wheel ups, pull ups, reloads, this come all the way from reggae and dancehall, you find them in jungle, garage, grime, dubstep all type of music that inherits that dna

@Jurnalist_

2 жыл бұрын

Yea im still trying to get my head around the wheel up standards as we dashed those in the bin in America shit we dont even use beats for our most popular form of BR.

Lethal B was a garage MC back in the day had a a tune called oi with more fire crew came out in 2000/2001 it used shut down the Garage raves. Wiley was part of Pay as you go they were all making that dark Garage that evolved into Grime.

@Jurnalist_

2 жыл бұрын

Bobby with the details bless my g. I still gotta dig into these ogs I've never heard these songs or music really until doing these videos.

Dj EZs first boiler room video on YT will show you how a garage vibe looks.. DJ EZ is also probably the best technical DJ from the UK

Last track is so solid - envy. Ms dynamite arguable the hardest female mc verse to this day. Deserves its own reaction. Whole thing was pure garage but I think you can see how some elements of grime came from this. There was plenty of drama between this lot so yes..tension The guy you said had a lot of kids is Major Ace who died in 2017 from a brain tumor. He was in pay as you go but I think he also had a time in nasty crew (someone please correct me if I'm wrong). Ghetts mentions him on legends

@Jurnalist_

2 жыл бұрын

Yea I can for sure see the finger prints now its all making more and more sense and the more I hear the more I get used to the production and sound scape.

Garage is very much party music and still is till this day, dont expect much substance or structure. Instrumentals hold just as much weight as the MCs and if you've never really listened to DJ only sets then listening to this, focusing on the bars probs is the wrong idea. It's all about the vibe honestly, sun is out, everyones drinking, beats are pumping, people dancing, no ones really focusing on the lyrics unless they catch the beat nicely with some popular bars. A lot of the sets you see that are over 1 million views are purely because of the names involved in my opinion and doesn't necessarily mean they're the best sets. In terms of history though this is at the top because you would never see these groups all together on the same set back in the day

@jurnalist So as I’m sure you’ve figured out there’s many influences that make up Grime. It’s safe to say the basic format for the the mc’s going over instrumentals and spitting there best bars,clashing driving the crowd crazy and winning a reload comes directly from Dancehall. I’d go as far to say it’s the base that all the other strands are built on. Dancehall, jungle,UKG,Grime to mention just a few are definitely a diverse mix of many cultures that come here UK and made it home. Weather you was fighting for the mic in the youth club spitting fire in the hallway of the flats or trying to lay something down using the headphones as a mic it’s great to see how far the uk sound has come. It’s great watching your journey into our world, keep up the good work.

31:44 - we all call it mega man hat here 🤣listen to ghetts - dun know remix, you’ll see it.

Swiss is the best in the room. Lovin' everyone's energy in there though. As for the beats there was Garage in there but there was also a lot of Jungle beats mixed in as well.

@Ecstasio

2 жыл бұрын

Swiss is the guy with the grey and purple jacket and snapback at 15:13 , check "UK Rap & Grime Pioneers Ep#2 - Swiss" for more about him, another rabbit hole of lyrical mastery awaits 🤣

Jungle , drum and bass

Swiss (dude in grey is probably the best early rapper on the scene ) Check out his songs Swiss - Broken silence Swiss - Cry Swiss also has a daily duppy also That sample is from a hospital to show

Sound system culture uk this our first of kids 7 years stepmum

You’re 100% right everyone older and rusty so no one hogging the Mic

36:15 - so solid crew - they don’t know remix from ms dynamite (called Envy). There’s 2 versions both on KZread.

Mans would plug headphones into the mic jack on a hifi and use the left one as a mic and just go back to back on a tune. We used to do that at school. Mans is old 😂

RIP Major Ace! Pioneer

If you over 50 from the UK you know you know

@Jurnalist_

Жыл бұрын

Sadly I am not over 50 from the UK I'm just getting the info

Yo that verse they all rapping at the end is Akalas sister . Ms dynamite . The song is so solid crew - envy ft ms dynamite. ( before akala ) She basically stunted in all of so solid in that verse

It wasn’t bout the lyrics as such bro, it was hype and vibes. It was a UK culture the times these mans was about. So don’t deep it too much, more time, it’s energy and fun. Gas club early 00’s! If you know you know 💪🏻

Garage was and still is great. It was all about feeling good vibes with everyone making an effort to dress up nicely. The cost of following the scene probably lead to the emergence of the grime scene, in my opinion.

