Small Engine Starter Drive Setup THIS WORKS GREAT!
Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары
This is the hot setup for starting small engines also eliminating the possibility of injury when engines start. It spins the Honda 350x over like crazy where them can be stubborn to get running at times. I always wanted to build one of these dog clutch starter drives but with the broken leg made this idea even more practical. One wouldn't even need a lathe to build one, just use/grind some washers for spacers and weld things up. I included a bunch of footage where several fails happened but as usual - very educational, another learning experience! Here's a link to the awesome drill I am using.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01... It features High efficiency brushless motor delivers up to 57% more run time over brushed with amazing torque. Several quick notes I should of included too - To final test I left the machines outside overnight where it was below zero. The drill worked great (better). One other note - those machines do have a compression release. The kicker can be held down slightly and then released, that did work every time.... Just didn't show that on camera. Thanks everyone for stopping by, Jeff.
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I miss people like you I'm older now if whatever reason time happens life happens they're all gone so I find You video very refreshing
Your ingenuity is an inspiration, thank you for your videos. Even as someone who knows nothing about these topics its incredibly entertaining from start to finish. Best wishes for a fast recovery and keep with your passion!
You have a lot of knowledge and the guts to try anything. It makes for some great videos. I like to learn new stuff too and there is no shortage of that here!
@2jeffs1
5 жыл бұрын
I thank you so much!
@spelunkerd
5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I love watching creative minds at -work- play.
Your channel is what makes KZread great. Glad to see your on the mend. Keep on making quality videos.
Glad you're still kicking! Thanks for sharing your knowledge & insight. Keep it coming.
I knew exactly what I needed to make something like this up, but I never would have known about the starter drive part that is fairly cheap and easily found in an old auto parts store. Thank you for posting this.
I'm just trying the idea for an electric starter for lawn mowers. Loved your enthusiasm & creativity !
Hey Jeff great vid! I used to love to ticker around with any machine I could get my hands but after a divorce, a heart attack a shattered ankle and a never ending lack of ambition I don’t do so much anymore. So it was really great to see some of your videos, keep it up!
Thanks for the education. Much appreciated. You're looking much better. Glad to see.
Wow just about missed this one all together. Sure was glad to see you toying around again. Best wishes, cheers.
Respect from the United Kingdom pal!, you probably saved me from injury because I was gonna use a normal drill to get my 200 cc 4 stroke go cart to start because the pull cord is broken and I think it’s also flooded so I have been struggling to get the thing going and it used to get started on the first pull.
Thank you 😊 you saved me from spending sooo much money on a new starter for my side by side. Now I can save up while still riding on our trails.
Love the 350X, I have a 83 200X and a 82 250R. I stumbled on to this channel today. . Your invention is really cool.
It is a neat looking new drill....and a good idea on starting your machines ...Stay Safe and get well soon ....
Thanks for your help I’m going to build one, I have broken my Milwaukee drill twice kept breaking the same bolt but thanks to you I’ll solve the problem.
Right on man.. so very glad to see and hear you again. God bless you and yours and thanks for sharing. The best on KZread. In my opinion. Good to visit with you.
@2jeffs1
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kerry!
Welcome back glad to see your doing better..
Always get excited when you have a new video. I think you should make videos on all the projects you do. You don't give your self enough credit sometimes you come up with some great ideals so please make more videos. Here's wishing you a speedy recovery. have a great week. God Bless!!!
@2jeffs1
5 жыл бұрын
Appreciated! Thank you very much, Jeff.
Man thats a clean lookin' X you got there man! Love it! I remember years ago there was an aftermarket company named Goki that made an electric start kit for the 350x
Get well and stay well Jeff. The world needs and appreciates you.
@2jeffs1
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kindness Joseph, Jeff.
Great stuff Jeff! Glad you are healing. You Sir are a clever guy. Much respect. Jim
@2jeffs1
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jim!
Glad to see that you are on the mend! Hopefully the doctor will turn you loose soon. I always look forward to your projects. I can't help finding out what's inside either.
I love your videos. Thanks for making them.
You Sir, are an inspiration. Keep up the great work.
@2jeffs1
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Thomas!
I always enjoy your content. Hope you have a quick recovery.
@2jeffs1
5 жыл бұрын
Getting antsy to be back to walking. That day can't come quick enough.
great video Jeff! it answered my questions. Im going to try it ! I had a fly wheel come off in my hands once on a small engine I was working on. it ended up sheering the key and rolling down the driveway. Quite the event... no blood.. :)
Thanks for making another great video, your one ambitious guy with allot of talent. Keep healing up.
