Gareth Southgate owes his legacy to the luck of the draw. Imagine that England had tough teams in the last 16 or QF matches of each tournament..? Morocco and Croatia are achieving...and if either of them make the final, Southgate must go.

@version736ha2

Жыл бұрын

I've also thought that.

@spinyslasher6586

Жыл бұрын

Morocco and Croatia aren't flukes a lot of naysayers said they were, they won because they played with the mentality to win with a coach that knew exactly what the team was good at. For me the biggest disappointment wasn't Kane's penalty miss, it was how the team seemed dead after that. It wasn't like France was puttting up a defensive masterclass (although Lloris was really good), the English attack just seemed dead and tired in the last few minutes.

@joewhite22

Жыл бұрын

Imagine if he was managing in 2014. Like Hodgson he wouldn't have got out of the group either because there were 2 big teams in that group.

@yosephbaomer7023

Жыл бұрын

@@mazdakmina9493 👍100% agree and also in that Euro 2004 game v France David Beckham missed a penalty.

@joewhite22

Жыл бұрын

@@mazdakmina9493 Well we didn't finish top of our 2018 WC group under Southgate either but we still went on to have an easier draw facing Colombia and then Sweden. Also Southgate has never been hit with bad injuries before a tournament or during one, something that certainly plagued Sven. He has been very fortunate in that respect. My opinion is if he was managing England back in those days we'd still have probably gone out at the same stages, as he's proven in this era, he still can't beat the big teams in KO games, unless there is a home advantage.

Southgate bottled it. He always does. The momentum was in our favour after equalising, he should have been proactive with substitutions and gone for it. What does he do instead? He waits until the moment has gone and we've conceded, then takes off our best player, and tosses on Rashford and Grealish in desperation with seconds to go. Criminal.

@chriswilkinson7636

Жыл бұрын

Taking Saka off was a huge mistake. The French defence were panicking every time he got the ball.

@mh9tv

Жыл бұрын

Exactly right.. if southgate is so good why has he never managed a top champions league team? Even in the future he wont. Coz all the club chairman knows he is crap

@mikecarlton9000

Жыл бұрын

Everytime France attacked for a prolonged period they scored. France was only in first year the entire game.

@johnneil14

Жыл бұрын

@@mh9tv He wouldn't even get a job in the Premier League.

@joeexotic5831

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree, youve got the 2nd best free kick taker and best crosser of the ball in the world in trent sitting on the bench, henderson was motm, he took the wtong players off, which is 1 thing, but he also got the tactics wrong as well, the world class teams play like that from the first whistle, not respct the opposition and sit back for 30 minutes. They werent allowed to play or get out of defensive mode until france had scored. A brazil legend recently said, england will win nothing whilst a coach choices to leave a player like trent out of the team and play defensive instead, if he was brazilian hed start every game, reminds me of my old team mate Cafu, cant remember which player it was but this was s world cup winner. His comment was not just about trent, that was just an example of the negative thinking he sees from england coaches, to worried about failing to actually take chances and win things. As klopp says, risk and reward, 3 out of 5 CL titles, every time trent and hendo played psg, with mbappe and neymar they do nothing, haha

Just the English man I wanted to listen to. Spot on Simon, always talk sense. It is about winning, Mbappe made it clear in his interview, France came to win the World Cup as their main objective. The English press built the whole encounter to be about stopping Mbappe forgetting the world champions despite their injury concerns have other dangerous world class players ready to hurt them.

@minaminx

Жыл бұрын

If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.

@LostSpider

Жыл бұрын

@@minaminx Nonsense, got awarded 2 penalties and still lost.

@minaminx

Жыл бұрын

@@LostSpider clearly you never actually played football. bless

@LostSpider

Жыл бұрын

@@minaminx lol, really? most people have played football on their life, it is the most commun sport in the world, what a bold statement you make

@minaminx

Жыл бұрын

@@LostSpider i stand by my statement

"We were the better side" we gonna hear this statement for the next year and half at least WTF

@stevebird7265

Жыл бұрын

Surely the better side is the one that can find the back of the net the most? Yes, we had more possesion, but most of it was passing it around our own half and back towards our own goal! We cannot rely on Penalties and generous referee's to get our goals all the time. If players tried staying upright around the goal area instead of diving for a penalty, they may actually get a chance to kick the ball in the net! These players are getting paid hundreds of thousands a week, and demand our adulation. So get out there and start earning it!

@muzwot9603

Жыл бұрын

Yep, same old pathetic England.

@elboxeo403

Жыл бұрын

@@stevebird7265 Well said. the French left the ball to England, which was a mistake because they are not a great defensive team.

@5thdawg917

Жыл бұрын

That's Sky Sports, BBC pundits & the Gary Neville, Gary Lineker crews who are going to say that. They are more concerned about Qatars human rights and lgbt BS than the country's football team

@JG-us9lu

Жыл бұрын

@@stevebird7265 Spot on.

Simon spot on. Stop applauding mediocrity

@MrAnotherworld23

Жыл бұрын

If southgate has been mediocre then I'd love to hear your classification on the likes of Hodgson, Capello, Mclaren and so on...

@anothersockaccount652lol

Жыл бұрын

He has been mediocre. He has lost every game against a top 10 team for the last 8 years.

