So, About That Final Shape Showcase...

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This one's a little different. No script. Just an honest conversation that follows up the previous video about how I feel about Destiny 2's future after watching the Final Shape showcase on 8.22.23. Let me know what you think in the comments, and subscribe for more thoughtful content like this if you enjoy it.
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  • @tonyred5166
    @tonyred516610 ай бұрын

    Understandable bro. I can see Bungie scrambling to make changes as of late, but for A lot of people it's too little too late.

  • @K1NGELJAYTV

    @K1NGELJAYTV

    10 ай бұрын

    For a lot of poeple it may be. Not sure if I'm in that category, but I'm definitely trending towards the pessimistic side with them right now. Things can change, though.

  • @paulcrisafi4415
    @paulcrisafi441510 ай бұрын

    During the showcase, they did a lot of not-so-subtle telling you how to feel about what they were presenting. In prior showcases, they did more "show" with little tell. It makes me feel like they're scrambling to make sales and hit social quotas, rather than produce an experience worthy of people's time.

  • @K1NGELJAYTV

    @K1NGELJAYTV

    10 ай бұрын

    One of the points I wish I made in the video is how Bungie’s talking to multiple audiences with each press release. It’s almost like they’re covering themselves with investors more than catering to their fans and… I don’t know if that’s a healthy thing, to try and do both at the same time. That almost always ends badly for the fans. Thanks for the comment man, this one was good.

  • @paulcrisafi4415

    @paulcrisafi4415

    10 ай бұрын

    @@K1NGELJAYTV The phrase "Too Big to Fail" comes to mind when thinking about modern Bungie. If they don't make money their investors might sell off their equity agreements, if they do their investors might request more of the same. The former is bad for established pillars of our little community like PvP since change is constant by ways of needing to innovate exotics and subclasses that might make the long-standing framework unenjoyable. The latter lends creedance to the "don't over deliver" stance that was taken in the last two years of content drops, which has alienated new as well as core and hardcore D2 players. I feel like a lot of people would do well to let things fail. If the game ended before a "satisfying end to the light and darkness saga" I still would have had a blast playing since Season 10/Shadowkeep, up until Lightfall. Right now it feels like a book which an author has no idea how to finish the story that would be meaningful and unique, so they're throwing in with whichever is the loudest activist group that will dogmatically defend their product. Sure, it makes money now, but the cost is killing the creativity and enjoyment that was long standing at the studio prior to Halo leaving for 343. The investors, the activism, and monetization are all a malignancy in the body of work they call Destiny. Edit: I'm not personally aggrieved by their conduct, Destiny was a hobby I picked up while the gyms were closed during the pandemic. But, they are fuckin up.

  • @UTxTheArchangel
    @UTxTheArchangel10 ай бұрын

    I'm not surprised they bottled the story bc the general manager of Destiny sat in front of a room full of ppl and pretty much told everyone the story isn't important to them, drip feeding content is, using FOMO and sunk cost to keep player retention is. When there is a 1hr long video of him talking about the game and why it is the way it is, its stomaching turning. That one video had me going from looking forward to Final Shape to "fuk this dude and the game.".

  • @K1NGELJAYTV

    @K1NGELJAYTV

    10 ай бұрын

    Man. I get that. There’s some things now that they’re implementing to address the FOMO, but it’s hard to not think or wonder about why they weren’t already in the game to begin with. Appreciate you taking a second to comment!

  • @superior_nobody07
    @superior_nobody0710 ай бұрын

    personally i enjoy what i saw, i'll definitely be pre ordering at some point, but i would like to hear a bit more first before i go down that route

  • @K1NGELJAYTV

    @K1NGELJAYTV

    10 ай бұрын

    I'm glad that you were able to watch it and still make that decision for yourself! I'm personally enjoying the Season of the Witch right now, so if the next season is as good as this one, then we might be in a good spot. I don't think I'm gonna preorder it though. lol. thanks for watching, man.

  • @jpwilson79
    @jpwilson7910 ай бұрын

    My fear for finale shape is that we are buying $100 loading screen. If the new destination is just reimagined versions of D1 planet areas of our destiny journey over the years then I won’t be surprised if final shape is nothing more then bungie selling D1 content back to the community.

  • @K1NGELJAYTV

    @K1NGELJAYTV

    10 ай бұрын

    Destiny 2, The Beta. Lol. Jokes aside, that’s been a recurring theme for a few people I’ve talked to since this video released. The worst part is that I can see that happening. Hoping for the best though… maybe they’ll surprise us. Thanks for commenting!

