Solid build & value, no knees: LEGO Ninjago Fire Stone Mech review! 71720
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Independent look at yet another LEGO mech, this one from Ninjago season 13 & featuring the combination of Kai's & Cole's elements.
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I think a lot of us might underestimate the difficulty of adding knee joints. While knee joints help with articulation and posability, it also presents a physics problem as the weight of the upper body of newer LEGO Mechs are much heavier (compared to Bionicle and Exo-force). I don't think LEGO would ignore the request for knee joints, as perhaps they might have a prototype that actually has knee joints but it was not acceptable to other design standards as Jang had mentioned. I'll admit, I don't have very much experience on designing knee joints, but perhaps it would be an interesting to study to analyze LEGO hinges and joint pieces to see which would make a good knee joint considering all of the important aspects of joints, such as articulation, posability, strength, maximum weight, aesthetic detail, etc.
@StarMiners0416
4 жыл бұрын
Usually, a combination of Exo-Force knee/elbow joints and friction-enforced Bionicle/Hero Factory joints should be good enough. However, the knees would get pretty clunky at that point and would diminish the appearance of the knees. A good alternative would be to keep the knees without joints, but put them at a 30-degree bend at least to at least simulate a natural pose both for walking and standing. Completely straight legs would be a bit weird.
@Yee_Wee
4 жыл бұрын
I trued with Lloyd’s Titan mech and it fell, I trued all stronger method with demon bull king it stayed up for a bit the fell. This mech has a lot of bulk in the legs and the top is lighters than normal so I’m gonna try again
@nogozoo2582
4 жыл бұрын
These are my people
@aloysiuscabral4459
4 жыл бұрын
ive made a couple mechs and ive always made it a goal of mine to add knees. ive usually used ball joints, technic pieces, or a combination of both. theyre a bit inconsistent, but they work. a thing to note though is the fact that my mechs have all been relatively lightweight. for bigger mechs, i would probably use double ratcheted ball joints. i dont really have experience with bigger mechs as ive never had enough pieces to build one.
@spinjitzumasterfalcon
3 жыл бұрын
I guess you have a point. But I added knee joints on Lloyd's Titan Mech and it worked
As always, all comments are moderated, unwanted spam like "first" is deleted before it's ever seen by the public!
@tinyguyproductions7700
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jang for moderating the "first" spam. Were did you get this set?
@ujo5682
4 жыл бұрын
Hi
@bigerne73
4 жыл бұрын
Good
@AbbeyThoughts
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Jang, for Future reviews, you should know that the Orc Creatures are actually called “Munces”, and the Goblins are called, “Geckles”
@itsyeboipiklerick2648
4 жыл бұрын
JANGBRiCKS can you please do the journey to the skull dungeons or skull sorcerers dungeons next?
That skull molding on that sword tho!
@Lordodragonss
4 жыл бұрын
Wish it was Lego skull...
@davis3138
4 жыл бұрын
8:19 my thoughts exactly; look at that molding. So intricate and small - unlike anything else LEGO has done (i.e. when lego does "skulls," they're usually printed pieces, with the exception of the Indiana Jones crystal skull). First thought that came to mind for a MOC, bury that "sword" part inside a car, and have just the hilt and the skull sticking out. Would make for a perfect hood ornament; perfect size and shape.
@ceciliaFX
4 жыл бұрын
I WANT that sword!
@HeyItsCam17
3 жыл бұрын
ceciliaFX me too
And so Jang continues his crusade for mechs with knees. One day Lego will listen, one day...
@NicktheBrickOG
4 жыл бұрын
He's right! I mean I use mechs as display models, but still the lack of knees in still pretty bad...
@jacksonbrickmedia939
4 жыл бұрын
It’s kind of silly how a cheap mr.Freeze mech in a 20$ set with other things had knees but this set does not!
@tinyguyproductions7700
4 жыл бұрын
they did with the 2020 golden mech
@ninjayoshi8020
4 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonbrickmedia939 Knees just don't work on big mechs. I tried to give Lloyd's Titan Mech knees but it always fell over.
@TajirMusil
4 жыл бұрын
If only lego made a system made specifically for giant robots.
I appreciate the review summaries in the video titles. You'd think they would discourage viewing, but I ended up wanting further detail about your evaluation.
I also had the spare gray piece. So happy, that I didn't leave anything out.