@Murph_82

Жыл бұрын

@MrAnotherworld23 those lot were up against formidable opponents we a not very good England team.. tit

@onlyme8117

Жыл бұрын

Excellent awesome synchronicity of the kneeling of the knee. Well done lads.

@MrAnotherworld23

Жыл бұрын

@@anothersockaccount652lol How does losing against a TOP team make you mediocre? Again I ask you about the names I just mentioned, how do you classify them then?

Bang on Simon. Southgate has taken this team as far as he could and well done to him for that. Someone else needs to come in and bring the ruthlessness that this team needs to finally close out a tournament win. Not good enough with the talent this squad has. If you look at other teams like Argentina or Croatia, they don't have as much talent on paper but their coach squeezes every extra ounce from each player such that they perform, as a collective, above expectations. England players, on the other hand, seem to play at or below expectations. That comes down to the coaching and strategy.

@felixadams3658

Жыл бұрын

Bang on mate that comment

@elshaddaibent446

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Southgate is very similar to OGS at man United. He brough the camaraderie and feel good factor but Southgate, like OGS is not a great tactician nor won a trophy at the top level as a manager. He has done a good job, now it time for someone more ruthless, who will get the team over the line.

@lamestreammedia3154

Жыл бұрын

The squad has improved the manager hasn't

@marcelohendrix6139

Жыл бұрын

i don’t think coaching makes you miss a penalty

@Cedisdead

Жыл бұрын

Argentina have a better team then England tho

"Martin Keown's ridiculous wall chart" 😂

@robertmason6366

Жыл бұрын

I know....insane lol.... last week when they were both on talk sport known actually mentioned "it could be a Ronaldo Messi final and what a mouth watering prospect that would be" Simon done this legendary grin and someone on the thread picked up on it saying " Simon laughing at Kevin and his wall chart"

@marksmarsh2039

Жыл бұрын

Well i bet a lot on Uruguay to win World Cup.

@Treacletownproductionsuk

Жыл бұрын

Best comment 😂

Why do people keep saying that England was a better side than France during the game, it's absolutely rubbish. They spent most of the time passing and holding the ball in their own half without creating that many really menacing chances, France on the other hand looked dangerous every time they got the ball and countered.

@sphenoidjjj

Жыл бұрын

That's true

France seemed like they could score everytime they wanted/needed

@mikecarlton9000

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, English fans are deluded. They have a decent team, but compared to the rest, they are average.

@irlgman3566

Жыл бұрын

And thats the deciding factor! France have proven world class game winners , where as England have a squad of over hyped players who nobody outside of the UK rates highly, for every saka or rashford or bellingham there will always be a better French, Brazilian,portuguese , Spanish young player out there , English media wont tell you that though ;)

@Rowlph8888

Жыл бұрын

BS - you cannot read a game clearly

@anthonystephenheath3752

Жыл бұрын

@@mikecarlton9000 we don't over hype that's the press what's your country pal ?

@paulearl8203

Жыл бұрын

@Mike Carlton comment makes absolutely no sense ha. Who are the rest? An elite few? England are indisputably a good side. Average would be sides being knocked out in group stages.

Couldn’t agree more! This guy love or hate him he speaks sense!!

@rarebreed748

Жыл бұрын

Your wife said the same thing to me

@markharte4128

Жыл бұрын

@@rarebreed748 it’s true your name 😭😭🐁

@rarebreed748

Жыл бұрын

@@markharte4128 don't get angry with me, blame yourself, I guess you have a picture of Simon on your phone screen

@markharte4128

Жыл бұрын

🤫🤫🤫🤫❤️❤️❤️❤️😍🥰😘💋

@rarebreed748

Жыл бұрын

@@markharte4128 that shut you up

Agreed Simon. So many similarities with 02 and 22 campaigns. In both, we had the game in our hands. But when it was in our hands, instead of a brave coach who makes the changes to win the game, they are passive. The cricket team are benefitting from a brave approach, with spectacular results. Gareth has took us from rubbish to good. But it's time for someone else to win us something, hopefully in my lifetime!!

@Klinsmann1985

Жыл бұрын

That's not quite how I remember 2002. I know we went 1-0 but I seem to remember it was a pretty flat performance apart from that. This was definitely a more impressive performance, but unfortunately the same result

@jimmyboe889

Жыл бұрын

@@Klinsmann1985 In 2002 the English team was much stronger than the one now and had a much better match against probably the best Brazil of all time who lined up 3 golden balls at the same time, Rivaldo, Ronaldo and Ronaldinho and who had Kaka , Roberto carlos, and more... The match was very tight and the English almost took the Brazilians out if Rivaldo and Ronaldinho hadn't performed miracles on the pitch, especially Ronaldinho with his free kick but in short... In 2002 they were much better than your current team against a Brazil much better than our French team (yes I am French) L'angleterre en 2002 a était la seule équipe qui a donné du mal à ce brésil injouable qui a gagné la compétition, tout le monde disait que c'était la finale avant l'heure tellement les deux équipes étaient fortes

@Klinsmann1985

Жыл бұрын

@@jimmyboe889 I was more thinking about the way the two games panned out. It felt like Brazil won that game quite comfortably even with 10 men. (Admittedly it was a long time ago so obviously I don't remember it that clearly!) This match France were hanging on for a period so it seems more like a game England should have won. In comparing the two teams I think there is an element of legend bias there. You're talking about players long since retired so already part of folk lore. Not disagreeing with anything you said about that incredible Brazil side but don't sell your french boys short. They could become only the third team in history to retain the world cup, despite a number of key players injured, including current world player of the year! I think this generation of French players will go down as one of the greatest in history, and I wouldn't be surprised if this English team is one of your main rivals for the next two or three tournaments.