  • @billy_cross5580
    @billy_cross558010 ай бұрын

    Kayden and I won’t lie when I heard him speak give me I’m like oh my God is game I forgot I’m gonna see Kay play Bestie want in Spanish right there in a tower hill talk to you no matter what class you are he’s gonna say something to you almost like it’s just off and he has a standard run shit from the tower and he wishes he could go out adventuring with you which is odd because I think you know, galore in memory of Keita do is always Off on cloud one and rent for another doing crazy shit, but here is the wife that that was out that was fun nostalgic

  • @billy_cross5580
    @billy_cross558010 ай бұрын

    Friend, you can always be out in a creature of a guarantee they’ll be a dozen people making a Destiny the entire story that I have every cop scene in class, but every voice actor park Lego movie telling you exactly what happened and you can watch it from beginning to end it find out how tall ended what the end of the story is is

  • @epegaming4495
    @epegaming449510 ай бұрын

    Hmm just speaking o your thoughts of the supers but i truly believe the titans got the most imaginative super for warlocks they got a nurffed version of their d1 super just not being ale to self rez but pretty much shot for shot copy. With hunters having a somewhat new super but basically a different version of the d1 super now just not being a roaming super but giving us a Teleport. With the titans being brand new and yet also looking the most broken in a team environment but other than that. jaded D1 player from the start here. lost all my friends that i started this journey on to other games. so not gonna lie Becoming Legend sounds lonely and boring asf now a days. Remanant/League here i come

  • @K1NGELJAYTV

    @K1NGELJAYTV

    10 ай бұрын

    So the more I think about it, I just think Bungie feels that weapons are Titan's "identity" for supers, so they just lean into it. I still don't think it's that imaginative, but I might change my mind as we get closer. I guess we'll see. But I will say this. I'm VERY GLAD Warlocks didn't get self-res back. I don't ever want to deal with that again lolllll. Thank you for watching, my guy. Here's to hoping the D2 journey becomes worth it as we get close to the end. 🙏

  • @billy_cross5580
    @billy_cross558010 ай бұрын

    Give the titan a big fucking ask for I have a weapon not a sword and it’s a big act. That’s what he should have instead of a sword and bad ax head from inheritability to throw edge bright do use it as a range weapon like the sword does that the warlock hi Santa warlock had with the one that is pretty fucking devastating actually at the range weapon I can’t think what it’s called but if they gave the tighten a big accident that could be thrown like three times for after charging boundary cool but yeah, it does seem kind of like a mermaid saw pretty much all of strand

  • @billy_cross5580
    @billy_cross558010 ай бұрын

    Go watch the showcase or keep up with what’s going on when the time comes and somebody makes a new video with destiny debate with all of the mom not scenes I’ll watch that to find out. Just want to fuck happened you kind of given some of my spoilers, and because I haven’t watched anything, but I always suspected we were going to go inside the traveler. I just didn’t realize it meant inside the drawer. I thought it meant through the traveler to get to the different location.

  • @palindromeadept7937
    @palindromeadept793710 ай бұрын

    Small small disagreement on the new supers bit around 4:13 . Didn't warlocks just get radiance from d1? Like titans are getting a brand new super, sure it's throwing another weapon, but it's something new at least.I honestly don't remember what hunters got, but it's probably something new Rq edit, forgot to mention, I wholeheartedly agree with the rest of the bits that I've watched.

  • @K1NGELJAYTV

    @K1NGELJAYTV

    10 ай бұрын

    You know what’s wild? I’m not a Warlock main so at the time I recorded this (which was immediately afterwards) I was focused on the “solar buddy” part and it wasn’t until I watched it again that I saw that 😂 That’s a fair point. I guess each class has a bit of recycling at this point, to a degree lol. Yo, thanks for commenting AND not being afraid to disagree with me. I enjoy those convos because sometimes, I’m wrong lol

  • @billy_cross5580
    @billy_cross558010 ай бұрын

    Just by the way, if you never made that joke like I made the job straight from dance Paris that’s the one I never get Doug the riser wire if you’re if you didn’t make the jumper never bought everything because you’re like screw it I’m not spending your several hundred dollars to get everything for the PS4. I already just bought it for the PS3. I drove Braden and D2 so I didn’t have the one on the fifth floor. I only ever looked at the trial well right now PlayStation Now with PlayStation plus extra at least I don’t know about it at all it’s fragile it’s like 57% off the entire collection $19.79 perfect for the one and each of the expansions so you know what I’m going to be doing for a while

