Sire L7 Guitar Compared to Gibson Les Paul Standard and Custom
Is the Sire Larry Carlton L7 worth it? Guitar demo.
Audio sample are trying to represent all I can think of, like chords, single note lines, arpeggiated chords, octaves, up and down the neck, different pickups, different settings of the volume controls, whatever I could think of. That turned out to be pretty silly, as explained at the end of the video.
Clean amp - Dr. Z MAZ 38nr Mk2 into a Dr. Z 1x12 cab (open back) with a Celestion Greenback speaker. Mi'd with a Royer 121 mic from about a foot away. Needs new ribbon. :(
Distorted amp - Splawn Quickrod (2006), 2nd gear, gain about 1/2 way, master about 9:30pm. Dr. Z Air Brake attenuator set at the lowest level (bedroom), the with variable volume there set to about 1/2 way. 4x12 with 57 on a Greenback and Sennheiser 421 on a Creamback speaker.
Both amps were set lower than what would work with a medium loud live drummer.
Guitars:
Sire L7 (2019?) stock
Gibson Les Paul Standard (2005) with Throbak SLE-101 plus pickups and 50's wiring harness.
Gibson Les Paul Custom (2019) stock Gibson 490R/498t pickups.
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
1:03 Sire - Feel Like Making Love
1:50 Standard - Feel Like Making Love
2:33 Custom - Feel Like Making Love
3:16 Sire - Isn't She Lovely
3:50 Standard - Isn't She Lovely
4:23 Custom - Isn't She Lovely
4:56 Sire - Sir Duke
6:21 Standard - Sir Duke
7:34 Custom - Sir Duke
9:35 Sire - Dragonfly
10:30 Standard - Dragonfly
11:31 Custom - Dragonfly
11:58 Sire - Everything's Coming Our Way
13:23 Standard - Everything's Coming Our Way
14:48 Custom - Everything's Coming Our Way
16:00 Sire - Let's Stay Together
17:30 Standard - Let's Stay Together
19:02 Custom - Let's Stay Together
20:18 Sire - The Trees
21:20 Standard - The Trees
22:29 Custom - The Trees
23:38 Sire - Signed, Sealed, Delivered
24:54 Standard - Signed, Sealed, Delivered
25:53 Sire -Tush
26:22 Standard - Tush
26:52 Sire - Finding My Way
27:14 Sire - Finding My Way
27:51 Sire - Feels Like The First Time
28:13 Standard - Feels Like The First Time
28:34 Custom - Feels Like The First Time
28:57 Sire - Hot Blooded
29:45 Standard - Hot Blooded
30:30 Sire - Double Vision
30:47 Custom - Double Vision
31:11 Sire - Dokken
31:35 Standard - Dokken
32:40 Sire - Waiting For The Bus
32:50 Custom - Waiting For The Bus
33:24 Clean LP Custom
37:57 Sire - Distorted Misc.
41:39 Standard - Distorted Misc.
45:06 Custom - Distorted Misc.
45:37 Conclusion
Sample Performed:
Roberta Flack - Feel Like Making Love
Stevie Wonder - Isn't She Loverly
Stevie Wonder - Sir Duke (Copyright - Boo!)
Allman Brothers - Rambling Man
Frank Marino - Dragonfly
Santana - Everything's Coming Our Way
Al Green - Let's Stay Together
Rush - The Trees
Stevie Wonder - Signed, Sealed, Delivered
ZZ Top - Tush
Rush - Finding My Way
Foreigner - Feels Like The First Time
Foreigner - Hot Blooded
Foreigner - Double Vision
Dokken - The Hunter
ZZ Top - Waitin' For The Bus
John Mayer - No Such Thing (Copyright - Boo!)
Led Zeppelin - Four Sticks
Eric Clapton - I Shot The Sheriff
Rory Gallager - Bad Penny
ZZ Top - Just Got Paid
Lenny Kravitz - Are You Gonna Go My Way
Boston - More Than A Feeling
Boston - Smokin'
Rush - Circumstances (Copyright - Boo!)
Rush - Working Man
Rush - Entres Nous
Rush - Limelight
Loverboy - Hot Girls In Love
Cheap Trick - Big Eyes
Dokken - It's Not Love
#sire #drz #maz38
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Im pretty shure if the Sire had a Gibson logo no one can hear a big difference… great playing!!!
@AdamGotheridge
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, sounds more or less the same to me too. Thanks!
So many clean tones, I really appreciate that! Not everyone wants to listen to clipped sounds only.
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and yes, me too!
The best Les Paul comparison i've ever heard!
@AdamGotheridge
6 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
I'm about to be completely honest with you Adam. This was the most entertaining comparison video I have ever seen!!! It was like a magnificent concert!!! Your playing is extra ordinary (an ENTER THE DRAGON reference). I nearly jumped out of my seat when I heard the TREES by RUSH. I considered buying the SIRE gold top but changed my mind until I heard and saw you playing it. Thank you for your video!!!
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, very kind of you. Glad you found it helpful!
