Sire Marcus Miller P8 electric bass unboxing, demo + head-to-head vs. Fender & Schecter

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This is going to be my last new bass demo video for a while, so I've made it a blow-out. In addition to unboxing and demoing a few of the myriad sounds of the Sire Marcus Miller P8, I compare it head-to-head vs. the Fender Player Jazz Bass, Schecter Stiletto Studio, and even the Fender American Ultra Jazz Bass.
tl;dr The Sire is my favorite.
CHAPTERS
0:04 Part One: What Am I Doing?
3:11 Part Two: First Impressions
5:53 Part Three: Tone Demos
7:54 Part Four: Head-to-Head
9:29 Part Five: Conclusions
Correction: 7:35 Yes, in fact it was a couple of weeks before I realized that the passive tone control functions even when you're in active mode, and although I had the active treble EQ turned up during this test, the passive tone was turned all the way down.
Part of the reason I won't be producing as many new bass videos in the coming months is that I am going to be refocusing on reeds, as I play clarinet and bass clarinet (plus a bit of tenor sax) for the Chaska Valley Family Theatre production of A Christmas Carol, in Chanhassen, MN, December 1-3 and 7-10. Check it out!
www.cvft.org/christmascarol2023

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  • @room34
    @room34Ай бұрын

    IT DIED ON STAGE AND I SOLD IT. I feel like that really needs to be stated clearly here. I loved this bass at first, but the output jack has a fundamental design flaw. I couldn't trust it after that. I could have replaced the jack, but I decided to sell it instead.

  • @Thrustql

    @Thrustql

    Ай бұрын

    Tough.. probably should have replaced it though

  • @DrJedd

    @DrJedd

    Ай бұрын

    I understand the frustration. I have a Sire guitar and the electronic gave up quick. This is how Sire gets the prices that low, there's no magic! Apart from the jack socket, did you experience any other issues with the bass?

  • @WoWwYnAtoR
    @WoWwYnAtoR5 ай бұрын

    Nicely done. I particularly love your outro tune! 👂🤌💯🧡🎸

  • @YouveAFriend
    @YouveAFriend3 ай бұрын

    Thats a very helpful reply you post, that you fell out with it and sold it.👍

  • @scottt9876
    @scottt9876Ай бұрын

    I appreciate you. This is great content and you seem very honest without an agenda. Thank you.

  • @davidhull6332
    @davidhull63328 ай бұрын

    Wow I feel the same way about the headstocks, amazing you play that many instruments - great video. 👍🏽

  • @Partybob1
    @Partybob18 ай бұрын

    The Price is Right! Great theme! Thanks for the vid.

  • @jhabarretto9697
    @jhabarretto96979 ай бұрын

    Just got a Sire V8 and I LOVE it, Flawless and same gig bag.

  • @valendis

    @valendis

    6 ай бұрын

    I'm waiting for mine to arrive! can't wait that transparent white one looks so good with the bindings and the inlays!

  • @BB-fk1wf
    @BB-fk1wf4 ай бұрын

    This channel is a hidden gem in the sea of s*it often produced on social media. Well done!

  • @MooreBass
    @MooreBass6 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the video. I have a P5R and a V5, love the way they play and the tone, as well great build quality. And the headstock, hmm? I like it! LOL!

  • @pjmuck
    @pjmuck5 ай бұрын

    I've played Sire basses (V7) almost exclusively live for the past 7 years. They are incredible bang for the buck instruments, but there are 2 negatives worth mentioning. 1. They're all pretty heavy. I've yet to encounter one under 9-1/2 lbs. 2. The input jack will eventually go and need to be replaced. 3. I find the newer battery compartment covers annoying. The V1s had simple flip up battery covers for much quicker battery replacement.

  • @room34

    @room34

    5 ай бұрын

    Well… sad to say a few weeks after I posted this video, the jack cut out on me - on stage - and I lost a lot of love for the instrument. I inspected it and determined the terminal pin inside is just too flimsy and bends out of shape easily with ordinary use. It would need to be replaced, but then I decided I also didn’t like the stacked knobs. They were binding up a bit, and the knobs themselves felt cheap. But because of their non-standard design they’re not easy to swap out. Things that could be fixed, but they made me lose my love for the instrument. So once again… I sold it.

  • @Sir_P

    @Sir_P

    3 ай бұрын

    The second generations are very light, the first gens were heavy though, very

  • @thomasecallaghan1111
    @thomasecallaghan11112 ай бұрын

    lovely sweet sax outro dude!