@pritapp788

Жыл бұрын

You will see England win something, don't you worry. UEFA Nations League B is not very prestigious, but when you're in England's position any title is worth collecting.

@minaminx

Жыл бұрын

If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.

As a Frenchmen!!, this is by far the best best thing ever!!!, I hope there is more the come, World cup 4522, maybe England might have a chance to break into the finals!!!, lol

@sidco123

Жыл бұрын

Mate. It's coming home in 4522!

@leeelton6774

Жыл бұрын

Ryan the French Liverpool fan 😂

@ryan_liverpoolfanryan_ryan103

Жыл бұрын

@@leeelton6774 what's so bad about this also what's so funny, I have the right to select a team....if British carry on about the EPL being the best club in the world then people like me have the right to select a club, in this case it happens to be Liverpool.

Think about this... The ONLY truly elite team we've beaten in a knockout match at a major tournament was Germany in 1966 - 56 YEARS ago! That's one scary fact.

@stephenherron8780

Жыл бұрын

And the ball didn’t cross the line,Germany were robbed!!!

@questionmaker5666

Жыл бұрын

@@stephenherron8780 Even with that goal disqualified, England still would have won, it just would have been 3-2 instead of 4-2.

@rohnnyjotten3985

Жыл бұрын

Morrocco have won more games against top opposition in the last 3 weeks than England have since 1966.... and if VAR existed back then......

@rohnnyjotten3985

Жыл бұрын

@@questionmaker5666 did that 'goal' not take it to extra time?

@davidforman6191

Жыл бұрын

@@questionmaker5666 Germany wouldn't have been chasing an equaliser when Hurst scored the 4th. All ifs and buts though.

The game was shocking England not playing attacking football with that squad they have is shocking Southgate needs humbling

@rohnnyjotten3985

Жыл бұрын

Problem is, play too attacking and you expose Maguire...

@richardhorrocks1460

Жыл бұрын

We scored 13 goals and missed one penalty in five games.

@celtbhoy

Жыл бұрын

6 goals against Iran (who were elsewhere with their heads) and 3 against Wales, the weakest team in this competition.

@gulinp1

Жыл бұрын

@@richardhorrocks1460 against powerhouses of Iran, USA, Sengal and Wales.... stunning.

@l.n.b7312

Жыл бұрын

He needs to fucking resign

Simon Jordan …has just explained how I feel about this World Cup,thank you.

In my 36 years England 99% of the time lose to the big teams. Germany, Italy, France, Argentina, Brazil. Spain 🤔 not as consistent as them 5 teams above. We just don't have that killer instinct unfortunately

@ronniep9272

Жыл бұрын

It's not the killer instinct, it's the players.

@rjjcms1

Жыл бұрын

I think it IS the killer instinct,though there were at least two or three squads in this World Cup boasting a wealth of talent to more than match England's.

France was the first game that we weren’t almost assured to win, and we lost it.

@mccleandazza4618

Жыл бұрын

Always the way Italy Croatia Belgium France Anytime they play a decent team they fold

@walshy5144

Жыл бұрын

I’m used to it after all these years .😢

@MrDaiseymay

Жыл бұрын

OR---Franced was the only team that gave us match . i.e REAL COMPETITION.

@pooriaansari1674

Жыл бұрын

France was playing with a Midfield that played together for the first time in a tournament. No Kante No Pogba.

@paull7926

Жыл бұрын

@@mccleandazza4618 true but this england team was the second best team in the World Cup, had they not had to play the world champs they would have won the World Cup this year same with Argentina last World Cup if they didn’t have to play France. Argentina played France the best last World Cup and england as you will see played France the best this World Cup but that’s how much France is above any other team, France played their d game and england was gifted two penalty kicks and still France comfortably won, France always let’s the other team dominate time of possession

Simon Jordan is bang on once again

First time hearing this dude talk and damn,Farley's impression is bang on😂😂😂

@heeeeeresrossy

Жыл бұрын

I've watched quite a few of Simon's reactions/opinions on various things. And most of the time he can't help himself from mentioning that he used to own Crystal Palace. Darren picked up on that brilliantly, as well as his mannerism's & 'fancy' words. Brilliant! 👌🤣

@minaminx

Жыл бұрын

If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.

Simon on point. 24 games against opponents ranked in top 10 under Southgate and only 4 wins in those games...

@steve10

Жыл бұрын

Because he treats those games like league games , Southgate would rather have had 1-1 and lost on pens , because its an easier narrative than losing the game in extra time, so because of that outlook when we equalised he got us to hold rather than continue the all out attack, and France called his bluff

@blacklightning7570

Жыл бұрын

@@steve10 ole Gunnar southgate

@cockoffgewgle4993

Жыл бұрын

Games outside of tournaments are irrelevant. Friendlies and glorified friendles.

@ruod5921

Жыл бұрын

Because England just aren't that good..... its simple

@24magiccarrot

Жыл бұрын

@@steve10 What do you think is more likely, England are always tactically wrong regardless of who the manager has been, players always underperform regardless of the players or in reality England aren't as good at football as they think they are? It would certainly be bizarre if the tactics were always wrong and the players always under-performed, especially when you consider all of the genuine top nations in the world have all been in multiple tournament finals, England on the other hand have only made finals when they've played at home.

