Sodium-ion Batteries: Interview with Dr. Laura Lander
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As CATL, Chinese battery manufacturers announced the large-scale production of Sodium-Ion Batteries lately, what differentiates them from the dominating Lithium-Ion technology and what advantages do they have due to critical material such as cobalt or lithium?
Which applications are they suitable for and will we see them as commercialized products in the future? Is China the leading country in the field of Sodium-ion batteries?
Watch the whole Interview on KZread with Dr. Laura Lander, postdoctoral research associate in the electrochemical science and engineering group at the Imperial College London, interviewed by the energy journalist Markham Hislop.
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Great interview. Very informative.
It should be very interesting to see where battery technology goes over the next 20 years. The idea that battery chemistry will be tuned to best fit the needs of the application makes a lot of sense.
In California, USA is NATRON ENERGY who is Manufacturing Na-ion batteries since several years ago. There is also AMTE POWER in Scothland and INDI ENERGY in India who are both very close to the mass production stage.
@iajdani
Жыл бұрын
CATL seems doing it for EV
Please suggest any powder which can be used to convert h2so4 acid battery to gell battery.
Which storage technology would you expect take the lead in residential photovoltaic systems?
I wonder if it makes sense to combine water desalination with sodium production for Na batteries, using the very high salt water from the desal waste, solves several problems at once.
Is the negative terminal at low potential compared to positive terminal? If so, how would electrons move from low to high potential? Everyone uses water tank analogy to tell us that things move from high to low potential.
Interesting and informative. I'm not being sarcastic and was able to understand everything said.
well reliance industry is gong to acquire faradin , it will be interesting to watch applcations and commercialization in coming years .
Thankyou doctor for your beautiful explanation.
I can see Sodium batteries being used in homes to store electricity from solarpanels in the future because space and weight won't be a problem there. Another pro is that they don't overheat as fast and have a longer lifetime. Right now Li-Ion is not really that great of an investment when storing electricity in homes just because of their lifetime and cost.
I'm in love!
Main drawback of sodium ion batteries is anode graphite not suitable for sodium as anode which is fit for li-ion more research should be done on this However, I'm doing my Ph.D on sodium looking for more such vedios it's very interesting If you plan a discussion or debit about such topics with 3 to 4 members maybe we can share more knowledge
@stefanweilhartner4415
2 жыл бұрын
is graphite with silicon nanowires an option? it has a lot of room for storage.
@yarpenzigrin1893
Жыл бұрын
The current solution is to use hard carbon instead of graphite. That may not be the perfect solution but it works and is actually less expensive than graphite.
@kamrankhan-ku5hk
Жыл бұрын
Krishna katta Yes I'm interested to debate on this batteries talk. Because I have also research on this topic (M.phil).
Impressive… 👍
The GAC Aion EV now uses them.
Check out GWSO's sodium ion battery for EVs
Surely it opens up the options for home storage, especially as we won't need to replace them as often as lithium ion batteries used in home storage, due to their higher cycling ability!? Many home storage Lithium batteries having guarantees of only 10 years or around a few thousand cycles!
@ecospider5
2 жыл бұрын
It should be a great competitor to lifepo4
I wonder if charcoal made by pyrolyzing bamboo would work for one of the electrodes.
@yarpenzigrin1893
Жыл бұрын
It would. It's not the most sophisticated solution but it works.
While safety is an issue in battery tech, so too is temperature. For instance, if you try to charge lithium batteries at temperatures below freezing you will very rapidly destroy them. So anyone using them has to keep them warm. That can be a pain compared to working with even older battery types like lead acid that you can still charge at -20 degrees F, no problem. So a variety of different battery types will all have a place in the future of battery power.
@anastigmatix4119
2 жыл бұрын
LTO chemistry is not limited wrt temperature.
@johnwest7993
2 жыл бұрын
@@anastigmatix4119, a different chemistry for different applications.
How are they cheaper? How much is vanadium etc needed? Because these metsls do not have much reserves...
What is the recycling potential? That will become a factor down the road.
@jamesvandamme7786
2 жыл бұрын
Probably less than lithium because the ingredients are cheaper. But maybe they will last longer.
@Dickie2702
2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesvandamme7786 from what I have read they are recyclable and a much greener proposition. If CATL are involved they are the player in current battery tech.
@ecospider5
2 жыл бұрын
Good point. When the value of the minerals in an object are high the recycling happens naturally. If a sodium battery have nothing of value in it it might be hard to get recycling done. Maybe they should add more platinum:)
@Dickie2702
2 жыл бұрын
@@ecospider5 definately re-recyclable and way longer lifespan.
Shawty kinda fine 💯
Now if you could use brine in order to make these batteries it would be a massive help with the world water issue. All the new desalination plants that are being and will be built would create a huge amount of product that should not be pumped back into the oceans.
@anastigmatix4119
2 жыл бұрын
Geothermal wells offer a bountiful source of Lithium.
@ecospider5
2 жыл бұрын
Wow fantastic idea. Brine is a big problem. It would be great if it became valuable.
@strongme80
Жыл бұрын
@@ecospider5 Yeah there's a Desalination Plant here in Huntington Beach, CA that some people doesn't want activated. It's brine would be sold to widen its margin. I can't imagine brine would be expensive either.
So the sodium sulphur batteries had that little problem with needing a high temperature to operate and a ceramic electrolyte was feasible at the temperature of operation . Some commercial cylindrical batteries were made i beleive at 2 inch diameter or suchlike. But then the new lithium ion battery soon hit the market . Criticism of sodium sulphur related to the what ifs of a crash situation if used in electric cars . The vehicle fires of lithium ion powered vehicles have been serious incidents .
