immediately after the first time I went down on a past girlfriend she cheerfully said "you dirty boy" and I thought I should make her feel good that I did not find her or that part of her "dirty" so I said "oh, I found it quite lovely". I've always wondered if I should have said "yeah, I'm a dirty boy."

@pantofliaras

2 жыл бұрын

The implication of "dirty boy" was aiming directly at you, not her parts you moron. The notion of carnal pleasure being a shameful act, as in an attempt to "shame" you in order for her to get rid of her guilt. Catholicism ethic style.

"Now comes the horror..."

Pretty cool point about "the real" of other cultures. One cannot be kind to another person and reductionist about their culture too - that is brutal.

@Soytu19

5 жыл бұрын

Its brutal but necessary and part of progress. Would you say that in the west protestantism was brutal? For some probably. But necessary.

@addammadd

Жыл бұрын

@@Soytu19 explain necessity

So authority and bureaucracy structures are an essential part of cultures.

@brandonszpot8948

4 ай бұрын

Yes

This is just as simple as to realise that the meaning of all human life, in its elementary form especially, comes down to just following the Law, - written in capital letters, those unwritten ones especially - and getting pleasures, both ridden by the "objet petit a". This is humanity at its most elementary. There should be a balance between both in order to be a real sane person and society. This is all we do until we die, nothing more. You can change the colours of the painting but the framework will always be the same.

@ThePeanutButterCup13

3 жыл бұрын

Capitalist realism

@FG-fc1yz

Ай бұрын

But is this structure completely elementary for subjective life, so that it is independent from time and place? Or are there other forms of subjective transformations possible, which do not come down to Zizeks definition? But then maybe the transformed subject cannot be called human anymore and has no connection with us whatsoever?

I see the world spirit in his sniff

Where is this taken from??

But that's the main objective of raping, i.e., to impose ones' power through authority, hurting and humiliation, etc. It's basically not a matter of enjoyment...

@tobymcinnis7031

5 жыл бұрын

how did you become such an expert, I wonder?

@coronatempo721

5 жыл бұрын

@@tobymcinnis7031 What are you looking for? Have you ever read feminist, gender or race relations litterature? Have you ever read/checked philosophy, sociology, anthropology and psychology? If you have had, you would then understand that my statement. Otherwise would you you believe humans beings do not engage in power relations? Lol ... are you a pervert? I I wonder...

@coronatempo721

5 жыл бұрын

@@tobymcinnis7031 ... that my statement is part of a consensus in these areas... ***

@rubyleopard

3 жыл бұрын

This is true about rape, but zizek's point is that the rapist's enjoyment is a surplus enjoyment derived from his guilt for the action. since he did not enjoy himself, he is not guilty

@tomisaacson2762

Жыл бұрын

You mean 'pleasure'. Not jouissance aka enjoyment.

STARTS WITH A SNIFF *sniff emoji*

"In some small mexican city" - I was like this is gonna hit hard, then he said "now comes the horror" at that point I lost it 😅

as a mexican i can correct, it's all about corruption, judge got money or got threaten, that's the way it is with people with power or money in mex, you don't have to complicate the idea Zizek

@tomisaacson2762

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't matter for the point he's making. The question remains: why is it taken as assumed knowledge that lack of enjoyment relates to the rapists culpability?

I get it

cant tell if hes coked up or got a cold

@SPACEDOUT19

Жыл бұрын

his enjoyment comes from you not knowing.

I don't get this. How can you speak of The Real of cultural existence if The Real defies signification? More over, if The Real is purely formal category, how can you speak of specifics of that category? I'm confused.

@ahmadisrar9446

Жыл бұрын

It's metaphorical .

@tomisaacson2762

Жыл бұрын

Phenomenologically, it defies signification. It can still be talked about with respect to its functions in this or that ideological structure. Or how it's "materialized".

Or the judge was either bought off or knew that sentencing the kid would mean some seriously negative consequences... the reasoning could just as well be a facade. I see no evidence or strong enough argument in this video for me to not consider this possibility

@MM-bx1ei

5 жыл бұрын

Doesn't matter even if that is the case. You don't see strong enough argument in this video because you don't understand the totality of the argument. Take a closer look at how Slavoj links judge's reasoning with Christianity to get the idea that it doesn't matter whether the judge was sincere or not. Because it is an already established reasoning built in religion.

*sniff*

Only the oppressing castes in India which are also the ruling class want to insure the caste system does not die due to political reasons like vote bank politics etc and other extremist reasons similar to white supremacy.

@brandonszpot8948

4 ай бұрын

Yea after his argument here, it’s difficult for me to believe that he genuinely supports emancipatory politics. It seems like he wants to be complicit in conservative positions with the excuse that “it’s their culture” which is almost exactly what he accuses liberals of doing.

Always criticizing Indian cast system but he'll not speak a single word for racism in western countries

@brandonszpot8948

4 ай бұрын

He didn’t criticize it, he supports it.

my god is this guy coked up or what.

@Pistolwhipperz

6 жыл бұрын

Lol.

@HakWilliams

6 жыл бұрын

Surplus enjoyment

@addammadd

Жыл бұрын

@@HakWilliams 👈this guy reads Žižek

I am disappointed to see the ideological, moral use of the theoretical concept, "Real" to attack the obvious social-political problems present in other cultures.

the closest thing to the Real in culture are Jungian archetypes. which are universal across cultures.

@iwantmytrophy

4 жыл бұрын

Wow someone quit the search after reading the first chapter.

@termoffline

4 жыл бұрын

@@iwantmytrophy first chapter of what?

@iwantmytrophy

4 жыл бұрын

@@termoffline Psychology 101

@ThePeanutButterCup13

3 жыл бұрын

@@iwantmytrophy the search for the real?

@krunkle5136

3 жыл бұрын

@@iwantmytrophy seconding the lack of what book. I get their meaning that op quit the great search, but they could've given a book recommendation.

How much coke has this guy done?