Your vids are awesome! Keep 'em comin'! You're livin' my dream!
Love it! Great job! Hope you're feelin better!
Thanks for the video, hope you get better soon, and the shop video you made helped me a bunch with ideas to set up my own shop, thanks again and stay warm, I'm located In Updated ny and it's stay to get cold. Have a great day
@2jeffs1
5 жыл бұрын
Will be doing a more detailed shop tour some time in the future which will cover the one of a kind widgets and things.
Thanks for sharing. I'm using similar contraption to start my lawn mower. Lawn mower is a lot easier to start than the trike, and I use old primitive cordless drill without any protection circuit in it and a small lead acid battery.
@2jeffs1
5 жыл бұрын
Can picture that! Another nicely creative idea...
Keep gettin' well!!!
Great video and solved a problem for me. Thanks and keep them coming.
Great info, applies to other applications too
That three wheeler is awesome!
That would come in handy on a model t crank. Save a few thumbs at least. Always love seeing the fixes you come up with for stuff.
Good to see your still kickin........well not kick startin but......hey..... Nice elect start solution.
Jeff, great video !!!!!!!!!!!! and great info !!
Hi Jeff, My other half Susan is having a Titanium Hip Operation on the 8th of November 3 month recovery time. When the Insurance flips next year round two on the other hip. Love your videos keep up the good work.
awesome! thank you for a great video.
Thanks Jeff.
Hi Jeff, I just watched some other YT content and somehow I was wondering how you're doing, so I checked if you uploaded some new stuff. Good to see you back and still making stuff and having great idea. Whishing you all the best for christmas season. Greetings from Gemany - take care
Great video Jeff
Glad to see you out in the shop tinkering . . . . the body may be broke and healing, but the mind needs exercise . . . Rog
@2jeffs1
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, You bet!
Great fix Buddy! I must confess I made one a couple of years ago. I don't have the starter drive though. Thumbs up!
You’re very cool. I would love to live next door and see your successes first hand. Thanks for making your videos.
Thanks for the info.
Great Video!!!!
I love the tri demon stuff man
I really enjoy every one of your videos. Just remember your wheelchair is temporary. I am in a wheelchair permanently. It's not so bad for me because I still have one leg to stand up and work under the hood and have a midrise lift that my wheelchair fits under. I've been working on cars professionally for 23 years, after I was injuried if been working in my wheelchair for 9 years and have adapted quite well. I can still do everything I used to be able to do in my wheelchair at my home shop, even heavy work. Stay positive my friend as it's the best way to overcome an obstacle. My home shop is much smaller than yours, but it is as organized and well thought out as your shop. I really like your ideas
@2jeffs1
5 жыл бұрын
I so much enjoy reading the comments. I like how positive you are which is the best answer to all encountered. Thank you for stopping by, Jeff.
@dogsplantscarsneatstuff176
Ай бұрын
Your attitude is an inspiration! Keep wrenching.
Jeff... You just made a subscriber for life! I spent way too much time on a ATC back in the middle 70s.... And yes got my nose bloodied more than once riding wheelies. I can already tell you like taking stuff apart but may I suggest AVE KZreadr he takes drills and tools apart regularly quite interesting goes into debt with the explanation of the electronics. 😀🇺🇸👍
@2jeffs1
5 жыл бұрын
I quit doing wheelies now after my broken leg deal :) Thank you for the tip but.... yes I do watch him. He is beyond smart and one heck of a comedian to keep one listening!
Brilliant!
I’m going to make this for starting my small outboard engine.
@Jimwohl1960
Жыл бұрын
Actually… it won’t work because although the outboard turns clockwise, you are viewing it from the opposite direction as a land engine, so using the same standards, marine engines are counterclockwise.
Man I always like your videos!
@2jeffs1
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, much appreciated reading such!
@Cr125stin
5 жыл бұрын
I like them soo much I’m watching them again! Hahaha thanks again
Hay brother get a 12 volt starter for a polaris 400 2 stroke scrambler. it has a gear reduction drive and is about the size of a brigs & stratton starter but with the power of a car starter. then get an old 10 speed bike and rob the gear set off the rear tire. it will spin one way and free wheel the other. weld the 10 speed gear to the starter gear then weld your cranking sprocket to the other side of the 10 speed gear. now take one of your 12 volt drill lipos and wire to it with a switch. now make a small box to house all this in and you are good to go. or better than this is to just buy a hand held 12 volt remote starter like the ones the go cart racing community use to crank thee modified engines. those work amazing and would crank your atv all day no problem at all and cost you less than that big ass drill probably did! hahahah love ya bro, glad to see you thinking outside the box. i live outside the box! visit me sometime.
very nice job.
