So You Want to do an Engine Swap? R2 8 Cummins

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Here's my thoughts and experiences of doing an engine swap and I do have a bit of extra focus on installing the R2.8 Cummins in a Jeep TJ.
The video is an overview for any build, so watch it and tell me what I'm missing. If you want advice on a build just drop a comment down below and I'll help out as much as possible.

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  • @oscarbear7498
    @oscarbear74986 ай бұрын

    Dam, that was too honest, wasnt ready for this 😢

  • @westleygladden7919
    @westleygladden79192 жыл бұрын

    I'm wanting to do this to my xj, your videos made me more exited for a swap!

  • @bugoutjeep8065

    @bugoutjeep8065

    2 жыл бұрын

    I hope you do some videos when you do the swap. I love seeing diesel swaps

  • @bugoutjeep8065

    @bugoutjeep8065

    2 жыл бұрын

    I hope you do some videos when you do the swap. I love seeing diesel swaps

  • @ThePuresmithroader
    @ThePuresmithroader20 күн бұрын

    This is a great video!!

  • @davidwolfman2485
    @davidwolfman24853 ай бұрын

    Thanks 😂 I m going with the 4.0 , still nice to dream 😅

  • @DurzoBlunts
    @DurzoBlunts2 жыл бұрын

    Great video, wish I could do it to my TJ. Maybe one day when the money tree grows haha

  • @bugoutjeep8065

    @bugoutjeep8065

    2 жыл бұрын

    Compared to a new vehicle it’s not as expensive. There are ways to do a cheaper swap if you take your time. I think a TDI swap could be a very good option too. All my vehicles are so high mileage and I wanted a relatively “new” drivetrain that was relatively easy to maintain. Rebuilding the 4.0 would be a great move too. The 4.0 is a probably top 10 engines imo. I love an in-line 6.

  • @Brolop19
    @Brolop19 Жыл бұрын

    what emissions systems come on it? do you have to deal with an egr and a doc?

  • @ryanf8386
    @ryanf83862 жыл бұрын

    Quick question, for a Wrangler TJ what did you have to do to modify the fuel system for the R2.8 swap.

  • @bugoutjeep8065

    @bugoutjeep8065

    2 жыл бұрын

    I just ran some (2) 3/8 rubber fuel lines to the tank from the Cummins supplied pump, 1 for fuel and 1 for return fuel. The return just empties in a different location and I used the factory fuel pump/level sender, but removed the actual fuel pump and screen and ran the line down to near the bottom of the tank. I think there's a regulator or check valve (I can't remember the correct name) between the fuel pickup line and the fuel going into the pump. I did not use my factory fuel tank, but it's still basically the same procedure. On newer tanks there might be more valves to deal with gasoline vapors, but those are not needed for diesel. Unless Cummins has changed their recommendations, you don't even need a lift pump for their fuel pump. I removed the flap in the fill port as well, because it isn't necessary and some diesel filling stations and some off-road fueling options have larger spouts that will be impacted by that flap. I showed some of the fuel setup here kzread.info/dash/bejne/g4Rr0KmwppqXorQ.html

  • @mikegoettina
    @mikegoettina2 жыл бұрын

    AS I NEED MY JEEP TO GET TO TOWN, I BIN OFF GRID OVER 35 YEARS

  • @bugoutjeep8065

    @bugoutjeep8065

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think Jeeps would be great for off-grid. We've gotta move so much equipment that my Jeeps are mostly for fun and IMO more convenient than all of the 4wheelers, everyone rides around. However I've used mine to move equipment many times especially during recovery stuff. I certainly dream of going off-grid, but it's complicated if I want to do all of the things I do now. I'd love to hear about your off-grid setup. Have you been doing anymore YJ swaps?

  • @calebdunham3209
    @calebdunham32092 жыл бұрын

    I’m sorry this comment has a lot of questions but I’m waiting for my r2.8 to get in and just trying to compare everyones set ups and personal opinions. What was the cooling package kit you chose for this? What tranny are you rocking? Having all parts needed how long was your install? After completion what are your thoughts on the Cummins.

  • @calebdunham3209

    @calebdunham3209

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also what of your undercarriage is original parts or done prior to planning on the Cummins swap??