One thing that upsets me about this wave is that Cole doesn't get a set focused on him despite being the protagonist this season
@justarandomfurbywithakitch903
4 жыл бұрын
*F*
@johnnations5932
4 жыл бұрын
Your great Comment expressed what I was thinking before I could type it:)
@tinyguyproductions7700
4 жыл бұрын
Another thing that that annoys me with Cole this wave is that he has gold highlights and not silver highlights like he had with the OG ZX and then throughout the series with silver highlights. They could have given Lloyd gold highlights this season and Cole silver highlights.
@mbphilipblack8993
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree, he has to get one shared with another ninja being Kai a popular character with a popular colour. It should have been a stone mech, since it is a Cole season, but since it's grey, it's not that appealing. I honestly prefer the sleek design of the red samurai side. I might have to get two in order to make it a full Kai mech.
@skipslegoandbeyond7757
4 жыл бұрын
Excuse me ; fire STONE mech . Still I sort of know what you mean
Yeah, I just don’t see why the knees “knee-d” to be at a 90 degree angle. They could have had ratchet joints, as far as I remember how those worked. (It’s been a while since I’ve used them)
@QShen-tt2jx
4 жыл бұрын
Yea but the joint will have to bear the entire weight of the mech, and if u bulk it up then it will just make the knee clunky
In the show, the mech’s operators are supposed to be covered up, as you suggested. I definitely would have preferred to see that aswell. Not sure why they opted to neglect that feature
I love this set even though it doesn’t have Knee joints. It has two of my favorite mini figures and I love Mechs. And I love the Color Scheme even though it’s more red than gray. And the Mech is amazing overall. Thanks for the review!!
@certifiedtrash3152
3 жыл бұрын
agreed
I love that you show the extras, thank you sir,
despite the lack of knees, the overall standard fof lego mech designs has been raised so high at this point that this set- which today many would consider a 'standard' quality set- would have been considered the best mech ever if it were released like 5 or so years ago.
I'm bittersweet about Ninjago. My finances could no longer support this long-lived line and so the heavy decision was made to sell my collection. I think Season 10 was my final year. Looking at the interconnectivity of Season 13's sets makes me sad I'm not around to have built the enemy lava stronghold and savored the combined play environment. But I can still enjoy Jang's high-quality videos of them.
@johnnations5932
4 жыл бұрын
Yes I lost all my work because of the Pandemic and am so grateful for Jang's super-high-quality work. If I had income, I'd still buy modulars , HP and SW rather than Ninjago, but Jang makes it entertaining.
Jang, you are a great speaker/creator. You are the most articulate describer of articulation in the online English-speaking Legoverse. Your mention of both transparisteel AND transparent aluminum are much appreciated by the Star Wars and Star Trek fan in me, plus you took the time to explain how different the perspectives of Lego designers vs. end users/AFOLs/kids are and will always be. I must concur about the exposed pilot problem. The reason these need knees, apart from poseability, is to give the Minifigure pilots a way to climb out. Is there a rope or ladder? I always picture that, on a mission far from base, the mech would kneel to let its occupants egress. Also, every Ninjago fig should get a hairpiece every single time. Let's do this, Lego Group:)
Jangbricks is always so real and always my favorite LEGO reviewer because he doesn’t want to waste your time a make money off of it.
I'm really digging the Knight aesthetic this line has. I just really want the animals they've had since the first wave to be addresses. Give Jay a giant lightnong Octopus or something.
This is not true to the story kai was actually caged by the Skull Sorcerer when Cole finds the STONE mech thwn he fights a lava monster they previously encountered and then it has lava on it now. And only Cole can controle the mech btw.
@Lordodragonss
3 жыл бұрын
That was really lame, I really was hoping they would connect their powers to make it.
I think it's fine because the knees are bent in such a way that implies motion, either crouching in preparation for jumping or crouching in defense. The problem with straight leg mechs without knee posibility is that they look lifeless, like they're standing there waiting to be powered on. I don't see that with this mech.
The reason for no knee joints is for stability right out of the box. Seeing as these sets are marketed towards a younger audience it's quite obvious as to why they dont put that extra mobility in. Mostly because it will increase production cost and it could also effect the stability of the build itself. If everyone is so desperate for these sets to have knee articulation make it yourself that's what the hobby is there for.
The skull sorcerers dragon is the best set in the line! And the sheer wingspan is big!
@errormessage1487
3 жыл бұрын
I think the the skull sorcerers dungeon is better idk I just like the Rock work and aesthetic of it it might be my favourite ninjago set of all time
Make me thinking of the old days
I like your new format for the set review titles and the minifigure in the thumbnails!
