9:41 I'm probably wrong, but it looks like the horseshoe of the heatpipe was meant to go over all of the memory modules with the right angle at the other side. Based on my completely unscientific pixel measuring of a screenshot of the backplate, the outer dimension of the horseshoe is the exact dimension that you would want the interior dimension to be to fit around the depression in the backplate. They got the dimensions wrong and didn't realize it until they started assembling. Quick fix, flip it around and add a taller thermal pad where the heat pipe was supposed to be.

It looks fairly simplistic, I like it. If you didn't know you wouldn't have guessed it's a 3090 the perfect sleeper gpu~

They sell the 3090s in their precision workstation lines as well, those have their issues, but their professional products are a bit better designed overall than their consumer junk. I assume thats why this was better.

@crowdemon_archives

2 жыл бұрын

"a bit better" sounds pretty sad lmao

@scottnieradka6836

2 жыл бұрын

@@crowdemon_archives the bar is low

I like the look of dell's black rectangle gpus. Looks minimalistic and clean

the heatpipes actually ARE on top of the memory modules. You can see the impressions in the pads

GN: "Sometimes Dell actually tries" Dell: **Loud cheering noises and opening champagne 🍾🥂**

Damn, Dell. Why can't you just sell these alone instead of encased in e-waste?

At first look heat pipe on backside for memories was probably meant to go around all 3 banks but later it changed (saving cost?). So 2 bank are half covered by backplate and other half with heat pipe. But last bank is covered only on one half so they added higher thermal pad to cover other half too

I think that heatpipe on backplate was designed to run also to memory on other side (to cool 3 sides) - but someway during design process it was shortened to cool only 2 sides (maybe it was not performing as expected) and maybe backplates were already built so they added 2,5mm thermal pads instead of that heatpipe

“apply some gaussian blur on this" *Applies pixelation*

"Dell tries" Dell - Looks like we have more corners we can cut next time to reach the bottom of the barrel

I think the heatpipe was meant to go over the third memory module, as well. It was later shortened for some reason so they had to use different height pads.

That heatpipe does touch the top and left side memory (if viewed from your angle when holding it Steve). Look at the thermal pads you can see where it touches on the left side.

i keep seeing all of these award name recommendations and i can't help but give you mine as well! it gets the, " I can't believe it's dell" award!

literally peeled my jaw off the floor when that heatpipe showed up.. are you sure this is a dell product?

@benruss4130

3 жыл бұрын

My money says that they hot some other company to manufacture and design it for them.

I think the doubled up pad on one side of the backplate is because they designed it to have the heatpipe all the way there and then changed plans to not have the heatpipe reach there.

well its made by MSI so that is where this Quality came from :P Shoutout to the Viewer that submitted the Card!

This is legit the only air-cooled, non-FE card stronger than a 3070 I've seen that doesn't have three massive fans and a hulking triple slot heatsink.

@talhahtaco2035

2 жыл бұрын

Hell even the founders edition has a triple slot cooler

it seemed like with the back plate heat pipe that the design was originally a heat pipe that hit all 3 sections of the memory modules covering a portion of them all. Then the tooling for the sheet metal tool for the back plate was paid for first. Then later on in manufacturing feasibility the heat pipe either couldn't be formed the additional 90 degree bend due to tooling or the heat pipe itself got damaged etc. during a pilot production run so now you have the end result with the increased thermal pad height and the heat pipe forgoing that vram section.

Hey Steve, I get immense satisfaction seeing your meticulously created intro logo animation. But. My, and I'm assuming most people, don't get to appreciate it in it's full HD glory, due to KZread videos starting at 420p for the first second or 2, before becoming HD. This video being the fantastic exception. Can I recommend a small snippet like in this video, just before logo, so your hard work can be appreciated? Thanks! P.S. Yeah I'm a little obsessed with your logo, but it's just so crisp, so satisfying when it's HD that I sometimes even slide back to the beginning to watch it again in all it's glory!

So in a span of 20 years, we've gone from "Dude, you're getting a Dell." to "Dude, you're getting a Dell?"

@angolin9352

3 жыл бұрын

I don't remember a time when Dell produced good PCs - They were known to be prone to breaking in the mid-2000s.

@Thelango99

2 жыл бұрын

@@angolin9352 They made good laptops in the 90's.

@chronicalcultivation

2 жыл бұрын

@@angolin9352 every pre-built company has had a bad rep in someone's mind because a lot of people who buy prebuilds don't know wtf they're doing, and break their computer. I knew someone who kept ranting about Acer being shit because they had multiple Acer computers with issues.. Turned out she installed a huge load of malware on all of them. The hardware was fine.

@angolin9352

2 жыл бұрын

@@chronicalcultivation That's true - But Dells were specifically prone to hardware failures in the early and mid 2000s. I'm not sure if it was a mobo or PSU issue (it was before I knew hardware troubleshooting), but nearly everyone I knew had Dells that would just not turn on one day. Looking back on it, it was probably part of the capacitor plague, but the people I knew who had other brands like HP or Lenovo hardly ever had those issues happen to those systems.

@chronicalcultivation

2 жыл бұрын

@@angolin9352 the Dell desktop I got in 2004 had a hardware failure, funny enough. It wasn't Dell's fault though and didn't have to do with the motherboard or power, the GeForce FX5200 GPU I had in it died when one of the capacitors randomly blew. I now have to wonder if that was a common issue