Excellent. Thank you for doing this with X-Mode and traction control both on and off.

I love your tests! Please test a Forester SH/SJ with manual transmission!

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

4 ай бұрын

Thanks! If we find manuals, we'll test it for sure.

Blue one had the least drama. I wonder why Subaru made the next gen less aggressive by default.

@user-oe7pr5ww2m

10 ай бұрын

Primary reason is for fuel efficiency, at the no x-mode reducing the torque sending to rear axle increases the gas mileage, and second reason is less aggressive mode allows higher speed range than full x-mode....

i think the xmode on the newer subaru dirt mode turns off after going a certain amount of speed. Its supposed to not allow as much wheel spin as the mud mode

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Super interesting, from test the SJ gives best results. However i would like to know if difference tire types and pressure. Also i think the age / km lifetime of gearbox etc. But from design i prefer the SH with intercooler air-intake on top.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

7 ай бұрын

Tyres do not influence the test, pressure correct for each car.

Blue one nailed the test! Looks like they reserved that ability to only deep snow mud on the new model. I assıme this would be done to reduce fuel consumption or for better handling?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

Жыл бұрын

I think that both.

Soo the SJ has the most aggressive programming.

@Albuermeduardo

11 ай бұрын

it looks like it, but it shouldn´t be that way. It´s the reason why i commented on the tires of the SJ.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

11 ай бұрын

​@@AlbuermeduardoTires do not influence the test, there are no problems with grip.

@spongebobsquarepants2656

10 ай бұрын

SJ with one-level X-mode is the best tuned. SK is less aggresive to point out the new 2 level X-mode.

@Albuermeduardo

10 ай бұрын

@@spongebobsquarepants2656 I disagree. The x-mode was revised and updated for the SK model.

@spongebobsquarepants2656

10 ай бұрын

@@Albuermeduardo Sure it was. And ? I can't see any advantage in traction over SJ. Even considering the e-boxer support.

I wonder how Sh forester passed the side roller & diagonal & 3roller tests even though VDC was turned off. As far as i know, this model comes with 4 eat Mpt system with VDC. Maybe there is an electronic differential lock without any relay and switch off button.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

Жыл бұрын

VDC includes traction control and stability control. Traction control is always active.

@umutooo

Жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Thank you.

You have to watch till the end. X-mode made a difference

The SH may have had a slightly worn center diff.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

Жыл бұрын

It's AT, there's no center diff but a clutch-pack.

The white can do what the Blue can do on the right setting "Deep Snow and Mud". The white which is the 2020 model is more realiable compared to the 2019 model.

The SJ is more aggressive AWD program and stiffer suspension. Just wonder why the SK is less in many way?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

9 ай бұрын

More aggressive doesn't mean better, that depends on conditions 🙂

@AntonioMartinez-xt7gg

4 ай бұрын

El modelo SK tiene una barra estabilizadora mucho mas rigida. Y una suspension para carretera.

I think it would be right to turn on manual mode and test at first gear

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

Жыл бұрын

We're planning to that with SH.

@spongebobsquarepants2656

10 ай бұрын

​@@4x4.tests.on.rollersAFAIK it makes a difference on SJ too

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

10 ай бұрын

@@spongebobsquarepants2656 We tried with SJ, no difference.

Ciekawy test. Mam niebieskiego, tylko że brązowego. ;-) ...and I love it.

Какое поколение из них самое лучшее в этом тесте на ваш взгляд?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

10 ай бұрын

IV and V. They are basically the same.

Did you Notice difference on SH forester with ABS on / off ?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

7 ай бұрын

ABS is not in use here.

@brattikx777

7 ай бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers sorry I mean ESP , I drive SH 2012 with diesel manual gearbox. What is beter esp on or off on mud or snow?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

7 ай бұрын

​@@brattikx777Usually it's better to have it on. However, when are driving through deep snow or when you are stuck - then turn it off.

@brattikx777

7 ай бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers thanks, have a nice evening.

Надо было ещё вставить сюда SG XT который очень хорошо прошел тест.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

Ай бұрын

SG XT had different awd system.

@nagval7592

Ай бұрын

​@@4x4.tests.on.rollers так и у этих трёх она вся разная))

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

Ай бұрын

@@nagval7592 These three has ACT-4 S-AWD. Forester SG XT that we tested had VTD. If we wanted to compare SG here - we would have to find version with ACT-4.

@nagval7592

Ай бұрын

​@@4x4.tests.on.rollers ну мне кажется важна эффективность в целом.

seems like the car is sliding into the housing of the roller and getting grip there. i could be wrong

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

6 ай бұрын

There is no contact between the housing and tyre: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pGenuqufqdGtnNY.htmlsi=cFWe-02rZnP_Th4A

I wonder how many folk know the brake and accelerator pedal trick. You can hack a roller test even with a 2WD

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

Жыл бұрын

Quite a lot. Some of them tried that during the test, it didn't help.

@kazimierzwrona727

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it doesn't help even in my Legacy III 00' which gets stuck on two rollers.

@sergeysudoma5749

Жыл бұрын

Hi. Could you please explain about that trick with both pedals?

@dmitrypopov2614

Жыл бұрын

It is a myth. This only works with limited slip differentials.

@An.Individual

Жыл бұрын

worked back in the day but with modern ECUs, if you brake then it cuts the throttle.

SJ Forester (blue) got the rest beat, but to be fair I believe it's the XT model which means it has a turbo engine so it has more torque and power, The front bumper gave it away (I own one)

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

Ай бұрын

Nope, blue one is not XT, it's standard 2.0

I´ve been an owner fo a SH Forester and currently own a SJ Forester which I love. However this test was not equilibrated, because I can see that the blue (SJ gen) has some kind of mild off road tires, allowing it to have more grip than the other too. Also, the driver of that same model was way more agressive from the beginning, which is not ideal for this kind of test. He should be accelerating gradually and let the system do its job like the others did.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

Жыл бұрын

Tyres do not influence this test, cars are not missing the grip.. When it comes to being aggressive - way more is way more said. Driver of blue one could have been pressing the accelerator slightly faster but not harder, system takes control anyway.