Also, I’m a designer, so I honestly bought it because the headstock logo looks so much better. And now hearing it makes me stoked :) 🤘🏽
I went a similar route...bought the Sire P7 bass after reading/hearing/watching the hype...totally impressed and love playing the bass...it's tone control is amazing, and it's a pleasure to play...next up will be the L7. I have owned a number of Gibson Les Pauls, even worked at Gibson/Epiphone as an Inspector...the Sire represents equal quality of construction and playability, without the premium cost...Gibson makes top shelf instruments, don't get me wrong - but to be able obtain a similar quality instrument at quarter of the price?...no brainer...I also own a USA Strat and love it, but I'm tempted to pick up the S7 as well...they've hit it out of the park with these guitars at this price...thanks for the video!
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
I think you summed it all up very well. Thanks for sharing that.
Thank you for taking the time to put together the video Adam. Lots of work. Great gear and demo. @46:00 thereabouts you nailed it with your review. The Gibsons have more uumph and we're used to hearing Gibsons on the original tracks including the quirks. The Sire was more accurate on the figerboard but a lot less push. It's a Larry Carlton Cursaders blues guitar for all intents considering he inspired the L7 and the genre he normally plays. And would likely fare better on a recording for being more consistent on changes up and down the board to where tweaking the sound is almost limitless. The Sire definitely falls under a well constructed guitar for $600 that looks like a Paul for those on a budget. Which was Larry's plan.
@AdamGotheridge
3 ай бұрын
Most welcome! I think your comments hit the nail on the head. For me personally, I haven’t been playing it much. Currently mine has emg’s in it and I’m not sure if it’s that I don’t like those pickups, or maybe them in that guitar. Functionally, the guitar is very sound though.
@dragongoff
3 ай бұрын
@@AdamGotheridge Of course, you have two of the real thing. Wild guess Larry voiced the pickups so it would sound like his style. The L7 comes across to me like a cross between a Paul and a 335. How he was able to do that is a mystery considering how many pickup winders there are and for decades it's been a crap shoot of what pickup in where. The 335 is not just for jazzers. Van Halen started off with one and IIRC he used one a track. And though there are many artist inspired guitars, IMO, to his credit, Carlton was able to make something where the artist succeeded in making the guitar sound like his sound.
I really appreciate your review ! Thank you for sharing !
@AdamGotheridge
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to say thanks! 😎
Appreciate the review abs detail!
The custom sounds the best clean imo, to be expected, but the sire is pretty great for the money. Seems like the sire started to sound better as you got the feel of it, but might be my imagination. Great playing!
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Good point on it probably sounding better the more I played it. Makes sense. And yes, Sire is pretty great for the money. Not quite the Gibson, but a lot less expensive too. As time goes by, I appreciate the locking tuners more and just how the nut was cut. Less messing around with tuning. Thanks!
Boston!!!!! Yeahhhh I'm sold that sounds Bloody awesome!! magnificent playing good sir!!!
@AdamGotheridge
5 ай бұрын
Thank you sir!
Great vid. Brilliant playing. The Standard seems to have the best sound on most of those examples. Value wise though, the sound is good enough on the Sire. Reliability is to be considered I suppose but huge price difference.
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, and totally agree on all your points. Given my druthers, I'm playing the standard. Reliability, I think the guitar is totally sound as I've had it for a couple years now, but maybe yes speaking to the pots or switches being a potential failure point. Not a deal breaker though.
Your an AWESOME Guitar Slinger 🎸 I've been playing since I was 3 and now I'm an Old man at 63. Had to give up playing Semi-Profesonal and Professional because of Neuropathy in my hands and feet, but I can still rip on a Guitar 🎸 for a few minutes and I used to play 7 nights a week. I am ordering a GoldTop from SIRE today
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Really sorry about the Neuropathy. I'm right behind you and catching up fast! 😉 I can't play like I used to either, but I still have a lot of fun with it, and I think it's just good for our soul or something. Maybe mediative in a way for people who can't sit still. It's a gift. Good luck with your Sire and let me know how you get on with it. I think you'll appreciate some things about it like the tuning isn't so much of a problem, it feels great, etc. Thank you!
You're awesome dude! Thanks for the demo. I really appreciate your honesty and no bullshit down to earth style. You come across as a very authentic and sincere person. I really enjoyed your playing too. I'm going to check out your other videos. Keep on rocking!!!
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
Really kind of you, thanks!
You are a great guitarist, Adam! I always enjoy your music and style! 🤘🎸🤘😎🤘
@AdamGotheridge
6 ай бұрын
I'm going to get Monica in a video one of these days. :)
Great videos very put together sound test on all guitars nice playing reminds me when I was playing in a cover bands late 70,s 80,s I just bought a Sire L7
@AdamGotheridge
9 ай бұрын
Thanks, and good luck with the guitar! And yeah, I'm still stuck on 70's - 80's guitar sounds. 🤘
The Custom is so “open” sounding. What a guitar. The winner was the Splawn. Goodness, what a beast of an amp. Greetings from The UK 🇬🇧🤘🏻
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Greeting from the US! My parents were from the UK (Birmingham, WW2 era, I think that's why I mumble ) 😜. The Splawn is a beast, throw it in against drums and bass and it more it just really cuts through and sounds full.. I might add that I had used an old Splawn modded 1959 for a while and I liked that quite a bit more than this one. That was a long time ago though.
@carlwolf4547
2 жыл бұрын
YES the splaawn was AWESOME!
