Funny thing about Six Flags, is that the parks vary so wildly, that there cannot be one solid answer for the entire chain. What might work for Great America, might not work for Magic Mountain. What might work for Over Texas, might not work for Great Escape. I wonder what Air Time Thrills thinks about this!

@rfashmusic

Жыл бұрын

ANYTHING would work for Great Escape right about now lol. They haven't seen a new coaster since the Bush administration...

@TheOnlyBongo

Жыл бұрын

Honestly reminds me of Cedar Fair and Knott's Berry Farm. There was a time when Cedar Fair tried desperately to reshape and mould the park to become one with their standardized affair elsewhere but it wasn't doing them any good. A big focus on thrills and teens/thrill seekers and cutting most everything else that didn't fit the bill. However sometime in the mid 2010s a change in management focused on being a locally-driven park with an emphasis on events and family affair, as well catering more towards families in a more proactive sense. And the efforts paid off and Knott's Berry Farm is honestly a jewel that sits alongside Cedar Point. And look at Disney. They've been trying to assimilate Disneyland under the same rules and regulations that worked at Walt Disney World, even though both resorts have very different demographics and desires and because of that they're really tarnishing the image they've built up in California. Kind of goes to show that trying to homogenize theme and amusement parks doesn't really work out and that parks should be built and maintained to cater to their immediate local customer base rather than trying to be a one-size-fits-all ordeal.

@Spooky_Psyche

Жыл бұрын

@@TheOnlyBongo Yeah, Disney completely ruined California Adventure. The whole point of California Adventure was to be a Cali themed park, and they literally just slapped Disney branding all over everything to make it fit the Disney brand. I'm pretty sad about that.

@athing8523

Жыл бұрын

Lmfao great escape would benefit from dusting that's how lame of a home park it is.

@ternedo6074

Жыл бұрын

Just about anything would work at great escape we don’t have anything even slightly of value

I wouldn't mind no new additions if every single park spent money on upgrades all around. Improving all reliability on attractions so that while nothing is being added, what the parks have are all rideable. Some rides simply need refurbishments. Also opening up/cleaning areas and restaurants that are always closed and/or look abandoned. Improve the experience if you want us to pay more, otherwise, nothing is going to change.

@freyak5401

Жыл бұрын

That's what I was hoping they'd do this year with no new rides at many parks but nope, operations have been as bad as ever at my park and the place is as poorly run as always (and from the sounds of it many others)

@ziggyciggs5862

Жыл бұрын

Seriously!! I had to wait an hour and a half in line to order lunch! It was the only place to get food in the park and it was close to 15$ for a slice of pizza. This shit should be illegal. (That would require lawmakers to care about humans tho lol. Very funny)

@WhatsTheT

Жыл бұрын

I think there biggest issue is finding employees that want to work AND giving them better pay.

@martinez1701a

Жыл бұрын

Would be nice to see more shows or concerts like they did back in the day, also you hardly ever see characters anymore what up with that?

Remember when we all thought the high prices meant Six Flags would start investing in huge coasters? Man, those were the good old days. Also, great video. I love the energy you bring to your content.

@Loopingthrills

Жыл бұрын

If only we'd be getting new coasters for the high prices.

@nexpro6118

Жыл бұрын

@@Loopingthrills Magic Mountain is over 1 Billion in debt since its bankruptcy in 2009. You do know that at some point they need to start paying down this debt, right?

If he wants to focus on other non addition things, focus on increasing ride maintenance and operations budget. EB from CoasterRadio went to SFOT and ½ the coasters were closed.

@ThemeParkAvenue

Жыл бұрын

I can attest to this. I love SFOT, but when I went there were closures on La Vibora, Judge Roy Scream, and even Mini Mine Train.

@AmusementLabs

Жыл бұрын

@@ThemeParkAvenue and then they literally opened and closed Casa Magnetica in the same year.

@ThemeParkAvenue

Жыл бұрын

@@AmusementLabs honestly forgot that existed. I think that was closed or gone when I went.

@freyak5401

Жыл бұрын

Definitely. If operations were better and they spent more money on them and maintenance the coasters would have more cycles and ride time. You'd get the same capacity increase as adding a new coaster. Sure it's nothing you can advertise but when people come to your park and have a good time it makes them actually want to spend money and come back. Great America is my home park and I could totally agree with his argument that an S&S Axis prototype. Even if it was a killer ride, the facts are it'd be short, the lines would be long, and it'd be down all the time. I'd rather them spend 1/10th the money to refurbish American Eagle, get it racing again, and have it no longer stacking two trains like crazy by using the money from a new coaster to pay staff better to get the place more appropriately staffed. With how things are going I'm tempted to just cancel my grandfathered in membership and take a 3 year break from the park while they figure their shit out or go bankrupt again.

@ShinGoukiSan

Жыл бұрын

At Magic Mountain all but 1 of the ADA Elevators are down and have been all year. The Only One that works is Wonder Woman (because it's new) and that one has no way to signal anyone that you are there to use it

This really comes down to the details. I've thought for a long time that Six Flags needs to stop building new things and fix what it already has. Six Flags needs to focus on cleaning up its parks and fixing existing rides so visitors feel like they are getting good value and want to spend time there. Six Flags Texas is filthy, bathrooms don't work, rides are broken and lines are too long.

@nexpro6118

Жыл бұрын

They've been in over 1 billion dollars in debt since it's bankruptcy in 2009. At some point they have to start paying it down. That's what the job of the current CEO is. For him to start paying down it's MASSIVE debt.

@philipbiggs5883

Жыл бұрын

That's my home park also. You're right the bathrooms are always filthy. Cleanest one is by Titan. Also need to upgrade the food quality. We also need another looping coaster. Even a used one. Scream at Magic Mountain would work. Magic Mountain doesn't need it. Hardly anyone rides it.

@ChuckE.CheesesIllinois

14 күн бұрын

My home park is Great America and I hope for quality improvements over all the kids wanted the new RMC raptor or some shit

I often go to parks by myself so I am a HUGE fan of single-rider lines, and having just been to Busch Gardens, having a decent mobile app that shows things like wait times is a really nice feature as well. That said, I can see the danger of him trying to go down the Disney path of trying to upcharge everything, when you're still a regional park and not in the Disney class.

Six Flags really wants to become the Kmart of theme parks. If they aren't going to invest back into their parks and keep them updated they'll become outdated and fall into disrepair just like so many mid 20th century classic amusement parks did. Then they fall into the Kmart loop of decline: We can't update our stores because we don't have any money, but we can't make any money because our stores aren't updated.