  • @bugoutjeep8065

    @bugoutjeep8065

    2 жыл бұрын

    I bought the whole install kit from axis to install in my TJ with the ax-15. The kit has been great. It took me about 3 months but I was waiting for parts too. IMO I should have gone slower and pulled the tub and spent more time refreshing the chassis. I did replace a few worn components and replaced all of the brake lines. I absolutely love the r2.8, though part of me wishes I'd put this in a longer wheelbase vehicle that was more capable of towing and a stronger transmission behind the engine so I could tune the r2.8 and do some additional towing, because I need to tow fairly often and I'd love to see what this little engine could do. However the stock tune is great for the TJ but I'll still probably get a tune just cuz the torque really makes a Jeep feel the way a Jeep should have been powered and torque is simply fun. The thing I never anticipated before my build was the fear of having my Jeep stolen or wrecked since it has to be built and not really be bought.

  • @bugoutjeep8065

    @bugoutjeep8065

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also I've kept this Jeep mostly stock besides the r2.8 and peripherals. I currently have a 2.5in lift and 1in body lift. With currie front and rear track bars and an anti rock front sway bar. I have arb lockers front and rear with 3.73s with Dana 30/Dana super 35. Still haven't installed an exhaust and my skid plate and transfer case are stock though I'd like to do a tummy tuck and run an Atlas 2 5:1 with Tom woods driveshafts.

  • @3shooter40

    @3shooter40

    2 жыл бұрын

    Where can you buy the R2.8? Everywhere I look it says out of stock.

  • @calebdunham3209

    @calebdunham3209

    2 жыл бұрын

    I got mine from quick draw brand, it took 7 months to get it and I think it’s a little longer now

  • @davecamilleri9411
    @davecamilleri94112 жыл бұрын

    I have a built 97 TJ and I would really like to do a 2.8 cumins swap. One of my concerns is I would really like to keep the transmission in its current location due to already having an atlas and a klune vee doubler. Will the axis adapter allow this? I already have an aftermarket aluminum fuel tank and currie high pinion axles with air lockers and 4.56 gears. My biggest complaint with the 4.0 is fuel economy and it isnt the cost, just how much fuel I need to have and add. Great build!

  • @bugoutjeep8065

    @bugoutjeep8065

    2 жыл бұрын

    My Axis adapter keeps my ax-15 exactly at the OEM location. QuickDraw has some different adapters to look at too. Your build sounds awesome already. I agree that mpg has more to do with all the additional volume and fill ups required. The low end torque is really nice with the 2.8 though I wouldn't overlook the VW TDI if you don't need the 306 ft lbs (360 with the non EPA tune). However the easiest and cheapest path is to stick with 4.0, but that diesel grunt just brings a smile to my face. And the torque on the road is just incredible. I wouldn't expect 30mpg with your setup but you'll likely be around 20mpg highway or off road. I was at 11 mpg before so that's a massive improvement for be especially with more gear, higher suspension and roof rack I didn't have before my build.

  • @davecamilleri9411

    @davecamilleri9411

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bugoutjeep8065 thanks for the reply, my jeep is fairly heavy tipping the scales at about 5200 lbs and the 4.0 just doesn't seem to have the power to pull hills on the Wyoming roads. I am still pondering this swap.

  • @bugoutjeep8065

    @bugoutjeep8065

    2 жыл бұрын

    With the 4.56 ratio, you shouldn't have too much trouble moving that much weight around with the 2.8, but you will likely need the Axis Cooling Package. I towed a 2k lb when empty trailer and about 1k lbs of stuff on that trailer with 3.07s for a week or so and it pulled pretty well in the Jeep, but the Jeep couldn't brake quickly at all. Of course most V8 swaps would move you around too, but the MPG is still going to be rather low. I'd imagine 13 mpg with a V8 vs 20ish with the R2.8. The V8 would be more fun when you want to accelerate quickly, but the 2.8 does not accelerate very quickly, but it'll hold highway speeds pretty easily.