Really enjoyed the demo, the Sire sounded good, the pups didn't have the output or complexity of the Gibbys, but what a great job it did in the side by side nevertheless!
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Agree. Pickups in the standard cost more than the whole Sire, so there's that too.
Very helpful! Thanks for putting this together.
Wow! Great comparison/review. Great playing as well! I'm a beginner/amateur, and they all sound relatively the same to me. I'm buying the Sire L7 Gold Top!!! Thank you, Adam...
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
Rest assured it's a very good instrument. 🙏🙏
@jeffreynowotarski8775
Жыл бұрын
@AdamGotheridge I ordered an L7 Gold Top today. I'll have it within a week. Thanks, once again, Adam, for such a great review. Your playing is definitely inspirational!
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
Awesome, I think you'll really like it. And most welcome and thanks too!
Very nice presentation. Thank you, and God bless.
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and you too!
I got mine 3 day's ago.... A black beauty with a crystal clear sound...😮 Love it...!😊
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Hope it brings you years of enjoyment.
The gibson sounds incredible with gain, thats all i need to know. For cleans theres always fender, gretsch and acoustics.
@thorpenator9148
Жыл бұрын
The Sire would sound the same with a Classic 57 bridge pick up.
I need to stop watching Sire L7 videos. Im really trying to hold out until the L7V is back in stock, but my brain is trying to convince me to get the L7 with the excuse that i could use a humbucker based guitar in my collection even though i enjoy single coils more. Lol. That GAS can be tricky. Lol. U make the L7 sound awesome, and thanks for providing clean examples!
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I kind of wish I had the V too, but the hum bucker one is cool too.
Excellent review. You really gave a diverse review, precisely what I needed to hear. I could hear a tonal difference. Thank you.
Very good all around review and comparison. Currently waiting for delivery of an H7 in cherry finish.
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Been working on another like video around this to try and make it more useful based on what I learned from this one. It's pretty hard to convey what's going on with an instrument in a video. I'm sure you'll like the H7. 😀
Wow best guitar review ever. I would love a custom, played one in hugh's blackrock years ago. Best guitar i ever played. Should have bought it. But that sire sounds close man.
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked the video. I like the Sire, regardless of the price point.
@swishzonetech2551
2 жыл бұрын
@@AdamGotheridge Had a few...57 standard, 72 reissue (standard) 77 Custom. Before '78 Customs were all mahogany In the early/mid 70's Customs were 2 piece Mahogany no maple cap. The difference is depth. rounder lower mids without the crisp highs. You can hear the difference even between the standard lp and the custom in the video. The standard kind of blows out the low end high range while the custom has a rounder warmer tone with sustain hanging around the low mids. The sire on the other hand is mostly bright with less dynamic range thus requiring less compression but also missing a certain character. . For a "Closer" Custom sound from the Sire consider SD JB's. They offer a slightly higher output and more punch in the low mid range, but you'll lose a little of the crisp high end. More Santana like less Dwayne Allman
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
@@swishzonetech2551 All those instruments, really cool. Your observations are great, thanks. I ended up swapping out the 498/490 pups in the custom with the same Throbaks I have in the standard. Not really sure of the tone differences yet between them because the std currently has 11s tuned down 1/2 step. The sire, tried a couple other sets and put the stock ones back in. One set in particular, SD Saturday night special, I hated everything about those. I've had the JB in a couple guitars in the past (Hamer and Parker) and liked them. Sire missing a character - agree. I like it, but it's not as complex a sound.
Man I forgot about the guitars and just listened to the guitarist!
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Funny!
Thank you for the demo. Appreciate all the sound samples and your opinion of the guitar (after you actually owning it for a few months).
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Most welcome! How do you like it?
Thanks for a great demo! The best of all the guitar gear channels. Subscribed
@AdamGotheridge
11 ай бұрын
Awe, thanks! 🙏
El mejor review. Solo agradecer tu generosidad. Saludos desde Chile.
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
¡Muchas gracias! Ten un día maravilloso. 🙏
Great comparison video! Sire L7 at $599 = perfect gigging guitar out of the box. No mods needed. Price, tone, playability. Gibson Standard $2,700 = classic Gibson tone. Studio quality tracking tone out of the box no mods needed. With A/B comparison at home using quality headphones/monitors the overall tone differences are noticeable. Let's face it the Standard has that classic Gibson sound we've all come to love. That drive sound is heavenly. In a live setting just hearing one or the other in a full mix it would be difficult to hear much of a difference. The biggest tone differences is the response and articulation of the notes when playing softly not full heavy stumming. In my opinion anyways.
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
I think you hit the nail on the head. I will say this though... sometimes when things are loud and a band is blaring, all the details can get lost. Sometimes, though, all those little details then make a huge difference. Like play a modeler amp at normal listening volume, sounds great, then play it loud with a band and it's like "where did the sound go". It can sometimes be the opposite with good gear where it really shows what it has to give at volume an in context. Love your thoughts here.
@Somnospeed
2 жыл бұрын
I bet if he puts those same pickups and wiring in the L7 we may be flipping a coin to see which one sounds best.