Hi Jang i remember watching your RC channel when I was 8 years old and you convinced me to buy a rustler which I did and still use it to this day. It’s nice to see that your still making videos on your channels.
Their torso prints look very reminiscent of their ZX suits from 2012, just with different armor over top of the gi.
Thank you. Your video reviews have been useful for me in deciding what sets to purchase.
Jang, you are my Lego building hero. Anything I make I try to do in different ways to normal like you and love your vids
Design wise the mech is a giant lego version of Kamen Rider W’s Heat/Metal form. Same colors, similar elements for each half, and two pilots/users. The colors are even on the same side
I like the new video caption/thumbnail thing you are doing Jang, lots of love
I feel like this is one of those mech designs that's very good in a vacuum, but the posability limitations knock it down quite a bit, and I can't help feeling annoyed that they felt the need to make it a majority-Kai set when in the show it's 100% Cole.
Great video as always Jang. I myself like this set fine for its price. It was bit of an letdown that there's is only room for one of the two ninjas accesories. Here starts the essay part on my opinion on posebility of big lego mechs: I personally feel that Lego is on to something wit these "pre-bend" knees. They were really close to perfection with the golden mech, now they just have to figure out how to scale it up to the current stannard size of "big mechs". (I am ready to accepts some trade off's I'm just desperate for some articulation to give them other good poses than standing up straight.) (Sorry for grammatic errors)
The two "pilots" is very reminiscent of the Jaegers from Pacific Rim! No idea if thats what its like in the story but its a cool concept nonetheless edit: also, the new Ninja designs totally remind me of the Power Rangers... Ninja Storm I wanna say? I'm no expert but they're cool as hell all the same
Can you please review the wu battle dragon please ?
Love this set so much becuse its beatifull , its complex and modern , and it has a lot of playibility . I dont have a problem with the kneese and i would give 10 out of 10 . The minifigures are just crazy and everythink is amazing .
Best lego mech set ever, great review jang 👏👏
Wow that's actually sick
Loving the new titles with descriptions, btw
thank you jang
Ninjago is one one of the best theme made by lego
Good job Jang ; Good job
The dual color is nice, they could have had the center sort of split between gray and red instead of mostly red.
Cool set! Like the detail!
Hello jang im 18 and still enjoy your videos keep up the work as always
Awesome!
That looks dope
Truly great, Truly great
yesss i’ve been waiting for you to get the season 13 sets
Yay ive been waiting for this review Love u jang
Best review description I’ve ever seen
Love the new icons, BTW (meant to say it a bit back!) Still enjoy the content, thanks for bringing enjoyment to KZread :)
I think that Lego can carry on making mechs galore as long as they are good.
Man, I love mechs! I love this even though I have more complaints then I should have.
I'm not a huge fan of this mech but i love what they did with minifigures, like their weapons and the orc's hair. I also love the sword
Hi Jang I’ve noticed that you’ve built Wu’s battle dragon but you haven’t reviewed it, are you going to review it? Thank you
I feel u on mechs I only recently got into them but I usually take them apart it make my own but always end up ordering just two more joints for knees it helps so much I have no idea with LEGO doesn’t
i think the skull on the sword is strange since we know what a full skeleton looks like in Lego World.
@matthewsmith5169
4 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@totally_not_elai
4 жыл бұрын
The skeletons from this wave (?) of ninjago use the legacy skulkin heads, so they are as detailed as the head on the swords
Biggest problem with these big mechs is that although they don’t have knees because of stability, people like chubbybots have made legs for the keeping everything else the same that looks and functions better, and shouldn’t change the cost much or at all. Edit: search up Chubbybots Instagram and you can find his latest picture is one of his upgrade of this mech, keeping everything relatively the same but changing the legs completely. It not has knee articulation, but is also stable and just has a better design to it too.
Hello Jang! I know little about Ninjago, but I see a Jangbricks video and I click. Anyone else the same?
@johnnations5932
4 жыл бұрын
I am just like that. I only went to the Ninjago Movie because of the HD rendered animation and the cat. That was the first time I ever even knew the ninja's names. But Jang is so good I'd watch him review a vacuum cleaner and hit the Thumbs-Up:)
Let’s make mech knees the next “we want a 501st battle pack”
11:08 I remember that same piece as a plume on Macy's helmet in Nexo Knights that didn't particularly stay too well either...