“Crystal Palace, a club I used to own” hahahah Darren Farley anyone

@jasonpalmer4001

Жыл бұрын

I literally watched the Farley one just before this and thought exactly the same 😂😂

@sammybeck4855

Жыл бұрын

Luca Perri = Top LAD Proper Clobber

@lucaperri4088

Жыл бұрын

@@sammybeck4855 = Top LAD Proper Clobber

@InAMinMaths

Жыл бұрын

6:12

@cockoffgewgle4993

Жыл бұрын

"Crystal Palace, I club I bankrupt"

Stop making excuses. With the talent in the England squad this can be called nothing but a failure.

@Stinkmeaner420

Жыл бұрын

You could easily say the same of the golden generation

@jrazor5624

Жыл бұрын

Overrated QF level players

@marksmarsh2039

Жыл бұрын

i do not agree. We were just unfortunate to have to play the world cup holders anywhere but the final. France capable of beating anybody in this tournament as they'll surely prove this week

I'm still laughing at the Commentators remarks on the night. "We needed Gary Lineker but got Chris Waddle!" 😂

@marksmarsh2039

Жыл бұрын

that was a gooden but bit cruel on Chris

Think what you will about Simon Jordan but he’s ALMOST always balanced. “It’s easy to fire someone but who do you replace him with?”… very well said.

@minaminx

Жыл бұрын

If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.

Tell that to Danny Mills 😂😂😂

@djharto4917

Жыл бұрын

Danny mills enuf said

@Bobbynutty

Жыл бұрын

Spot on 😂😂😂😂😂

The better side scores the most goals, France scored then sat back, Eng equalised and France upped their game again, Eng were not the better side, France were, they scored 2 brilliant goals.

@IbrahimAli-po1hd

Жыл бұрын

Giroud could’ve scored another goal and dembele could’ve scored

@shortznig2938

Жыл бұрын

@@IbrahimAli-po1hd rabiot too had a good chance

@marksmarsh2039

Жыл бұрын

Don't be daft . We were unlucky not to take a 2-1 lead. Not saying France would not have come back to win but this is football. Especially in close matches it just comes down to inches

Harry Maguire second goal for France was one of his best. He never let's me down 👏🤣🤣

@johndixon7007

Жыл бұрын

It’s was Stones as well who should have helped in. Watch the goal again. Stones doing nothing. Not even covering the space in front of Maguire. Also, how the hell as Griezman got so much time and space to deliver?

@arrowhead2612

Жыл бұрын

@@johndixon7007 Imagine if Trent was on the pitch for that Griezmann cross instead of Walker, he'd be crucified.

@sukhdevr3489

Жыл бұрын

@@johndixon7007 He's overrated because he barely has to defend at City as they have the ball the whole game. When he's tested he's not solid at all.

I've literally been waiting since Saturday for this 😂

“A good fight isn’t when you put-up Jim, a good fight is when you win, and we put up a lot of good fights.” - Simon Jordan with the exclamation point!

@yassinetoumi6198

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure they put up a good fight for lgbtQ,now tell Harry to go back to England and wear one love ❤ armband, lol,exit well deserved 👏 gay nation should go and meet them at the airport and give them a warm welcome hugs and kisses 💋 hhhhh

@sibonisoduma5878

Жыл бұрын

Story of English football.

@minaminx

Жыл бұрын

If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.

Was waiting for Simons reaction

@sammybeck4855

Жыл бұрын

Mechayq and Simon = Top LADS Proper Clobber

It's so nice for someone to say it how it is. For a team full of "superstars", why do they never turn up? Because they aren't the world class players they're talked up to be.

@mandlaveyi3411

Жыл бұрын

Who is the superstar in the english team?overated average players

@garvielloken10th

Жыл бұрын

@@mandlaveyi3411 Exactly my point

@garvielloken10th

Жыл бұрын

@@henrik4173 Exactly my point

@phildemetriou440

Жыл бұрын

@@mandlaveyi3411 who is the superstar in the Moroccan team ? Yet, they're in the semi final.

@mandlaveyi3411

Жыл бұрын

Team work not overated players like England

Maddison is the most in form player in the league, he played Mount ahead of him again. Southgate out

The one Englishman not totally corrupted by blinding arrogance. Credit to his clear vision, this English team could've achieved more.

@bluesEvanskro

Жыл бұрын

What you on about, any other England fan who says what he just said would be bombarded as being arrogant, but thankfully foreigners actually listen to Simon jordan who speaks for us all English fans being arrogant is the biggest myth in football

@MrConstantMalachi

Жыл бұрын

Southgate falls into the same category though. Honest as the day's long.

@goattm2

Жыл бұрын

@@bluesEvanskro No it isn't. When the whole planet thinks you are arrogant as well as ignorant, take it as a sign that you are arrogant and ignorant.

@bluesEvanskro

Жыл бұрын

@@goattm2 nope it’s a myth end of, and you can’t convince me otherwise

@matthewstevens1736

Жыл бұрын

This is largely based on jealousy from WW2 as England was never conquered by Nazi Germany. Much of mainland Europe still hasn’t got over the fact that our rainy little island was never successfully invaded, coupled with the fact that our language is now the World’s primary method of communication. In terms of football we’re relatively humble.