Thanks for this beautiful demo 🫶🙏🙌 I feel For the money ..sire ❤ but the tone wise les Paul ❤.. both are amazing axe
@AdamGotheridge
10 ай бұрын
Thank you, and totally agree! 🙏
The Les Paul Standard is simply the sound of rock and roll. It can't be topped. That said, I would buy the Sure, which sounds very good, get a couple of great studio mics, and make still phenomenal sounding music, only now owning some awesome mics
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Good point! It's a very good guitar.
Crap, you just reminded me to listen to Rush! Great review. I bought a Sire LP white and its great
@AdamGotheridge
Ай бұрын
thanks, and glad you like the guitar! Rush is always fun too 🤗
Thanks much.The best review I found to determine if buying. Nice playing
@AdamGotheridge
8 ай бұрын
Thanks. FWIW, I'm on my 4th set of pickups with this guitar and I think the stock pickups sounded the best by quite a long shot. Currently emg 85/81 and those aren't doing anything for me in this guitar.
@user-uy3bq6lx2z
18 күн бұрын
@@AdamGotheridge Adam, Вам самому нравится ли играть на этой гитаре Sire L7, или быстро надоедает? Нравится ли она Вам по эргономике, ни тяжёлая от слишком (4,4 кг), по звуку нравится?!.. Или же лучше купить Yamaha RSS20 RevStar?
@AdamGotheridge
18 күн бұрын
@@user-uy3bq6lx2z В целом, мне нравится гитара, но сейчас у меня в ней стоит комплект звукоснимателей EMG, которые я не переношу. Так что я вообще не играю на ней много. Эргономика как у обычного Les Paul, может быть, немного удобнее. Хотя по ощущениям как Les Paul. Я не пробовал Yamaha RSS20, но мне нравится ее идея в целом. Держу пари, что это довольно хорошая гитара. Yamaha всегда уделяла внимание деталям и качеству, на мой взгляд. Удачи, и приятно слышать от вас!
@user-uy3bq6lx2z
18 күн бұрын
@@AdamGotheridge Спасибо Вам большое! 👍☀️
Great in-depth comparison. Yeah, the Gibson is still hard to beat, and if you do manage to get your hands on a 2nd hand in great condition, I recommend, I have a Gold Top Studio 50s Tribute with the P90s, pretty much the best GLP you can get for the money! Paid 749.99 plus taxes CAD in 2015 Ok it doesn't have the binding around the body, but it sounds totally amazing!
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Your gold top sounds like the bomb. Wish I could find one like that for that kind of money. The one P90 LP I played was super cool. Cheers and thanks!
@russtyruss_i-Invest
2 жыл бұрын
@@AdamGotheridge Thanks, yeah you can probably find a good condition one used. I also have P90s in my Epiphone E339, sounds amazing. Cheers!
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
@@russtyruss_i-Invest Yet another vote for P90's! Thanks. ✌️
Liked and subscribed! I'm just listening in the dark. I'm not really hearing which guitar your playing. Sire prices so good! Will it just be another guitar that sell in a year or two? Subscribed because you bother to read and respond to comments unlike many product pushers. Great stuff.
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
First and foremost, thank you! Second, I don't think a lot of those people have time to respond when they get thousands of comments... it is what it is, but yeah, pretty disrespectful. Third, will you sell it in a year? Yes, and maybe. Is it going to be "the one"? I don't think so. But, it's a great to have around to practice on, it would be a fantastic entry level instrument, and it would be a great guitar to leave in an alternate tuning or say put some EMG's in it and leave it for that purpose. EMG's and some kind of dropped tuning was really why I bought the thing, but it still has the stock pickups and is in standard tuning. ;) I leave it in a bedroom and do exercises with a metronome with it, and I plug it into an Apollo interface and use it with the Friedman BE plugging to learn songs and just practice improvising. It's a fantastic guitar for that. Maybe most importantly "did you hear a difference"? I thought this would be a lot more revealing and helpful in that respect, but when I did it and listened back, I realized I have some kind of sound in my and I'm trying to get it out of the guitar, and I play them differently and sort of achieve the same result as a recorded product. But, if you put the different guitars at volume with a band in a room, there are huge differences, and I would be reaching for a regular Les Paul, thought really the sire would be fine. Maybe put another way, if I was live in the room and wanted a Les Paul sound and could choose between the sire or my PRS 535, I'm going for the Sire. So it's not like it's bad or anything. Hope that helps in some way.
Thanks for this demo and great playing. Waiting for a black Sire L7 leftie similar to your Custom but like most, love the Gibson sound. Thinking about Seymour Duncan Pearly Gates pickups but not sure if I’ll need them as stock sounds pretty darn good. The voice on that Custom is so nice and clear. Guess I should have watched this all the way through before commenting. Along with the L7 I’ve ordered a black Sire H7V leftie and the blue T7FM. Not sure how much tone overlap I’ll have which is why I’m waiting to mod the L7. Was going to also order a sire V8 5 string but decided to hold off until I figure out 4 or 5 string. I’ll have to check your channel to see if that’s aV8 you have and what you think about it. As per my user name I’m a GTO fan and love my V8’s. Ok, now that this is over time to hit your channel and find out the rest of the story. Hmmm, where have I heard that before. Awesome review but then I’m biased into thinking the same way you have. Party on Garth, yes I have the other name a it’s my world. Rock on Adam!