Brilliant
Aw man! Loving that. I'm definitely going to be ripping an old starter apart now and rigging that up. The old honda's with points, if they aren't running right, its torture to keep kicking them over and over again. Its so nice to be able to sit next to it, and just spin the engine over. Thanks for that info Jeff!!!! Great video as always sir. :)
@2jeffs1
5 жыл бұрын
Hi there Tom. I have a wingnut on the crankcase plug now so no tools needed other than the drill setup. Always wanted to build one of those starter drives. Left the Honda's and drill/battery outside overnight to see how good when freezing out. Spun the engine over like crazy. Just can't get over the torque that battery powered drill had.
Hey Jeff Dewalt has a new line of tools called Flexvolt. The batteries can be used on any Dewalt 20v tools. It's a 20v/60v battery. More mA on 20v tools or standard on 60v tools. They are pricey but maybe they could be used on your project. By the way there is also an adapter that lets you use the newer 20v batteries on the older 18v Nicad tools.
hi jeff, nice to see you getting back into the garage, tell the doc that you have physical therapy machines ready to go,
@2jeffs1
5 жыл бұрын
:>) One can't leave those machines alone overnight. Another one magically appeared the next mourning. (The GF loves road trips.) Yup, good therapy...
@Roostertailin
5 жыл бұрын
@@2jeffs1 Great video 2jeffs1! Cool to see you can get around having a kickstart. Mustie1, you make great videos also!
very interesting mate.
glad to see your on the mend,i spent 20 hours in the emergency room 2 weeks ago because i swelled up like a balloon. heart condition and retaining water doesnt mix,and yes doctors do not like to commit to much. in fact i have to sign a waver anytime i am in the hospital basically saying if i die from a procedure they are not responsible..... kinda like buying a 500 dollar car off Craigslist,lol.
@2jeffs1
5 жыл бұрын
Jeez Rodger. One (me) seems to take feeling good for granted until.... When I hear what some folks are going thru these days as we all get older, wow.
@rogeroconnor5182
5 жыл бұрын
when i was in my 20,s and 30,s i never even thought about stuff like this,once i hit 40 thats when things started to change. one day at a time is all we can do
@ricochetey
5 жыл бұрын
Just be happy that we dont have health care like Britain.
Look into the BMS/Protection circuit for the stall. Hope your leg gets better.
Don’t you hate when a great video ends??! 😢 well that’s how I felt when this one ended. Love your videos. You also remind me of one of my great uncles who passed away as well, and oddly his name was Jeff too.
@2jeffs1
5 жыл бұрын
Had to stop by Ryan and say thank you for the kind thoughts, Jeff.
@Ryan318l
5 жыл бұрын
2jeffs1 I just wish I knew you in person because you seem like a great person!!
Awesome...
Great stuff Jeff just thought you might have better luck with a brushed dc motor since brushless uses a confusor to turn the zeros and 1s on and off with protection circuitry
Torque wouldn't be changed by voltage or current. Get a starter and modify it to run your tool you made. Weld a handle on it and you will get the Torque you want. Oh and wear insulated gloves. LOL Love the video. I am relying on an electric wheelchair myself so I understand the frustration.
hi there my friend that was a good video there my friend and that warranty claim thing was funny
The drill starter is a good Idea especially for those who may only occasionally need to start a small engine. For those who need to start engines on a more or less regular basis I think a portable starter made from a car starter and a lawn battery is more the ticket. Similar to the starters they use on formula 1 cars or racing go karts. Should be very easy to build and fairly cheap too if you use junk yard parts. Even a starter from a lawn tractor would probably turn that honda engine just fine, paired with a 7 amp hour SLA battery it would be reasonably light weight as well. Anyways just thinking out loud.
We've got a wheel chair in shop for working under the lift. Just think, everything you drop is much closer!
Take care buddy
Having spent a total of a year and a half in full length plaster casts (21 major knee op on both knees, ,26 weeks for right leg tib and fib, and also broke right leg a second time and a cartilage out of right knee all this from 1975 - 79) i can empathize with your being in a chair at least it is better than crutches in summer ! take care Jeff
@2jeffs1
5 жыл бұрын
OMG - that is horrible. When I hear what some people go thru I think it is awesome where they still stay in good spirits.
