Sneak Preview of KISS Sidewinder 2.0!

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Jonathan meets up with Patrick Widmann of XDEEP/KISS at DEMA to talk about the new KISS Sidewinder 2 rebreather and what has been changed from the original version.
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  • @nickjohnson410
    @nickjohnson4106 ай бұрын

    From a pressurized wooden barrel with a glass view port to this piece of insane engineering... crazy.

  • @benderbendingrodriguez420

    @benderbendingrodriguez420

    5 ай бұрын

    Never really thought about it like that. Crazy

  • @billybuttons4298
    @billybuttons42986 ай бұрын

    I've been super excited to see what they come up with as far as an XDEEP harness specifically designed for the SW. The little tidbit about possibly having the counter lung integrated is very exciting.

  • @SpclOps20
    @SpclOps203 күн бұрын

    _”In Philadelphia, it's worth Fifty Bucks"_

  • @CubanazoJB
    @CubanazoJB6 ай бұрын

    Yes !! I can’t wait to get my hands on it !!

  • @ivoryjohnson4662
    @ivoryjohnson46626 ай бұрын

    Finally a peek at the SW 2

  • @Yggdrasil42
    @Yggdrasil426 ай бұрын

    Thanks! I loved seeing a bit more about the changes they've made compared to the 1. I just wish it came out already. :D Was hoping to start CCR training in 2024 and would prefer not to buy a SW1 in the mean time just to sell it in a years time.

  • @jonathansantos2271
    @jonathansantos22716 ай бұрын

    Looks clean and strong styled. Thank you💌 I wonder if there are neon colors styles for deep water courtesy?

  • @brianmcdonaugh6370
    @brianmcdonaugh63703 ай бұрын

    So clean looking.

  • @EKKsoldier622
    @EKKsoldier6226 ай бұрын

    Been waiting for this video!

  • @pehtoori
    @pehtooriАй бұрын

    Its a beauty!

  • @Raphael_NYC
    @Raphael_NYC6 ай бұрын

    Very well done. Thank you. raphael nyc

  • @chisaquaticvibe6524
    @chisaquaticvibe65246 ай бұрын

    You're back!!!!!!!

  • @napoleon6221
    @napoleon622127 күн бұрын

    I’m not even a snorkeler lol, but I still find this stuff really interesting

  • @pricediver
    @pricediver6 ай бұрын

    Hopefully you had a great thanksgiving!

  • @BlueWorldplus

    @BlueWorldplus

    6 ай бұрын

    I did! Hope you did too!

  • @mjb3190
    @mjb31906 ай бұрын

    wow thats so cool. I want one!!

  • @kenmh7357
    @kenmh7357Ай бұрын

    Gonna buy one and get Cert next year

  • @erlandsonkim
    @erlandsonkim6 ай бұрын

    Excellant presentation!

  • @BlueWorldplus

    @BlueWorldplus

    6 ай бұрын

    Patrick is really good at explaining stuff!

  • @Biodoc100
    @Biodoc1006 ай бұрын

    Rebreathers are such cool pieces of technology. This, is cool among the cool...

  • @leeow3n
    @leeow3n6 ай бұрын

    oh sh!t the single tank configuration is beautiful

  • @benderbendingrodriguez420
    @benderbendingrodriguez4205 ай бұрын

    Im sure all the technicals are better/improved, i mainly noticed just how damn sleek the design was. Very compact and not at all cumbersome, with a modern design easy for all. Kudos to the team who designed it

  • @divemasterdavid595
    @divemasterdavid5956 ай бұрын

    Saw myself in the background😂

  • @divemasterdavid595

    @divemasterdavid595

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Navy1977 several times throughout. I was with the guy in the yellow hat talking to the xdeep representative.

  • @sammoyers905
    @sammoyers9056 ай бұрын

    Great video Jonathan. Question. I the back mount configuration, I see the 80 cuft Diluent tank, but where is the O2 tank mounted? A WOW they will have a solenoid module to transform the whole shebang into an eCCR... Very interesting. I hope they are available for July, looks like I will be on the waiting list..... 🙂

  • @BlueWorldplus

    @BlueWorldplus

    6 ай бұрын

    The 80 cu ft is BOTH for diluent and bailout. This is a configuration for the rebreather for more recreational use (open water, relatively shallow), where you don't need two 80 cu ft tanks. The O2 bottle still goes across your butt like the sidemount configuration.