@AdamGotheridge
4 ай бұрын
I think the GTO is more interesting. 🤘 My sire bass is I think a V5, but can't remember. Thanks
I cut the resistor for the treble bleed and it made it much better.
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I did that on my bridge pickup and it was a lot better for me too.
I just ordered one, only problem is that the only one available was the ugly yellow one. I got no problem with the ugly yellow as long as it meets the quality that I have experianced from other Sire guitars.
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
Good luck with it, and hop you like it!
Thanks for the great review!
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
Most welcome, and thanks.
I do want to say, it sounds nice, but I also think the LP Standard has the best clarity of the three. Even better than the custom, in my opinion.
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
Agree!
@nalaetsimba4400
Жыл бұрын
I don't agree. I think the Sire sounds brighter ( and I love it ❤)
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
@@nalaetsimba4400 It could be!
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Sounds great through that Splawn my man! Love the Foreigner & Dokken riffs
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! The Splawn is really cool and it does that one sound really well. On the other hand though, it always kind of sounds like that no matter how you set it.
Nice back-to-back, thanks. There isn't that big of difference to the sounds in to my ear. They are there, just not enough to convince me to pay 3x's more, (I do own several collector high end guitars but don't gig with them). I just pulled the trigger on a Sire, thanks again.
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and most welcome. Hope you like it!
Both have quality tones. The big thing is the fact a Les Paul cost over $2000 more dollars than the Sie L7. I know a player that owns several Les Pauls. He no longer plays them after he bought the Sire L7.
@AdamGotheridge
4 ай бұрын
They are a great value for sure.
@user-zn6gz4ub7w
4 ай бұрын
I bought the Sire S3 3 months ago. I am absolutely thrilled with it. I'm playing through a Korg ToneWorks AX1000 Multi-effects pedal board. My S3 so close to the way a Music Man LIII sounds like in overdrive. Has graet clean tones also.
@AdamGotheridge
4 ай бұрын
@@user-zn6gz4ub7w Thanks for the valuable feedback, and it doesn't surprise me.
I love my sire L7😊
Dude, this was awesome!
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Much thanks!
Excellent job man... ;) Very useful for me...Thx a lot
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and glad it was helpful!
Although the difference is subtle the standard has what it takes to make that difference between a good guitar lick and a great one.
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
L7 ordered in August. Single coil, 10dB boost, and switching choices coming!
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I didn't know you could spec options like that. Do you have an ETA for it?
@rcruz262
2 жыл бұрын
You can do that?
I love the sound of the custom.
@AdamGotheridge
7 ай бұрын
Thanks. I ended up replacing the pickups with some throwbacks and now it's really something special. Sounded good with the stock pickups too though.
Rush AND Stevie Wonder 😍
LOVED THE RUSH SONGS THAT YOU PLAYED!!!
In clean tones there's tiny differences but if we just listen without looking it's quite hard to hear the diferences.
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
Yes. I mentioned it in the video somewhere, but I'm playing each guitar a little different to make a sound I hear in my head, and there's no real way not to do that. I think the results sounds closer than the guitars really are when they are in your hand. They all sound like les Paul's though. 🤘
Great Job man!! Thank you!!
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
Thanks and most welcome!
Easily the best comparison video I've watched. Great job! Quick but relevant question: Are you built like an elk? Those guitars look kinda small in your mitts.
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, tried to honestly convey my thoughts on the whole thing. Elk - I think I'm looking more like an Elk all the time now that you mention it! 🤘I have pretty big hands, though they don't stretch very far wide. Arm span is weird too, like 7" more than my height. But really, I think I'm just getting old! BTW, I always get a kick out of watching Hendrix play, those necks just look tiny in his hands. Or DiMeola has really small hands, but doesn't seem to hinder him at all. Thanks!
Gets in tune, stays in tune , true music to my ears
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
I hear you. I struggle a lot more with the Gibsons.
20:17 End of travel sickness. xD
I have 3 Gibson Les Paul's and none of them are worth what I gave for them. I'm ordering a SIRE today, the SIRE sounds better to me. I'm listening to you through a VOX Mini SuperBeatle Bluetooth Audio amplifier and I am sold on SIRE. Thank you for your Videos, I thoroughly enjoyed myself. ✌️👍❤🎸👏🙏🎶🎼🪝ed on your Channel and Content. I Subscribed and hit the LIKE BUTTON 👍
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly! Your 3 Les Pauls - they can't be that bad? Anyway, I think the Sire is particularly a good deal. Good luck, and thanks again! 🙏
with a little bit Equ. tweaking and a Seymor Duncan's Pickups. they are sound very similar. it's all about brand. at 50 feet you dont even notice that you play a SIRE instead a Gibson
Awesome review and thanks for sharing this 😊..really appreciate it. Fancied a Les Paul with p90 for years ..I'm thinking of going out and getting this very viable option
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
I don't have a p90 LP either and would love to try the SireL7V which I'm sure would be great. A couple years ago a friend brought over a Gibson lp with p90's and it sounded fantastic in whatever rig I was playing though at the time. And thanks for the thanks! 🙏
@jockster5525
Жыл бұрын
@@AdamGotheridge I've had one previously, a custom shop version with p90 ...only one pickup..I have been looking for this sound for years . For me ..nothing better than p90s through a mesa boogie dual rectifier.. thanks for your efforts and response
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
@@jockster5525 I can imagine. The P90 les pauls, to me, is sort of the great tone of the LP with a little bit of a strat mojo mixed in. Someday I'll get one! 😎
For me, the concerns are playability and build quality. I’m not a concerned about the “sound”, most likely the pickups are coming out but that’s if it’s a purchase for me. I’ve been looking for a decent affordable option for my buddy’s kid. Sire has the look for sure, have to check one out in hand. I do like the 335 style guitar they make. Nice job man, thanks. 🤘🏻😷🤘🏻 Edit: I did subscribe also. I’m an older cat and you seem to have a no nonsense approach I can appreciate.