@MoondyneJoe
5 жыл бұрын
Well the way I look at it Jeff is I am saving a heap of people a heap of pain add to the leg problems and I have 13 degenerated Disks in the back, Stomach ulcers from taking anti inflamitories, Active arachnoid cyst in the brain, Arthritis, have been through 4 rounds of Radio therapy since 2007 (for sub cutaneous marginal zone B cell lymphomas that have turned multi focal ) and recently been diagnosed with Diabetes ,people say those like us who suffer chronic pain are brave, I dont think so , each day is just another day to get through ( grin another day in paradise Lol) when it is all you know how can you define what is the norn? Tony
That’s a good idea I was gona use a ratchet head. But I have some old starter. My Milwaukee tunes my techumseh star engine over good but it’s hard to control when it starts to remove the socket and it kicks back hard. Thanks for the idea.
@jamesgravel7755
3 ай бұрын
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Hi Jeff love your video, just a thought, try a starter motor off a car like a small smart car.
Here’s a thought Jeff. Try a little different technique in how you apply the drill. When you hit the button, hold loosely on the drill and let the handle slip or rotate a bit before you catch it firmly, kind of clutch it by hand. Not too loose. You don’t want it to get out of hand. But that way the drill is moving when the sensor checks and maybe it adds a little zip on the initial punch too. Loved that shot of the bird on the silo. Really captures a moment in Midwest landscape and outdoors when you panned out. Be real youtube, face life without the booze.
@2jeffs1
5 жыл бұрын
Interesting thought - I shall have to try that. Left the machines out in the cold all day and overnight (25 degrees) along with the drill and battery. Was surprised. Not scientific here but It seemed to work even better. Beats using the foot if it was available for....
Jeff, hoping you are starting to feel better. Looking forward to a new video soon. Since you like wiring etc can you do a video on converting florescent shop lights to led?
@2jeffs1
5 жыл бұрын
I do have one. Very easy to understand, many nice comments that it was very helpful to others. kzread.info/dash/bejne/X3qCpayOosq0Yco.html
More three wheelers is good its like another bonus to the channel those are some minty machines!🤙🤙🤙👌👌👌💣💣💣💥💥💥😂
I use 3/8" ratchet adapter, it spools up fine when engine starts before you get it removed.
try holding it so the handle is not on the foot peg and use a lottle strength ot even a ppring to lighten the initial start up load on the drill. Or use an extended on that handle to increase the moment arm by which you can hold it in place.
Buena idea yo tengo esa pieza de starter así no ay que preocuparse a que te bote la mano
Thanks for you build !! Great idea !! Liked !! From my background in electronics, I would say the voltage drop on the hanging battery is enough to cause it to supply less than 1/3 of the current that would be possible if it had heavy wire. It looked like you used 12 gauge wire which is good for 20 amps which seems like that is ok ... but that 24 inches ( i figured 6 in x 4 - each battery for each color) of 12 g wire offers a lot more resistance than the battery that is hooked directly to the drill. In addition i guess it's the current regulator on the motor that is kicking out ... so even with a bigger battery you will probably still have the problem - i am only guessing on that :) Good Luck !!
@2jeffs1
5 жыл бұрын
Cool, 12 ga, yup. Your spot on with your thoughts. Guess I was having fun. Love those sit down jobs while chair bound. ;>)
@advancednutritioninc908
5 жыл бұрын
You have a sharp mind ... I have appreciated many of your builds over the years!! Keep it going! :)
That trike is an oldie. I don't recall when production of them ended.
I made mine with a harbor frieght halfinch drive socket wrench cyt the handle off amd tacked welded a drill chuck on the other end and made sure to keep the clockwise and counter clockwise selector free to be able to change depending on the engine and when the engine starts it spins freely just the same as the socket wrench would and it engages in whichever direction u choose and it took about 15 mins and 10 bucks to make instead of ripping apart a chevy starter i mean ur tool definitely looks nicer but mine does the job and is really strong also i found using a air tool or a corded drill it doesnt struggle or potentially ruin a cordless also at lowes u can buy these drill starters for craftsman weedwhackers the tool cost 20 bucks but is ment fir 50ccs and under
Great video...The starter drive on GM turns the other way...The way I learned it is the Ford motor Lose time... Turning CCW and GM gains Time...Turning CW...which means starter drive turns opposite direction ...IDK if that helps
I have a 1980 Yamaha 250 XT. Can you give me some help on how I could retro fit a permanent electric start on to this bike. I am not quite heavy enough to kick start it easily. I love this video and the way you think. Hope you are up and around with no pain.