  • @billy_cross5580
    @billy_cross558010 ай бұрын

    All my characters just like I did not to off we wanna go in D2 that they were in spring do you want is actually a hard game did you is Candyland comparatively take the cosmodrome or the tank is bright everybody knows I mean you go to the cover girl if you’re geared up good you can literally one shot that tank pretty much over and over again just keep grabbing glimmer and tell your full on forget Send nothing bothers you there you can totally ignored by everything else is there although generally your Kellett you get back to fresh over next time or drop the tank you drop a special on it rent for a bit right you go there and that’s the one and it’s all taken There’s no glimmer box for taking care of a fight for a new character I mean I’ll admit I was at you know not saying you could kill the tank on a new character you’re not be too bought within three weeks or gameplay after deleting all my did your characters I was back there driving Playing with built-in, grinding and easily able to solo that thing no problem big tire area B1 B2, your new player is there in Grantsville you can do anything you do not die do you want you better place bark because you will die and often the name is better go play The One watch the final shape when somebody makes I’ll video bringing gather all the countries that’s what I’m gonna do that are buying that expansion and being pissed off at Janet Bungie I’m just going to watch somebody else pull all the cops things out

  • @billy_cross5580
    @billy_cross558010 ай бұрын

    Dude, I don’t really think people are complaining about the true that much I mean sure if there are outliers complaining about aspects of the two bottom majority of the complaint regarding D2 is the over monetization they agree Jeff I mean it’s not even like they’re just asking a lot of money. It’s the way the monetization is designed Jeff Outside the cash shop just a game monetization go look at what’s offered for this game and how goddamn confusing it is to figure out what you need to buy. I’m on PlayStation and I’m telling you it’s hard to decide what you need right unless you’re just buying agent expansion as they come out but if you’ve been away a while and you’re trying to figure it out there’s like three or four different ways you can get caught up in various ways do you want on the other hand there’s the collectors off I mean… Do you wan collection normally at 60 bucks it gives you the darpa Lone, the taken king and the rise of iron all in one package And the other things that are there are odd that made it at all and they’re quite clear what they are and by the way again if anybody’s looking to get up-to-date on PlayStation and also you can play it on a PS 5D one it’s $19 and like $.79 right now discounted because of PlayStation plus if you get the whole game no Minersville Steve like you don’t get the armor of the shader deal Cesar that you don’t need me do you get you get the game and the campaign expansions for 20 bucks?

  • @billy_cross5580
    @billy_cross558010 ай бұрын

    I mean OK why do you need to get grams at all except to say why did you called them? You might get something better than one pangram as it might be blue you might get a purple but you also might not do I just get materials identifying ICE I didn’t play during rise of iron so a lot of the current stuff and the one I never played.

  • @billy_cross5580
    @billy_cross558010 ай бұрын

    But do you want weapons that never made it into D2 I am unfortunately I deleted all my character, so I’m gonna have to wait till I’m level 40 top play that you know with those weapons again buy some of those D1 weapons that never made it are fun

  • @billy_cross5580
    @billy_cross558010 ай бұрын

    Trading this for a year it’s going on nine years R&B to stop at that many years but still they’ve been creating for a long time. I mean when you watch a sitcom on TV and and there are a bunch of like that when you watch a physical that has three people. Oh you know but 20s either living together or spending lots of time together you know that comes from threes company from decades and decades ago it will be More diverse today it might be all black it might be the mixture of races there might even be again all white but it’s the same story being recycled they just change it up enough TV does it all the time Star Trek the next generation well that that one has a lot more shows but you take some of the smaller productions they take the concepts there’s one the Reaspec I am halfway to half black half the race is black and white on the right side white on the left side, the other half of the white on the right side black on the other and they’ve been boring for centuries they don’t even remember what the war is about except that there to diametrically opposed groups of people And inspirational Star Trek Walt the enterprise car enterprise the dove mom, one of the more modern remakes. Does that same story but they have some other more modern diametrically opposed issue that they been fighting about so long babe they don’t even know what it’s about AirPods Brian Griese dealerships in space regular restaurants, one of them or both I forget and take some dinner home world where they find out they entire world is Brent destroyed the same thing Kurt did in the first enterprise. I’m in the first Star Trek the stories just get recycled and reused. Don’t think that game developers after dial eight years are going on nine years are in recycling in reusing skills and abilities and Kontan free skin and shit hell borderlands the game that’s been going around Ruston coming Parkway there’s like how many thousands of weapons but I really balls down to a few work by the heart types With just random changes to the web but when you pick it up it’s lazy as what it is. It’s just lazy but they’re going to do it because it’s way cheaper to grab some preconceived ass that we’ve already built with the time they abilities and skills or the weapon in South Bend just rescan it change a little bit and put it back out cheaper than building it from scratch every time and it’s also creatively hard to keep coming up with new things. I thought friend was pretty cool, but anything that mimics Brandon just gonna look like they’re being lazy