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Build quality is great. Locking tuners very good, works perfect, stays in tune. I have tried a couple different sets of pickups in the guitar since this video. A custom builder low wind paf style and a SD Saturday Night Special set. I think I like the stock pickups better. Good luck to you!
@DJBuglip
2 жыл бұрын
I haven't played one of those, so I can't speak to Sire, specifically, but I've bought about 6 "budget" guitars over the last couple years, and with very minimal setup they play every bit as well as the $4000 Gretsch I used to own. The advent of CNC machines has made making very solid, playable guitars a very affordable proposition.
@applesauceblues6952
Жыл бұрын
@@DJBuglip can you please tell me what brands were as good as the gretsch? I genuinely want to know because I’m hunting a great budget les paul style. So far Sire is the top of my list although I really want something with a fat gibson-like neck. The neck on a gibson is what has me wanting one so badly, I just can’t afford anything that high up in price.
@alementary4065
Жыл бұрын
@@applesauceblues6952 Seriously, check out the Agiles. 3000 series or higher. You're probably going to want to replace the pickups, switches, and wiring. But you simply will not find better bodies, necks, or frets. 3/4" maple caps on mahogany bodies, and you can even get a neck-through version that plays amazingly. Sounds like bullshit, but I got rid of one Gibson LP because the Agile plays better, and is better built from the factory. Yeah, it needs upgrades in some areas, but you can get the base guitar for $599. Spend $300 upgrading whatever you like (mine really LOVES the Slash Alnico II pickups...it SINGS), and you'll have the equal of any Gibson currently made.
@applesauceblues6952
Жыл бұрын
@@alementary4065 but they don’t fundamentally feel the same which is my issue. I need the gibson fat neck and wide chunky frets. I’ve heard agile necks are super slim and not as wide with narrower frets
I can find no difference between sire and gibson standard but custom one makes great sound. Thanks for the video
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
Most welcome. They sound a little more different from each other in the room, but yes, pretty close.
Only into the first clean comparison n already i prefer the sire.
@AdamGotheridge
5 ай бұрын
Interesting. Please let me know how you think the distorted comparison came out.
I really dig the way you play man. Isn't She Lovely was a very nice tune to pick for the demo.
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Love those Stevie Wonder tunes, and it's fun to and cop his keyboard vibe on guitar.
The Custom clean sounds the best. More dynamic and body. You even hear the wood. But standard and sire sounds pretty similar. I don't know the feel in the real word.
@AdamGotheridge
2 ай бұрын
I've since changed the pickups in the custom to the same in the standard. A like that a little better. Feel wise, they are all totally different, but not uncomfortable so. Lastly, the custom still sounds the most "woody" to me too.
@predigr
2 ай бұрын
@@AdamGotheridge I have a LP Standard and thinking to buy a Sire with P90 pickups version. Looks fantastic for the price.
@AdamGotheridge
2 ай бұрын
@@predigr I think it would be great with p90’s
the L7 is more than Great for the money!!!!
@AdamGotheridge
7 ай бұрын
Totally agree.
Isn’t it lovely
Very cool demo ,i support your vidéo !!!
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
And I all of yours!
Les Paul still has it to my ears..... Having said that the Sire is certainly value for money and not that far away.
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
Ditto!
I ordered the black one! I just hate pick guards :( I own quite a few LPs and takes me a long time to find ones without the holes
@AdamGotheridge
Ай бұрын
I’m one of the oddballs who likes the pick guard. I kind of learned how to play on a Les Paul with a pick guard and they feel weird to me without them.
To my ears the Custom sounds best. They play beautifully too.
Throughout out i preferred the Sire. Crispy and clean. Regardless the Gibby pickups being more expensive. For the money... As an expression...i find it patronising. Fantastic review.Thank you.
I bet that would put a smile on Stevie's face :)
Man where did you learn how to play so good, just the coolest sounds for a demo. now for my sour grapes moment lol most people don't have those high end amps so maybe just a review using an amp like a fender blues jr that more than not might be using. just a suggestion. Peace !
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
Good point, but it's still comparing guitar to guitar. "play so good" not so sure, but I do the best I can and have worked on this stuff for decades and continue to do so. It's fun, like a puzzle in a way. Cheers and thanks!
@jixxxxer17
Жыл бұрын
@@AdamGotheridge a broom stick would sound great thru those amps but yeah I get what you are saying, guitar to guitar, Thanks for reply.
The Sire L7 sounds like it has lower output pickups, a bit softer sounding.
