Sire Marcus Miller P7 (2nd Generation) Bass Guitar Review - Most Awesome Second Bass?
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In this bass guitar lesson, James will walk you through the Sire P7 bass. He talks about the different aspects of the bass and if it is a good option.
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I have a 1st Gen V7 5 and it's a keeper! I really like the tone of the P7 P+J pickup combination!!!! I need to get a P7 5! Sounds great in the mix!
Just got one of these two days ago. I LOVE it. It plays so smooth! The neck feels like butter.
@ebassguitar
Жыл бұрын
That's good to hear! Cheers!
Very nice review and very nice channel, keep interacting with your commenters especially when they ask questions, I love that. Thank you.
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
Totally! The interaction is where the fun is at :-) Thanks man
Hi thanks for the great review ! You killed me with the demo of " Sweet" guns, nice way to use the progression for a demo !
@ebassguitar
Жыл бұрын
The pleasure's mine Vincent! Glad you like it!
Awesome review!! Probably the best musical instrument review I have ever seen. Very comprehensive and helpful. Thank you.
@ebassguitar
Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it! Cheers!
I've just ordered myself a fretless P7!! At first I felt like it was a waste to get a bass with such a nice preamp, as I am exclusively a passive player, but - as you noted - the preamp could be really useful in providing me with an alternative sound. For the bulk of the time I can use the bass in passive mode, but for solo sections I can slap the preamp on, and have it set to a tone with cut lows and boosted treble and high mid, meaning I can cut through for those sections with a little volume boost too, all at the flick of one switch!
@ebassguitar
Жыл бұрын
Great share! All the best!
really nice playing and every thing you do excellent keep going
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
I have the v3 5 string and a v7 fretless. They absolutly shred on fenders. Love 'em!
@ebassguitar
Жыл бұрын
Wonderful! Cheers!
Brilliant review James, very comprehensive - thank you! Can I ask why you went for Alder/Ebony over the Ash & Maple..?
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
Generally I prefer the look and the sound of darker wood necks...
Great video! Props on the SBL One Strap, too :P
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
Haha - it’s a good strap for sure!
Great review! And playing!
@ebassguitar
Жыл бұрын
Many thanks Nicholas! Cheers!
When I bought my V7, I had the idea of using it for gigs and leaving my vintage stuff at home. It soon became my number one, and have now purchased a V10. That bass is not cheap, but really shows what Sire can do, the V10 is lovely.
@ebassguitar
Жыл бұрын
It sure is! Great share!
Thank you very much for this review, helped out al lotttt
@ebassguitar
3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure - it’s a solid axe
@basbakker
3 жыл бұрын
@@ebassguitar Just bought one 😀
I had SOOo many Q,s on this bass, N you answered them all thks........Im buying one
@ebassguitar
Жыл бұрын
Glad you found the video useful! Best of luck with your bass playing!
Good review James.
@ebassguitar
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Graham! Cheers!
Great review, very thorough and well presented. Ordered ash p7. Had to go to alternative German supplier as no stock at the moment in Andertons. Well done and love the way you handle silly comments.
@ebassguitar
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul! All the best!
Just got one of these basses. I like it except for the pickup heights; they come out of the factory set too low, and there's not nearly enough spring/foam underneath them to raise them without them becoming loose.
@ebassguitar
Жыл бұрын
Great share! Cheers!
aaaaaaand.... SUBSCRIBED. Dude u rock! bought this just from this review
@ebassguitar
2 жыл бұрын
Happy to know this helped with your purchase decision. Have you got your new bass yet? How are you getting along with it?
El mejor video de este modelo de bajo que he encontrado
Great review! I think the V7 is more to my liking, but I definitely need to try out P7 too when I'll go shopping for my next bass.
@ebassguitar
Жыл бұрын
Glad you learn something useful from the video! Cheers!
Thanks for that! Really good to see one out "in the wild" at the end. btw, Is that an SBL one strap??