@nexpro6118

Жыл бұрын

Love it how people with no business experience complain when, Magic Mountain doesn't add a new, 20 plus million coaster every year. Lol. The current, CEO was hired to help pay down, Magic Mountains MASSIVE DEBT. Magic Mountain has been trying to pay down it's debt since, 2009 when it went into bankruptcy. 2009, Magic Mountain was, 2.7 Billion in Debt. After bankruptcy, went down to 1.3 Billion. Since 2009, trying to pay down that 1.3 Billion in debt, Magic Mountain honestly hasn't really paid down the debt, they've just been paying on and really only paying down the interest payments since 2009. At some point, Magic Mountain has to start actually paying down the massive debt it has, or the majority share holders will end up selling the park to land/home developers that are already buying and building all around the park in Valencia right now. So for all of you, theme park "experts" if you want Magic Mountain to be around for another 50 years, they can't just always be in Billion dollar debts. Or.....pay triple the amount for park admission and don't complain about it and keep going while paying triple to get in. Disneyland and Calufornia adventure in Cali has such high park price admission because they build 100 plus million dollar themed rides. Typically, thrill ride coaster visitors don't have the income to spend 140 bucks on admission tickets like non thrill ride visitors do at Disneyland Parks. Thrill ride visitors guests are between the ages of, 24 to 34. Majority of people in this age group (closer to the 20s age group range) don't have the income to spend 140 plus to just get in a park. So.......just relax and stop crying and put your milk bottles down and be patient for about 3 years while Magic Mountain pays down it's debt. So no, Mr. "EXPERT" magic mountain cannot invest even more multi million dollar rides when at some point (like now) they have to pay down tge massive debt they have or within the next 5 to 10 years, they will have to start selling off its parks to cover and pay off the debt. Or, we can go with your plan and get even more into debt just to have a few more years of excitement just to then have no magic mountain to visit in 10 years.

@xygomorphic44

Жыл бұрын

@@nexpro6118 Do you work for the company? Because you seem to know a lot about their internal financial situation. I think they're forgetting who's paying for their tickets.

@nexpro6118

Жыл бұрын

@@xygomorphic44 its a public company. By law, every 3 months they have to publish its Financials

@nexpro6118

Жыл бұрын

@@xygomorphic44 also, forgot to mention. The law doesn't say how and where to publish its Financials to the public, so it can be hard to track down the real statements and current statements of the Financials. Typically, a tactic of a publicly traded company that isn't doing well financially, hides its published Financials online to make it hard to view. They use that tactic because when a company shows that it's not paying down it's debts and adds more to it, the stock price falls further, making the company even more in debt. It's a hard balancing act. I feel bad for the current CEO. It's on him to pay down the debts and make six flags money again while having the six flag "fans" bash him for not spending even more money that the banks won't let six flags borrow anymore.

@nexpro6118

Жыл бұрын

The 1.3 billion in current debt is its short term debt it's Long term debt is, 2.6 billion. Long term debt means, if six flags keeps going on its past/current track before the new CEO took over last year and it's current and past pace of new rides every year, a company can push out some debts over 10 years. So if six flags doesn't make any financial moves/ changes to start paying off its debts, in 10 years they will go from its 1.3 billion current debt to 2.6 billion in debts in just 10 years from now.

Makes sense. Something that is even more shocking is that Six Flags hasn't built a hyper coaster since 2006. That was Over Georgia's Goliath. Nothing that Six Flags has built since then has been taller.

@redwolfcorprevamped8266

Жыл бұрын

Also, Cedar Fair has opened 10 hypers since 2007. The three 230ft B&M hypers, the three B&M gigas, the two 223ft dive machines, I305, and SteVe.

Seriously- THANK YOU for using your brain and critical thinking, and daring to say something that goes against the norm. You’re absolutely right- given Six Flags’ chosen direction, it makes zero sense to take unnecessary risks right now. Leave that for when the chain isn’t in a downward, spiraling free fall. Pun intended. 😎

@AmusementLabs

Жыл бұрын

A downward spiral free fall would be an improvement tbh.

@nexpro6118

Жыл бұрын

Love it how people with no business experience complain when, Magic Mountain doesn't add a new, 20 plus million coaster every year. Lol. The current, CEO was hired to help pay down, Magic Mountains MASSIVE DEBT. Magic Mountain has been trying to pay down it's debt since, 2009 when it went into bankruptcy. 2009, Magic Mountain was, 2.7 Billion in Debt. After bankruptcy, went down to 1.3 Billion. Since 2009, trying to pay down that 1.3 Billion in debt, Magic Mountain honestly hasn't really paid down the debt, they've just been paying on and really only paying down the interest payments since 2009. At some point, Magic Mountain has to start actually paying down the massive debt it has, or the majority share holders will end up selling the park to land/home developers that are already buying and building all around the park in Valencia right now. So for all of you, theme park "experts" if you want Magic Mountain to be around for another 50 years, they can't just always be in Billion dollar debts. Or.....pay triple the amount for park admission and don't complain about it and keep going while paying triple to get in. Disneyland and Calufornia adventure in Cali has such high park price admission because they build 100 plus million dollar themed rides. Typically, thrill ride coaster visitors don't have the income to spend 140 bucks on admission tickets like non thrill ride visitors do at Disneyland Parks. Thrill ride visitors guests are between the ages of, 24 to 34. Majority of people in this age group (closer to the 20s age group range) don't have the income to spend 140 plus to just get in a park. So.......just relax and stop crying and put your milk bottles down and be patient for about 3 years while Magic Mountain pays down it's debt.

@nexpro6118

Жыл бұрын

@@Reality_a_thing after filling bankruptcy in 2009, they've been in debt just over 1 billion dollars. At some point, they have to pay that down. Which is the job of the current CEO to start doing now. If magic mountain keeps waiting with paying down the 1 billion plus in debt.....magic mountain will be sold off to land developers for homes within the next 5 to 10 years.

I don't mind a park not building something new for a year. If this plan streamlines the ride experience and they can put funding in a better layout, shorter lines, cleaner park and maybe a fresh coat of paint on everything.

Six Flags is smart to not invest in the Axis idea, it just screams problems. The one good thing about the RMC raptor prototype is that its simple, it doesn't reinvent the wheel but creates a simplified axel in which the wheel can turn. The more complex the rides get the more potential problems arise and for a brand like Six Flags they just can't afford those kinds of problems. Cedar Fair can afford to have a protoype or two get lost to the engineering dust bin, Six Flags needs to keep its head straight and just stick to fun, reliable rides for now. Dr. Diabolical was by far the most sensible choice, if anything they could use more dive coasters across more parks because that is what brings the GP.

Idea: improve the theming and the ride queues instead, and also build some more gentle rides as well as wild ones.

@kendallbedford2523

Жыл бұрын

I would say Magic Mountain could work on timelines for their coasters. Six Flags St Louis I can get through a long que line within 15 mins.

It wouldn't be fair to say that no Six Flags park will EVER get a new roller coaster again. However, I think it will definitely be a while before they do, as in at least a couple of years.

@jayo1212

Жыл бұрын

If they survive that long...

@williamhaynes7089

Жыл бұрын

Ceo will get fired when plan fails and then it will be massive upgrades

@StormC9101

Жыл бұрын

@@williamhaynes7089 yes. I would go as far as saying Selim Bassoul is CRIPPLING Six Flags.

We must bring back Jim Reid Anderson to being the Six Flags CEO!