It's the same every tournament. As a seeded team we sail thru the qualifiers and group games then get found out in the knock outs. I've said for the past year and a half that if we couldn't win even one of the last two tournaments we've got no chance on neutral ground

I always felt France were in control and could up the pressure at will, but they were just playing in a very calm way. They were missing 3 of their best players in Pogba, Benzema and Kante. We were playing defensively and trying to nick a goal.

Didn't they bend the knee well though

England had twice the shots but half of them were off target. If it wasn’t for the penalties England wouldn’t have gotten any goals. They looked good coming down the pitch but by the last third they could only try to come in from the flanks and couldn’t create anything.

@marksmarsh2039

Жыл бұрын

some of what you say is OBVIOUS [ You know the part ] but i kinda agree with you on the rest. With the players we have we should have created much more , been more imaginative and more dangerous

@stephenhill545

Жыл бұрын

France played a back 5 and England couldn't break them down, like Belgium in 2018.

@Dreyno

Жыл бұрын

France were playing like Italy of old. Give the opposition the ball in their own half, defend the last third like demons and hit on the break. England passing the ball in triangles in their own half is exactly what France let them do. And France stopping England in the last third is what they set out to do. A Pirlo, a Modric or a Xavi would’ve seen what was happening and changed tactics and created something. England don’t have that player.

@minaminx

Жыл бұрын

If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.

@minaminx

Жыл бұрын

@@stephenhill545 If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.

The is a reason Jose, Pep and klopp are different. They dont teach players football. They teach the players how to Win. Add Ancelotti and TT in this list. These 5 are the one England NT team needs to overcome the biggest mental Block.

@marksmarsh2039

Жыл бұрын

To be England manager one must have an English passport.

@ahmedkhatib3582

Жыл бұрын

@@marksmarsh2039 oh capello had english passport never knew that.

@marksmarsh2039

Жыл бұрын

Yes and Eriksson i know but we have moved on from them times. NOW the manager must be English. That is what i meant to say

@marksmarsh2039

Жыл бұрын

Pep and Klopp are ofcourse great managers

@marksmarsh2039

Жыл бұрын

if the Chelsea manager can get his act together he is in with a great chance

The difference between Deschamps and Southgate. No Kante and Pogba and they still habe found a way in this WC. Gareth had a full squad at his disposal. He has done well but now he has reached his Peak with this talented group

So funny listening to Danny Mills 🤣

The script was written from the minute we knew we would face the French, it was all about how would or could we cope with Mbappe, all the focus was on Walker v Mbappe. Not saying don't mark him, not saying whenever possible double up on him, and definitely not saying get a challenge in on him so he knows he is in a game. But there has to be balance, otherwise as 'we' proved we go into a vital game on the back foot, if we had scored first, we wouldn't have gone for the second or third. The cricket team has shown what happens when someone is brave enough to say, just ho out and play, show what you can do, and unless you make a complete and utter balls up, your in the team for the next game. The subs with the exception if Mount were pointless, Sterling shouldn't have gone back, far too much on his mind, Grealish far too late, and overloading one wing with Grealish and Foden, not something Southgate has figured out

What was amazing was how quick and fast the strikers looked. Like jesus Christ ..reminded me of the movie shaolin soccer.

Every bloody tournament, "We're going to win.. its coming home" same old same! So boring now.🙄 We were never going to win the world cup!

Absolutely spot on!!

Simons spot on massive wasted chance with the players we have , new manager 🙏

The 2nd June 2002 was the last time England beat a Top tier team at a major tournament. World Cup and Euro Champs. 1-0 v Argentina. This is latest of about 5 Golden Generations. Commentary at the weekend called Argentina eternal chokers. It’s coming home!(again, really). Spot on Simon.

Absolutely spot on from Simon once again.

I have a great respect for Simon. When the pre-Match talk was there in all TV Shows , most English commentators ( i mean those who supported England to win ) were more worried about the French attack , particularly Mbappe and Griezmann and they said much of containing the french attack for most of the time. Their projection of the English attack was only after speaking of the French attack . Some commentators even called for a penalty to decide the outcome. That means you placed the faith on Jordan or Pope to come to your penultimate rescue with an assumption that Lorris shall make the mistake , and the rest of 90 mins + Additional time were already decided to be on the defensive . In contrast, the french, were confident of their attack . They always had the faith that Mbappe or Griezmann would find the nets With a defensive mindset ends with securing a draw is the limit of victory , whereas , it is always a calculated attack , built on strategy of assault is the path to the victory . Despite the fact that the french attack was superior and more decisive , England played fantastically well most of the game and gave in everything , But the french were more confident. I think that confidence is going to multiply and is to be carried on till the end of the final. Based on this confidence and the abilities , i say this before the event ; Look for the match of France vs Morocco. France is going to have the first goal and when the first goal has come for France , Morrocon defence is going to fall apart and a blood bath of goals is likely to follow .

True, in the last 3 tournaments we have not beaten any top teams. We beat Germany in the Euro ‘s who were very poor as the world cups either side of the Euro’s have shown and we lost to Italy who failed to even qualify for the World Cup.

@stephenhill545

Жыл бұрын

Maybe we're not a great team.

@Genevasplaytime

Жыл бұрын

I would say denmark were a top team but still trash history from us

The "at least" mentality is dangerous, trust me. I'm from South Africa. Our country was once a power house of African football in the 90s, but now it's a complete disaster to the point that we don't even qualify for continental tournaments. The "at least" mentality is so dangerous that it could influence the players as well.