@ebassguitar
3 жыл бұрын
Yep - that is a SBL strap - very good straps
@basbakker
3 жыл бұрын
Haha, yehhh I noticed that's good 🙃😜
Big time Sire fan here, as I own a couple of V7s. As much as I like a PJ pickup combo in theory, I am almost never happy with the tonal blend of both, especially when slapping. I like the slap tones here, however. Is that a 50/50 blend of both pickups?
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
Yep absolutely... always both pick ups full up for me to get the slap tone! If I was a big time ‘slapper’ I’d probably play a jazz bass... but I only play stay slap about 1% of the time and prefer the PJ tone for finger style...
how are the P7 5 string compared to a M7 5 string does the P7 still have a thinner Jazz neck compared to the M7 5 string?
11:35 14:43 16:43 19:59
Great demo James.Articulate,entertaining and knowledgeable.Very tasteful player too! I've just ordered a V7 myself and even after 50 years plus of playing bass,I can't wait 'til it arrives,thanks to your demo. The best demo and video i've watched by a country mile! Keep up the good work my friend.
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! That’s the very first bass review I’ve done... so super appreciate your kind comments! It’s a very good bass indeed... cheers John
I just got a new Alder P7 4. This might be my first 20 fret bass. I'm used to 24 or 22. It is surprisingly an adjustment. I don't like the D'addario xl's at all. I'll be putting on Dunlop nickels. Did you change the strings? Thanks
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I use elixers which work well for me. I was still impressed to have a name brand on there for sure...
Thanks, really appreciated the review! I'm thinking of getting a new budget bass and I was considering getting a V3 however, after all the bad comments in other videos about its bridge and tuners (are they really that bad?), I'm more like shifted toward an upper segment. That means V7 or P7. Btw, I really liked your eyebrows man, give you a unique look!
@ebassguitar
3 жыл бұрын
They all seem ok to me! Cheers I love the brows too
@keremg
3 жыл бұрын
@@ebassguitar thanks! just ordered a white V3 5er!
New to your channel...really honest, level-headed, easy-to-understand review. You speak about the instrument without selling it to me, simply TELLING me about YOUR impressions, likes and dislikes. I'm looking into getting my hands on this model - the P7 - ...how can you tell if it's Alder or Ash? The model I'm going to check out is pre-owned, but in great condition...thanks for your review, excellent presentation. I'm really drawn to the ability to use the guitar in Passive mode AS WELL AS Active...it's an incredibly useful and impressively thoughtful feature...along with the rolled fretboard edges, quality electronics, well thought out balance, and affordability. Can't wait! Thanks again.
@ebassguitar
3 жыл бұрын
Cheers! I think two of the finishes are in ash and two in alder... off the top of my head...
@backlineguy
3 жыл бұрын
@@ebassguitar yes, actually 3 finishes in each, and the model I'm looking at is Black with the Tortoise Shell Guard, so it's Alder... One thing...trying to watch the free 20 minute downloadable video of you playing the bass at a gig, the link is either broken, or has never worked...I assume it's broken - there's no way to get to the 20 minute video...suggestions? Thanks again...Cheers from Nashville, TN...USA
Great review - thorough and helpful. Do you think I could dial in an early Geezer Butler sound from its P pickup?
Nicely done.
@ebassguitar
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Maru! Cheers!
Ordered my p7 alder 4 string today 👌🏾🎸
@ebassguitar
3 жыл бұрын
Well done!
Is it lighter than V7 ? Are the neck of P7 and V7 same width ? And lastly is it true that PJ basses aren't as good as a P bass or J bass ?
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
I dont have both basses to compare... maybe the specs are on the sire website I think that’s nonsense that pj isn’t as good. I love the sound of both pick up types... Also they’re good enough for Victor Wooten and verdine white...
Nice review, i'm looking for a 5 string along my fender vintera 60's J-bass, and first i was looking at a 5 string V7 but i already have a J-bass, so my eye fell on a P7 because its something different. But would you recommend a ash or alder body for this bass?
