Looks amazing design! What would the 657 compare to moses?

good morning, I'm in doubt between which to buy. I am kitesurfing and currently have the hydrofoil space skate 65 from slingshot 2019. I want something faster, what is the exact difference between the new model phantasm 730 and the 657?

I'm still not really following how the 633 will fit on the shorter fuselage? is it not to big? But you can definitely buy the 633 set up/92 mast and then add on the 657/730 wings without buying the shorter fuse? But obvs for better performance and to get the most out of the 657/730 , you will probs want the short fuse eventually right? What about bigger Wing Ding'm wings - these are coming out and will fit straight on the 633/92 set up? cheers

I need your advice. I have been thinking about which one to buy. I prefer 92 mast because i mostly kite, but would like to try winging. I do not want the long mast. But i think i would prefer the 657 wing instead of 633. Will there be option to swap the wings or would i have to purchase the wing separately once they become available?

@midlerp

3 жыл бұрын

The 633 is hard to beat across the board especially with freeride and winging and the 92cm mast is a must I would think as well. That 102 mast is very long which is nice for jumping and racing on the 657 or 730 but winging and freeride the 633 is fun and fast with great surfy feel and the 92cm is a great length. To answer your question you could get the 633 now and we WILL have the 657 wings only available in May/June time frame...I just confirmed for another client. I'd just get a wing only for the 92 setup...then you will also have the right gear for the slower wing foil wings being released for this chassis. Thanks for the comment!

@tomasgulas

3 жыл бұрын

@@midlerp awesome. Appreciate it!!

@ianbisson9669

3 жыл бұрын

@@tomasgulas Loving my 633...amazes me just how much lift it has if you slow up completely and so manoeuvrable whatever speed for a larger wing and floaty in the swells. It just tracks so well even through swells up and down maintaining height easily , you can just lock and fly without worrying about breaching. The 92 was a good call for sure. I've got the 657 coming and hopefully a wider more HA wing'n wing soon.

@ianbisson9669

3 жыл бұрын

Going to just stick with the longer fuse to save money though for now and add some stability. Plenty to play with and learn as it is.

@tomasgulas

3 жыл бұрын

@@ianbisson9669 thanks , happy to hear you like it, I did buy the 633 and had few sessions and loving it too. I did notice one thing. It is noisy, is that the carbon mast? I also moved it all the way back on my slingshot Alien air and I still need to position my feet more forward than woth my old LF Fish foil. When I try keeping my feet above the foil for a wider stance my front foot is at the very edge of padding , way in front where the foot straps holes are. Even when u move my back foot bit forward, more over the wing than mast, my front foot is way infront of the foot strap location. So I did ride strapless. I did order Slingshot dwarfcraft micro, 100cm. The track on that board is way at the end of the board so I think I'll love it. I also noticed the 633 wind does not fully align with the mast, there is a tiny gap. I did contact Slingshot about that. Otherwise I love it, really enjoy riding it, and looking forward this Friday riding with the new board.

That's a pretty ugly notch on the connection of the back of the front wing to the fuselage. Look at 1.09 in the video. Does this have the correct fuselage? That looks like it will produce looks of disturbance. Any ideas when you will have ride review?

@midlerp

3 жыл бұрын

That is a bad angle so it looks very severe, but it is very gradual. I just checked and there is no good side view on this video to compare. I will upload a side view to the website product at the link below...just keep scrolling right through pictures and you will see it. a little notch but not too bad. Thanks for the comment! houstonkiteboarding.com/products/phantasm-kite-657-foil-package?_pos=1&_sid=1a6b56ec0&_ss=r

@ianbisson9669

3 жыл бұрын

@@midlerp The F-one's have a similar notch /mast foot set up and they seem to work so must be all good