Wow I got the fire stone mech in Christmas 🎄
When I first saw this I thought it would be as good as Lloyd’s mech from season 11 but unfortunately not.Before I buy a set I always watch one of your reviews on it and you should keep up the great work always brightening our days. I hope you all have a great day.
I like it!
Wow. I have never even seen this set before now. It's interesting.
On the rocky side, I agree with JANG that they don't look like fingers, but I actually like that better for a mech. Less fingers means less technical things that can go wrong. It's a very realistic design concept.
Haven’t watched ninjago in years but I might get this
This came out on my birthday
As a collector more so of action figures than lego, I can say that no knees are a big drawback. It makes all other leg and foot articulation essentially useless.
@StigmaKRL
4 жыл бұрын
and the rotation at the thighs too
Cole is turning into Gorzan. Soooooo many Hammers!!!!!
I love how these brickbuilt mechs look. If they can fix the articulation issues, I could endorse a Bionicle revival done this way.
I got that same set and it turned out ok
I'm impressed by its size.
This set looks grand!...despite the knees.
Mechs are my favorite. i was building mechs before Lego made them. Back in the 80s i built a few combiners using a trash-truck as a leg, a helicopter as an arm, etc. Do you remember TYCO blocks? They had some transforming robots: I had the helicopter and the car. They weren't great, but they had new parts that moved that Lego didn't invent. I also built Voltron Vehicle mech
@johnnations5932
4 жыл бұрын
The 80s? Cool, you are an AFOL of my generation!
I like how JANG put no knees in the title.
The orc paldrun is a recolored part from season 9
I love that he knows that Im looking for the knees
Jang, I think that lego were tire of your pose sessions so they made this jang proof. Also, ur very cool man! Keep up the good work!
I got the spare 2x2 light bluish gray slope as well
Funny I got a firestone tires ad on this video and this is about a fire stone mech 😂
I think this set looks kinda cool.
I like the look of it certainly. I think the half rock look works well a really suits the half ninja half knight look of the whole theme. I also really like the theme as a whole. I won't likely get this because I'd rather have the connectable game sets but I think it looks very neat.
Grey print ain’t obvious dude /Jang 🔥🔥🔥🔥😘🥳😔😝😭🤩🥺😅😌🥰🤨🥳
A pair of large ratchets, and then a sliding beam in the back that is at max extension when the leg is, hits the top of the thigh when the knees are fully bent. Or, similar, but with a sprung beam or whatever that piece is called, closer to the knee. I figure that'd help.
the "no knees " in the tittle ahahaha .We love a right away solid opinion!
Cool.
I think every summer wave there gonna make a large mech and iv already committed so now I’ve gotta buy them all
The sword has a very realistic skull on it. It feels weird to see that instead of a regular lego skull in a lego set.
Noice set
@octowuss1888
4 жыл бұрын
nice set - no such word as noice
@errormessage1487
3 жыл бұрын
@@octowuss1888 bruh shut up it is a meme
I want those red pieces on the pauldron to replace the shoulders on the new Hulkbuster lol.
I can’t wait for my Mail to come coz I got the same set
Cool
Are you going to review series 20 of LEGO minifigures? Also great review keep it up!
A fine edition to my mech collectioby the way those he has the same size like the golden mech from 2020
I wish LEGO mechs were more similar to Chubbybots mocs, they are so cool and epic
One of the things that keeps being of consideration for me is that because video games have gotten so stuck into the standard of 60$ for AAA games they've been getting bigger and bigger but the price is generally the same, and its hard sometimes to justify a lego set over a game that can have way more content.
This mech is really solid and it looks like a samurai rsrs
Great review as always, Jang! I would have preferred if the grey was black and a little bit of brown. The grey doesn't look that bad but it's not Cole's color (scheme) and black with brown would have looked way better.
Yay
An add for Firestone tires popped up right before I started watching this video.
In other words; if you want a mech so badly, get the Titan Mech from last year while it's still in stock. It's better than this thing as well as both the mechs in the Monkie Kid line. It's sturdy, it's stable, it has great articulation, and is good as both a toy and a display piece, unlike the oversized monkey, bull, and lava dude. Though this one IS admittedly the cheapest of the bunch and has a good price-per-part ratio, so it's not a total loss. Besides that, the issue I have with this thing is that it doesn't fit in with the rest of the wave. This is supposed to be a European-style high fantasy setting. What the heck is a giant robot doing here? It should have been something like a golem. It doesn't even come with any additions to the board game that the other sets include. It's like they just put this in because some higher-up suit demanded the wave have a mech.