@nexpro6118

Жыл бұрын

Love it how people with no business experience complain when, Magic Mountain doesn't add a new, 20 plus million coaster every year. Lol. The current, CEO was hired to help pay down, Magic Mountains MASSIVE DEBT. Magic Mountain has been trying to pay down it's debt since, 2009 when it went into bankruptcy. 2009, Magic Mountain was, 2.7 Billion in Debt. After bankruptcy, went down to 1.3 Billion. Since 2009, trying to pay down that 1.3 Billion in debt, Magic Mountain honestly hasn't really paid down the debt, they've just been paying on and really only paying down the interest payments since 2009. At some point, Magic Mountain has to start actually paying down the massive debt it has, or the majority share holders will end up selling the park to land/home developers that are already buying and building all around the park in Valencia right now. So for all of you, theme park "experts" if you want Magic Mountain to be around for another 50 years, they can't just always be in Billion dollar debts. Or.....pay triple the amount for park admission and don't complain about it and keep going while paying triple to get in. Disneyland and Calufornia adventure in Cali has such high park price admission because they build 100 plus million dollar themed rides. Typically, thrill ride coaster visitors don't have the income to spend 140 bucks on admission tickets like non thrill ride visitors do at Disneyland Parks. Thrill ride visitors guests are between the ages of, 24 to 34. Majority of people in this age group (closer to the 20s age group range) don't have the income to spend 140 plus to just get in a park. So.......just relax and stop crying and put your milk bottles down and be patient for about 3 years while Magic Mountain pays down it's debt. So no, Mr. "EXPERT" magic mountain cannot invest even more multi million dollar rides when at some point (like now) they have to pay down tge massive debt they have or within the next 5 to 10 years, they will have to start selling off its parks to cover and pay off the debt. Or, we can go with your plan and get even more into debt just to have a few more years of excitement just to then have no magic mountain to visit in 10 years.

I am super happy with my home park, Six Flags Magic Mountain but I do understand people frustration in smaller Six Flag markets. I think he is doing the RIGHT thing to focus on better technology. For too long Six Flags process for getting food etc has been like being at a park from 1990.

@nexpro6118

Жыл бұрын

I was born and raised just 35 minutes from Six Flags Magic Mountain in Valencia and went on average, 4 times a year from age, 12 to 17. It was awesome. Haven't been since, 2004 though.

I don’t agree with Six Flags’ strategy. This isn’t Disney or Universal. People go to Six Flags for roller coasters. That’s their niche. Not investing in new thrill rides is a mistake in my opinion. Some parks could stand to be cleaned up a bit and maybe improve the food. Otherwise stay in your lane and invest in great roller coasters. That’s why people go.

@Johnnyiswhere

Жыл бұрын

Well it’s not like all the coasters they’ve built will suddenly disappear. Most of they’re parks already have coasters.

@DDK_channel_1

Жыл бұрын

@@Johnnyiswhere when did he say they will dissapear, tf?

@Johnnyiswhere

Жыл бұрын

@@DDK_channel_1 I’m saying not building new coasters isn’t a bad thing. They already have enough with what they have…period

@michaezell4607

Жыл бұрын

@Tom W the problem for both SF as well as CF is that they own too many properties and simply don't have the budget for expensive new rides. A big part of what got the company into this financial mess in the first place was buying up too many parks and then dumping expensive coasters every other year into some of them WITHOUT waiting for the return on the investment but their biggest mistake was the pointless coaster arms race between MM and CP.. They should have invested those coasters into the parks that could have benefited from them more than SFMM just for the sake of winning a stupid title that the majority of the general public could care less about although CF is equally guilty of this as well by giving CP coaster after coaster when their smaller parks could benefit from such investments far more.

@DarvakSondrath

Жыл бұрын

@@Johnnyiswhere the problem with that is rides are constantly evolving, and people always want to see the next big new thrill. If Six Flags stops competing in the evolution and says, we have enough coasters, we don't need to build more, fans will eventually come to say, we're already rode all the six flag rides, we don't need to go to that park anymore. Universal's got a 5 new rides since we last went, lets go there instead. There's also the fact that rides have life cycles, they can only be repaired for so long before they need to be outright replaced. Some rides are at the end of that cycle. Other rides just need to be replaced because they are not popular, or were designed poorly and are costing the park more to maintain than they are earning.

If they improve the theming of the rides and the queue, instead of cheap tin buildings, and offer more then it could work for a year or two. But as the old saying goes, you have to spend money to make money. The main issue Six Flags has is that they have too many locations. And their CEO is an idiot. But the time the board figures this out, it will be too late.

The fact that the board has done nothing about Selim or at least talked to him about all of this or anything like that is concerning.

@AttractionIdeas

Жыл бұрын

I’m sure their PR guys are all over it. Everyone at Six Flags is very aware of the backlash. If not, then there are bigger problems over there than any of us even realize…

@Roccondil

Жыл бұрын

He's been with the company for barely a year, so maybe they are waiting to see how this pans out. Maybe this time next year he'll be out, or maybe this time next year it'll be too late...

@nexpro6118

Жыл бұрын

Love it how people with no business experience complain when, Magic Mountain (I'll be saying, Magic Mountain throughout but it will also mean, ALL six flag parks) doesn't add a new, 20 plus million coaster every year. Lol. The current, CEO was hired to help pay down, Magic Mountains MASSIVE DEBT. Magic Mountain has been trying to pay down it's debt since, 2009 when it went into bankruptcy. 2009, Magic Mountain was, 2.7 Billion in Debt. After bankruptcy, went down to 1.3 Billion. Since 2009, trying to pay down that 1.3 Billion in debt, Magic Mountain honestly hasn't really paid down the debt, they've just been paying on and really only paying down the interest payments since 2009. At some point, Magic Mountain has to start actually paying down the massive debt it has, or the majority share holders will end up selling the park to land/home developers that are already buying and building all around the park in Valencia right now. So for all of you, theme park "experts" if you want Magic Mountain to be around for another 50 years, they can't just always be in Billion dollar debts. Or.....pay triple the amount for park admission and don't complain about it and keep going while paying triple to get in. Disneyland and Calufornia adventure in Cali has such high park price admission because they build 100 plus million dollar themed rides. Typically, thrill ride coaster visitors don't have the income to spend 140 bucks on admission tickets like non thrill ride visitors do at Disneyland Parks. Thrill ride visitors guests are between the ages of, 24 to 34. Majority of people in this age group (closer to the 20s age group range) don't have the income to spend 140 plus to just get in a park. So.......just relax and stop crying and put your milk bottles down and be patient for about 3 years while Magic Mountain pays down it's debt. So no, Mr. "EXPERT" magic mountain cannot invest even more multi million dollar rides when at some point (like now) they have to pay down tge massive debt they have or within the next 5 to 10 years, they will have to start selling off its parks to cover and pay off the debt. Or, we can go with your plan and get even more into debt just to have a few more years of excitement just to then have no magic mountain to visit in 10 years.

If they really want to abandon the Walmart crowd they need to shed the lame parks.