  • @Yaksonator
    @Yaksonator8 ай бұрын

    I must’ve gotten lucky with my fender elites, Jazz and precision 4 strings. They’re the best instruments I’ve ever owned. Settle on those after a bunch of higher end instruments. I like these videos!

  • @room34

    @room34

    8 ай бұрын

    Elite was a completely different beast from Ultra, and I think QC on the Ultras has really fallen off in the past couple of years.

  • @giovannibonapace4250
    @giovannibonapace42508 ай бұрын

    I defretted a v7 with an ebony fretboard and it's super sweet ... it looks nice with block inlays ... i asked a luthier to laquer the neck n put a skunk stripe too ahaha

  • @nhhhhmm7064
    @nhhhhmm70649 ай бұрын

    I loved the video :) That bass is a beast. also, I recommend you to try the Yamaha BB734A.

  • @room34

    @room34

    9 ай бұрын

    It’s funny… I am generally a Yamaha enthusiast. I own all 4 of the Reface mini keyboards, and a Yamaha clarinet and bass clarinet. I _know_ they make great gear. But there’s something about their guitars and basses… they just look weird to me. I’m sure they are quality instruments but I can’t get excited about their appearance.

  • @johnjtrischettijr6439
    @johnjtrischettijr6439Ай бұрын

    I own a fender Jazz ultra V and I couldn’t disagree more with your assessment of the instrument… Great build quality excellent action and a phenomenal tone. It’s by far the best bass I have ever owned or played. I own 5 other basses which includes an EBMm 4 H and they all collect dust now. I will say I think the build quality on my EBMM is slightly better than the Fender. However I have heard and read excellent reviews on this particular bass. The consensus is for the price it is the best bass for the $$$. .

  • @room34

    @room34

    Ай бұрын

    Out of curiosity, what year is your Ultra? I’ve heard Fender Corona’s QC declined a lot after covid hit. Mine was a 2022.

  • @fredparker3384
    @fredparker33849 ай бұрын

    Great video. I was torn between a V8 or a P8. Think you convinced me to go P8. Thanks.

  • @room34

    @room34

    9 ай бұрын

    I’ve never owned a bass with the PJ pickup combo before… that was the reason this one worked for me. If you get one let me know what you think!

  • @3572dogs
    @3572dogs3 ай бұрын

    I have played Sire bass live and in studio for about seven years now

  • @Dima-ek4zj
    @Dima-ek4zj8 ай бұрын

    I disagree with you on Schecter - perhaps yours had some quality control issues, but my stiletto studio has perfect pots and is of excellent build. The battery compartment is easily accessible with scredriver and it takes less that couple of minutes to change the batteries. I have seen your video about the schecter, you have the red/orange one. Mine is the black color, thus the only two cons for me in Schecter are - the finish on the back of the neck, while silky smooth, makes my palm sweaty, which doesn't hinder my playing but makes me anxious that the neck would become dirty; and while the knobs are perfect, the do get a bit in the way when I am palm muting, a slight con I worked around by adjusting my technique. Great video though, this sire looks and sounds great!

  • @room34

    @room34

    8 ай бұрын

    I'd need to be able to change the batteries in seconds, not minutes, with no tools, before I'd be comfortable having an active-only bass on stage. I would have actually needed _two_ screwdrivers… a Phillips to remove the cover and a flathead to pry the batteries out. No thanks. It's a shame because other than that and the flaky pan pot, it was a really great bass.

  • @davidbarclay54
    @davidbarclay544 ай бұрын

    Headstock definitely looks better with roasted maple. That was always my main gripe with the earlier, lighter models.

  • @daynmitchell7543
    @daynmitchell7543Ай бұрын

    I got a fender Mexican jazz for $612 brand new from sweet water

  • @urbangorilla33
    @urbangorilla3314 күн бұрын

    Anyone else have problems with the active circuit? It works sometimes and other times not.

  • @michaelblaney4461
    @michaelblaney44619 ай бұрын

    The first RSD (Rodger Sadowsky Design) basses were horrible , the claim they fixed the new ones and they are branded as Sadowsky. I have always brough a backup bass wherever i have gone . I also have a Stilleto studio but it is a 8 string model its a keeper. Im looking to get a fretless again too , my first was a 80s G&L 2000 with a traditional fingerboard ( stolen in the 90s) Ive had a few fretless since that had lined finger boards i prefer no lines . Id like to try a Warwick or a Sadowsky if i can see them in person first. 😊

  • @Sir_P
    @Sir_P3 ай бұрын

    The sunburst is not like the fender style strong ones, it’s closer to honey burst than sun burst it’s really beautiful

  • @MrCalifornia0
    @MrCalifornia09 ай бұрын

    Looking forward to you getting a Sadowsky

  • @room34

    @room34

    9 ай бұрын

    🤫

  • @dumpstadee8371

    @dumpstadee8371

    5 ай бұрын

    @@room34 try charvel too. i bought charvel over sadowsky.