  • @billy_cross5580
    @billy_cross558010 ай бұрын

    Dude and even better thing to do and I didn’t watch the showcase and I’m not going to. I’m already getting tired of Bungie and that’s way too but mostly I’m tired of it because from B1 to D2 the focus the drive went from making a game that was fun and making it more fun fixing the things people been light to make it even more fun, it went to making a game that keeps people busy grinding away at various pursuits, and Delvin expansion comes out in the hopes that in between, and then my friend money at the cash shop, which they’re drawn through on a regular basis because they have in grams that have to be decoded That but at Bever store that’s Pantaya reason that and Graham was introduced to the game. What is the kid you to open the cash store at least on a daily basis everything and that’s big do revolves around getting you used to spending money. Whether it’s cash to buy silver or your dust or is your glamour I mean look at brownies. You have to buy brownies, so I’m coming to you you’re asking me to go complete that bad then you’re making me spend glimmer devise a task from you in the one you just acquired. It doesn’t cost anything at least for a new buyer right I like I said I deleted all my character Irina extracted Aniol exotic bad because two of them are level 4300+ kennel so I got work gear I cut off my mortgage it was it was a difficult button to push because there’s year was all upgraded. Do you know yellow bars around everything I wasn’t able to get everything off of everybody, but I wanted to start out with an entirely new perspective on the one and I’m already in love compared to beat Joe do you want is the shit in my opinion it’s where did you should’ve gotten one they should’ve stuck with it and kept the story going in the walk I don’t know why they had to make an entirely new game. I really don’t understand it all I know well I suppose because that game was originally written for Rob two generations ago hardware maybe general patching it up the current was difficult. I have no idea what it what is OK on a PS five so I won’t lie. I don’t care I’m gonna play it. I have three brand new characters one of each class and I’m going to play each of them off the floor to get them all geared up and see what I can accomplish whether or not I can still get a PVP match or are strikes there are people all over the tower. I made a wall level from just starting out of the level 40, but seriously compare them to monetization method cash shop for one that’s been through cash shop here in the grass of integrate Jeff, the backpack, consumer, do you wanna thing you usually have to buy a bundle or wait for that thing to come up on rotation seem to meet a quick look at Doug you could buy any item individually in the D1 cash shop Just had to buy a bundle of vial of silver and then get the item and buy it right I I I’m not really certain there weren’t any like they were all bundled shit where you got a buy the whole bottle we get that one item but I didn’t notice that, but in any case, did it look like a way more consumer friendly like you’re at the grocery store looking at the boxes of five certain food you want deciding which one you want that’s what the cash shop look like it look like you can buy the exact box that you want Now they were the Lulu boxes that’s actually has Luke boxes single a bundle of three and a bundle of five and then it looks like she has a rotating shade or some kind of special shade or maybe I don’t know I didn’t. I didn’t buy it off for the Lou boxer, so I don’t know what channel but those are easily avoidable, because they’re not on the kiosk where everything else says kiosk is shader and then emo. It’s at horn been sparrows I’m ornaments. They’ll all all the various things new by to customize. There were closer than some other stuff. I didn’t look that quote but then look at the endgame currently monitor patient All the things you need to buy stuff and game on desperate to most of that boils downtown off one currency in Destiny want and it’s legendary marks why do I need 14 currency to buy each and every day why do we need engrams for every goddamn different than you do I mean OK why do you need to get grams at all except to say why did you call them? You might get something better than 1 PM grandmas it might be blue you might get a purple.

  • @QTEila

    @QTEila

    10 ай бұрын

    Did you have a stroke? Because you managed to write something COMPLETELY incomprehensible to the human psyche.

  • @Tunderhill06
    @Tunderhill0610 ай бұрын

    I am incredibly not excited for The Final Shape, the lack of emotion after this showcase worries me for this expansion. The Cayde 6 reveal feels like a tone-deaf response to people complaining about the issues of the games. It also feels like all the work into the character of Crow was a complete waste, I am almost willing to bet money that his character is not gonna pop up again with any story elements for the next couple of years now. Once again it felt like everything was put for the Warlocks and Titans was a total oh crap we have three classes and not two. The traveler map feels lazy "It shows where you've been in your journey" feels like an excuse to not make new maps in the game. This season of The Witch feels like setting up the new villain for the next few years, cause that whole "dark timeline" had Eris as the main bad with all the witch powers...