@mccleandazza4618

Жыл бұрын

Power house ?????? When lol

@gencemosia9355

Жыл бұрын

@@mccleandazza4618 They won a continental title in the 90s. When last did England win anything, again?🤔

@chiefnkosi7705

Жыл бұрын

@@gencemosia9355 someone laughed at me when I said the SA top flight is equivalent to the English league 2. The delusion in thinking SA is still producing good talent is.....👎.. Your comment is spot on.

@spinyslasher6586

Жыл бұрын

@@mccleandazza4618 in the 90s, they were genuinely one of the best FT in Africa back then.

@1DaKidSA

Жыл бұрын

@@mccleandazza4618 RSA won the 1996 AFCON (1st year they were eligible to participate due to apartheid) Almost the whole squad were playing for clubs in Europe including Quinton Fortune (ManUtd) Mark Fish & Shaun Bartlett (Charlton) Lucas Radebe & Phil Masinga (Leeds Utd) Eric Tinkler (Barnsley) Andre Arendse (Fulham) & many more. Next generation was pretty good too with Steven Pienaar, Benni McCarthy & Co, but failed to achieve much.

France and England were probably about equal in that game. However in the fine margins, they have a manager in Deschamps who was proactive enough to make the right changes at the right time to get the job done. Southgate can't do that. We said exactly the same when Mancini's Italy side beat us in the Euros Final. Southgate is a safe pair of hands, he rebuilt the team and gave us good foundations. But he'll never take us further

@ahmedzakikhan7639

Жыл бұрын

France barely changed - played dembele long who is useless

@marksmarsh2039

Жыл бұрын

we lost to France. 2-1. Anybody would think we had lost to China 10-0 the way some fans and pundits are goin on.

Saka and Foden were literally the only creative players who went past players like Mbappe...problem is lack of freedom to be creative for quite possibly some of the most creative players in world football

@invincible0463

Жыл бұрын

Saka created all our opportunities

@Keith_Lard

Жыл бұрын

Saka was England's best player but foden was anonymous

@marksmarsh2039

Жыл бұрын

How many Maradona's do you want us to have? Two is enough in a team

Simon Jordan talking absolute sense. Please can I propose a major change in how we manage and play our international football in England. Look at the England cricket team now. A little over a year ago they were hammered in Australia and then the West Indies. England we dreadful. Since the change of coach and captain a new ethos on how we play the game has come in and has produced startling results. England beat New Zealand and South Africa playing this new attacking at all costs game last summer and now have won (today) a test series in Pakistan. Which by the way is amazing. Same players but a new direction. The England football team needs to change its attitude to how it plays the game and it needs to get metaphorically on the front foot and literally go for it in matches. England to me look ordinary for too long in matches and seem petrified to try things. There has to be a change. I know cricket is a completely different game to football; however, look at the results. Change the attitude - take away the fear of losing and galvanise the players into becoming confident in winning. If you always do as you’ve always done then you’ll only ever get what you’ve always got. CHANGE that is what is needed.

Eng beat Iran, Wales and Senegal, not good enough to win a World Cup.

Spot on as always Simon. Love listening to this man! 👏

@minaminx

Жыл бұрын

If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.

Simon's right. We have progressed off the field (team image, comeradery etc.) but on the field we've not pulled off a single upset at tournament level...

Simon did mention before that Southgate has not been tested !

Gareth has reached his ceiling I’m afraid, about time we get a manager to kick us on to the next level. Thank you Gareth for what you’ve done, but it’s time for a change

@davidwan7603

Жыл бұрын

Thomas Tuchel in?

@MK_Twenty9

Жыл бұрын

@@davidwan7603 potentially yes, I’d love poch but he’s not elite

SO so true. If we don't win we've failed. It's 56 years since we've won anything. Simon is spot on. England will never win a tournament unfortunately - otherwise we would have done so by now!

@spanishpeaches2930

Жыл бұрын

Yup.

@ArturoSubutex

Жыл бұрын

What are you talking about? It took Spain 80 years to win their first world cup and they weren't saying "we're gonna win it this time" every time they had a good team, nor were they saying "we'll never win it" every time they'd get knocked out. The Netherlands and Portugal have never won it and yet the Netherlands went to the finals and to the semifinals more times than England did (3 times to 1 and 5 times to 3, respectively) - but they're not making a fuss about it. They know that's not how the World Cup works. You never know for sure that you're gonna win it, even with the best team and the best tactics, sometimes you need a bit of luck and the coin doesn't fall on your side. You take it, learn from it, and go back next time knowing that the odds are *always* against you - whether you're Germany, France, Spain, Brazil, Italy, Argentina, or England. England have the most talented national team in the world rn (along with maybe France and Portugal). 2026-2030 will probably be their best chance since 1966 but with this entitled-winner-whiny-loser mindset, I'm afraid it won't happen

@faithpearlgenied-a5517

Жыл бұрын

Never? Lol you have no idea what will happen in 10 years or 20 or 40. Get a grip.

@siroswaldfortitude5346

Жыл бұрын

@@ArturoSubutex spot on

@davehoward22

Жыл бұрын

If money and investment does to english football what it has done to the olympic team then the skys the limit..eventually..