@ronanmailhot8670

Жыл бұрын

Yeah! They should sell SFA to someone who wants to take care of it

@AdamSmith-gs2dv

Жыл бұрын

@@ronanmailhot8670 No wants it because the urban DC crowd sucks

Well at the very least they’re repainting nitro next season. They been doing a pretty good job with the repaints but unfortunately that’s where the positives end

@AttractionIdeas

Жыл бұрын

Yeah repainting is nice, but I don’t love it when they do it and try to sell it as a completely new ride… *cough* *cough* Medusa

@alecvip7562

Жыл бұрын

@@AttractionIdeas they didn't try to sell it as a new ride 💀

@AdamSmith-gs2dv

Жыл бұрын

Thank god that ride has looked horrible for so many years. What color is it going to be? Hopefully not the same ugly paint scheme it has now

@ninjagirl226

Жыл бұрын

I was at Great Escape recently…those rides need a repaint more than anything, but I don’t see them doing it.

@thegeniusman8757

Жыл бұрын

@@AdamSmith-gs2dv rumor has it that they will retheme it to Goliath

I saw this in my recommended and I figured I'd give my two cents. First of all, I'm not a fan of Selim. I think his statement about "Target customers" was out of touch and classist. I highly disagree with that, as well as his mentality of instantly increasing prices and expecting to change the parks overnight. That is not a good strategy from what I've seen. It's also concerning that his tenure is leading several officials to resign. It brings up a question of what his attitude towards staff/managers is. At the same time, when it comes to new rides, this was his exact quote: ""I think if you look at what we're introducing still this year, I think we've introduced, I think, a lot of rides, even though this has not been our priority going forward at least for the next two years." By his own admission, the "no new coasters" mentality is short-term. He wants to spend the next two years investing in other areas of the parks and making them worthy of the high prices. I am skeptical that he will accomplish this in such a short time period, but I can see why he would decide this. Cedar Point has gone through several multi-year periods without adding large-scale rides. He is discontinuing the "new ride every year at every park" practice in favor of focusing on other aspects of the park (special events, park maintenance, repainting rides, etc.). The season pass upgrade and maintenance system as it stands is garbage. For years, the only way to get a new season pass or update your information was to go to a special area in the park itself. Guests should be able to make plans easily online. I can understand wanting to invest in that. Single rider lines are a promising addition, as they will likely increase ride throughput and guest satisfaction. Special events give local guests more of a reason to head down to the park and buy season passes. Local guests are the heart and soul of these parks, and they are where the majority of the money comes from. Investing in technology and park infrastructure is actually a great idea on paper, even if I'm not certain Selim will do a good job with them. A lot of these parks have solely focused on adding one new ride every year and have neglected areas. I have been to several Six Flags parks where the non-DC-themed areas look borderline abandoned. As enthusiasts, it sucks when the hype over new coasters is stymied. But that is part of any hobby. There are good times and bad ones. Imagine being an enthusiast from 2005-2010, when many high-profile parks closed and there were limited coasters compared to years before. Even before Selim stepped in, apart from Dr. Diabolical, Six Flags hasn't gotten any huge/major non-converted coasters since X-Flight in 2012. I don't think we can solely blame Selim for prototypes/cheap coasters when that's what Six Flags has been doing for over a decade. So I don't think anything would realistically change or get worse from the guest perspective apart from the prices. People were quick to blame him when they thought Mr. Freeze was closing forever, but that ended up not being the case. Once again, this is NOT a defense of Selim. I'm skeptical about his statements and his alleged reception from park managers and employees. And his handling of the quarterly earnings call was poor. But when it comes to less investment in big rides in the short term, that's not necessarily a bad thing. You can't just plop in a carnival ride every year while several areas of your park look neglected.

@AttractionIdeas

Жыл бұрын

Very insightful comment. I’m okay with no new rides for a few years as well, but Selim has put the cart before the horse by raising prices before he’s actually improved the parks. I hope Selim is able to achieve what he wants to in the next few years and the parks can get back to somewhat regularly adding rides, but based on what he’s said and done so far, I’m not optimistic.

@ThemeParkCrazy

Жыл бұрын

@@AttractionIdeas I can understand not being optimistic based on what he's said. There's a lot I HEAVILY disagree with. That said, I have seen similar and arguably worse CEOs. Mark Shapiro did exactly the same thing Selim is doing when it comes to roller coasters; he invested much less in thrill rides to bring more families in. Dan Snyder was bizarre. He also owned the Washington Commanders (then known as Washington Redskins). In an apparent ego trip, he also put a Washington Redskins Slingshot ride at Six Flags New England. I think it would be interesting to look at Six Flags' past CEOs and chairmen, because there is a TON of controversy.

@nexpro6118

Жыл бұрын

You do realize the current CEOs job/orders from its board of directors and its majority shareholders are ordering him to start to pay down six flags MASSIVE 1 PLUS BILLION in debts now. Just before 2009, six flags had, 2.7 Billion in debts. After filling for bankruptcy in 2009, they had to still retain 1.3 Billion in debts. Since 2009, six flags hasn't paid down any of its debts, just added some more to it, only being able to afford to pay the interest on its debts.....you do know that businesses that are in the billion dollar plus debt range doesn't Stay in business long when it doesn't make an effort to pay down it's debts.....because banks will stop lending massive amounts of cash to six flags when it's obvious that six flags has no intention to pay down it's debts. What incentive do banks have to keep lending six flags cash to buy multi million dollar rides every year? Because this notion that six flags pays for its rides in cash and in one payment is so false. Rides that cost more than a few million dollars are all financed and not fully paid for up front. Six flags can only keep building multi million dollar rides every year, if it can keep boring hundreds of millions of dollars every year......banks have started to close its doors to six flags........next 3 years are going to be focused on making money now and paying down it's debts so in the next 5 to 7 years, six flags can start building massive and great rides again every year. From 1997 to 2004, six flags (especially magic mountain) was adding multi million dollar rides every year. At one year, 2003, Magic Mountain added 3 new rides that were all insanely expensive. Costing all on average, 15 to 20 million each. From 1993 to 2003, six flags added 1 billion dollars in new debt in just rides. Six flags is a business. Not a thrill ride charity.

I've always said that six flags needs to take break from buying new rides and focus on infrastructure. New infrastructure will make everything easier in the future and is the best place to start. All the parks need to be cleaned up and better organized. Once that is done, then focus on new rides. And yea, down time and maintenance cost should be a factor. That can often cost way more than purchase price

Huh, it is almost like Celine is watching what Bob Chaepeck(sp) is doing to Disney and is trying to emulate that. The things that Bob is doing that is slowly ruining Disney's reputation and standing in the industry. But since Six Flags doesn't have the nostalgic feelings and cult following as Disney they're going to fail much faster than Disney. Also, I don't understand why there isn't something written in the plan and/or contract of prototype coasters where it would be built, studied during the season, and adjusted during the off season until it either works well enough or the project is abandoned and replaced.