  • @bugoutjeep8065

    @bugoutjeep8065

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@davidcamilleridfs690 if I change from the ax15 I’m going to try and go 6 speed auto (even if I manually shift it) and there’s a rear cover/adapter that can save an inch or so from QuickDraw I think. I would definitely go gps speedometer it really simplifies stuff and it gives you some shorter transfer case options. There is a tach wire but often you’ll need some kind of signal adapter. I think eliminating the OEM pcm is the way to go. Also that’s mounted in an area where you need a bigger/dual battery and the pcm takes up space right there at the battery. I got the Dakota digital because my wife liked the look. Some other TJ guys didn’t care for the auto meter but imo it looks good. There’s a repowerowners forum and there’s a couple of really awesome gauge sets I’ve seen used with the r2.8. I didn’t know what I was doing at all with my gauges when I was first trying to get gauges and was trying to utilize the j1939, but that was the wrong path and there’s some awesome options out there including different Murphy gauges though I think those are really limited. I do not have AC, but almost everything I have heard suggests you have to relocate the compressor in the TJ frame. I only know of the $1500 bracket from axis that works, but I could be wrong. I try to pull my doors as soon as it looks warm and I didn’t know my ac worked for over a year since I owned the Jeep and I daily drove it and it was not incredibly cold inside and I feel like a slouch cuz my grandfather didn’t get AC in his Jeep until he was 97.

  • @davecamilleri9411

    @davecamilleri9411

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bugoutjeep8065 It seems quick draw has some more reasonable options than axis. They have a mid mount a/c kit for 695.00. I have a black soft top and it gets very hot in the summer where I live. My wife and I took a ride in the badlands last sunday and I had the a/c on because my window sliders don't let a lot of air in. I am still on the fence about spending the money for the conversion, I would love the better fuel economy and increased low end torque, I think I could re-use my new aluminum radiator, my biggest concern is that my wife is having a hard time getting in and out of my jeep as her health degrades, on the other hand I like hard core off road and really want to build a set of snow tracks for the jeep and with a diesel engine it would be much more practical.

  • @cornfedwyteboy2
    @cornfedwyteboy22 жыл бұрын

    What kind of gas mileage are you getting with the swap?

  • @bugoutjeep8065

    @bugoutjeep8065

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm getting low 20s. Before the roof rack I was getting mid to high 20s even with mud tires. I'm lifted too and I've regeared and rebuilt the axles so everything is new and tight. It's still better than the 11mpg I was getting with the 4.0L. I'm not tuned either so remember these engines are not tuned for economy but will likely see a 10% increase in economy tuned properly. Typically you're gonna see 40% better fuel economy with a diesel if the gas powertrain was properly setup. In my case the 4 L had to be setup for performance to handle highway and off-road.

  • @chadlloyd6247
    @chadlloyd62473 жыл бұрын

    Did you use the axis stuff?

  • @bugoutjeep8065

    @bugoutjeep8065

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes I did.

  • @Dieselpwr
    @Dieselpwr9 ай бұрын

    2 weeks done!

  • @dmb1881
    @dmb18812 жыл бұрын

    How much did you put into your build? I am curious to the cost because I am just considering purchasing the conversion kit that Axis offers on their website. It seems kind of outlandishly priced but after taking into consideration everything you mentioned it may be worth while to purchase that kit and have most everything you need.

  • @bugoutjeep8065

    @bugoutjeep8065

    2 жыл бұрын

    The kit was cheaper when I got it, but it's quality stuff that saved A BUNCH of time. I don't have my spreadsheet in front of me, but I think with the engine and kit it was in the vicinity of $16k. I didn't go with AC either. Of course that didn't include gauges, exhaust, considerations for dual battery or large single battery and several other items you'll likely want to add or need to repair. I have been driving my setup for over 3 years I think, though I've had the Jeep down for various maintenance and other builds, but the kit has been pretty much trouble free, besides where I rushed things too much. Also I probably did a few things wrong, because there just were fewer examples to go off of and I made a bunch of assumptions as a novice and in one instance installed some stuff in the wrong order and ended up messing up fairly substantially.

  • @dmb1881

    @dmb1881

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bugoutjeep8065 ah OK. That will probably be the route then. Thanks for the input it was extremely helpful. I'll hyu if I got any more questions.

  • @bugoutjeep8065

    @bugoutjeep8065

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dmb1881 yeah definitely. Ask anything, I've looked at so many different options for this build before I settled on this and I'm still looking at new options.