  • @BlueWorldplus

    @BlueWorldplus

    6 ай бұрын

    I personally LOVE the idea of using the sidewinder like this. In something like a more traditional back-mount rebreather (say, Revo, AP, Meg, etc.) you have a small bottle of dill on your back, but it's not large enough for bailout. So you carry a "sling bottle" of bailout. This bottle is hanging off of you on one side or the other, makes you out of balance, gets in the way of a camera, etc. With this configuration of the sidewinder, it moves that big bottle to your back, symmetrical, out of the way. The only downside is that your bailout and your dill have to be the same mix. But for 99% of recreational rebreather diving, that's fine and normal.

  • @sammoyers905

    @sammoyers905

    6 ай бұрын

    @@BlueWorldplus I like this myself for recreational mode. Thanks for knocking my head out of the muck with the O2 question. 😊

  • @dwaynesykes694

    @dwaynesykes694

    6 ай бұрын

    As a strong believer of the "complacency kills" theory, I'm not a fan of eCCR so I couldn't care less about that, but the rec/tech versatility is truly a game changer. No more awkward sidemount for boat dives on a mixed diving trip. Imagine a week in florida for caves w/ a couple lionfish control boat dives thrown in, or a trip south of the border for some charming cenotes with a couple boat dives throw in to experience the reefs. That said, I've never been a fan of lack of diluent redundancy on the KISS, but it's easy enough to strap a 3L bottle alongside the O2 and plumb it into the MAV/ADV, then have a QC6 whip on a Shrimp BOV which also permits adding gas to the loop. 3L dil also takes over wing inflation and drysuit gets a dedicated air/argon bottle. Provides redundant buoyancy control and redundant dil. The only single point of failure at that point is the O2, which _could_ be remedied by having a second O2 bottle w/ compensated first stage plumbed into a pure MAV (no CMF) which also eliminates the uncompensated O2 first stage depth limitation, but that's a point I think very few need to worry about including myself. Personally I'm fine with going SCR with dil-only in the _hopefully unlikely_ event of an O2 system failure or bailing out to OC.

  • @Mrveescuba
    @Mrveescuba6 ай бұрын

    i have time to start saving

  • @cavediver74
    @cavediver746 ай бұрын

    Edd told me almost a year ago why fix it if it isn’t broken. I was not CCR certified at the time. I had read several of the reported advantages of the SW2 vs SW1. I now am sidewinder certified with 50 hours on the unit. I am also thinking for myself when would I ever need the SW2? I have the syntactic foam insulation on my unit but could still see myself wanting the SW2 in water below 55 degrees or so. I can also see myself wanting it if I were planning a total dive time beyond about 5 hours or so in the water I regularly dive (68 degrees F) but many many people have told me the unit is good to 6 hours in the water I dive and I have done 4 hours on the unit with color changing sorb and been amazed at how little color change had occurred in the exhalation side and none in the inhalation side. In fact, for me anyway, the SW1 is limited by the 2L O2 tank not sorb. SCR and a drop oxygen bottle can extend that. I can see this unit for very very long dives though. I can also appreciate it for a dual CCR setup where you have little or no bailout gas to speak of.

  • @BlueWorldplus

    @BlueWorldplus

    6 ай бұрын

    My understanding is that most of the changes came about from the need to get the unit through CE testing so the unit can be sold in Europe. They impose extreme "worst case" circumstances during testing (for the amount of CO2 that needs to be scrubbed and the temperature, for example) and then make measurements from there. Under the typical operating conditions that most people use the SW1 for, it performs perfectly well. However, it would struggle in the CE testing. So the answer is that for 99% of us diving the SW1, we really don't need a SW2, unless you happen to like some of the features that were added. But going forward, the SW2 is a good evolution of the unit. Just as you probably won't sell your car just to get the newer version, unless the new car has something you really want.

  • @dwaynesykes694

    @dwaynesykes694

    6 ай бұрын

    Reduced work-of-breathing and better sorb utilization efficiency is helpful for going deeper. Right now the meg is the go-to for expeditions with those requirements, but it's quite bulky by comparison. Imagine a cave like Roaring River Spring where there's a restriction then it opens up and is borehole down to at least 500ft/150m with no end in sight.