It’d be dope if six flags made a specific park called prototype Valley, and all they have are prototypes with a questionnaire after as to which rides they’d like to see in the real parks

@arthurduncan5838

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… if you live to fill one out. 😂

Six Flags not investing in roller coasters is like Microsoft neglecting to invest in software. It just doesn’t make any sense

I think Michigan’s Adventure Plan for Six Flags overall isn’t the greatest. Yeah, Magic Mountain can stand to just get beautification along with Great America, but other parks need replacement roller coasters and other rides. Six Flags Over Texas has a lot of rides nearing the end of their life like Judge Roy Scream or Titan. Both are requiring lots of maintenance to keep going. Hell, I never saw Judge Roy Scream open this year. You can’t just finally open Aquaman and call it a day. That’s not even getting to parks like Frontier City or Great Escape. If you want Universal prestige, you need to have that level of park and rides. If half your rides are going to fall apart in the next three years, you might have an issue, and no amount of better benches and trash cans are going to solve it.

@1of8plusbillion

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Michigan’s Adventure?

@ryanmcguffee4046

Жыл бұрын

This is like at the end of Roller Coaster Tycoon when you can’t take any more loan money out and you’re just spending your $184 on landscaping because you can’t afford a pizza stall.

@countofarcadia

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@@1of8plusbillion Michigan's Adventure gets joked about getting a new trashcan every year. Or a bench. And then blowing their whole budget on a bench that prevents them from adding a new ride. The real reason is that they can only stay open a really short amount of time due to the shorter season in Michigan, and Cedar Fair just can't see spending lots of money on the park that probably has the most underdeveloped amount of land in the Cedar Fair chain at 250 acres with the park taking up a small amount of it. So if you ever see someone joking about Michigan Adventure, that's why. They did get some kid's rides in 2021 which was meant to open in 2020. During the recent Cedar Fair expansion announcements, Michigan Adventure got . . . an ad for a Frozen Coke at McDonalds.

@rexnewcombe8337

Жыл бұрын

They did take out several older rides at SF Discovery Kingdom in California,and put in the new Safari Sidewinder spinning mouse. But attendance is not that good and they have increased the price .

@chrismdb5686

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@@countofarcadia What do you mean shorter? Isn't it a typical seasonal park that's open from late May or Halloween with some gaps in between (such as weekends only to start and end the season)?

That man will run the company into the ground, but he will somehow get plenty of chances along the way and never deliver on them. Have to love people who get to fail up.

@nexpro6118

Жыл бұрын

You do realize the current CEOs job/orders from its board of directors and its majority shareholders are ordering him to start to pay down six flags MASSIVE 1 PLUS BILLION in debts now. Just before 2009, six flags had, 2.7 Billion in debts. After filling for bankruptcy in 2009, they had to still retain 1.3 Billion in debts. Since 2009, six flags hasn't paid down any of its debts, just added some more to it, only being able to afford to pay the interest on its debts.....you do know that businesses that are in the billion dollar plus debt range doesn't Stay in business long when it doesn't make an effort to pay down it's debts.....because banks will stop lending massive amounts of cash to six flags when it's obvious that six flags has no intention to pay down it's debts. What incentive do banks have to keep lending six flags cash to buy multi million dollar rides every year? Because this notion that six flags pays for its rides in cash and in one payment is so false. Rides that cost more than a few million dollars are all financed and not fully paid for up front. Six flags can only keep building multi million dollar rides every year, if it can keep boring hundreds of millions of dollars every year......banks have started to close its doors to six flags........next 3 years are going to be focused on making money now and paying down it's debts so in the next 5 to 7 years, six flags can start building massive and great rides again every year. From 1997 to 2004, six flags (especially magic mountain) was adding multi million dollar rides every year. At one year, 2003, Magic Mountain added 3 new rides that were all insanely expensive. Costing all on average, 15 to 20 million each. From 1993 to 2003, six flags added 1 billion dollars in new debt in just rides. Six flags is a business. Not a thrill ride charity.

Rumor has it that Great America IS getting a "new" ride next year. By that I mean that American Eagle will FINALLY race again for the first time in recent memory. That alone is enough to make me want to bring my kids next year. They've never been on a fully operational racing woodie ever.

Wait didn’t they just change there pass system and from what I heard is make it even more expensive? I hate this chain. There’s only pain

@AttractionIdeas

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Fantastic solution after the piss poor quarter they just had…

I agree with what other have said if they aren’t adding rides at least add park upgrades and refurbishments. Great America is actually my home park and if they were able to get American eagle to dual reliably again I would be so happy! Also I think great America could do better with advertising the park. I live in Chicago and have never seen one ad for it there. Chicago gets 55 million tourists a year and I doubt most of them know there’s a theme park about an hour north of it.

@CaptainMauzer

Жыл бұрын

Oh, no. They are more concerned with ruining the Americana theme of the park by returning areas with poorly done DC decor (if you haven’t been in recent months…oh my what they did to the area around Batman is comically bad).

Great video! I love that now we get some coaster community interaction.

I've already not renewed my Season Pass this year because of this, and I have had a season pass almost every year for the past 10 years and always buy a gold flash past for my group every visit. But this new development brought it to the end for me.

@nexpro6118

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Love it how people with no business experience complain when, Magic Mountain doesn't add a new, 20 plus million coaster every year. Lol. The current, CEO was hired to help pay down, Magic Mountains MASSIVE DEBT. Magic Mountain has been trying to pay down it's debt since, 2009 when it went into bankruptcy. 2009, Magic Mountain was, 2.7 Billion in Debt. After bankruptcy, went down to 1.3 Billion. Since 2009, trying to pay down that 1.3 Billion in debt, Magic Mountain honestly hasn't really paid down the debt, they've just been paying on and really only paying down the interest payments since 2009. At some point, Magic Mountain has to start actually paying down the massive debt it has, or the majority share holders will end up selling the park to land/home developers that are already buying and building all around the park in Valencia right now. So for all of you, theme park "experts" if you want Magic Mountain to be around for another 50 years, they can't just always be in Billion dollar debts. Or.....pay triple the amount for park admission and don't complain about it and keep going while paying triple to get in. Disneyland and Calufornia adventure in Cali has such high park price admission because they build 100 plus million dollar themed rides. Typically, thrill ride coaster visitors don't have the income to spend 140 bucks on admission tickets like non thrill ride visitors do at Disneyland Parks. Thrill ride visitors guests are between the ages of, 24 to 34. Majority of people in this age group (closer to the 20s age group range) don't have the income to spend 140 plus to just get in a park. So.......just relax and stop crying and put your milk bottles down and be patient for about 3 years while Magic Mountain pays down it's debt. So no, Mr. "EXPERT" magic mountain cannot invest even more multi million dollar rides when at some point (like now) they have to pay down tge massive debt they have or within the next 5 to 10 years, they will have to start selling off its parks to cover and pay off the debt. Or, we can go with your plan and get even more into debt just to have a few more years of excitement just to then have no magic mountain to visit in 10 years.

@danniboi187

Жыл бұрын

​@@nexpro6118 Try this again without all the self-rightous sarcasm at the end. It will make your arguments much more approachable.

@nexpro6118

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@@danniboi187 self righteous to you because I explained something that is simple business theory and tactics and strategy? I mean, ok yeah, I'll admit I explained in a non 2nd grade explanation way, but can we act like an adult for a few minutes and not get butt hurt because you feel like you maybe missed the mark on not knowing this Information and your defense mechanism is to lash out with name calling to not feel so ignorant? Is that maybe it? Am I tracking?