Jeff, thanks for the video. I have an outboard motor that I need to rig up DIY starter for. They offer an electric starter kit, but charge $750 for it. I was wondering how to make a safety drive & the Chevy starter drive unit looks like the answer.
Hi Jeff, Great video. It is absolutely essential to have this DIY drive adapter for this job. Although I have a drive adapter for my Craftsman weed eater, I did not know, it had a free wheeling shaft. For other equipment I used the drill machine. I have started various motors with my DeWalt DC995 without the adapter without any problem. However, recently I reckoned my drill machine and had to buy a new one, now DC998. The kick back of the motor ruined my planetary gear in the drill machine! I have searched the internet for an adapter like yours, but could not find it. I could send you a picture of the damaged planetary gear, if I new your email.
Liked the video before I watched it! I wonder how one of those battery powered impacts would do?
@2jeffs1
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Tony. If you meant to use for the cranking purpose the impact's are a different design to obtain the torque with a hammer effect. I did use an impact to tighten the crankshaft bolt a bit above normal where it is being turned backwards (loosen direction) to start the engines in an abnormal way... You bet, did follow your thought idea for sure!
hello a friend of my use this set up to start his 1947 airplane I think it is about 50 hp he used to start it my hand flipping prop but plane started one time and power was set to high so he garbed the wing strut and had it hit the hanger so now he can start it while setting in the plane
Great vid i have a klx 650 do you think the same concept would work to start that i cant kick it on if my life depends on it
Interesting and informative video. Did you consider getting the Dewalt XR Brushless 3 Speed high torque 1/2" drive Impact Wrench instead of the drill/driver. Seems like the Impact Wrench would've been more suited to what you needed the tool for. Great video and a great education in power tool electronics. Tesla's interest in the possibilities of AC current is vindicated once again.
@2jeffs1
5 жыл бұрын
The bolt on the flywheel will loosten with an impact. I have to over tighten it with an impact to use that drive or it comes loose. It would need to be a LH thread. Thank you for your thoughts - just wished to get back for you trying to help out. Thank you - Much appreciated!!!
From Brazil thanks Jeff!!! Keep doing great videos like that. could u tell me if this Dewalt is stronger than makita 481, makita 481 is the strongest. 120 newton.
@2jeffs1
5 жыл бұрын
Hi there. I can't answer that. I do know that Dewalt is very powerful tho. Couldn't believe it would turn over the engine without even using the compression release in second gear.
cool video. how do you make that adapter that starts the engine. my shoulder and back hurts and i dont think i will be able to start these recoil engines on lawn mowers and pressure washers. oh i wish i was young and strong . lol
I’d love to see how u made ur starter for the drill.. we have a old Wisconsin 4 cylinder motor we r trying to start..we made a shaft kinda like for a old model a or tractor… so that way it can kick off.. we used it with a big electric drill… well no luck so far.. any help would be appreciated..
Great video Jeff! That's a great idea for starting the 3 wheelers! BTW...I still have my 84 Honda 200 from back in the day.
champion sweat shirt, welcome back to the 70s lol, I just threw away mine and my members only jacket.
Hi just stumbled upon your Channel, brilliant idea on your One Way Drive mechanism! if you sell one of those One Way Drive starter attachments how much would it be?? I do start my chipper with my drill
This is something I have been looking for for years. May I know how strong the torque?
Good video. I have to make me one of these. Maybe use your foot starter to turn the engine to TDC on a/the compression stroke. Too bad there is no compression release. I have a little 3hp briggs that I was starting with a 1/2" drill with a 1/4" socket extension. After it kicked back twice it twisted off the extension. Pulled out my hair on that one. Turned out the flywheel was not a great fit to the crankshaft. A session with valve lapping compound fixed it.
@2jeffs1
5 жыл бұрын
Neat write up you had there Dan! Actually the second gen engines do have a compression release. I did film reaching over the seat, holding light pressure on the kicker and as you suggested/thought that did work perfect every time. We were up north in the cold last weekend and everything worked wonderful. It was below zero in the mourning. The 350 wouldn't start after a long crank. Forgot to turn switch to run - duh..... ;>)
@danharold3087
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah so glad I NEVER do that ..... duh
That gel cell that you connected up doesn't have the high amperage discharge rate like those lithium-ion batteries. The gel cell will struggle to discharge at 30 amps but the lithium batteries will produce over 100 amps or more. I learned about batteries way back when I was racing RC cars. Yep, had a few hard lessons in batteries.