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
Good ear. Output on the sire is about the same as the standard. The custom is quite a bit hotter. Sire maybe a little warmer, or less present than the standard.
There is something about a Gibson Les Paul. The Sire sounds good, and I'm sure it is, but the Gibby, well.
@AdamGotheridge
3 ай бұрын
Well said, and I couldn't agree more.
Sorry I was reading the comments, which was which, I missed it !
The Sire is more scooped, seems like it's not trying to emulate the real thing but rather have it's own flavour PS: came for the comparison, stayed for the great playing PS2: That Splawn amp sounds phenomenal!
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
Yes, a little less pronounced midrange. Love the Splawn, it does it's thing in spades. 🙏
@valendis
Жыл бұрын
@@AdamGotheridge Have you had the chance of trying the P90 one? It's called Sire L7V, I saw a demo of it, it sounded great!
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
@@valendis No, didn't know it was out. I don't have a p90 guitar, that would be a fun way to venture into those sounds. Thanks
I came to hear the guitar I stayed for your playing! Loved it! Everything is coming out way? GTFO! Thank you for that!
@AdamGotheridge
6 ай бұрын
Thank you! Very kind. 🙏
@doug941
6 ай бұрын
Thank you! Subscribed with the bell! @@AdamGotheridge
@AdamGotheridge
6 ай бұрын
@@doug941 Thanks Doug, really appreciated!
Killer to hear some proper tight gain! How is the tuning stability?
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
I think better than the Gibsons. 🤘Thanks
Thank you!
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
You are most certainly welcome! 🙂
The sound is too similar therefore you need to admit the price has a difference even though the guitars don't !
Bad Penny what a song
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if anyone would recognize that! Love that old Rory Gallager stuff.
@rd6144
2 жыл бұрын
@@AdamGotheridge I'm Irish, Rory is a god to me. Love playing his stuff always a lot of fun. This is the first of your videos I've seen, I'll be sure to subscribe, seriously considering getting the L7 and T7 by sire seem like a lot of guitar for the money
Great demo! Thanks Adam!
The L7 and the Gibson Custom sounded more alike ... the LP Standard sounded more ambient and warm
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Good description, "ambient". I think most people use the term "open", but your description makes sense.
Very helpful thank you
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful!
@888jimm
Жыл бұрын
@@AdamGotheridge - Hi Adam- What about the Seymours didnt you like? I`go back and forth with them, had Pearly gates in a neck thtu 25.5 HSH guitar and liked them. But they did have the mid range spike folks talked about that you can eq out ...watched a comparo between 59s and some way more expensive and my cork sniffing brain couldnt hear much if any difference.....thanks again
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
@@888jimm Nothing against SD, I just didn't like that Saturday night special set. They were bright, but no air, too hot, just kind of no tone. I've had a couple guitars with JB/jazz combo I liked those. Had a 59 a long time ago and didn't like that one. One thing to keep in mind with this stuff is the mic and it's position (or IR) really put sonic stamp on the recorded sound and makes things sound more similar than they really are (imo). Andertons recently did a really good comparison (technically) of speakers, and they all kind of sounded the same, but I have some of those speakers and they are completely different from one another. I think that's just a decent example of that. It's the same way in say this video, it comes out more or less the same, but they are quite different when you play them.
Nice demo man! It would be interesting to know if Sire located the bridge pup in the correct position? I know the Epiphone Les Pauls locate it further away from the bridge.
@AdamGotheridge
11 ай бұрын
Son of a gun, they are different. Measuring from the pickup (not the ring) to where the g string crosses the saddle, it's 1.25" on the Sire and .75" on both the standard and custom.
In your previous LP copy videos both the Standard LP and Custom shamed the competition. In this one while the Custom still remained supreme the L7 seemed to spark my ears a bit more (Yes I've had a Custom and two Standards (70's) I'd love to hear a comparison with the new sire L7 with p90's to your standard/
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
Me too. 😁
I've watched this video, yet again, and I must say that the Sire held its own against the Gibsons in that quaint setting. I'm sure that in a Stadium setting the Gibsons would outshine the Sire. With that being said, I do feel that when you played the Trees by RUSH that the Sire sounded the best. I will continue to occasionally chime in with comments as I really enjoy this video tremendously and will often watch it. I have yet to see a video comparing the Sire L7 vs an Epiphone. Can you please do one comparing that gold top Sire against an Epiphone Les Paul in the same price range? Thank you and Happy Holidays to you.
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Would love to do an Epiphone comparison, but a couple problems: 1, I'd have to buy one, 2, SW doesn't have any of the normal ones in stock. I did put different pickups in the Sire though, and that might be worth another short comparison, but it would really have to be against the Gibson's again. It might be interesting though because I'd use different amps this time. Last buy not least, thank you very much and Happy Holidays to you as well! Also, might add that I sent my Royer in for repair and would like to get that back before doing another one.
@wildesage4172
2 жыл бұрын
Don't be too sure a stadium would make much difference! There was a headline in October that Mike Rutherford is playing Bullet Strats on the Genesis tour right now. Lightly modified, but he's mostly using the stock pickups. Good enough for one of the biggest rock bands in history! Doesn't surprise me too much; when you're pushing multi-thousand dollar amps/hundred-thousand dollar back-of-house audio/million-dollar arena audio, the sound difference between [$ PAF-style] and [$$$ PAF-style] starts to become a smaller and smaller portion of the overall sound production going on. And Sire's founder has a special focus on pickup making, as well.