  • @K1NGELJAYTV

    @K1NGELJAYTV

    10 ай бұрын

    It could definitely lead to Eris being a wild bad guy in one of the later episodes. And although she's one of my favorite characters, it makes sense. Almost EVERY other timeline had her becoming the big bad, didn't it? I don't want to harp on the bad (I did that enough on the video lol), but there's a lot of areas here for improvement, and I'm going to hope they surprise us with something incredible. We'll see. Thanks for commenting, man!

  • @billy_cross5580
    @billy_cross558010 ай бұрын

    Heather and from your title of it for the Nother I’m quitting video and good I don’t like D2 anymore the Casavana station, both endgame and out of game and with cash or internal currency when compared to be won it’s ridiculous, so I’m playing D1 but I didn’t feel like you know I had to go out and make a video for the world explaining myself make a lot of people feel the same way about the Jew Dr. Jeff Dolittles people should go jump in the Dewon and look what it is today. Look at the average shop notice you can buy individually pretty much anything in there. There’s only one currently so her father is glimmer, but you don’t really use large glimmer for anything because simple things that you spent all of your glimmer on my fountains are free you just require them and you could see exactly what each of them are before you get them, but it doesn’t matter because they’re free. I didn’t cost shit, that’s good you want to you should be ashamed of where they went entire day revolves around you spending both and Dave and cash currency and keeping you there and tell you do where is I think the one is more revolved around fun gameplay

  • @billy_cross5580
    @billy_cross558010 ай бұрын

    Dude, the franchise hasn’t even existed nine years and it still like a couple to three weeks away from Bethany ones release date do you have a fun playing a game 10 years you haven’t even been playing at nine years maybe if you played tomatoes or something you might have nine years in, but there’s no way you been playing it for 10 years I get it though it’s a Saginaw that was meant for savanna decade started in B1 Get all do you want started? It made intros Joanne showed us going to the moon talked about funeral with the speaker on the darkest call Megan it’s Nick back and I didn’t read it that the traveler one say we’re probably not gonna survive blah blah blah and here. We are eight years later The store is the best paint to use in the same ass that’s the same video clips the same intros where we land on Mars and go look at the traveler for the first time I close as a coming into the Smith’s from my bank. I am not Charlie sure what’s going on there, but either way, the saga started in the one I wish you would’ve finished in the wind with the same monetization. Do you want to have that day which I realize it’s not how it started the one was rough I wanna came out there’s a lot of things wrong but over three expansions, they got it, right And they left it alone monetarily there’s no agree just want activation you don’t have to go to the Navajo store for anything unless you want to buy something you don’t have to spend your in game currencies excepted by the better items but the daily routine shit that you need is free, I’m not even sure what glimmer is good for I am burnt back playing long enough to know what I’m going to spend it on. I’ve been capped out at 25,000 glimmer since I started and I spent so much immediately replaced them all when I kill. Seriously dude if you’re set up with problems and need to go play, do you want for a while check it out, do you want David motel you’re playing and you won’t realize first fall you’ll realize real quick do you want it is harder. Do you have to think about what you’re doing you don’t just run and smash and kill everything you literally have to work for it you’ll figure out that a lot of things that you take for granted in the June that you don’t like you just put up with it like having to buy brownies don’t exist, a lot of things that are a pain in the ass on a PS3 like I wanna go to orbit before going somewhere they don’t matter anymore cause the hardware is so much better than it did. It just doesn’t take any time I mean I’ll be at fries and take five or 10 seconds to go to orbit and then drive 10 seconds to go down to the next planet or the next location so that being something that every thought was great in B2 that you don’t have to do that it doesn’t matter anymore because we have new hardware, you’ll you’ll find lots of things that you didn’t even realize you don’t like in D2 don’t exist in D1

  • @DC430
    @DC43010 ай бұрын

    I mean... by the look of their staff, half of them can't even figure out if they're boys or girls. Figuring out a good close to the franchise is way too much to ask from them

  • @K1NGELJAYTV

    @K1NGELJAYTV

    10 ай бұрын

    Mannn let me say… I’m a big fan of giving respect to people. I’m a BIGGER fan of matching energy, especially when what others are doing has no bearing on my life whatsoever. How about next time, we stick to games instead of throwing unwarranted shots at folks trying to live their lives… cool? That being said… I appreciate you watching. Hopefully they figure out a good close before it’s REALLY too late, you know?

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