Holy shit dude, I thought you were lip synching at first. This is incredible. Too Dark Park is my favorite album of all time. Those tracks are timeless, none of them sound dated to my ears even all these decades later. Most electronic music tends to have a sound that makes its release date easily estimated but not Too Dark Park.

You annihilated this. 🦇 🖤 🦇 🖤

Huge ol’ school SP fan here! 🧟 Thanks for taking the time to brake down Oher’s vocals. Very cool!

Awesome vid. Would love to see like thirty more of these...

Love this! Too Dark Park forever.

If you haven't already found the instrumentals, cEvin Key's Patreon has heaps, including nature's revenge.

Wow man. You nailed it.

I read somewhere when touring, Oghr (and cEvin) use a Korg Kaoss Pad to warp them in real-time (chaining fx together much like your chain here). I'm looking forward to Korg releasing this summer an affordable 'mini' simple DIY version of the pad called the 'Korg NTS-3 Kaoss Pad' to go to town. It can only chain 4 fx at a time, but Overdrive/Compressor/Flanger/Reverb works. It also has a library function for users to create and upload infinite sounds. For now its cool just noodling with guitar fx pedals that do the same if not better!

This is amazing! I’m a huge Puppy fan too. Great job! Nailed the Too Dark Park sound!

So glad this popped up in my feed this is real cool

You slayed it, just saw SP on their last tour, incredible work

Been looking for a video like this for some time. Thanks for sharing!

Excellent! You are absolutely correct that Skinny Puppy overall had a passion for experimenting with audio/sound tools without worrying too much about rules or obligations to follow what's worked well for others before them. (The way they used the 909 drum machine, for example.) Understanding the core principles and laws of physics in audio, recording, and sound design overall are beneficial. Definitely. But these days with software, especially if armed with at least some basic knowledge and experience, one is only limited by their imagination. Thanks for sharing your exploration of a rare vocal sound and band started decades ago that new generations are still discovering.

Excellent work, thanks for putting the tutorial together!

Super cool. Way to go. Nice work.

Omgoth! Thank you so much for this gift!!!! I’ve been scouring the internet for industrial production but it’s basically an empty field.

@grimmwerks

Жыл бұрын

Ken Marshell's stuff is great - he usually shares Puppy original mixes he did too.

Bravo! that's dedication!

Awesome! Thanks for sharing!

awesome mate sounds really good thanks for this! 🖤

@ambionica

Жыл бұрын

thank you so much for the kind words. :)

fabulously done! just saying, a similar effects chain can be used to simulate "the voice" a la Dune 84 (shouts to all my BIFAR boys)

Impressive! Very Nice! I Dig It! BRAP ON!

Great vid featuring two of my fave SP tracks. I’m sure your mic contributes a bit too. You nailed it!

@ambionica

Жыл бұрын

:) nothing over the top. i use miktek cv3.

Fantastic job.

Very, very nice!

Thats a very good likeness, interesting.

Rash reflexion. Great job

Nice!!! Absolutely nailed Ohgr's tone with your chain. Thanks for sharing!! Give that Howard Benson Vocal Multiplier a shot if you haven't already. On Vox & Keyboards it can get very ugly (in a good way) 😸😸😸

Awesome my friend 🖤

Well done!

My bedroom-hobby-music-producing ass has just enough know-how to be really blown away by what you did here, on Spasmolytic too. Crazy impressive, both the result and I guess your expertise in achieving it with these tools. Much appreciated for sharing this, eye opening. Kinda wondering how you'd go about recreating Harsh Stone White. Anyway, cheers man.

@ambionica

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much... i've been a fan since the late 80s so i've always been intrigued by Ogre vocal. Of course i've tried to emulate it before but with the help of Ken Marshall and Phil I was able to dial it in a bit more. Harsh Stone White is pretty straight forward. Not much processing/fx on that one. It's whatever Dave Ogilvie was conjuring up for Ogre during Too Dark Park/Last Rights era that really stepped up the game, specifically for vocalists. So happy you dug it. Best wishes!!.

Amazing!great job man! :D

Yeah I Dig It man lol, subbed.

An effect I have found useful to simplify the amount of plugins per track is a multi-channel pitch shifter for vocals with a slight bit of reverb and distortion. Although I use it for Aggrotech genre vocals which is different than the SP sound. I have been a fan of SP since I was in school in the 80s they have been a major influence for me as well as others of the genre. I remember the first single I heard from SP Gods Gift Maggots, I was blown away and have been a fan ever since.

@ambionica

2 ай бұрын

nice... which multi-pitch are you using? waves or eventide? recently i've been toying with serial vocoders for a FLA bill leeb effect. lots of fun!!.

@AquaticDairyFarm

2 ай бұрын

@@ambionica Funny enough, I use ReaPitch, a stock plugin in Reaper. Lol it seems too simple for most folks but the plugin does the job I need it to do and has never given me any problems Live or in the Studio.

Best I've heard. Wonder if there is a way to do this soundtoys plugins...I'm going to have to tinker around.

nice.

Nice!

@ambionica

10 ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

Ha! I'll be at St. Pete as well (was orig going to NYC since I'm from up there but... not going to work out). One thing I'd add that would be great - is once you go through the chain describing everything (or even as you do) - if you could slowly build the chain up so we can hear what each item is adding onto it? Might sound tedious but it would help dial in the sound with other plugins. Also (and I do the audio-in on ableton myself) are any of the secondary vox channels spread stereo in the mixer (ie I do a lot of bkg left / bkng right ) or is the spread purely from the plugins on those subs?