@Peeg1

9 ай бұрын

Innit though, nice shirt, some dark straight jeans and a loafer. Awful now but it was that. Bare Joop or Armani Blue Jeans aftershave 😂

This what Grime originated into brooooski

@Jurnalist_

Жыл бұрын

Im learning . School of grime and garage and jungle is still in session.

They were before wayne bro 😂

32:28 ghost from Junction...put in dat work... repackaged it and come back as face bussin up dem tracks. My man a real G..big up Battersea..who knows knows init

All the influences come back to Jamaica, as does US rap, which comes comes from toasting which in turn comes from African chanting. As does Jungle, Garage, Grime and a whole load of other genres.

@H66699

2 жыл бұрын

'If you have a bassline in your music, THAT'S DUB...'

man said barbershop quintet lol

@Jurnalist_

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂

That light skin guy at the start of the video that you thought was cache from so solid is neutrino. And wiley used to be in pay as you go cartel then he left to start eski beats the rest is history! And bushkin is at 21:55 in, he's apart of heartless crew with mighty moe and fonty. That female mc at 36:18 is Ms dynamite and the songs called envy another song to look out for is Ms dynamite - boo... the whole verse is hers then it's asher d and mega man arguing in the tune, it's like a friendly clash between each other and mega man was schooling asher d saying don't get ahead of your self remember who brought you. Then he dissed dizzee rascal by calling him a bitch in the corner referencing dizzee rascals album at the time called boy in the corner. He dissed him after dizzee rascal slapped a female artist bum (Lisa mafia) that was apart of so solid crew and dizzee end up getting stabbed by one of the members of so solid crew 'allegedly' that also caused the fued between wiley dizzee falling out as friends and went their separate ways. Look into that beef one of the biggest in garage and grime at the time. Sorry for the information over load. Thought you'd like to know though lol

@Jurnalist_

2 жыл бұрын

These are my favs as they are the glue between the videos. yea i need to cover the wiley and dizee beef. i got ghetts and money up next though. TY again for the details greatly appreciated.

@jamie1832

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jurnalist_ no problem bro. I like how your putting in the effort to go in to the foundations and history in such details that many others wouldn't.. Your knowledge its greater than some in uk lol gotta big that up my g.. Keep doing your ting. I don't usually subscribe to many react channels but your videos show your love for the scene. Big up yourself everytime my bro ❤️🔥💯

The one you like is maxwell d he’s from pay as you go,he was one of my favourites growing up

@mattpoole719

2 жыл бұрын

Was one of Wiley’s elders when he came up in PAYG. He was one of the hardest back in the day although no one touched Heartless Crew for gassing a rave

@Jurnalist_

2 жыл бұрын

Let the guy who is top don in heartless tell it you tell no lies. lol h was talking big on nftr lol.

@Jurnalist_

2 жыл бұрын

Ye max is cold still.

So solid crew were the originators, then Wiley came with his sound and grime was born. Wiley was at radio, and said dizzee will merk Asher d, then the whole of so solid came to radio building, and Wiley said to all their face as back then south london vs east London was a beef. Asher D has an interview in NFTR and so does Wiley, that’s where I watched it.

@Jurnalist_

2 жыл бұрын

Ya I use the nftr interviews as bg sound while I do comments. sometimes it prompts me to ask post questions.

If theres no wheel ups in the rave its dead!

@Jurnalist_

9 ай бұрын

Thank you. I need a wheel or two at minimum

These guys used to go to war

Pretty sure 14:20 thats maxwell d

@jamie1832

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it is

I thought u wldve done the ghetts 60 min live first

@Jurnalist_

2 жыл бұрын

I think I did it first or that’s Kano

@evanwebb8752

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jurnalist_ yh that was the kano one

@Jurnalist_

2 жыл бұрын

@@evanwebb8752 ghetts is next then.

@evanwebb8752

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jurnalist_ btw that paris morton grime remix off the flirta d doc is lit called pound cake refix its by gundam

@Jurnalist_

2 жыл бұрын

@@evanwebb8752 Someone emailed it to me directly. Bless my g.

Should check out Luna c

@Jurnalist_

2 жыл бұрын

What record?

@philjones7632

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jurnalist_ fire in the booth 3 and best of luna c . don't flop

@Jurnalist_

2 жыл бұрын

@@philjones7632 Ill do dont flop first before fitb

@philjones7632

2 жыл бұрын

Good choice

Ukg is the equivalent to early 80s hip hop id say then grimes like 88-96 hip hop then we were just doing the same thing