  • @inkz9002
    @inkz90028 ай бұрын

    omg, i also am a web developer, play clarinet in the orchestra, and play bass guitar everywhere else!

  • @room34

    @room34

    8 ай бұрын

    Ha! Are you sure you're not me?

  • @jugglerj0e
    @jugglerj0e8 ай бұрын

    Sadowsky MetroExpress are sold in America for around $1,000. But Thomann in Europe has them under $500. Sure the shipping from Thomann is expensive (up to $100 depending on where you live in America). But thats still $400 less than buying one from an American dealer.

  • @vecernicek2

    @vecernicek2

    8 ай бұрын

    Is that the same instrument?

  • @TonyOnDrums92
    @TonyOnDrums926 ай бұрын

    My ultra has none of those issues to each their own though

  • @latenight5865
    @latenight58654 ай бұрын

    OK the headstock of sire doesn't look good. But do you really care about it when you play?

  • @mrkopecky
    @mrkopecky9 ай бұрын

    American professional II looks pretty good to this newb? I saw you got rid of the green (1)one.

  • @room34

    @room34

    9 ай бұрын

    My experience with the original American Professional series was pretty good, but I'm concerned that Fender USA's QC has fallen off over the past 3-4 years. I don't know if the issues I had with the American Ultra were design flaws specific to that series or just general slips in quality.

  • @BobBlackBass
    @BobBlackBass9 ай бұрын

    What is the weight of the p8?

  • @room34

    @room34

    9 ай бұрын

    These do tend to be a bit on the heavy side. Sweetwater weighed my particular instrument at 9 pounds 5 ounces, but they had some that were as much a 9 pounds 12 ounces. It is well balanced. I used it last night in a 2 hour rehearsal and I noticed there’s no neck dive, but I was starting to feel the weight a bit by the end.

  • @johnaina8649
    @johnaina86499 ай бұрын

    What was that great tune at the end?

  • @room34

    @room34

    9 ай бұрын

    The Price Is Right theme!

  • @johnaina8649

    @johnaina8649

    9 ай бұрын

    @@room34 lol thanks!

  • @RaiderNation-North
    @RaiderNation-North5 ай бұрын

    Do yourself a favour and get an Ibanez SDGR bass…beats all those basses. My SR600 kicks ass!

  • @Lamarro
    @Lamarro8 ай бұрын

    how is "classic fender look" a pro ? ^^ but very nice vid thx !

  • @room34

    @room34

    8 ай бұрын

    Well… taste is subjective, but I think there's a reason half of the instruments out there are copying Fender's designs.

  • @warburgaby
    @warburgaby8 ай бұрын

    For me, way better the Yamaha BB 734A. Zero neck diving (classic Sire problem). Perfect balance sound-ergonomics-price. W Yamaha.

  • @room34

    @room34

    8 ай бұрын

    I own and love several Yamaha keyboards and woodwind instruments, so I know they are good. There’s just something about the design aesthetic of their guitars and basses… they’re just… weird looking to me. Since looks matter a lot more with guitars and basses than with most other instruments, I just can’t get past that.

  • @giovannibonapace4250
    @giovannibonapace42508 ай бұрын

    I agree the headstock's awful ... But everything else is great ... i own 3 v7's

  • @Melodic_Fool
    @Melodic_FoolАй бұрын

    TO HEAD

  • @dumpstadee8371
    @dumpstadee83715 ай бұрын

    charvel makes a better bass, no pick guard demarzio pick ups, roasted neck with 1.5 nut. rounded fret board. IMHO .

  • @FullMetalAnus
    @FullMetalAnus7 ай бұрын

    What dimarzios do you have on the Squire Jazz Bass? I've been using the ultra jazz and LOVING them!

  • @room34

    @room34

    7 ай бұрын

    Yep, those are the ones.

  • @FullMetalAnus

    @FullMetalAnus

    7 ай бұрын

    @@room34 amazing! Can’t wait for my p8 to show up tomorrow and thanks for the detail you packed in

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