@danniboi187

Жыл бұрын

@@nexpro6118 there were go again. Just explain it without all the attitude. You'll get a better reception.

@nexpro6118

Жыл бұрын

@@danniboi187 kinda ironic how someone who uses name calling and sarcasm on someone is calling out someone who is doing the same thing. Lol irony, hypocrite, arrogance.....anything else I'm missing on describing you? Lol

Actually though, I'm cool with six flags, especially the "lower tier" parks fixing things, painting, paving, replacing rusty bars and fences, replacing, retracking, or RMCing old rough coasters, etc. hopefully helping them rise up from lower tier status.

Love the new videos!! If you want to you should make another theming on a budget. Those are my favorites Edit: Maybe mystic Timbers or Orion

@AttractionIdeas

Жыл бұрын

Won’t count it out

I remember going to six flags great America a lot as a kid when I used to live in Illinois. Crazy how much it has changed but also yet stayed the same 😅

I’m honestly surprised Six Flags purchased another raptor from RMC after Jersey Devil. For those who may be unaware, that ride has been a maintenance headache for Great Adventure. You can usually expect it to go down a few times a day.

Wow! The way you called out other channels with their “predictions/guarantees” but in a respectful way! Gain my sub and like! Great video and breakdown!

I'm glad I managed to go to my local one with a friend before all the stuff surrounding this nightmare scenario started taking place. It was also weirdly either a day before or the day el toro derailed and we missed it cause when we rode it it was completely fine but someone in the ride before of us had motion sickness of some kind and they had to wash out the ride car due to them vomiting in it which caused a slight delay of a few minutes. It was my first time there in over a decade and it was generally a good time.

Also the park said el toro is going to re open which great but please actually take good care of it

@seanlewis1148

Жыл бұрын

😒

Absolutely love your content! Feel like this video is the only one I’ve been shaking my head yes too while watching lately lol

How to fix six flags: 1. fire selim 2. lower costs for tickets 3. manage the rides better 4. more rides either original or from one WB's IPs (i.e. Rick and Morty, Ed, Edd, n Eddy, RWBY, the monsterverse, etc) 5. have stuff promoting RWBY so RT can give us volume 9 faster(this is more of a personal thing)

@nexpro6118

Жыл бұрын

You do realize the current CEOs job/orders from its board of directors and its majority shareholders are ordering him to start to pay down six flags MASSIVE 1 PLUS BILLION in debts now. Just before 2009, six flags had, 2.7 Billion in debts. After filling for bankruptcy in 2009, they had to still retain 1.3 Billion in debts. Since 2009, six flags hasn't paid down any of its debts, just added some more to it, only being able to afford to pay the interest on its debts.....you do know that businesses that are in the billion dollar plus debt range doesn't Stay in business long when it doesn't make an effort to pay down it's debts.....because banks will stop lending massive amounts of cash to six flags when it's obvious that six flags has no intention to pay down it's debts. What incentive do banks have to keep lending six flags cash to buy multi million dollar rides every year? Because this notion that six flags pays for its rides in cash and in one payment is so false. Rides that cost more than a few million dollars are all financed and not fully paid for up front. Six flags can only keep building multi million dollar rides every year, if it can keep boring hundreds of millions of dollars every year......banks have started to close its doors to six flags........next 3 years are going to be focused on making money now and paying down it's debts so in the next 5 to 7 years, six flags can start building massive and great rides again every year. From 1997 to 2004, six flags (especially magic mountain) was adding multi million dollar rides every year. At one year, 2003, Magic Mountain added 3 new rides that were all insanely expensive. Costing all on average, 15 to 20 million each. From 1993 to 2003, six flags added 1 billion dollars in new debt in just rides. Six flags is a business. Not a thrill ride charity. Your plan will just add even more debts. Here's some advise. Don't ever own your own business. You'll bankrupt your family. Lower admission costs on top of your ideas?????? Yeah, having to pay higher wages with minimum wages going up while at the same time, charging even less to get in. Charging small amounts for admission Draws in a demographic of people will less disposable income, which means they will spend even less while inside the park. How the hell are you going to make money? Also, these demographics brings in unruly crowds. Why do you think Disneyland parks never have guests safety issues with other guests???? Because this type type demographic of people can't afford Disneyland parks and Disney likes that.

I remember when playing roller coaster tycoon and even in that computer game, after awhile people got tired of certain rides. So then if your space is limited, you have to start building new rides to keep people coming back. I remember many years ago, I was excited when six flags had a new ride. It's what gets you hyped up. I remember at Great America, when they built Hurricane Harbor, that was awesome. But to access Harbor, I believe you had to walk into the Six Flags park. The inconvenience is where you park your car because you would be walking a long way with your swim suite. And lockers, be ready to fork out like 15 or 20 dollars. I remember one time I wanted to go to Hurricane Harbor and ironically they were only open on weekends. It's great when parks offer options to ride roller coasters and water parks, but it's kind of hard to do both in one day and then having to carry everything with you. For how far people have to walk, at least some of these parks offer a shuttle or a bus. I don't recall six flags great america ever offering this as an option. As I get older, it's the long drive just to get to six flags that I don't look forward to. Then when all there is to do is go on rides, it's not what I'm into that much anymore. I prefer going to the shows etc or doing other activities that aren't just going on rides. The last time I went to great america was over 10 years ago. They are supposed to be the cleanest park and the parking lot after I left was just trashed. Then of course worse thing is to use their restrooms when it smells like a smoke house because designated smoking zones from what I remember were just outside of the restrooms. I just remember for freight fest the weather was so cold and I felt so lonely because I went by myself.

Counter point: Theme Park enthusiasts who grew up during the Coaster Wars have unrealistic expectations of how often parks should receive major new attractions. That business model was proven to be unsustainable in the long run, because it required that companies carry massive amounts of debt for years on end. And then in 2008 and again in 2020, when revenue streams were interrupted, the debt became a dangerous liability.

AI, great video, I just found your channel, i will check out some more of your vids. I subscribed to your channel!

Six Flags needs to focus on maintaining the rides and parks they currently have. Great America Gurnee has a terrible parking lot (now collecting $35 per car), bathrooms smell terrible, wooden coasters are rickety, poor night lighting and rides not open.

@sidneyshaw9205

Жыл бұрын

Do you still live iǹ Arizona? Or are you in Michigan?

I recognize the voice of Looping Thrills in many of those clips from prediction videos. His definitely seem to be shameless clickbait. This makes me glad that I shy away from prediction videos, but one of the very few I’ve made was almost correct so I’m mostly in the clear.

@studioshorts4342

Жыл бұрын

Facts

Selim Bassoul is doing the Discount Chain Coaster Additions with the Cedar Fair/Seaworld pricing/ weird that both of those chains get more rides than Six Flags

Disney needs both a fifth gate and to upgrade their existing parks.