@jerryg.3080
Жыл бұрын
@@AdamGotheridge Which replacement pickups?
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
@@jerryg.3080 I tried an off brand, small mom & pop set, then a set of Duncan Saturday Night Specials. Ended up back to the stock pickups.
I cannot say that Sire sounds worse. In a blindfold comparison people would barely hear the difference or just made a false conclusion based on their expectations. Like the real Gibson should sounds warmer or louder etc… But in reality you could turn the tone knob a bit and people would say that it is a different guitar. Also Gibson’s tuners are garbage
man the standard sounded good!
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
In general, I think that's the best sounding of the bunch too.
In Your opinion would you say that the Sires pickups are a bit less powerful than the Gibson. That would lend to more top end and brightness. Gibby has more bottom and mids. I can see LC wanting to voice his pickups to play with a more mid scooped and clean (fendery) amp and the Sire's pickup voices would complement that... just a guess? I am looking to add a 2HB guitar and was leading toward a SG and putting in SD Jazz pickups for that bright, chimey top but this may fill that bill. Id appreciate your insight. Good review here cat.
@AdamGotheridge
6 ай бұрын
Great observations and you have really good ears! Sire pickups, you are right on. They are about the level of the throback's in the standard. Less output than say a gibson bust bucker 1 or 2 for reference. Some of that bottom end in the Gibsons is coming from the guitar itself, I think. The SD jazz might work well, but I wouldn't say they really have anything on the sire pickups. I had those in the neck position of a few guitars and liked them, so I feel I have a little reference there. I've been through 4 sets of pickups on the sire (stock, some custom ones (too bright), SD Saturday night special (yuck!), and currently emg 81/85). I liked the sire pickups the best so far. They are closer to my fancy throback pickups than say the burstbuckers. The sg or l7 - I borrowed a friends stock 64 sg for a while and it was the bomb in every way. So I picked up the normal Gibson 61 sg and it was a real dog. That lead me to getting a custom shop sg and that is decent, but it's not that old sg at all. So I put some $600 throwbacks in that one and didn't get any closer compared to the stock gibson custom buckers that it came with. My 2 cents is that I think in general, and especially for the money, the l7 is a great guitar as stock. Do I like the super expensive sg custom shop more, yes, but that is a ton more money too. Good luck with whatever you do, and thanks for the insightful comment!
@tylerholloway_gitpikin
6 ай бұрын
I greatly appreciate your counsel. I'll prob pull the trigger on one of these before long@@AdamGotheridge
@AdamGotheridge
6 ай бұрын
@@tylerholloway_gitpikin It's just my opinion, and your results may vary. 👍
I had to give you a like on the video. Great playing. You played Rush! I have the L7 and S7 models. The necks on them are wonderful. On your hypothetical 5k budget at the end, it sounded like you said a Sire strat, but that mustve been a Squire you held up? Cause I thought..my S7 doesnt have a front loading jack :)
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes, it was a fender Strat, but trying to make a point. How do you like the S7? Rush stuff - many moons ago I played in a Rush tribute band and still remember some of the stuff, somehow. 😌
@rogiemac
2 жыл бұрын
@@AdamGotheridge I have the white S7 and think it looks great and plays very smooth. Rush was my fave band in the 70's and early 80's. Lifting the arm of the record player back and listening to the same part over and over on the record while trying to figure out Alex's part on my guitar. Man, those were the days....
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
@@rogiemac Me too. I used to do it 4+ hours a day, probably 8 on weekends. Still have all the old records, they all scratched to hell from that.
@lionelhutz3170
Жыл бұрын
Are you still happy with the L7? I’m seriously considering one but also have an opportunity to buy a Tokai. Playability wise the sire takes it, but does it sound as good? Hard to say.
@jimmymac1981
Жыл бұрын
@@lionelhutz3170 I dont still have the L7, but it is still in the family. I gave it to my kid. He plays the hell out of it. Im an old guy who always wanted a Gibson LP, so I finally got one. I cant say the Gibson is definitively better than the L7 though 😂. Ive never played a Tokai, so I cant give an opinion, but I hear they are nice.
Supposed to be CLEAN SAMPLE, not Cean
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Dammit!
Thanks for the detailed comparison and explanation. I would like a L7, just the weight (nearly 5 kilo) might be the showtopper. Is the Sire the heavyweight amongst the LP's you have?
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
They are all so close that I can't tell a difference. 🙏
@stroopwafel6141
Жыл бұрын
@@AdamGotheridge Ok, thanks for the reply!
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
@@stroopwafel6141 You are most welcome! Good luck!
Custom stood out for me, clarity mostly....but all three sound superb. Skip the bass...requires an amp....get a Tele.
@AdamGotheridge
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, and yeah a certain thing to the custom. Maybe the amps helped (in hindsight now). Get a bass and a tele! 🤘
Despite the sound, how do they stand in term of feel?
@AdamGotheridge
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe better than the Gibsons.
@preciseaudioblog
2 жыл бұрын
@@AdamGotheridge Wow... thanks.