Spot on Simon and talk sport keeping it real 👏👏👏…

In our time, we will never see England win the World Cup! 😖

@dwanyewest

Жыл бұрын

The women's national team has more chance of winning a world cup before the men do.

@Parky_1712

Жыл бұрын

It's alright, I've seen England win 4

@MG-hi9sh

Жыл бұрын

Nor a Euros. England might not ever win anything again.

@dwanyewest

Жыл бұрын

@@MG-hi9sh Southgate blew England's best ever chance since 1966 at the Euro's. I can't see the men winning a major tournament in my lifetime.

@luciusesox1luckysox570

Жыл бұрын

Why ? Jeez, talk about glass half empty.

Not a big England fan but I do follow the team. But as a big Arsenal fan the word ‘potential’ is haunting. We had so many sides that were labelled as title-winning sides in three years time or something but it never happened. I just hope England deliver the next Euros bc otherwise idk if they ever will win something.

@minaminx

Жыл бұрын

If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.

@unclefester831

Жыл бұрын

@@minaminx 😂😂😂 COPE HARDER.

@minaminx

Жыл бұрын

@@unclefester831 your easily duped , bless

Absolutely bang on Simon. England have not beaten any of the giants of international football in a knock out round in a world cup since 1966 which is bleedin' absurd

Southgate needs someone to assist him in specifically managing the game and substitutions and reading the game because he seems to be good at everything except that and that's kinda important 😏

SJ nails it! 👍

@GIBBO4182

Жыл бұрын

You haven’t even had time to watch it yet! Was only posted 2 minutes ago! 😂

Simon talks more sense than most of the ex professionals who are frankly too timid to call out Southgate on anything

Great one Mr Simon once again

You have to look at the fact, that a lot of power houses had already went home, even in the group stages.

Southgate has to go

@strider775

Жыл бұрын

Who replaces Southgate? I would 100% go for Eddie Howe.

@pizzagateisreal

Жыл бұрын

@@strider775 pochetino

@sammybeck4855

Жыл бұрын

@@pizzagateisreal PizzaGateIsReal = Top LAD Proper Clobber

Spot on again. Safegate will never win us a tournament, he’s had 3 attempts, I hope he now sees it’s time to go

Hang on a minute didn’t they score 2 goals against you from open play???

With France defence under the cosh and Mbappe reasonably quiet why didn't Southgate introduce TAA. Accurate balls into the box would have caused havoc.

What happened to building the England team around Jack wilshere, how did that work out?

@Kevin-lf4xx

Жыл бұрын

Great point .I expect Foden and Grealish to go the same way. I suspect Sterling’s international career is already in decline.Same happened with Theo Walcott.

Rashford should have been brought on way earlier, Kane offered absolutely nothing.

@tyler328

Жыл бұрын

As soon as we scored we should have brought him on, we desperately needed pace

@iEldilo

Жыл бұрын

🤡🤡

@jimmyf1446

Жыл бұрын

Rematch the game 🤣

@keef6586

Жыл бұрын

Kane is irremovable. That’s why Southgate has to go, he has too many favourites.

Well said. Can't disagree with anything there

At that level it’s about winning ruthlessly

Simon is a master of sneaking jabs at other people while making a valid point😅 ..genius !

I love this point Simon made about certain players in our squad especially some youngsters. They play will for a season or 2 in the premier league and then come across top European prospects on the European and international stage they crumble.

In post match intterviews Siouthgate seems blasé about them throwing it away. wtf??

The USA has a term, Monday morning quarterback as we have hindsight. They also have the term 'clutch' which is the difference between a good player and a great player. Southgate has had six years. If it was going to happen it would have.

@nadeemamode

Жыл бұрын

In football, if the coach doesnt have a clutch moment, the player wont have a clutch moment.

@jujutrini8412

Жыл бұрын

I agree. He has improved the England squad but he has reached his apex. England need a new manager. The two teams were quite evenly matched and it seems to me England lack that killer instinct that great teams possess. Missing that penalty was purely a psychological issue.

@MrLewbaah

Жыл бұрын

That’s why no one listens to Americans when it comes to footy. Clueless

Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber Spitting 💯 Facts God Bless

@lfcspectre4335

Жыл бұрын

Sir James = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts 💪😉👍

@james_44

Жыл бұрын

@@lfcspectre4335 LFC Spectre came out the womb and the doctor didn't need to cut the umbilical cord he did it himself with pure 💯 sharp facts = Top LAD Proper Clobber God Bless

@sammybeck4855

Жыл бұрын

James and Simon = Top LADS Proper Clobber

@sammybeck4855

Жыл бұрын

@@lfcspectre4335 Sir Spectre and Sir James = Top LADS Proper Clobber

@james_44

Жыл бұрын

@@sammybeck4855 Sir Sammy Beck knight of the realm the queen bowed down to him cos she knows the only thing he was spitting were 💯 straight up facts = Top LAD Proper Clobber God Bless

I like Simon’s take. Standards should always be high. People should stop accepting anything less than winning a trophy. England should be about winning a tournament.

@Stinkmeaner420

Жыл бұрын

But we haven't won one since '66...that's like saying Tottenham should be comparing themselves to City or Chelsea. We're talking about different levels here

@BigDoniel

Жыл бұрын

@@Stinkmeaner420 Spurs don't have the resources of City or Chelsea, your comparison here makes no sense. It's more akin to Man City not competing for the league with what they have. The English league system is by far the best-funded in the world, and the clubs are the richest in the world with the best facilities and it's a large nation of football lovers. To have a record of 2 major finals with one win is appalling.