@ambionica

Жыл бұрын

great questions & thank you for the kind words.. :) yes, i do have the first and 3rd track panned. also a few ms delay on track 2 (i think) typically no more than 12-14% pan.beyond that i'll use PanMan. I'm a technical guy but i often feel like i'm one of the few who truly appreciate every tedious aspect of mix process so i tend to skip quickly thru it. think i have to push as much as possible from now on into the first 3 min. then take my time for kats like us who appreciate going into detail. i'll def keep what you wrote in mind moving forward. if u see me @ the show do say "hi". :)

Cool. I’m not a vocalist but it would be cool to get a Ministry Psalm 69 video. Love the vocal effects on that album

@ambionica

9 ай бұрын

was working on posting another vox vid but blew my voice out werkin' on vocal fx for Ministry tracks. i do have an fx chain that sounds really good on Scarecrow. also totally different fx for older Twitch style vocal. i'll get back to it and have something posted in coming weeks. stay tuned. :)

This is really, really great! It sounds really awesome. Thanks for sharing! I'm really new to all of this and I have a question: would this template work on a live setting? Or would all the noise create feedback or other kinds of problems?

@ambionica

11 ай бұрын

hello, even the best of 'em have to scale down live fx. in this scenario it's prob best to bounce vocal fx to individual audio track then mix live with your semi-dry vocal = mission accomplished. watch Ken Marshall youtube channel. he lays it all out. :)

great sound,...how could this kind of vocal be transported to live koncert without the bleed in the mic ? any hint how is this done ? thnx

@ambionica

5 ай бұрын

check out Ken Marshall youtube channel. He has the answers. Very kool dude.

This is great! Did you have fx on the main vocal group as well?

@ambionica

Жыл бұрын

great question.. :) go to 3:50. there you'll see my vocal group fx inserts. best wishes!!.

How do I sound like that live?

This sounds amazing. Do those UAD plugins need the hardware or are they native?

@ambionica

10 ай бұрын

i'm using UAD hardware but now i believe most or all UADs no longer need dedicated hardware. = :)

Great video....what are the specs on the computer you are using? I imagine running that many plug-ins live requires a lot of processor power?

@ambionica

7 күн бұрын

I'm using a Dell XPS allinone i7 8th gen 16gb ram = :)

can you make that templet downloadable... would be great just to open the project and check it out...

@ambionica

Жыл бұрын

Rabbit in the Moon is this DC? i appreciate you reaching out. we last chatted on FB. i can message u there. i would be happy to share my vocal processing session. Much respect to RitM and to you my friend.

@RabbitintheMoon

Жыл бұрын

@@ambionica yes,., and sure,, hit me up there!

Ken Marshall might join as a guest and go through it with you

@ambionica

7 ай бұрын

i wish!!!!! that'd be AMAZING!!!!!.

@quantum_ocean

7 ай бұрын

have you reached out to him? You know his channel here right it's super big on educating @@ambionica

@quantum_ocean

7 ай бұрын

I just wrote him about it. will let you know if he replies. @@ambionica But i guess Mark Walk is the guy you really want to talk to...

Awesome job. You do a great Ohgr! Have you ever seen Ken Marshall on you tube. He’s a mix engineer who worked with SP for many years. He has some interesting insight into some of these things too. I bet he’d appreciate this video.

Do you think you would be able to help me do wumpscut type vocals?

@ambionica

3 ай бұрын

hi, i've never listened to Whumpscut but had friends who were fans. i just took a listen and believe the older stuff could be accomplished with an ART or Digitech rack multi-fx circa ealy-mid 90s with a distortion stomp box. after trying sooo many pedals on vocals back in the day, i found this to be best for industrial vocal = DOD Digitech FX56 American Metal. It's purple and i'd recommend putting on an aux with a gate inserted on the distortion so it kicks on only when u scream. On the newer track i heard i think it could be accomplished using Izotope Vocalsynth. i'm a big fan of Universal Audio plugins and now almost exclusively use them on vocals. best wishes!!!.

@rammstein1985234

3 ай бұрын

@@ambionica awesome! Thank you so much for the reply. I have been trying for a while now, to try different vst's or ableton stock pligins. No luck. I am sort of close with Rob Papen distort. I also know my voice won't sound exactly like his because we all sound different. I just want to get close. Would you recommend doubling the track or just a single track then a series effects? Thanks so much again in advance.

@rammstein1985234

3 ай бұрын

@@ambionica also what distortion plugins would you recommend?

Audio rate lfo and ,karplus strong

I'm assuming you don't know how they really did. That in the old was actually analog equipment the right way

@ambionica

5 ай бұрын

I think you're asking if I know how the sound was originally conceived. Ken Marshall covers that extensively on his KZread channel but as he says, it's harder to come by the original gear + it'd be more costly etc. but if u have the time & $ flow then def keep me posted on your progress. :) Best wishes!!!

@ambionica

5 ай бұрын

Just read your comment again. your assumption is incorrect my mann. I don't own the original gear thus the 'emulation' but def chekc out Ken Marshalls youtube channel. :)

Good job, thanks!

Yeah that's a subscribe from me dawg