  • @philippl.7784
    @philippl.77846 ай бұрын

    How can you clean the isolation chamber? I mean if air can enter you will get bacteria into it as well, so it is possible to disassemble it for cleaning?

  • @BlueWorldplus

    @BlueWorldplus

    6 ай бұрын

    You can dunk the whole thing in water to clean it.

  • @grantmacdonald4838
    @grantmacdonald48386 ай бұрын

    Are the scrubbers interchangeable to allow rotation between shorter dives? Plans to offer the new wireless/solid state sensors?

  • @BlueWorldplus

    @BlueWorldplus

    6 ай бұрын

    I believe the scrubber canisters themselves are identical, but as left and right you would probably have then rigged differently. Not sure why you would want to rotate them. What many people do is only change out the exhale side after a short dive and leave the largely unused inhale side packed.

  • @grantmacdonald4838

    @grantmacdonald4838

    6 ай бұрын

    @@BlueWorldplus 2*1.5 hour dives seems like a situation where rotating cannisters would make sense to optimize scrubber use. In the backmount configuration it doesn't look like there is much rigging involved. I'd be curious to see the unit setup for sidemount.

  • @Whitey_RN
    @Whitey_RN3 ай бұрын

    Square canisters…..I’m thinking about a plate to mount two on each side inline so I stay as low profile as possible.

  • @alfainc5868
    @alfainc58686 ай бұрын

    Nothing on there website, when will it be available?

  • @BlueWorldplus

    @BlueWorldplus

    6 ай бұрын

    June/July 2024 timeframe.

  • @malakcoccode3882
    @malakcoccode38826 ай бұрын

    great i just bought old model :( ......are there parts compatible to upgrade without buyng all ?

  • @BlueWorldplus

    @BlueWorldplus

    6 ай бұрын

    The counterlung and the breathing loop/mouthpiece are the same. But there will be a good used market for the sidewinder 1 for a while. It's a very good rebreather.

  • @Waanderfullife
    @Waanderfullife6 ай бұрын

    I wonder what the lag time will be to get instructor trainers/trainers up to speed on the new model?

  • @BlueWorldplus

    @BlueWorldplus

    6 ай бұрын

    I would expect very short indeed, because functionally, it's almost the same. There are a few small things you would do differently (such as draining water) but most of the differences are in construction, not use.

  • @dwaynesykes694

    @dwaynesykes694

    5 ай бұрын

    At least one North Florida cave diver/instructor has tested the prototype and either already has or soon will have the first release candidate.

  • @elliotgaming2243
    @elliotgaming22434 ай бұрын

    Can it go back mounted doubles?

  • @BlueWorldplus

    @BlueWorldplus

    3 ай бұрын

    In theory yes.

  • @cbakopanos
    @cbakopanos2 ай бұрын

    Does the new version need diver recertification?

  • @BlueWorldplus

    @BlueWorldplus

    2 ай бұрын

    I don't think so but not totally sure.

  • @1jfraga
    @1jfraga6 ай бұрын

    i can’t believe Mike sold kiss. 😳. However I think Xdeep is the PERFECT company to have them. They have always meant to be together imo.

  • @stevedenruyter4902

    @stevedenruyter4902

    6 ай бұрын

    Why not? Now he has time to play around making up new stuff 😂

  • @BlueWorldplus

    @BlueWorldplus

    6 ай бұрын

    Mike likes inventing stuff more than mass production. It was a fairly solid business decision to sell the company to a larger organization that could do mass production at a lower cost in higher volume. Now Mike has more time to dive, explore and invent, which is what he loves to do.

  • @dylonswiatek
    @dylonswiatek6 ай бұрын

    Well I guess I need to work a little harder at getting a job

  • @ahmetzogu3289
    @ahmetzogu32895 ай бұрын

    I would like the stats on how many victims there will be in the first year.

  • @BlueWorldplus

    @BlueWorldplus

    5 ай бұрын

    99.9% of the time, diving accidents--including rebreather accidents--end up being diver error, not equipment failure.

  • @ahmetzogu3289

    @ahmetzogu3289

    5 ай бұрын

    I didn't like the screw on head. @@BlueWorldplus

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