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
I haven’t played the ash so cant comment with any authority! I’d recommend trying both in a store and comparing, even recording them, so see what the differences are :-)
I have been looking for a P with a J neck. Pickups aside, how does this compare to the Okamoto sig model? Which is better
@ebassguitar
8 күн бұрын
I guess there are some similar fundamentals… but they are very different instruments, especially when strung up with different strings. The p-bass just does that old school vibe really nicely… the sire is more versitile
Eddie Munster on Bass. Thanks Bro And GREAT REVIEW 👍👌
@ebassguitar
3 жыл бұрын
Who is Eddie Munster?
what's the name of the song at the end of the video? also I've got tokai tjb who looks and sounds exactly like p7 :D
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
Tokai are great Off the top of my head it’s a track from our blues backing track album....
Is there an issue with the weight of the sire P7 basses? Can you go through a gig without a bad back?
@Kai-rm2nz
4 ай бұрын
I have a Sure V5 and its pretty hefty. However if you get a 4 inch wide strap I'm fairly sure it'd be more than fine.
To this day how do you compare p7 to others? compare to a v7 or v3 etc. Is it still up to high standards?
@ebassguitar
3 жыл бұрын
The best way would be to go to a music store and compare oh fine trustworthy online reviews
How would the P7 differ to the P5R's? Would they we quite similar just the P7 has an active pre-amp and extra pickup?
@CharlesWillisBonsai
Жыл бұрын
P7 has a skinnier Jazz style neck and the P5 has a more traditional wider Precision style neck.
I own some stupidly expensive boutique basses having replaced a fair number of Fenders. When Marcus first developed with SIRE his range, l got a V7 Jazz Bass which turned out better than my previous Fenders. I thought that maybe, l should get another Fender but this time, a P bass. As I previously decided, they are in my opinion too basic. I'm currently awaiting the delivery of a P7 identical to the one reviewed here and I'm quite excited at the prospect. I totally believe that as Marcus has put his name on all the SIRE basses, they're all of good quality through and through and dare I say it, better and more versatile than most Fenders. Two of my previous Fenders were 4 and 5 string P Bass Deluxes with two pickups, one P and the other a humbucker twin coil and 18 volt preamps. Even those didn't come up to scratch!.....
@ebassguitar
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that Den! Cheers!
@dancassidy7471
10 ай бұрын
I find my P7 very confusing to get the sound I love on my Jap Fender Lite. I wondering if my deal as a demo from Sweetwater is not up to parr
I was wondering what happens while playing active and the battery went empty. Can you swith right away to play passive and keep having sound?
@ebassguitar
2 жыл бұрын
Just flip the switch and you can go from active to passive. The switch can even work as a way of switching tones. Do have a slap tone set up with active and finger style with passive etc
@issedabelangriekhekkeoenet7542
2 жыл бұрын
@@ebassguitar thanks. So without a battery, there is still passive sound?
@davidmoore8397
2 жыл бұрын
@@issedabelangriekhekkeoenet7542 Yes. I just bought one and removed the batteries to make sure. Passive sound without batteries. So convenient.
Have you noticed they are a bit neck heavy? I love mine and have had it for two years but it seems to bother my back a bit. I might just be getting old haha!
@ebassguitar
3 жыл бұрын
It’s not something I’d spotted but I’ll have a look today... I’m guessing it may vary a bit from bass to bass too
Hello, do you think the p7 would be a good choice for my prog metal band? We play with A# Tuning..thank you
@ebassguitar
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah... it would work great if so set up correctly for the tuning!
@jeremyvolelli1194
3 жыл бұрын
@@ebassguitar thank you !
I know it will never happen, but if these had Fender headstocks, they'd be absolute perfection.
@spaceghost5026
2 жыл бұрын
I wish Fender wasn't so stingy with their pearl inlays!
@DrFaust-pr8vw
Жыл бұрын
Swap out the neck
@BreadLightPray_EWFMgtr
Жыл бұрын
Maybe ⁉️ but in the end it matters Not one whitt _I've come to like the Sire slim down headstock _just because the bass's are so awesome for the price ❗🤔😖😣😝🤑
Wow what a great sound
@ebassguitar
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely a nice bass guitar to have
This was a very thorough review. Thanks for taking the time. (And yes, the Sire is going on my want list.)
@ebassguitar
3 жыл бұрын
It’s a really solid bass seriously recommended
Hi thanks for the review how you compare this bass with a Ibanez sr1300 ?