@Stinkmeaner420

Жыл бұрын

@@BigDoniel that's great and all that we have funding, but let's be serious. Where is most of the fundamental talent coming from? Cos it's not from England. Look at the hype that saka, grealish and foden get. None of them are world class, else they would be chased by real madrid and barca, along with the likes of vini jr, mbappe and håland. Yet the english media bigs them up so much. Even bellingham. Ffs, the boy is 19! Who's to say he don't end up like dele alli, yet he's already being touted as future England skipper. We need to face the reality of English football. We attract talent cos of the money, nothing more, nothing less

Saka taken off? Grealish brought on for one minute? Bizarre! Simon is absolutely right on Southgate we always start so slow, he has always been reactive not proactive. That’s the difference between winners and loser’s!

Agree with Simon everything apart from that Saka take. He’s the only one who is willing to take on his man and in most cases beats them or creates a chance.

CRacking stuff from Simon J as ever. If only there were more young men like him in charge of stuff this country might not be such a catastrophic mess. 🎉

@minaminx

Жыл бұрын

If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.

@thomasfoster1899

Жыл бұрын

Wat a rambler my god as he ever played at top level loves himself 😄😄😄😄

@jamesmurphy1389

Жыл бұрын

​@@thomasfoster1899 Go one, then, entertain us with your own fascinating take on world football! I'm sure the TalkSport execs will be falling over themselves to put you on the radio instead of Simon J 😂

@minaminx

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasfoster1899 twas rigged, pure n simple

Is it just me or do England look better when we pick up the pace and go at teams. We look pedestrian half the time knocking the ball sideways and backwards at the half way line, that just lets you're opponents get back in position and set up. France looked all over the place when we attacked with some sort of determination!

@melvynslote457

Жыл бұрын

I agree with what you are saying. pussyfooting around playing triangles in your own half is not going to get you anywhere. As a hopeless amateur defender, even in pub games, I felt the attackers were the most dangerous at pace down the centre. I think England play like this because they do not trust themselves to stop fast counter attacking teams, they act apprehensive from the off. I read that Maguire and Stones passed the ball over fifty times between them in one game. Southgate is timed beyond belief using his subs.

Great Darren Farley impression 👍

Southgate not including Dan Byrne ,who is leading the best defence in the premier league and Tamori who won seria A and plays in the champions league every week , in place for Harry Maguire? This alone is a shocking disgrace!! Phillips in the squad when he is not playing for his team every week like Maguire? This jobs for the boys crap is a shambles and something England fans have been calling out for years and who is talking about this ? Southgate literally looks like a rabbit in the headlights when it comes to crunch time every time . Harvey Elliot is good enough for klopp but not for Southgate? Grealish is good enough for Pep but not good enough for Southgate? Who does he think he is ?

Simon spot on again. Best pundit by far.

Just so true. We cannot win 50-50 games. We lose when it gets difficult, when it is tough, when it is the balance.

@marksmarsh2039

Жыл бұрын

i think we are often unlucky. In this game the moments were all against us. The early goal left us chasing. The penalty that we never got. Even their first goal seemed bit illegal and that Pickford was unsighted was very unlucky. It's happened so many times. The German goal in 90 deflecting and loopng over Shilts. The hand ball in 86. Wasn't there a deflection v Brazil in 2002?

Great commentary, we can’t keep lauding ourselves and our national team for ‘doing ok’; at some stage they have to win against rated opponents, then we can cheer. (Even I, a naive and inexperienced football watcher, wondered at the time if Kane should take a 2nd penalty against his team mate. And his; let’s say it, appalling over-thought shot, was far worse than I feared. I only feared a good, or at worst, an easy save… ).

@rjjcms1

Жыл бұрын

It's true,England have come a long way from their 2010 nadir to where they are contenders but it's time to make the talent and potential count and win a major competition like the example set by the Lionesses.

Simon is top class 👏🏼 best thing on talksport

Had to watch after seeing FarleyTV’s impression 🤣🤣🤣

"The French can't defend" lol

England have always had a mental problem.. When will they realize this game we call football is a psychological game. If they believed that was a Wales team wearing a French kit we would've won 4-0

@aeafilmsuk

5 ай бұрын

Well said. I concur!

It has to be said though the ref had a major impact on the final result, he had a shocking game and that's coming from a Welshman!

Simon always talks sense

Foden did nothing for 80 minutes

@marksmarsh2039

Жыл бұрын

Deschamps must have pin pointed him as one of the main threats and got his boys to do a job on him. Like we tried to do with Mbappe

@Elijah2x

Жыл бұрын

He was no threat. Saka turned up and he didn't. He should have been sub after 60 minutes...

For years and years we underperformed as a nation, it turns out petty differences between players from club A vs club B vs club C got in the way of team unity. Gareth has fixed that. Players now are performing more like a team. But we do not have a manager capable of making us a winning team. That requires great tactics and motivation. Motivation comes from belief, and deep down I don't believe Gareth sees himself as a winner and a team is a reflection of the manager.

We lost to a French team missing potentially 4 starters in Nnkunku, Benzema, Pogba and Kante whilst simultaneously fielding our best possible 11 with a ridiculously strong bench too. We will not win a tournament until we get a manager capable of attacking a match head on with the quality we have.