Dude I love your knowledge about theme parks… literally amazes me!! Thanks for these videos! Grew up going to six flags and being older it’s wild to see how cheap they actually were

I saw a post on Six Flags Great America’s Instagram about what people’s favorite water slide was, and someone responded “Get A New CEO” and it had 13 likes on it

“Axis has Six Flags written all over it” I mean, Axis backwards has the word Six in it, but other than that I didn’t even think back then that this would come to Six Flags before Cedar Fair.

@CrumsTheCreator

Жыл бұрын

I’d go with the SeaWorld parks. They have a massive track record with prototypes. First B&M Hyper - Apollos First Large scale dives machines. Falcons fury drop tower prototype First Surf Coaster. And I think the Atlantis water coasters were the first of their kind. Big Bad Wolf was the 2nd suspended arrow but was the first to consistently function.

Damn I wonder wtf would they do with all that space in Gurnee, IL once Six Flags closes??

Having just ridden steal curtain a few days ago, steel curtain is a darn good ride. I hope they can iron out the bugs.

Nice report! You got a great voice for this kind of thing.

I could see SFDK getting a Larson/ARM drop Tower because of the 150 ft height limit, & those drop towers are only 140 ft tall

was at Gurnee over the weekend and so many weeds/overgrown grounds were everywhere. no signs of where rides were. no qr code map or paper maps. still had fun on maxx force! still havent been on a scary ride at 6 flags.

I do have a little bit of knowledge I can share on the topic. Great America is never getting a raptor and Eagle is not going to be RMCd. Buccaneer Battle all though listed as a temporary closure has been closed permanently to make way for a now scrapped large flat ride.

@devinbaeten13

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

Yeah I'm not too thrilled about Zambezi at WoF. I get it, it pays homage to the original (even though you can actually still ride it in Colombia where it was relocated) but still we should have gotten something more modern like a launch coaster. Sure this coaster will probably be great at first but like any other traditional woody it will be rougher than a old arrow coaster by it's 5th year. Granted it has Titan track in parts of the ride which is another thing that bothers me, I feel like that's lazy. Why not make the entire track Titan track?

@staringcorgi6475

Жыл бұрын

But gci made it not dinn corp

@beardedswordsman2901

Жыл бұрын

@@staringcorgi6475 I know it's a gci. I'm not sure what you are getting at.

Is that Movin Right Along from the Muppets instrumental in the background of your video? Aka the instrumental soundtrack from Muppets Courtyard at Hollywood Studios ? 😂

@AttractionIdeas

Жыл бұрын

Yessir

@beyond_the_thrills

Жыл бұрын

@@AttractionIdeas I made a video about Muppet vision with the same background music on my channel lol

I honestly think that your 100% right. All this speculation about Great America is bull as well. It's a great park the way it is but with all the violence and even the recent shooting that happened there, I think the park isn't gonna get anything. They instead are gonna focus on security and purging out any undesirable guests. Once they think they've done this, thats when the parks gonna get a new attraction but that won't be for a few years at least and if they do get a new ride, like you said it's probably gonna be a cheap RMC conversion of American Eagle.

I love this they want you to use your phone for all this stuff but how you going to get on the ride after you show your flash pass when you can't bring your phone with you

Steel Curtain isn't all that bad in form of operations plus its gotten a lot better and overall when it isn't having a major break down it is consitily operating and you can usually find it open more than closed and they have been consittitly running both trains recently with barley any issues now

@AttractionIdeas

Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear that. The first couple years for that ride were pretty tumultuous

@Seda314

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Regarding Steel Curtain: It went down for a few weeks between June-July, but they got it back open quicker this time. When they announced the closure, it was Pre-July 4th and they announced they had no eta for it to return. Guess they managed to pull a miracle out of their hat to get it open again in the season. (That downtime coincided with another of Kennywood's coasters -- Thunderbolt-- also being closed temporarily mid season... retracking, maybe?... just bad timing again, but faster bounce back)

I'm dying to see what SFNE will do with the spot where Goliath was. Happy to see it gone, but I hope they use the space for something good. I'd personally like it if they took out Flashback as well and intalled a larger coaster to take the place of both.

Cedar point retired the dragster. Man there was nothing like the jet sound during the launch.

So true about Maxx Force, Steel Curtain, and Skyrush

I heard Vekoma was too busy to build Steel Curtain, so it got contracted to S&S, which are owned by the same company-so Steel Curtain is really Vekoma's fault

@collinparsons3363

Жыл бұрын

Vekoma and S&S have the same parent company, but only S&S is working in North America at the moment.

@Jcoaster95

Жыл бұрын

@@collinparsons3363 that's not true... Vekoma has been building lots of junior suspended coasters in north america even tho S&S has a similar model. Plus the 2 new Disney coasters

Honestly, Maxx Force hasn't had that many issues. Especially compared to other launch coasters like TTD. It's actually open most of the time, and with 2 trains the line actually moves pretty fast. I totally agree with some of your other takes tho... There's literally nowhere to put an Axis coaster at Great America 🥴 and after DejaVu, the park has avoided prototypes. Maxx Force is nowhere near a prototype... It's literally at least the 3rd or 4th generation ride of it's type. Goliath and X-Flight were the *second* coaster of their type to be built. They learned their lesson when it comes to taking risks like that.

I canceled my membership because of all the small kiddy rides being added. I won’t get another membership until some LARGE ROLLERCOASTERS are in the future. Lots of people in the Dallas/Fort Worth area are saying the same thing.

@RY30DM

Жыл бұрын

Aquaman will be plenty large when it opens

I can see why he isn't building new coasters for now, because the two California Six Flags each has a new coaster. One in Magic Mt. Wonder Woman, and the other at Discovery Kingdom, Safari Sidewinder. Also they have been taking out some of the old rides and refurbishing the Rapids ride there.

@xBINARYGODx

Жыл бұрын

so new two rides the west coast and thats that? The north east locations are dropped into the most pop dense parts of the country - ignoring them becase cali got two new rides seems rather dumb to me - but the man in charge has other stupid things he is doing (that are not proving out to be good for profit) so this doesnt seem like a good idea for many reasons.

@AbandonedMines11

Жыл бұрын

@@xBINARYGODx But keep in mind that the two California parks are open year-round whereas nearly every other Six Flags park is closed during the fall and winter due to the weather.

Idk how this chanel have that low subs 🤔 It should be around 100k even in such niche topic.

@AttractionIdeas

Жыл бұрын

That would be pretty cool

@baconfeatureschannel3480

Жыл бұрын

Same

@Weryl

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@@AttractionIdeas BTW i gonna be surprised if Six Flags Magic Mountain that easily give up his spot as a park with the most Rollercoasters in the World coz this year Energylandia (Zator, Poland) is getting their 18,19 ride, and also in mid to late 2023 they are getting a Vekoma Tilt Coaster as their 20 ride and likely they will be getting atleast 1 more rides for their 10th anniversary in 2024.

I’m praying the chain folds and their parks get sold off with Cedar Fair buying Great America. It’s located far enough from CP and VF that there would’ve be any competition concerns.