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
I haven’t played an sr1300... so couldn’t comment... but my experience of anything Ibanez is always very good! Best thing to do is a/b them at a music store and see which one speaks to you :-)
@TexasCorgiGun
4 жыл бұрын
@@ebassguitar thank you so much for your input is highly appreciated
Sounds great!! What amp and cab are you using for your wedding gig?
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
That’s the Aguilar amp and mark bass 2x10! You’re getting an in-ear mix there... so there no cab
@stevendduran
4 жыл бұрын
@@ebassguitar Dag, then your mix sounds amazing lol!
Which P7 fretboard? I'm a fingerstyle player (not a slap bass guy). Looking for a very warm tone mostly
@ebassguitar
2 жыл бұрын
It’s the darker rose wood style one… I’m sure I mention it in the video?
@churchbass3
2 жыл бұрын
@@ebassguitar Sorry I was talking about which fretboard I should get?
Thanks - was recommended this by a pro bass player. Awaiting delivery.
@ebassguitar
2 жыл бұрын
It’s a solid instrument!
Smooth bassist man.Nice tone
@ebassguitar
Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Glad you like it!
The live cuts are great! Strings?
@ebassguitar
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! It came strung with didarios... I’ve changed them to elixirs because that’s what I normally use :-)
If I had a Sadowsky, and I did KZread videos, I would talk about a "second bass" as well. I do have a Sadowsky and a Sire and I don't do YT vids. So I can say, after 45 years of playing Sire is just as good at any price.
What strings did you use please?
@ebassguitar
3 жыл бұрын
Exlires...
I have a suspicion that the block inlays are paint. You can see a woodgrain in the blocks that follow the ebony. Can you confirm that this is the case for yours as well? Apart from that the bass is amazing for the price (and even it was double the price)!
@ebassguitar
5 жыл бұрын
I’ll have a look and double check... :-) It’s a great bass for the money... seriously impressed.
@ebassguitar
5 жыл бұрын
From what I can tell they are definitely not painted. I think the grain thing might be a reflection. They definitely look like a material has been inlayed into the wood... it’s hard to say exactly how or what the construction is
Would you recommend for worship settings and live gigs? You mostly see standard pickups on shows but P bass in studio sessions.
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
Works perfectly for live gigs...
very nice sound on black and white video
@ebassguitar
Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it! Cheers!
So it can play without batteries too ?
@latenight5865
3 жыл бұрын
Yes
I had two Sires and got rid of them both. The necks were pretty meh, which is terribly frustrating for me, because they all sound amazing. I really wish I could find a Sire with a good neck. I am a metalhead, my main is a five string Schecter, which has amazing low attack, so I am pretty pretentious about that
Do you recommend it in 5 string version ?
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
I played it in andertons briefly and seemed great...
@erskinepatton3247
4 жыл бұрын
Just ordered the 5 string. Can't wait to play it!
3:20 what exactly is contrustuction?
@ebassguitar
3 жыл бұрын
How the bass guitar is made...
I've heard the control knobs on this bass feel cheap, is that true?
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
They feel fine to me. The knobs are quite small... but in the bigger picture of things to me it really doesn’t matter. It’s a phenomenal bass for the money
@hetul784
4 жыл бұрын
@@ebassguitar thanks alot!
Nice SBL strap there at the end. You guys mates?
@ebassguitar
3 жыл бұрын
Very much so, Scott is a good mate... have you seen the interview I did with him a few weeks back? It’s on the channel :-)
@pixelguru
3 жыл бұрын
@@ebassguitar Cool, I'll check it out!
Is that a Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+?
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
It’s a rocket 44 guitar amp
You look good in a tie. really suits you 👍👍
@ebassguitar
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me know Klisher! Cheers!
I bought both jazz and precision bass from Fender player series. I’m gonna sell the jazz and order this Sire bass.
@ebassguitar
Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
Is that an SBL strap?
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
Yep it is! I know all the SBL guys well... good strap.
Hi, this or a Fender player?
@ebassguitar
3 жыл бұрын
Both are good!