That one wheel is going to skin up a lot of people
Natural Gas battery ftw
hot nerd ooooh yer and Dr Laura isn't too bad either
silicon sodium battery will reach top of battery need
@wolfgangpreier9160
2 жыл бұрын
They will and already have their use cases. But are certainly not the best choice for everything.
CHARMING
Very pretty lady. I like..
@EpicWinz
8 ай бұрын
Wowwahweewah!
Sodium batteries are already being used in EV’s. I don’t know the long term results. VW’s and a couple of others are currently in production. The range might not be as far, but the temperature range is impressive. The charge time is less and the chemistry have great advantages. My main issue with EV’s in general is RANGE!!!! 500/charge at a minimum
That is weird. I feel I know more about sodium ion battery players just googling than the researcher in the field and journalist specializing in batteries.
@martinoriz7524
2 жыл бұрын
Unless you were abandoned in a desert island after you were born, with all the resources needed to survive and live forever without human interaction, then you have been working for mommy, daddy, and your temporary bosses, or you´ve been selling your body and soul and your products with a big smile in your face. Like we all do.
@wolfgangpreier9160
2 жыл бұрын
@@martinoriz7524 Or you are on the top of the food chain and dictate what all others have to smile at. Yes.
Thumb down just for unnecessary subtitles. They should be in the subchannel where they can be turned off.
@chesshooligan1282
2 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with the subtitles. She's clearly not a native speaker.
@ronaldgarrison5528
2 жыл бұрын
@@chesshooligan1282 The subtitles are obviously not for her. You're not making any sense.
Sodium ion batteries in 1910 tech were getting a 1000 miles in a single charge. So why not ev application and how is it still needing R&D after 110 years later?
@jamesvandamme7786
2 жыл бұрын
People want to go faster than ten miles an hour. Batteries are not rated in miles per charge.
@The_Quaalude
Жыл бұрын
Cars in 1910 were 💩
@philip5940
Жыл бұрын
To be sure there ain't any translation anomalies...... NiFe batteries were used likely around 1910 , that's Nickel Iron batteries. Na is for sodium, Ni is for nickel . Iron and ion get pronounced kinda similarly.
does she??
Sodium is about 10,000 times more plentiful than Lithium, so that's nice, also no nickel or cobalt needed either.
Once super charging is ubiquitous along with fast charging EVs, battery range will largely become irrelevant. A 200 mile range would be more than adequate. You need to rest anyway every 200 miles driving, so you can fast charge to 80% then. Also large scale storage is better suited to sodium ion technology, due to safety.
Bruh 2023 catl massproduction
Why can't we do Sodium Chloride batteries?? Just sodium chloride.
Imagine a few ions vs a carbon 3 triple bonds converting into single bonds. Bit of a long shot but would be A+ energy release/charge...?
indian company reliance is betting on it
Seems like every new battery technology has a major flaw in its use for car battery use. It's all hype with the catch phrase "Could one day replace lithium..." It's all investor attracting hype.
Sodium batteries will not be used for grid storage applications. Sodium batteries have about 1000 Cycles vs. 6000-10000 for LFP batteries at about the same price. That makes no sense. Sodium batteries will be used in all applications where price is everything and everything else is secondary. Vehicles, Trains, Boats in Asia, Africa and South America. Solar will use mostly LFP and some other tech like compressed air and redox flow. „Western“ vehicles in China, Japan, US and Europe will use LFP and NMC/NMA chemistries.
@channguyen3349
2 жыл бұрын
At 5:31 she says that sodium ion has longer lifetime than Lithium ion batteries.
@alanjenkins1508
2 жыл бұрын
There is not enough lithium in the world for all the predicted car batteries, let alone other uses such as grid storage.
@stefanweilhartner4415
2 жыл бұрын
@@alanjenkins1508 but in more modern batteries, the energy content increases which means less lithium per kWh. btw. we have enough lithium. it is in small amounts in sea water and concentrated brine is a waste product of desalination.
@anastigmatix4119
2 жыл бұрын
@@alanjenkins1508 Lithium is one of the top 3 most plentiful elements on Earth.
all I can see here is a very smart and beautiful young woman
@philip5940
Жыл бұрын
Yes, and the glasses may be intended as misdirection. There were one or two Get Smart TV episodes with a female Control researcher scientist and I think her cover was as a nightclub dancer or stripper ,,, not remember ing too well .
She clearly doesn't have much information about sodium ion batteries
@Planetside2Simon8989
2 жыл бұрын
Says the guy from the internet somewhere from India to a graduated doctor scientist
@ramakrishna5480
2 жыл бұрын
@@Planetside2Simon8989 where u from, Disney land?
@The_Quaalude
Жыл бұрын
@@ramakrishna5480 America bitch 🇺🇸
@philip5940
Жыл бұрын
It's for the layfolk.
I hear her speaking, but i didn't understand anything she said except "umm"
@anastigmatix4119
2 жыл бұрын
Self help: use the CC button.
@jeebus6263
Жыл бұрын
@@anastigmatix4119 thanks, that's not the issue though.
So sodium ion batteries are just like Lithium ion batteries only DIFFERENT!!! And Dogs are just like Cats only DIFFERENT!!!
@andyb7963
2 жыл бұрын
Different
@onmyworkbench7000
2 жыл бұрын
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@stephenowens5375
2 жыл бұрын
That's a diferent different 😁
@portman8909
2 жыл бұрын
Sodium is cheaper and more resourceful than lithium.
@onmyworkbench7000
2 жыл бұрын
@@portman8909 I had two 48 volt Sodium Ion Batteries that were suppose to last 18 to 20 years and they died in less than 4 years no more for me!
500Wh in 1kg as soon as possible otherwise whole this electromobility is a big Joke
Year old and completely dated - why dont these puff vids have a self destruct time limit