  • @davinhunt7558
    @davinhunt75582 жыл бұрын

    Lookin to swap my '98 6 cyl k1500

  • @bugoutjeep8065

    @bugoutjeep8065

    2 жыл бұрын

    That'll be a cool swap. What transmission and drivetrain are you planning?

  • @iggyvasconcelos7191
    @iggyvasconcelos71912 ай бұрын

    Wow, this video has deflated me. Now. I don't want to do a damn thing. At all.

  • @FakeNvwz
    @FakeNvwz2 жыл бұрын

    Guys hear me out, Im thinking of putting on of these engines in a 2006 mx5

  • @bugoutjeep8065

    @bugoutjeep8065

    2 жыл бұрын

    Do it. It would be very cool and you'd get 40 mpg and it would scoot, especially with a tune.

  • @oscarbear7498
    @oscarbear74986 ай бұрын

    If i had sum up this video after fully watching it, it seem your better off buildinh a car from scratch

  • @PeterHatch-mx7zc
    @PeterHatch-mx7zc Жыл бұрын

    The conversions are a drug ! Just as gear heads do plus its safe as long its not drug money

  • @jaunlopez9857
    @jaunlopez98572 жыл бұрын

    I want to put one in a bmw m3 now

  • @bugoutjeep8065

    @bugoutjeep8065

    2 жыл бұрын

    That would be cool. I saw someone put these in an older Volvo and with a few mods the thing could really move and get like 40mpg.

  • @mikegoettina
    @mikegoettina2 жыл бұрын

    SUCH A CITY BOY GET REAL I JUST DID A 351 AND AAUTO TRANS AND DRIVE SHAFTS ALL IN 3 DAYS FOR A YJ AND FOR LESS THAN 1000 BUCKS I PUT A GM 2.8 IN A YJ IN 1 WEEK FOR $3200

  • @bugoutjeep8065

    @bugoutjeep8065

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good job. The Duramax 2.8? That would be very cool. But here it's WAY more expensive than $3200 where I'm at in KY. I've got very little interest in V8s for the Jeeps because I've got a ZJ with a V8 already and it's a great for what it is, but I wanted something different in a TJ. My YJ truck I'm planning a 6BT with Allison. It's likely not gonna be cheap, but it'll easily pull most of my farm equipment once I swap in axles and brakes from a 1 ton and stretch it.

  • @guyokajima7018

    @guyokajima7018

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bugoutjeep8065 That YJ project sounds sick, would love to see some content on it. I'm dreaming stretching my old ranger and doing an r2.8 and SAS swap. Thanks for the video.

  • @bugoutjeep8065

    @bugoutjeep8065

    2 жыл бұрын

    Whenever I get a chance I'll start going over it, but right now that project is so far on the backburner, though I'm going to try and acquire some parts. I can buy an international 7.3 V8 diesel pretty cheap from a buddy, but I think ultimately I want to get a 6BT in there with an automatic. I may possibly even pull my 5.9 from my Dodge 2500 one day, if I find an acceptable replacement truck. Send me a link if you do your ranger, it would be a fun swap. When I drive my wife's Tacoma, I dream of swapping in a tuned R2.8 instead of the 4.0 in that truck. I think a 200 hp R2.8 with say a 6 speed auto would be AMAZING in a small truck. It wouldn't be fast, but the transmission wouldn't be constantly shifting. Now a 300+hp diesel in almost any truck would just simply be AWESOME. I keep hoping for a R3.8 one day, but I'm doubting those will ever be allowed in the US.

  • @jesseappleseedOG
    @jesseappleseedOG3 жыл бұрын

    You’re so cute 😘

  • @jesseappleseedOG
    @jesseappleseedOG2 жыл бұрын

    How are you going to have 3 min of you not being able to get up a hill 🤣

  • @bugoutjeep8065

    @bugoutjeep8065

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's a Jeep thing...

  • @NotaRobot_gif
    @NotaRobot_gif2 жыл бұрын

    This video is 30 mins of rambling! MPG?

  • @bugoutjeep8065

    @bugoutjeep8065

    2 жыл бұрын

    20 mpg to 30+ mpg depending on the setup and tuning. You can get over 40 if you want. I don't suggest doing this swap solely for mpg since fuel might be cheaper than the swap.

  • @blanksender7808
    @blanksender78089 ай бұрын

    10k for that 2.8? LOL. Way too rich for my blood

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