Is it versatile? Could I play rock in it? i mean.... pearl jam, for example
@ebassguitar
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@PhilosophicalCat
3 жыл бұрын
I have the 5 string version. It's one of the most versatile basses I ever played. Honestly, I've found amps and effect pedals do more to make your sound fit a certain style than the given bass you choose to play.
Are you selling that Mesa Boogie?
@ebassguitar
3 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t planning too... are you after a guitar amp?
I have a M7 5 string coming
@ebassguitar
3 жыл бұрын
Really good basses!
body in alder or swamp ash ?
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
The white ones are alder I believe!
You still use this bass?
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
Yep... it’s good bass!
These basses look and sound awesome except for the headstock, I simply hate it.
@ebassguitar
2 жыл бұрын
I’m going to have a good look at that headstock now!
The features for the money are quite cool.
@ebassguitar
Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it! All the best!
your eyebrows are mesmerizing...
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man... they’re my most striking feature! I love them. What’s your most striking feature Rory?
Gun's 'n Roses are gonna be looking for you with that 2nd track! LOL
This is by far the best sire bass demo video ive seen more then a dozen they all make the bass sound terrible with thay bieng said my next bass will be a sire thanks for the video
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! I appreciated that... it’s the first demo we’ve done on the channel - I’ll do more! Cheers Alfredo :-)
mooi bassie
13:06 Sweet Rip-off 0'Mine ? 🤔
@ebassguitar
Жыл бұрын
Hell Yeah!
This guy's looks like Agro. Australians will understand.
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
I’ll ask my Australian friends!
3'21"... check your spelling James ;)
@ebassguitar
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing that out! All the best!
I literally got my Sire Marcus Miller P7 today. Didn't even see this video. Around 560€ here in Finland and boy oh boy do I like this. I'm a guitarist with acute basism going on so I first got the 400€ Sterling Sub Series. It was really nice but if the temperature changed .5 C the neck would bow. I'm super happy with this and I'm really relieved that you said it keeps it's setup even through weather changes. Great bass. Kicks ass of much more expensive bass from other manufacturers.
@MaestorRasanen
2 жыл бұрын
And it's super easy to to vibratos. You just know those almost nougat/honey soft and sensual groovy vibratos? Mmmm... I love bass :D
@ebassguitar
2 жыл бұрын
Great to know you are loving the bass! :)
nice bass ???
@ebassguitar
Жыл бұрын
Yes it is!
I see nothing wrong at.all with the headstock. I dont.know what people are talking about.
@BlackuLaLa
3 күн бұрын
It upsets obnoxious fender-only people
2nd bass? why not 1st???
@ebassguitar
8 ай бұрын
It’s a great first bass too. My first is always likely to be my sadowsky…
I don't get the fuss, bought one and sold it in a matter of weeks, doesn't hold a candle to a Fender in terms of build, hardware is crap, didn't like the neck and the stacked tone knobs are a car crash compared to many other active basses.....sorry, just not my cup of tea at all.
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
Cool, the great thing is we can all have a different opinion on this stuff :-) Out of curiosity, what fender are you comparing to?
@scottcuppello
4 жыл бұрын
@@ebassguitar MIM.....much nicer neck, build quality is a step up, a pair of pick up's away from being a killer, road worthy bass, and Japanese Fenders are in the same price catagory secondhand.
I want to fix your collar and tie
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
Should it be done up?
severe neck dive
His eyebrows are also talking.. I'm distracted.
@ebassguitar
Жыл бұрын
Haha I love them!
Honestly the eyebrows made me forget what the video was about
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
I love my eye brows - they’re my most striking features and I would be without them. What’s your most striking feature Steve?
Shut the fuck up and playyyyyyy already!
1./ too much talking
@ebassguitar
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
one of the worst basses I've had
Blablablalblablalba
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
Blablablablablabla
Sorry. You speak too much....
@ebassguitar
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. Thankfully I don’t agree. Perhaps you should watch another review if It’s not to your liking.
You need to get your eyebrows under control. I find that’s all I’m watching during the demo.
@ebassguitar
4 жыл бұрын
How do you suggest I do that Tim?