@Amrepdude499

Жыл бұрын

More than likely if the chain folded and the parks got sold they’d be sold to housing developers. Be careful what you wish for

@ChuckE.CheesesIllinois

Жыл бұрын

That, plus they have the other Great America

I didn't step foot in a Six flags park this year, and looks like I won't next year either especially since there is nothing new

I wouldn't mind holding off on a new ride for a year or two if they increased the theming of the parks. I mean, I doubt it's going to happen, but I can hope for better theming.

Skyrush has a sister coaster with Flying Aces in UAE and although many prototype coasters are good in theory often times they are botched and not assembled properly like the fully refined ones are few examples of a successful protype is condor now yes it is very rough and is my second least favourite coaster the SLC is acctually one of the most successful models since vekoma managed to sell loads of them

@AdamSmith-gs2dv

Жыл бұрын

Hyperion at Energylandia is also very similar

Odd. The SF website references annual memberships as THRILL SEEKER passes (Gold, Platinum, and Diamond).

We are going to Six Flags less often because the majority of the rides (and especially the rides that are open) are the crazy extreme roller coasters. We, and our children, don’t care for those. The nice, fun, enjoyable family rides are almost non-existent, or are always closed. We’re tired of paying good money only to find closed rides. There’s a reason Disney is so popular without having crazy extreme rides. Six Flags just doesn’t seem to get that concept!

@jenniferlawrence9652

Жыл бұрын

I feel the same way..need more family rides to enjoy with the kids ...there is baby rides and roller coaster but not much to enjoy with let's say for kids ages 6 to 12 to enjoy or even for older kids that don't like roller coasters

@williamhaynes7089

Жыл бұрын

i feel the opposite. i would rather ride a real ride than hug micky mouse

@nexpro6118

Жыл бұрын

Six flags, especially Magic Mountain is not aimed towards majority of family style guests.....that's for Disneyland. Do people really think that six flags parks can become a family park and compete with Disney parks? Lmao good luck

I feel magic mountain is the favorite child of the six flags chain 😂🚨❗️

Cedar Fair is grandfathered as an MLP. They are required to distribute their “distributable” cash to unit holders. So in order to keep more money invested in the business, they spend more on attractions in order to reduce distributable cash flow.

The celebration music in the background is legitimately hilarious

I literally live 5 Mins from Six Flags Great America and I have never been on Maxx Force. It’s always being worked on when I am there.

I swear Selim is running Six Flags like the only parks are Magic Mountain, Great Adventure, and Great America. Those are the only parks that really do have all the coasters they need and could use some beautification and family-friendly atmosphere improvements. Every Six Flags park is different and has different needs.

Actually Aquaman power splash was met for six flags Dubai years ago so that ride has been around for a long time but came out really sad.

Nice take! Entertaining too. Might want to add disclaimer that you're not arguing or disputing or hating on other channels (Which I assume you arent) this is all for fun speculation afterall right? and that sweet sweet ad revenue

Frankly, infrastructure is something more parks should focus on. It's ok adding coasters or attractions every year, but (at least on the last park days I had) finding ways around the park or things in them for customer comfort. I hope the idea of adjusting infrastructure for the next few years could indeed be a strategic move (especially as the major issue I keep hearing about SFMM is navigating it) to make space or sensible navigation issues FOR new attractions. The idea of having everything controlled via app is the best move too. Seeing Flash Pass tags and suff was always concerning - with the idea they were going to fall off. As someone who wears a watch I also don't want to be in LA and have, say, a magic band (for Disney hotel access), a watch and a flash pass/queues jump wristband. I don't think going "oh noes, no rides now" is the best option. If you don't agree with the moves being made, look at alternatives in your region. Let's be fair, most markets have at least one alternative to Six Flags parks. I definitely think it'll be worth watching them for the next few years before declaring Six Flags "dead" and claiming the CEO doesn't know anything - this could actually be a sensible move in the long run especially after the massive crash the hospitality industry has taken. Covid may be behind us but think of the hundreds of millions of dollars SF/CF and the like lost over that period...

Dead is Six Flags Magic Mountain, currently a low car count in the parking lot. I hope that the park will not be torn down/removed and replaced with ugly houses/dwellings like the units above it!

They really need to fix the looks of the six flags parks like maintaining rides so there not as rough . Also the looks of the parks like new coats of paint new path ways and stuff

Oh god that guy is straight cheeze, “great America is getting a new coaster for 2023 I’m POSITIVE about it”.

So something funny about the axis prototype is that according to the park president at six flags fiesta texas Jeffery, it was a 50/50 shot. They actually were looking at axis but then we got our dive coaster instead. So yeah it’s funny that everyone and there brothers thought axis.

@AttractionIdeas

Жыл бұрын

If that’s true I may have to give those predictors a bit more credit…

Six Flags Great America would have a ton more room if they built a parking garage...

“As the season comes to a close”. Can’t relate, I live near Magic Mountain

Me and my wife went to sfne couple weeks ago,and ill say we had a blast but they need a total reface.

I fully agree with you bro, enjoying your videos.

Magic Mountain doesn't need new rides. In fact, I would be most happy if they didn't add anything new for the next decade and upgraded/refurbished their current rides. Simple changes that would make the rides far more enjoyable: WCR: Take those god awful seatbelts out and replace them with either vests or regular lap seat belts. Viper: Lap bars X2: Fix the shaking for god's sake! Riddler's Revenge: Sit down/floorless conversion. Ideally sit-down because we already have a floorless Scream: Theme and landscape the ride!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Everything else I would say is good for now. As for whatever their next ride would be, I would hope for an Apocalypse RMC or at least something to make that rough, forceless woodie worth waiting for.

The only non-ride thing I think would make the parks much better is landscaping an maintenance everywhere continuously all year... I haven't been to SFoT in ages but it's consistently glaring that theming is broken, dirty, or just gone because it is cheaper to not have a pool of water or to replace dead plants... or to pay someone to clean. That would help create a more "premium" experience like the CEO says he wants to do... and not require new rides.

Zambezi zinger 2 I'm waiting for I remember the old one and loved it hopefully this has the same classic ride as the other one did but only bad thing I didn't see the tunnel with the new one 🙄

Six Flags is as much fun as a root canal and the new trajectory guarantees that just like the past 18 years I will be somewhere else with a smile. I have never left a park feeling so depressed like I have at six flags.....it made me feel poor cuz it was so busted.

I still have to visit SixFlags this coming month, when the heat wave is done.

Skyrush isn’t the only kind of its model. Flying Aces at Ferrari World Abu Dhabi was built in 2016 and is the same model.

I agree with maxx force having a long line because of capacity, but saying the ride has a lot of downtime? I don’t know if I’m just lucky but I’ve gone to six flags great America 5 times this month and maxx force went down once or twice for a couple minutes (I think when I was waiting in line the ride was down for 4 minutes) and also it’s extremely likely that the reason more S&S air launch wasn’t built was because of covid, but more air launch’s were built mostly in asia, I think your a good KZreadr but sometimes I really don’t know what your talking about

Six Flags I love them, but that's why I like Cedar Fair parks more. My Local Coney Island Luna Park is putting some new rides and effort more than this.

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Coney Island is actually ran by Zamperla and it's their testing ground for their rides